Is Gustav Karl a beefier Jesta or completely unrelated?
>>23508295Uhm hasn't Gustav Karl been around longer than Jesta?
>>23508295>https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/FD-03-13_Gustav_Karl_Type-13Seems to be a beefed up Jegan/Jesta with extra armor
>>23508295Completely unrelated, it's just about the only background info about it that's consistently mentioned every time it's described since Unicorn.
>>23508303This anon is illiterate. Don't be like this anon. Don't make a laughing stock out of yourself. Don't humiliate your bloodline.
>>23508295Supposedly based off Jegan, but hard to see it in the body. Maybe sharing some internal parts and compatible systems if not the armor. It was different enough to warrant a new model number, but maybe shares enough to at least save money on costs. Other sources also mention there were a bunch of changes to the Gustav Karl's frame from the early version seen in Unicorn\NT to the version seen in Hathaway movie. I'm personally inclined to say it's not a Jegan underneath. The HG kit manual says a lighter armored Gustav Karl also exists, but I don't think there's official art of what it looks like. There is a lighter version of the Gustav Karl in the Hathaway's Flash manga, but both that and the heavily armored Gustav Karl look very different to the animated version, and is based off of the old novel illustrations.
>>23508316To add on top of this, there's a whole bunch of variations on the Gustav Karl design. E.g., the manga design tries to be a hybrid of existing designs.
>>23508316The sheer size difference would make it pretty difficult for it to be a fat Jegan. Like you said, some parts commonality where things aren't broke and don't need to be fixed would make sense but it can't be too much in common.I also still can't get over how fucking ugly the Unicorn/NT version is. The Hathaway one is just lots of little changes but the overall design is way better for them. The different colours probably helps too.
>>23508295The Gustav Karl is built on concepts pioneered by the Rick Dias, the Xeku and The-O.
>>23508430It shares absolutely nothing with any of them. Rick Dias and The O are above all else mobile, and Xeku is versatile and adaptable.
>>23509678Gustav Karl supposedly was built on the premise of being a heavy mobile suit that retains good mobility, but the animation would have you believe they just eat shit all of the time. It's more like the Rick Dias, Xeku, and The-O just had good ideas that ended up being reused later across a multitude of mobile suits, but I wouldn't say the GK specifically descends from either of those three mobile suits though. At most you could say the Gustav Karl has extra thrusters and a backpack sub-arm for the left-side shield.
I think the Gustav Karl, Messer, Xi, and Odysseus/Penelope were just representations of how corrupt and inefficient Anaheim and the Federation had become. They were trying to make a MS that could do everything and take on anything at the same time and it wasn't feasible long term.
>>23508295It’s a Jestafied Jegan on the cheap
>>23508295Its a good metaphor for the Centennial UC's EFF. Just a big fat mean looking thing that isn't actually much different or improved than it's previous incarnations. Basically a big hollow bully.
>>23508295They're cousins.
>GM II is heavier than GustavWhat?
>>23515208Materials science goes craaaazzzzzyyy
>>23508346i do wish the bulky versions retained the leg beam saber holsters, it even looks like they have a mounting point for them but it's just a weird armor panel
>>23515208He’s min maxed
>>23518542I also think the boot knife beam sabre is tight AF and wish it was kept in the Animated version
>>23515208Consider a tv from the 60's vs one from the 90's.
>>23515208Natty dense muscles VS roid water balloon
>>23508295>>23508346Fat Gustav is peak.
Heavily implied to be a cutdown gundam type. Some sources mention it has performance befitting a gundam and make allusions to a high-spec genealogy
>>23519462I don’t understand
>>23519533No it's not and no they don't.
I always liked GMs because I think their visor designs are cool.
>>23519809
>>23520617dude the only part of the text that describes genealogy says it comes from the RGM familythe ONLY comparison to a gundam is that it's supposed to be versatile like one, but that's made up fluff since it only ever reuses jegan weapons
>>23520617okay so you're not intentionally making shit upyou're just illiterate
>>23520631'Versatile like a Gundam' is also the entire MO of the RGM model family. So all they're saying is, shockingly, the new in-house designs are still trying to be GM-like.
>>23520631>>23520712>originallyI know you SEAmonkeys dont understand subtext but this one is pretty clear
>>23521115What the fuck are you even saying at this point? Did you reply in the wrong thread or something?
>>23521143>seething, impotent, low-IQ SEAmonkey rage
