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Anybody able to figure out if those cave statues lead to anything, or are they just Easter eggs?

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BRAVO NOLAN
BRAVO

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FUCK ECLIPSE

>>23508504
The gargoyle statues are a cameo from the first game. You can break them for high rarity gear, but they regenerate so you need high DPS.

Asked in the other thread but gonna ask here too.
Any of you lads happen to know which enemy drops loot success rate mods? Trying to farm factors without them is suffering, I need to make a dedicated looting build but I only have a single loot success rate level 3 mod.

Grabbing a guy and just blasting a shotgun into his back over and over does not seem like a very honorable gladiator thing to do.

>>23508523
I'm not sure about attachments, but killing enemies with a bow increases loot drops.

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GO GO OUTER RANGERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwbHW8MeHDU

The forest zone is the comfiest zone so far.
You could almost forget for a moment that an ecological disaster struck the planet.

>>23508529
Bow and knife are the looter weapon classes.
Which, yknow what that's actually really clever from a flavor perspective if you think about it.

Do you ever get to choose npcs to bring into the open world or do you only get them if you have them for a main story mission?

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I can´t for the life of me find drops for this sword. I´m using the one from the shop since I never once saw it in the wild. Anyone got any idea where I could find then?

When'd you start to get double shoulder weapons?

>>23508538
Just story

>>23508566
Around the time you run into halfbreed Priscilla.

Small amount of fusion appearance insight.
Passives still count. They just can't morph you.

e.g; if you get 9 passives of Might and then reach the threshold in Shell to have a body part change, all those might points you ate take priority. Might current cope is to see if it's possible to unlock every skill in a given category (e.g might) without triggering the final head transformation. If it's possible for one it'll be possible for all. Then you'd do the same for the other two categories before finally unlocking all the passives.

I think i misunderstood fusion, is it that you bank activated factors until you hit the critical mass to gain an ability, or are you trying to make sets of factors to cash in like melds in rummy/mahjong?

>>23508628
AFAIK it´s sets. Tried banking some factors and then went to bank the missing pieces for a skill and got nothing. Though I pretty much stoped messing with this system as soon as I was at risk of getting weird bodyparts. I just went as far as the second tattoos

>>23508628
Has to be all in one go. If the skill in the list requires 7 factors, you need to have all of them at the same time.

>>23508614
Wait, are you saying you can't get a full single type body transformation? I've been trying to get a full might body and I've noticed I've had no transformations lately, that's because I've been getting passives? I've got a head transformation before getting the legs which before I reset to get rid of my mixed body I had gotten a head transformation after the legs. Order might be random.

Stop fucking sticking me with Ash for the story. This guy is genuinely one of the most annoying NPCs in years. Talks mad shit and is a dick towards you whole being completely ineffectual as an ally to the point that he may as well not even exist. Did the Legion fight on Hard and he's making snarky comments the whole time I'm getting my ass jumped and it's like FUCKING HELP ME JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOOD AS A DECOY

>>23508641
I like him. The dude just never switches off lol, he's fucking mad that you're so cool and necessary and he wants everyone to know it. Every cutscene has him scream at someone for something no matter how minor. At this point I'm just happy my presence annoys him so much.

>>23508640
No. I'm saying it MIGHT be possible to clear out all active skills (not passives) and not reach the final head transformation. It's what I'm working on right now. I'm terrible at explaining shit, but I'll try anyways.

Passives can't transform you. Only active skills.
So hypothetically let's say you need 1 more (hidden) point to transform another body part into might.
[Mirage level 1] would transform you.
[Femto Efficiency level 5] would not.


Now. Let's say you get [Femto Efficiency level 5] and you coincidentally only need 1 more shell point to evolve the part you're at
You buy [Demilune Slash lv1]. The game sees you have enough points for a might transformation and so even though you bought a shell skill, you get a might transformation.

Anyways for you all you need to do is buy might active skills and avoid picking up passives until you're fully transformed.
...Yes it's cancer.

So is this one of those games like MH where it's best to just rush the story to get to the endgame loop of farming and doing challenge stuff? A lot of people seemed to have beaten the story like day 2 so it doesn't seem like that's the main meat of the game.

>>23508673
I spent most of my time exploring the overworld.

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GOD DAMN
>>23505891
Nope, deluxe one with boob window don't hide your mutations.

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>>23508687
That thing looks so fucking retarded with the skull. Your head gets elongated to like 1.5 it's normal size.
Even just having arms is a fucking disaster regardless of which flavor you pick

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That's pretty nice ass. I remember Rabbit 11 was just lanky and slim Arsenal in the first game
>>23508692
I don't get why they decided to change cybernetics to edgy mutations from some shitty korean toilet paper.

Bless /m/ for having a spot to talk about this game
Just started encountering the Nuen, how much more game before I can reliably start farming gear that isn’t just a straight upgrade?
Also is the mirage skill as good as it feels? The clone doesn’t seem to do much damage but having an immortal aggro soak has been a godsend.
Also also someone feed me fun loadouts, dual laser rifles + cannon has been great but I wanna add variety to my button spam

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>>23508692
We need a proper gallery and info on how to get each body part.It feels like everyone gets the same shoulders no matter what they go for. But there's some random changes that don't feel quite right. Like I got a different might leg part the first time around compared to now.

>>23508715
How much does it cost to reset the body at endgame? Been great grabbing some skills here and there while going through the story but can’t decide if I should pay now for a reset and refine my gene hunting or just wait till I hit post and do it then.

>>23508712
You can't refight the Nuen and some other humanoid story bosses until after you finish the main story, so if you want to farm one of their sets/abilities it's post-game only.
Wished I would have realized that earlier because I took Legion's helmet over his Factor and had to wait until way later to get the Mirage skill.

>>23508712
Your mirage is shockingly good at certain jobs, so it's good to expierment. They throw stun grenades a lot and help you lock down large groups, and I noticed that they'll stop and do full charged attacks against stunned enemies.

>>23508715
That's the regular might part. If you got the things that look like reverse joints that's shell.
A gallery would be nice. I don't know what I was thinking not just making one this time around. What was I thinking. Some other day. I'm getting fucking sick of fighting the electric moose.

Anyways appearance is pretty consistent once you know what not to do.
>>23508711
To be fair all 3 heads were STILL the death knell for any character. And the amount of effort you had to go through just to achieve symmetry often meant just throwing upgrades into the trash can.
The skylifter though? yeah that was the good shit.

>>23508726
>That's the regular might part. If you got the things that look like reverse joints that's shell.
No, the thing I got was like massive cylinders with no feet.

Does fusing new shit on top of your old shit overwrite the skills you have or is the combination of factors purely for the new skills you will learn and you still keep your old ones?

>>23508733
That's skeleton.
God that thing is fucking rad on it's full set if you can get over losing most of your mid section.

>>23508741
Skills are accumulative
You keep everything you unlock

>>23508742
How many fucktors (not a typo) do I have to build up before the next transformation is available?

>>23508795
Don't know how the math works yet. Ironically if Grausam beta fucking drops the right gene I'll know what increments the count at least. And after that it'd be trivial to figure out the numbers.

I'm so fucking sick of killing grausam man.

Unless the pirated version has some something fucky going on the the full game does run worse than the demo.
Have they announced future optimizations or is it going to be simply additional contents?

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I found that laser claw weapon, it's fucking amazing. Need to find a second one.

>>23508820
Well at least you self reported.
Better check to see if you're running a bitcoin miner in the background.

>>23508816
Do you know if I have to actually unlock skills to make progress towards the next part or if I can just pump factors into my body even if they don't activate any abilities?

NGL lads, this transformation shit is starting to get on my nerves, I'm tired of resetting, wasting all my factors on not being able to progress far enough in mutation before I run out of factors to unlock is annoying as shit. Jesus fucking christ, either make it a proper mechanic or fuck off with this garbage. It's shit like this that ruins perfectly fine games.

>Arachne hits 100% monster dna and is just a sexy lady in a bodysuit
>I get juiced up and I become a fucked up crab monster

It's not fair

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>>23508715
>It feels like everyone gets the same shoulders no matter what they go for
I haven't seen many other people with these, so I think each type gets its own shoulders. Guessing this is the first shell mutation for shoulder and back

>>23508856
have to unlock skills

You can cram as much dead shit into yourself as you want, it won't accumulate.
Moreover from >>23508816 finally giving me what I want I've learned that either the values are related to skills and skills are weighted in some impossible (more time consuming) way, or the individual values are weighed higher the higher you go
e.g., IV < XV

The latter will (eventually) be easy to decipher.
The former will take forever doing this legally to the point that I'd strongly consider just waiting for a dataminer.

>>23508917
Correct. Those are the ones I got the first go round. And I was really confused because it didn't match the shoulders in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QaX8qwV-oI
Only to find out that their showcased Shell is mixed with Might parts. Those assholes.

>>23508913
THIS LAND IS PEACEFUL
ITS INHABITANTS, KIND

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>Heavy lifting round 3
ENOUGH WITH THE BUGGY BOX STACKING

>>23508903
It'd be a cool extra layer of customization if you could actually control what mutations show up, but in its current state it's just going to put people off from engaging with the system. Would be great if they added more options to the fusion customization menu later, but they'd probably need to receive a lot of complaints about it on their official sites first. Probably just have to wait for mods.

>>23508542
That the tamonten? Apparently, I got one from from strays in Mitera Glastra. So good luck with that, I guess. You can try murdering Axies in the forest as well, I suppose?

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>>23508917
I want these shoulders. But I don't know what they are. Doing purely might skills gave me these shoulders >>23508715
And they shouldn't skeleton shoulders because those show up as vertical panels in the trailer, so I don't know what the fuck.

>>23508929
Basically right now the questions are.
What causes the mutation because I got the shell (?) mutation from might genes.
What determines the order of the mutation because the first time I did it I got Back-Shoulders-Legs order and when I retried I got the Back-Shoulders-Head.
What the values are specifically for building up mutation stacks becuase I'ver been resetting my save to get different ones and I've gotten them at different times.
The trainer for the game just came out I think I'm gonna reset my mutation and just start farming and resetting the save with one-hit kill bow and trying to figure out fucking how to do this shit.

What I think I want I want is the combination based on the trailer. The smooth shoulders which are in the thumbnails, the armos and legs I got here >>23508715 which were from spamming might. The chest that's in the thumbnail (picrel) and I have no clue about the head to be honest, maybe skeleton visor and might for the rest of the head if it can be mixed, and back whatever the most low profile thing is, maybe shell? I'm assuming the spike wings are might.

>>23508953
The process of getting the ones you want is a pretty... painful process. Due to the sheer number of beta bosses you have to kill as you completely rebuild your skill library. While I do think the investment of time any person spends makes them more protective of that experience, I can easily see the vast majority, at most, interacting with the system twice before wiping their hands of it.

This is an issue that unfortunately the greater community will have to catch up to in a week or two so that discussion about it can even happen. But hell they've already shown a willingness to just let transmogs do the heavy lifting. So this might not even be a longlasting issue.

>>23508913
she's not that way due to fusion

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>>23508826
what the fuck

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>>23508969
See what I'm saying? Now after trying from scratch again, the first transformation is eyes.

>>23508994
And by first transformation I mean this is the very first injection. I did not inject anything prior. I reset my progress, picked up these two shell factors, and came back to the lab.

Oh shit just the vermilion knight laser sword and this thing is great! Anyone knows where I can farm more of those?

>>23508969
>What causes the mutation because I got the shell (?) mutation from might genes.
I talked about it here>>23508662
TL;DR
If you pick up a bunch of shell passives you won't mutate.
Once you start buying ANY active skills (in your case might) you will mutate according to accumulated value of skills (in this case, Shell)
ergo, you get a shell mutation from might genes.

This was annoying as fuck learning. But learning it is how I was able to get my shell hands on my might body. (and even then I might still end up having to scrap this character for reasons that will make themselves known in half a dozen hours from now.

>What determines the order of the mutation
No clue.
From my experience(4 times at this point) it's eye-> tats -> more tats -> back -> waist -> head(1) -> arms -> legs -> body -> head(2)
The values are what I'm most interested in, and that'd be relatively easy once we establish the lowest and highest value fusions...

>>23508692
>>23508715
>>23508994
The fact that you cant acquire skills without dismantling your pilot in the first game and mutating your pilot in the second game is disappointing.

>>23509016
The problem is it's really fucking hard to get passives without burning through unlocking a bunch of actives too. We really need a mutation calculator or just a straight up save editor for this shit because fucking hell.

>>23509021
There's an outfit that hides all of your mutations that you unlock after beating the story

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>>23508994
Tried a different combination, now it's eyes AND body right from the getgo.

>>23509034
I forgot the most important part.

Every category (might/shell/skeleton) has their own breakpoints.
So if you get enough points to unlock the legs transformation on might.
You need to get enough points to go from eyes all the way to body on shell, if you want a body transformation on shell..
That's why I'm seeing if it's possible to do this without losing your head. Because if you can get all (or at least most) active skills then it'll be "safe" to clean sweep most passives... You'd still lose your clothes (probably), but you'd at least keep your head.

If I have to junk this character I'll see what a character looks like if all they do is get passives. I'm really hoping this is the last time out of "necessity" and next time is specifically for knowledge.

>>23508992
Where do you get the claw holy fuck

>>23509045
>If I have to junk this character I'll see what a character looks like if all they do is get passives.
I don't think that's possible, there are more than a few passives that include lower level actives as a part of their factor combo.

>>23509053
Oh no. I know transformations are going to happen. I'm curious as to the extent. Like would you be able to make it with just some shit grafted to your back and waist or are you going to lose an entire limb.

>>23509052
I got it from a beacon

>>23508820
>>23508838
Nigga you got miners. I also pirated the game and only difference i noticed, it's that there's no visible popups after you crashland on earth. In the demo, i didn't see Toby and myself for solid 15 seconds.

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On that note. I'm down to my last 3 skills and I still have my head
If I can get spray and pray and Limit Change I can consider this a success
>but detonate 3
Fuck detonate 3.
Every category has one or more junk skills anyhow.

Just... 4 more Grausam...

>>23508826
I love these things. Running two of them on my midweight build.

so I heard you have to choose between fighting legion or yaiba, and you lose out on one over the others loot for it
is there anything post story you get to fight the one you skipped or are you reliant on joining someone else's game?
not there yet in the story but just curious

>>23509089
It's legion and gaze
And once you get to post game the opposing mission just shows up and you go do it
Spare Yaiba so you can do his quest chain later

>>23509092
ahh I see I see, got it mixed up then
thanks for the info friend, I'll keep that in mind
also curious if the first interaction you have with bullet, and not fighting her has any changes narrative wise or if it was just there to show you that you have the option

>>23509081
I know it sounds weird after I basically beat everything in the game and put like 50 hours into it but this kind of shit really makes me dislike the game. I can't even get started forming my mutations because it's so weird and imprecise.

>>23509021
It's always funny watching people squirm over their create a characters getting fucked up.

>>23509081
Damn. Can't fit not even one more in there. Ultimately it wasn't even close. There's 5 (I miscounted) entire level 3 skills left.
That answers that question

>>23509096
I like silly stuff like this. Don't get me wrong it's contentious as fuck. But I like caring enough about NOT having something happen that I game the game as hard as humanly possible.

Alright, what's up with this stupid tower

>>23509133
You go up.
Make the most efficient climbing apparatus that's within your power to do.
And then get to it.

>>23509137
I've been climbing for god knows how long

>>23509141
Keep going. This isn't a prank.

>>23509021
>>23509109
It's great if you have a corruption fetish

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This'll be the last autistic post I make about this without fully deciphering the system. But you know what? I don't hate the (shell) head that much. Skeleton (without full skeleton body) and Might are untenable though.

>>23509141
put on an entire playlist
of movies
You're going to be here for a bit

>>23509148
I just find it funny of all the ways to balance skill perks, "make your character look like the super sentai villain of the week" is as effective as it is at deterring rushing for all the skills as soon as possible.

What are the stats on the muramasa set?

>>23509146
>>23509167
Please tell me there's something up there that is worth this intrinsically japanese torture, who the fuck thought this was fine

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>>23509171
-1 stagger resist
A fucking handgun has you on sight.

Leave complaints about the mutation system here if you want the possibility of it changing in the future.
>America
https://marvelous-usa.com/contact/
>Europe
https://marvelousgames.com/contact

There's the Japanese site too, but it doesn't sound like they take feedback like that based on their guidelines.
https://www.marv.jp/support/form/?mode=cs&gameplatform=switch2&title=10949

>>23509192
Solomeme deserves it

>>23508483
Cute brown girl. I didn't realize it came out today but I still have the demo installed to try that out. Am I gonna totally lost or completely spoiled about the story if I play 2 or is DxM one of those games where the story really doesn't matter much?

>>23509192
Seems like the best arms for brawling performance? Explorer is the only other one I've seen above 200. That VP is insanely high though.

>>23509226
It's standalone so far.
But that could mean standalone like how Xenoblade games are standalone, where out of left field comes something so narrow and targeted that only means something for the specific person in the back who has been around since Xenogears.

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>>23509178
>Please tell me there's something up there
A 200 memory capacity medium weight set.

>>23509276
All this shit just for the ugly as shit Solomon's set?
Kill me

>>23508969
Do these shoulders not exist?

Might is this >>23509081
Shell is this >>23508917
And skeleton has vertical spikes. So how the fuck do you get this shit?

>>23509226
I'm still very early in the story, but so far there's very little in common between the two games. Here's all you need to know about the first game (without spoilers)
-the moon cracked and part of it fell on Earth, spreading around femto, which is magical superenergy
-some humans reacted to femto energy by becoming Outers, capable of piloting Arsenals
-AI bots went insane and started murdering everything that tries to approach ground zero. These machines come to be known as immortals
Spoilery bits:
-the moon was housing a machinegod thing that was actively trying to evolve humans into Outers, the Dominator
-the AI didn't go insane, it thought humanity wasn't ready for the Dominator yet and fought with humanity in an attempt to prepare them for it
-depending on the ending, the shield protecting the rest of humanity from femto fails instantly or in the nearby future, thereby jumpstarting humanity's evolution regardless of your choice
-also, you're actually on Mars
As for the new game, it takes place a few centuries after the first. Outers are still Outers, immortals are muties instead of rogue AI and nobody knows how femto got on Earth.
The existence of the Dominator doesn't seem to be common knowledge.

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up and away

>>23509338
It's several hours btw.

Haven’t gotten it yet but can you customize your giant mecha powerup at all?

>>23508483
y'all gotta stop putting anime girls as the OPs for these generals i keep thinking i'm on /vt/

>>23509346
There are a few different models avaliable with preset loadouts. You can change the colors, but loadouts are all preset

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>>23509052
The claw can drop from strays too.

>>23509239
>>23509332
Thanks anons.

Is there any way for me to see who drops certain gear by looking at the gear instead of searching the enemy droplist in the map menu? That shit is so ass to find what I´m looking for

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>>23509332
>nobody knows how femto got on Earth.
Doesn't this explain it?

>>23509338
>That base ascension speed
Anon, turn back, make the centurion body and legs and femto regen mutations if you want to keep your sanity

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Did the game come with an emblem editor as promised?

>>23509426
Yes, only avaliable in offline mode though

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>I'm gonna make Kojima and his shitty ladders weep
>I'm gonna make Tower Climb look like a goddamn joke
>I'm gonna make Finland's suicide statistics woefully unimpressive
>I'm gonna invent the cinematic tower climbing genre
>I'm gonna singlehandedly increase Youtube and Netflix' revenue by 300%
What the fuck was he thinking?
Who hurt him?

how do i actually get key cards? the game doesnt really explain HOW to get them at all, just what to do with them

>>23509452
You get them randomly from boxes, Toby eventually has a looping quest you can do that gives you one of those on completion

>>23509451
He was flying high on coke while watching a shit tone of anime with god on his side.

>>23508483
Is there as shoulder mounted gatling gun, somewhere? Need to think of something to do for a heavy suit.

>>23509503
Don´t think so, but you could use a railgun. They require a lot of memory avaliable so I haven´t tried one yet, but they seem powerful

>>23509511
Now that think about it, you get gun tendrils with particle shift, so there would really be a point to one would there.

>>23509451
DXM does not fuck around when it wants to prank the player.

>>23509537
REMINDER THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN TSUKUDA'S SHITPOST WORLD SINCE THE DAY ANON ATE TOO MUCH ICE CREAM AND STARTED SEEING SECRET BOSS WEAPON SHOPS.

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Well, six fucking hours and about thirteen full resets later. I'm finally done getting the form I wanted.
Just trying to make one final decision, help me out lads.
Full Skeleton head (left) or Skeleton+Might head(right)?

>>23509556
Full Skeleton
Now explain how to manipulate the genes for optimal form creating
Also is there a gallery of each part yet anywhere?

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i think ill do it again, didnt quite finish my playlist

>>23509584
>explain how to manipulate.
lol, I brute forced.
Reset genes, and then start doing the boss refights for the big triple gene combos.
A single triple gene combo could get you your first transformation - Eyes.
Double triple gene combo could get you your two first transformations - Eyes+Body (Tattoos)
Then another run of a boss that drops a single high level gene should get you the rest of the Body (Tattoos)
Mixing and matching this process let me get what you see. I don't think it's doable if you want a pure body since you'd need to unlock more and more and more of a single one. But then mix and matching, in one go I got the tats and eyes, then first mutation of shoulders from skeleton, then a mutation of back and hips from skeleton, then arms from shell, legs from might, body from might, then I had to do the head full in two gos because a single full set of factors was no longer enough to mutate me. But basically just reset and spam boss refights for monocolor triple factors.

>>23509608
Not bad, tedious but not bad
Can you still load more genes to unlock every skill after you have fully mutated? It doesn’t override previous mutations?

>>23509625
Yes, you can keep unlocking new skills after you've fully mutated. Doesn't seem to let you to replace any existing mutations, your form is set.

Does online work for piratefags? I want to support this game but I just can't justify the price right now.

>>23509686
If
You Want
To support The game
Don't fucking pirate it maybe

>>23509686
you can get it for 10 bucks off at greenmangaming, thats where i got it

>>23509697
Eeh might still be too much right now but that helps ease things a bit. Thanks.

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>>23509556
I was just going to stumble in because after 1 mutation(aside from the tutorial one) I lost my ability to wear a shirt and was curios if it was normal but damn this system can get crazy huh. Looking at the other posts I did wait until the 2nd area to get the other triple gene for helm splitter 3 so that's probably why I lost my shirt. Also I'd vote the full skeleton. The horns on the other head just looks so different in material to everything else you got on.

>>23509703
np, also should state thats with their little gay code they market on the front page, its like sep15 or somethin i dont remember but itll say it somewhere anyway

Any good spot to farm slot upgrade 2?

I can´t find enemies that drop laser swords. Any good spot to farm then? I´m looking for either the yellow or the red ones

>>23509816
Strays in the Mitera Glastra (Forest) area drop the yellow laser sword (Tamonten)
Schole Hills/Martel Barrens (Mountain) for the red sword (Vermillion Knight)
There are probably more areas that drop them, but I only have those in my enemy drops list so far. You can also just buy them if your shop is upgraded high enough.

>>23509865
I got then from the shop but I´d like to get one with better stats if possible

>>23509603
Wait how much femto does propellant tank 2 give? And how many femto attachments?

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Yeah ok thats disappointing. I'm cancelling

is there another part to the heavy lifting thing? i heard thats how you get zanki's helmet
or did pick the wrong option at the end of part 3

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Wait, so that's it?
I beat the shit out of Solomon again and he's not even possible to rematch in the terminal?
All those hours to go up there and I can't even properly farm his set?
Does he spawn in some of the procgen axiom dungeons at least?

>>23510011
theres a teleport once you get up there (I've heard)

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>>23510011
Look on your map. There's a teleport marker like a few pixels to the right of the marker for the door to the tower, that takes you to the top, not the door. He'll respawn when you reload the area by leaving and coming back.

I mean how do you think we got our sets? >>23509276 >>23509192

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>DGame came out September 5th
>It is now September 8th
>You've played this game for 67 hours

>>23510050
I got like 26 before it even came out. Don't think I've ever spent that long on a demo before

Weird choice to not have all gear drop in all rarities. Like the only three armor sets in the game that are yellow are ultralight, light, and a medium that only has enough capacity for two swords so effectively ultralight build-wise.

>>23510063
we'll probably get more with those free boss updates if anything, but yeah they should have put out some more for launch

Good lord Rebellion sure loves to jump around like fucking Super Mario

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>>23510067
I'd love to be proven wrong, but considering they're free updates, I doubt the omega bosses will drop any armor, they'll probably just drop Mark 3 versions of blueprints their beta counterparts drop.
If we do get new armor sets they'll probably come with into the abyss, which just by the name alone sounds like it would be some procedurally generated dungeon.

>>23510074
That's the problem with a lot of bossess, they just never fucking stop moving which doesn't matter if you're a sniper or some shit but sucks donkey balls for melee users which is pretty bad considering the game is pretty melee focused considering how much better swords are on average.

>>23510074
the absolute worst part of the combat in this game is when any boss decides to reposition
either they just bulldoze through you because they take up half the area or they just keep moving around over and over
for the last 1/3rd of the fight against that digger he was underground the entire time
really took the sails out of that fight

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Ok it seems if you have any skill set at lvl 3 you grow the shoulders. Anyone had a different result? I guess SK mutation is the same?
Guess the penalty is looking retarded, guess its fitting given we are collecting chromosomes

So there are only 3 Battle Armors, right?

>>23510085
I got shoulders and back without reaching level 3 on anything; just a bunch of level 1s and a couple 2s. That was after the eyes and tattoos though

Anyone happen to know if any enemies in the desert area drop a single SK3 factor? Could potentially unlock a ton of skills at once if so

>>23510222
What they need to do is add the abvility to delete saves.

do i get a choice later to pick npc partners? doing some side stuff solo and id love to have forge go with me

Should I always be taking the fusion material from the nuen bosses since you cant get it again until endgame?

>>23510322
Follow a build plan and pick the right one, also I got cucked from Thousand cuts lvl 3 because of this. And I think I'm almost end game and no one drops the fucking fusion for it.

>>23510306
No, you eventually get locked into Raven and Iris and after beating the story you have an option to stop them from following you or not. That is all. You can pick who fights with you in the boss/story remaches at the console at the back of the base but obviously they don't carry over into the open world.

>>23510222
>Secret shop unlock isn't a bug
Guess it's over for me

Just me or the story become a total at the ending where you kill Arachne? Anyone know if is linear which bosses you kill or not? If is not linear I think I saved the Samurai pupil.

>>23510358
Could try all of these
https://x.com/seto3_/status/1965026790256361527

>>23510362
ass*

>>23510370
The secret store is just the boss weapon merchant, so much hype for nothing honestly...
I unlocked it once I got silver stamp card.

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LOVE the bosses in this game.

>Trying to get under Gunfort to bash its weak points with Mace
>It either jumps miles away or does that shield thing
Guess going under isn't worth it

>>23510222
No mention of Switch 2 performance enhancements.

Looks like I’ll be dealing with lag when fighting more than 4 enemies at once for the foreseeable future.

How the fuck do you beat gunfort alpha?

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>>23509608
>I don't think it's doable if you want a pure body
Presumably it is. But I'll find out probably tomorrow.

Anyways I've discovered combined with >>23509167, to my horror, that there are 3 flavors of headpieces per final head evolution
Also upgrades are accumulative across all categories
Getting a better understanding of values helped figure this nonsense out.

Anyways has anybody found Zeruchroar yet?
>>23510547
With guns.

>>23510598
>even more variation
Jesus wept
>upgrades are ACCUMULATIVE
Jesus WEPT
Bless your work respec autist, please put together an excel sheet so I can make my optimal immortal-fu look

>>23510547
>ranged
Shoot it's knees with firearms until dead
>melee
Pfffff ahahahahaha

Anyone else feel the ice cream shop is out of place?

>devs add a very intricate yet incredibly boring card minigame to the game
Fuck off. Nothing good better be locked behind this shit.

>>23510653
Card game or fishing, make your choice.

>>23510645
Yes that's the best part.

Can I get the giant axe that Bullet was using?

has anybody figured out how to get through the acid rooms legitimately
>>23510719
Yes
It's a "sword" though.

>>23510720
Good enough.
Damn I want to farm the Nuen’s for their gear so bad but I also don’t want to just rush the story.

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>>23510645
It's a beacon of hope for the future

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This game definitely has one thing over DxM1, the fashion is fucking immaculate.

Has anyone done any multiplayer stuff? Is there any content that’s actually built around it or is it just for fucking around with friends? Haven’t seen anyone talk about it and it seems like most people are playing with online disabled anyway since it improves load times.

>>23510547
Hulk smash the batteries on the cannon until you get to grapple it out, then use the broken cannon piece to shoot him some more, after that you can smash his kneecaps until death or tickles his belly pimples.
>>23510725
Most of the gear from the Neun is bad
>Arachne
Her bow's decent I guess, other than that it's bog standard explorer set and a bitch ass knife
>Bullet
Her orbital shield isn't terrible, her axe is pretty good, she has a rare helm and that's about it, you can get a good shotgun out of her though
>Yaiba
He has a unique Tachi and I guess there's only two of these in the game, they kinda suck though so I don't know, his set is okay-ish
>Gearworm
nothing of note outside of the greatsword I guess, and the greatsword is not Centurion's so it goes in the trash
>Legion
the set is okay-ish I guess, weapons are just generic stuff
>Gaze
Has a unique helmet for edgelording, the Empusa sniper rifle is....situational at best, it can wreck immortals if you manage to expose their weak spots and accumulates a lot of stagger, pointless if there's no weak spot exposed and you don't have good aim
>Hex
nothing here, lol, I guess you get to farm insania rex more though
>Void
The Demeter set is actually pretty good and worth farming if you don't want to frankenstein something else with Centurion's Primus Pilum parts, his sword is also top tier and really good for edgelording

Ok finished the game, I know I'm here for the mecha explosions and shit but holy jesus the story was painful. I thought they were going to properly distribute decent at a decent pacing the character storyline and link with the world building to understand why Outer and Humans are at war. But nothing made sense it was a cheap plot of all in your LE HEAD and the "true" villain is just a guy wanting to be god for a second and commit suicide. Oh yeah welcome to the law of the jungle but I will kill myself lmao, peak boomer fantasy.
With how badly the MC background told this contaminated the why I should care about the ex companions of the MC. Hey you suck now! I will kill you or sometimes you get a chance to not do anything and leave at that.
The collecting mecha part is quite addicting but not much boss variety to go for. The fusing system is pretty good its quite autistic and well thought just wished you could choose your first major mutation instead of being locked into shoulders.
I guess there is a good potential here but they shouldn't had waste resources with stupid shit like Bike or Card game. And focus more into beating shit with your mech.

>>23510653
Don't worry its just card faggotry no mecha parts or weapons involved.

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>>23510761
>I guess there is a good potential here but they shouldn't had waste resources with stupid shit like Bike or Card game. And focus more into beating shit with your mech.
I've been saying this since launch, Tsukuda just doesn't understand what the fuck he's doing.
NOBODY plays mecha games for shitty card minigames or races with Halo tier physics for their vehicles, nevermind the fucking climb to Solomon.
I would have removed all of that shit for more mech parts and better weapon design where things aren't just stat sticks that will become obsolete immediately the moment you unlock the next tier of gear, this shitty old AC style balancing did NOT need to come back, the diablo style loot did NOT need to come back, we did not need a Quake 4 tier cinematic campaign with vehicle turret shootings let alone that extra cringeworthy part at the end with the horse charge.
And yeah, the story is terrible but at least it's not unsalvageable like the first game's, on the other hand the party members are so hilariously worse I don't even know how they managed to do worse than the first game, even the Neun having all a different flavour of sob story manages to ruin their role of antagonists entirely.

Though it's clear the game is yet again unfinished and hastily rewritten in a lot of parts as the season pass will feature a fight with Chaldia, who gets unceremoniously written out of the story after a whole...10 lines of dialogue.
No idea why Ash gets a sister with a unique design that was CLEARLY supposed to be a party member but was written out of the story at the last second, nevermind Angel doing what she does...
Also, Raven being the Jack-O of the story is just too much, somebody has to tardwrangle Tsukuda because I can't believe he has the balls to ask 90 bucks for this.

>>23510767
Also why the fuck do I even have the option to turn off party members when the game DOES NOT LET ME CHOOSE WHO I WANT TO PLAY WITH and I'm stuck with Iris and Raven forever.

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>>23510769
>Raven dies at the end
>You are stuck in some weird time loop before the end
Enjoy!

The story is booty but I just don’t pay attention to it. Game is a lot more fun just treating it like Monster Hunter (pre Wilds anyway) and pretending I’m just some random going out to kill shit for the hell of it.

Ok noticed there is quests where you need to talk with the npc and it won't appear in the bench.
So yeah the game wants you to yap about shit.

>>23510776
For what is worth it's fun to just roam around the world and kill stuff or bully Axiom convoys, overall the maps are really good and I dig the randomization with various mining point, but they went too far with treasure chests fucking everywhere and the probe minigames that forbid you to fly are torture until you unlock legs that can jump sky high like Primus Pilum.
Imo they should have removed all those RNG treasure chests that have nothing but trash loot and just worked around beacons more, beacons are an interesting gimmick...outside of the fact that your scan struggles to make the wreckage visible.
I also do like how some rooms of various bases don't have lights on so you're stuck with your arsenal's light, there's a lot of neat touches here and there but again, the game is too unfocused to properly capitalize on most of the ideas and possibilities of the format they chose.
It's a good proof of concept but I'm just halfway convinced, it took them this long to come out with yet another half baked game that stands on its own just a tiny bit better than the first one and they're asking outrageous amounts of money for it, I really want to throw my lot with Tsukuda's folks since they clearly have passion but goddamn it they're making it really hard for me to trust them.

At least I can say this is more or less what I expected Xenoblade X to be back in the days, even if Yanase isn't here Kawamori is still great so I'm not regretting I spent 40 bucks on this...right now, we'll see what they'll do in the future, whether they fix the tons of issues the game has and what the season pass will actually do.

Is the spinning gun attack ever actually good?

Zooming around with the Atalanta in the arena is fun as hell

>>23510791
No, it's awful. Which isn't surprising seeing as the equivalent it had in DxM1 was also awful.

>>23510791
The only time that shit is good is when Gaze uses it on you

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>>23510793
>casually better in every way in comparison to my Hermes II
que?

>>23510750
I've done bosses and dungeons. Both are fun
>built around it
Bosses naturally are given they're nearly all aoe fests. I can't really tell the difference with the secure areas or w/e they're called. But there's enough stuff in them that it don't really matter either way
Also I don't notice load time issues

So, how are the power armors? Cool or uncool?

>>23510843
For the most part it's just scaled down arsenals, same white glint gimmick of having opening parts in the limbs, some sets from the first game are in the game but slightly redesigned to fit human proportions.
The fashion's alright, plenty of edgy parts, most of these are classic kawamori designs, they also snuck in a painfully 80's set with the Revenger arsenal which is super cool.
On the other hand weapon arms suck, it's just an (admittedly cool looking) arm holding a folding weapon that's pretty much stapled around the arm.

After I farmed Centurion for its parts I can run, jump and fly like a fucking maniac which is good I guess, it's hard to go back to other arsenal parts.

>>23510851
>On the other hand weapon arms suck
Like FUCK they do, I spit roasted the entire game with a bazooka arm.

>>23510864
I mean visually, they're really lame.

>>23510867
You take that back, the bazooka arm looks cool as shit. Laser rifle arm is also fine. The others are lame though, yeah.

What special moves are just awful and not worth bothering with?

>>23510873
The rooty tooty spin and shooty is literally worthless

>>23510873
hack, subjugation, spray and pray (only useable if you're a super light mech), firearm smash, detonate, Auto-Dodge, kick on most legs, optic laser, blink

>>23510883
Is kick good with high jump legs?

>>23510886
it's useable with high jump legs.
That's the best you're getting.

>>23510791
No, but like everything in this series it's peak FUCK YOU I THINK IT'S COOL.
Sometimes I just want to smack some of you all upside the head for being unable to appreciate FUCK YOU I THINK IT'S COOL as a reason for things to be.

there's a third location bullet can show up at

Do those areas that are clearly boss arenas actually get used for bosses like the northwest part of the desert that is just a giant empty field with 6 flame thrower guys?

>>23510972
Yeah, but if they're empty then you need to beat a base boss somewhere else, the alpha/beta variants only spawn after you beat the base boss.

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>>23510598
>Anyways has anybody found Zeruchroar yet?
You talking about Gigantes Heavy Armor?
Very rare drop from the story fight with Gearworm where he uses it. The item is literally called 'Arsenal Core "Gearworm"' you just nab it and then you just craft it in the crafting menu in the factory where a new option called Heavy Armor shows up under items in the Development menu.

>>23510997
No I meant Zeruchroar but what the fuck I didn't know about this
Now I'm paranoid about other shit I've missed

>>23510598
Might has bladed legs, shell has reverse joint legs, skeleton has skelly legs. Where the fuck do the stubby cylinder legs come from? They're fucking massive so clearly they're too big to belong to any of the three. Something is being mixed in that we don't know about.

>>23510999
stubby cylinder legs? Can you show an image?
I assumed head was the only permutation
But if that isn't true I've got a lot of autism in my near future.

>>23510997
Zeruchroar is discount Nineball from DxM1, it's probably lurking somewhere and since nobody's playing this info is scarce.
Me I'm just fucking around finding probes and shit to solve, didn't even find the fucking ball yet

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>>23510998
Oh, I saw another anon refer to it as Zeruchroar so I just thought that's what you meant.
WTF is Zeruchroar then?

>>23511003
I don't have an image, it was days ago on my first run and I had gotten the might visor and skeleton arms at that point, so when I saw it, it looked comical beyond belief and I immediately rolled back my save, each leg was just a pure cylindar from the thigh to the bottom with each leg being the width of the torso and the arms combined.
Thankfully I'm a master-level artist and I drew a quick image for you (pic related) I know it looks like I'm meeming because of the shit mspaint quality but I'm being genuine.

>>23511015
Might visor, Skeleton arms, do you remember the back or waist?
I was going to see if anything happened if you got 100% absorbs on a single character. And I probably still will do that first.
But even the smallest hint will help me figure out how to decipher the upgrade path you took.

Because if what you're saying is accurate, there's a fourth permutation. And the rough part is that I simply can't think of how a person would get it. Unless another flavor of nightmare is possible.

>>23511023
Back was shell, the assfuck handle, the waist tail, shell I think.

>>23511028
tail? Like it was a hollow ring right?

>>23510767
The Solomon climb and the horse charge are kino and I will fight you on this.

>>23511079
>horse charge
the what now?

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>>23511094

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>>23511079
The horse charge is mega cringe but I can sorta forgive it because we do get to steal Yaiba's bootleg Red Hare and play around with it even if it sucks.
THREE+ HOURS of holding X and watching a game render some shitty tower tiles over and over while the creeping fear of gamebreaking bugs is right there behind your shoulder, just to get to that roided up jobber is wholly inexcusable, on top of it all his arsenal gear is unusable dogshit too, seriously one of the most atrocious moments in vidya I've had the displeasure of witnessing in a long time

>>23511057
No like a turtle tail.

>>23511103
>THREE+ HOURS of holding X
There's an option to make the boost a toggle. This is the type of esoteric bullshit that was commonplace back when games had soul.

>>23511100
IT'S TIME

Is there any NPC in the game that sells analyzed ID cards? (Not blank cards, unanalyzed) I'm trying to go for a rainbow card but holy shit.

>>23511156
not that I've seen

>>23511110
I think it's because Marvelous is in a position where they can apply Yoko Taro business logic and succeed on the merits of being weird and experimental rather than trying to be more refined than the team who has infinitely more budget than you.

I mean, yeah AC6 gets weird as far as Armored Core goes, but it isn't DXM weird, and I doubt AC will ever try to be that weird in our lifetime, which lets DXM succeed on the strength of it being weird.

I´ve noticed my physical defense is in the negatives. Can the general defense stat compensate that or should I try and balance it out? What would be a good value for specific defenses?

>>23511215
>What would be a good value for specific defenses?
non negative unless you like being one shot from 30k vp on hard.

Game feels somewhat unfinished.
Which weapon and armor types have the highest rarity variant seems very spotty. I know we're getting Omega boss fights in a couple weeks as dripfed content but there are no Omega immortals or axioms, there are only a handful of omega strayed which are barely any different from regular enemies, they just hit a little harder, there seem to be only three heavy armors in the game, one you start with, one you unlock through base expansion, and one that's a drop from a boss. There are boss fights (Specifically one in The Eden, you know the one) That drop nothing. THere are certain suits like Nerve's that I thought would be gatherable later in the game but now that I've got multiple suit part collections at 100% and I've not yet gotten any of his I'm convinced it's straight up missing.
I hate when studios half-implement rarity tiers. It's annoying as shit. And I'm gonna be pissed if all the "missing" shit magically shows up in the abyss DLC.

>>23511254
Rarity doesn't really matter for armor. The yellow rarity stuff is almost all worse than the purple rarity

>>23511279
Not really the point I'm making.

>>23511254
>there seem to be only three heavy armors in the game
There are 6 heavy sets. Cratos, Crius, Acropolis, Futsunushi, Gladius, and Pallas.

>>23511310
Revenger is heavy too

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>>23511310
>>23511314
Heavy armors you fucking retard. Not Heavyweight gear.

>>23511316
Fair enough. Keep forgeting this is a thing

>Got Bullet's satellite shield
This sounds too good to be true. What is the catch to this?

Is there any world where the gun arms are worth using? They seem like a neat gimmick but their stats seemed lackluster as fuck on top of being incredibly hard to find considering the trade off.
Even the assault particle shift seems to have fallen off (I've only got a single tier 1 assault attachment so maybe stacking a few tier 3s on a lighter build could be decent?)

>>23511368
Cost a ton of memory and aren´t that great. I´m using it for a heavy build with two handed guns right now and it´s...ok. It´s a layer of protection but it´s not as good as you´d imagine

>>23511389
I´m considering using the laser rifle arm for my build only because it´s very cheap for memory and has a lot more precision than I could get from my avaliable arms at this point. I´m between using this and keeping the glitter cannon on my shoulders or switching for the halberd arm and the that weird laser rifle that´s very good but very high on memory usage with funnels for the shoulder. I´f not for the fact that I can´t rock my sword and board if I have the gun arm, I´d be using this thing exclusively

>>23511389
They're pretty useful if you play to the type matchups and absolutely trivialize eclypse because it's only threat comes from stealing your weapons which it can't do to gun arms.
> incredibly hard to find considering the trade off.
You can just buy them off the shop if you upgrade it nigga.

>>23511397
I was thinking of using it for a lightweight build to protect against anything I fail to dodge.

So do the mutation parts you get always come in a set order? If so what is the order, nearing the end and trying to figure out how to make my optimal monster wife look
>Shell Head
>Skeleton Shoulders
>Shell arms
>Might Back
>Skeleton Hips
>Might legs and chest

>>23511415
I don´t think a lightweight can reasonably equip this thing and carry weapons. Both this and the railgun for the shoulders are horribly expensive. Maybe if you shove a ton of memory ups and memory cost down on you build you might make it work...well, try it out and let us know what happens

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>>23511433
NTA but even with three level 3 memory cost reductions it still comes in at just over 500 memory requirement. On a lightweight you're gonna go with it and a single one-handed sword and that'll max out your build.

>>23511079
You can't fight that anon, there's no PvP

that second legion fight was the worst fight of the game holy shit

who the fuck designed that bullshit

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>>23511433
>>23511450
It's doable if you're willing to throw in one heavy piece for the memory and forgo shoulder weapons. The Pallas head has the highest memory in the game from what I can tell. It's technically not lightweight, but it is just as fast as one. Once I min-max my attachments it should be even better.

>stunning the normal enemy version of the grenade robot you're not supposed to beat in the opening sequence lets you use them as a turret
kino

>>23511254
>THere are certain suits like Nerve's that I thought would be gatherable later in the game but now that I've got multiple suit part collections at 100% and I've not yet gotten any of his I'm convinced it's straight up missing.
Nerves armor is a complete hodgepodge of parts plus one helmet you get in the heavyweight armor room when you return there at the end of the game.
Most of the AC's that are supposed to be "good" are all hodgepodge's of parts

>>23511491
NTA but I'd honestly just stop that gun and fit on two Salamanders. The memory cost basically doesn't exist and they are stupid good within their crit range, don't sleep on them.

>>23511508
>Most of the AC's that are supposed to be "good" are all hodgepodge's of parts
And that's a good thing. It's a mech building game. I hated the fact that in the original basically the entire cast used pre-built suits and didn't have custom ones. It's simply unrealistic. Sure some would use purist assemblies but largely custom builds would be far more common.

>>23511525
Oh. That wasn't a disparaging statement.
I love shit like that

>>23511506
Do you actually get anything for beating that thing? I know you get your items reset after the intro but I'm interested to know if there's some kind of reward. Same for the giant mothefucker you're supposed to run from.

>>23511540
Just that double laser shoulder cannon from the first game I think

>>23511540
You can't beat Centurion in the opening sequence

>>23511508
>plus one helmet you get in the heavyweight armor room when you return there at the end of the game
What? I explored that entire room and didn't see any arsenal parts. There WAS a chest behind a locked door, but there was no way to open it.

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>>23511555
Hell if I remember how you get in there
It's this thing at any rate.

>>23510883
I got some use out of kick on a heavyweight build to knock melee enemies back so I could keep shooting them without the windup of a mace

>>23511560
Those stats are decent, looks like I'm going back for it fml.

>finally build an Arsenal set I'm happy with
>still can't find any good weapons
Give me the claw or at least some more knuckles already, god damn. And yes I've been doing Beacons but none of them have had any good shit.

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>>23511584
>Give me the claw or at least some more knuckles already
Rebellion Beta.
Mountains - Lytron Basin the big open valley
where the name is written on the map.
f it's empty or there's a Dreadnought Beta on there, leave to a different map/base and come back to reset spawns.

>>23511584
>Give me the claw
The laser claw? Strays in the mountains drop this constantly. Just farm them and you'll get it.

>>23511596
>>23511607
Haven't gotten to the Mountains yet. Just beat Insania Rex or whatever. But good to know, thanks.

>>23511616
If you want it before the mountains you'll need to win the lottery on a beacon like I did.

>>23511555
Let me know if you figure out how to open that gate.

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Doshio!

>>23511665
Think about your former best friend Gearworm and try to not get too hard.

>>23511678
I quite like how you were actually friends with also everybody in the Neun very well respected by them.

>>23511681
It wouldn't be a terrible twist if it weren't for the fact that Nova is so completely oblivious to their feelings it either makes him look like a complete autist or it just looks like shit writing
>Doesn't know Arachne had a huge crush a him and was a schizo misanthrope
>Doesn't know Bullet was basically rapemeat for Axiom before becoming a Neun nor does he know about her past on the surface
>Hex literally has to spell out things to him
>Doesn't know anything at all about Gaze outside of the gorgon eye bullshit
>Completely oblivious to the fact that all of Neun was actually on board with this whole plan of genociding humanity
>Insists they were brainwashed for most of the game when Nerve was the only one who ended up being the case
>Void was supposedly his idol and he was more or less his left hand and yet he didn't know anything about him and his MD Geist plan whereas the rest of the team outside of maybe Nerve was fully on it
The only two Neun member that Nova sort of actually knows are Yaiba and maybe Legion, and he still fails to understand their motivation anyway despite being supposedly buddies
They also should have let us us the Neun folks as our own party members like they did for the baddies in the first game, but the game's so rushed we can't even fucking choose our party from the reclaimers.

>>23511707
>They also should have let us us the Neun folks as our own party members like they did for the baddies in the first game
Honestly I agree with this. At bare minimum there should have been another opening sequence mission prior to the one the game has where we go on a joint mission with the Neun and get some banter/feel for how Nova interacts with them. Then we agree to become a Centurion, and we are lead to where the game begins currently.

>>23511724
>Opening mission during one of their ops
>plenty of pre fight banter, chatter
>Mission is you eradicating a reclaimer base and leaving no survivors from who fights back
>Human civilians there are apparently going to be “handled” but that’s not your problem
>Post mission banter, you get chosen for Centurion program
Would have set up the fact that you’ve been a cold human killing bastard for a while and made “the tension” with the Reclaimers a little easier to settle
Least the story is coherent this time, I cannot recall anything about DxM in even broad strokes…

>>23511724
It sucks especially because they went out of their way to put out a "which side will you choose" style reclaimers and neun faction trailers leading up to the release.

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>>23511555
>>23511648
Not sure if you need to be on the specific post-game sidequest of learning about the Neun, but this facility had the keycard behind a console in one of the rooms that opens that door.

Haven't finished the game yet, I'm having a blast roaming around blasting shit and looting (haven't even unlocked the Heavy Mech). How fleshed out is the post-game rn? Do the fights against the Neun have higher difficulty options?

>>23511808
The rematches with the Neun don't have difficulty options but there is a SHITLOAD of post-game content. Lots of world bosses to find, parts to collect, and secret bosses that'll fuck your butt including one at the top of a tower that takes EIGHT HOURS to climb.

What gear did you guys use for taking on King? None of my melee can stagger him and his laser cannons track perfectly, and I try to block it with a shield but it comes out of nowhere at times

So what do you guys think of the weapon skills? So far only Harvester Scythe seems useful and Spray and Pray for the i-frames.

>>23511817
>Spray and Pray
This shit is legitimately worthless. The repair shot is better for fucks sake.

>>23511817
>Spray and Pray for the i-frames
Bro, you're just rotating in place, slowly. You'd better off just spamming boost if you want the i-frames.

>>23511819
Fuck you it looks cool though.

>>23511825
It looks cool sure but it's literally a waste of a slot and femto.

>>23511819
>>23511824
>>23511828
they literally included it since the first game just because they thought that shot of white glint doing it in the FA opening was badass lol

>Requesting Backup for Defense Base
Fuck, this is already giving me shit

>>23511833
It was even worse in the first game too lmao

>>23511838
to be fair it looked like white glint wasn't hitting anything either and it just got him shot off motherwill losing his left rifle lol

>>23511840
>FROM makes a point to put a hotshot showboating move in the ACFA opening that bites WG in the ass
>Marvelous for some reason thought this was so cool that they had to add it to both their games
>They even made it awful and a horrible idea just like in said opening
Actually unironically soulful, kek.

>doing the early coliseum fights
>A NEW CHALLENGER
>some guy named breaker
>whips out harvester scythe attacks on me, huge difficulty spike
>win with 1 HP left
what the fuck was that

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>>23511847
Wtf gun is that R Weapon? Looks laser a laser MG. Can you post the stats?

angel is pretty cute, also poison seems to do a lot of damage to bosses

>>23511817
I like that Spray and Pray lets you dual wield miniguns
https://x.com/wasabi123x/status/1961331329330516327

>>23511847
Gravity guns are awful, I'd drop it to get some memory back. That aside looks fun.
>>23511852
Angel is MVP for bosses, bring her whenever you can.

>>23511852
If it’s anything like the first game status effects are very good
Stun alone has been carrying me through arena fights

missiles seem pretty worthless in this game

>>23511861
The only good status for bosses is acid, the others suck.

>>23511865
You really want the heat seeking missiles, lock on missiles is pretty much worthless.

>>23511865
You're just using the wrong ones. Grab Garuda or Wrath of God.

>>23511872
ok but are those better than the higher tier shoulder cannons? because i'm using the first tier of it and i love that thing, it's like a grenade cannon from armored core

>>23511877
The shoulder cannons are much worse, they have INSANE burden and do not have more DPS. That said the shoulder cannons are still viable, use what you want.

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>>23511851
Just a gravity gun, one of the boss weapons.

>>23511859
>Gravity guns are awful, I'd drop it to get some memory back. That aside looks fun.
I get you, but I also slotted it in specifically because I had memory to spare.

>>23511886
>Just a gravity gun, one of the boss weapons
No not that, the other gun. The one in your main hand labeled R Weapon (I know it's actually your left hand)

>>23511886
>I also slotted it in specifically because I had memory to spare.
Dude half your weapons have memory reduction attachments on them and you even threw memory expansions on your armor. You do not have memory to spare.

can you avoid mutating too much if you're just selective about what factors to take

>>23511895
Just ignore the mechanic entirely until post-game when they give you a suit that removes all mutations. It'll make you better at the game to not rely on them anyway.

>>23511897
but harvester scythe....

>>23511900
Completely unnecessary. Not even the best melee skill.

For me. It's double black moon spray and pray

>>23511902
but it looks super cool

what is the best skill then

>>23511900
I cleansed my fusions from the demo, got just what was needed for harvester scythe and all I have are the tattoos. I even managed to get the shield charge skill that I love to use. I´m not fusing anymore until I get the costume to hide the mutations

>>23511906
>what is the best skill then
The one where you go ape shit and start attacking like a madman. Assault something? Whatever I forget the name. Partner it with the Limit Change skill and you can literally use it FOREVER. Makes bosses a joke.

>>23511894
Didn't really ask but you go off queen.

>>23511911
Yeah, use a high tier gauntlet you can legit just facetank any of the Neun and deck them until they die.
Limit Change giving you infinite stamina means you never fucking stop punching.

>>23511895
https://www.nexusmods.com/daemonxmachinatitanicscion/mods/13
There's a mod to learn skills without mutating further now. I don't think there's any reasonable way to control it in-game aside from either using the post-game outfit or figuring out how it works and crunching the numbers.

>>23511914
>I HAD MEMORY TO SPARE
>No you don't.
>DIDN'T ASK QUEEN YASSSSS UPVOTE ME KIND STRANGER
lol
lmao

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>>23511890
Just a random pickup.

>>23511919
Jesus christ nigger, are you this desperate for a fight? I'm not writing a fucking paragraph how it ended that way because some spactic faggot can't emotionally process a stranger on the internet sad a thing that doesn't make sense in contest. Blow me, get off my dick, kill yourself, do what you gotta do, but fuck off.
Jesus christ, you niggers and your autism. Fucking hell, get some friends for fuck's sake.

>>23511925
Holy shit you're so mad. All I did was point out your "I had extra memory" statement makes no sense when half your kit is using attachments to make up for the fact you don't have enough memory. Take a fucking walk dude, getting this upset when someone points out you're contradicting yourself isn't normal human behavior.

>R8 MY BUILD
>Anon gives constructive criticism
>Proceed to have a melty
I think you're the autistic one here.

>>23511930
>Nooo! you have to justify myself to me!!! I know best!
You're annoying. I don't care what you think you know. You don't and will never know why it's like that, you just want someone to argue with and it's fucking pathetic. You're a bitch and you're annoying as fucking hell, shut up, you're annoying.
Anon, you're annoying. How many times do I have you?

>>23511935
No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.

Where are you getting that purple laser sword? Is this one the best avaliable? So far I´m torn between the raw power of the yellow one or the high stagger of the red one, but I haven´t seen the purple yet, so I might want to wait for it before I start grinding for a new sword

>>23511942
Ask the expert to tell you since he knows fucking everything.

>>23511942
Generally you gotta run beacons or axiom dungeons for the best gear, that or farm some endgame bosses.

>>23511941
>You're annoying. I don't care what you think you know. You don't and will never know why it's like that, you just want someone to argue with and it's fucking pathetic.
You literally asked for me to rate it. I rated it and didn't attack you once during that. Getting upset like this because I did what you asked is incredibly unreasonable, seek help. You have anger issues.

Is Amgel for (You)? She's hotter than the other chick.

>I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode
Lmao you're the one having a psychotic episode here. You're throwing a temper tantrum because you asked for feedback and it wasn't universally positive.

>>23511949
>You literally asked for me to rate it.
>>23511941
>No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.

>>23511958
That comment wasn't even me, you're arguing with two people. Calm down dude holy shit, getting this mad over a shitpost is not normal, especially when what you said directly antagonized it. You were completely combative.

>>23511955
>He doesn't know
MC no way fags his way out of the game anyway
Iris is much cuter than Angel anyway

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>>23511942
Here. Kill the alpha in the diamond shaped room, rinse and repeat until it drops.

>>23511962
>That comment wasn't even me
Jesus christ can you shut the fuck up already? "Waaaa It WaSnT EvEn Me" Groovy dude, hug a rainbow, the point of giving a fuck is like half an hour ago, fuck off you're annoying. I don't understand is it a language barrier, are you having a stroke? I mean, what part of "you're annoying" do you have trouble understanding? LIke I'm supposed to be the mad one, you just keep coming back in spite the fact I told you that you're annoying like six fucking times. Dude, shut the fuck up.

>>23511941
>If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build
I don't know how you think you're in the right here when your response to valid feedback was:
>>23511914
>Didn't really ask but you go off queen.
You did ask lmao.

>Anon posts shitter build
>Doesn't get praised for it like on plebbit
>Proceeds to shit up the thread
Kek

>>23511972
>>23511974
>>23511941
>No , you don't get this free fucking pass. If I ask you what you think of the build I ask you what you think of the build, I didn't ask you to have a psychotic episode over a comment I made five minutes later. Go fuck yourself.
Keep melting down, it was aalready addressed.

>>23511976
Next time don't ask for someone to rate your build if you're gonna get mad when they do exactly that, champ. I'm done here.

>ask for a build rate
>Dude tells me to get rid of a gun
>Make a secondary anecdote without providing context
>Faggot acts like he knows me and writes an essay
>Tell him to fuck off
>HEKKIN NO YOU HAVE TO TAKE MY EXPERT CRITICISM THIS IS ALL RELATED TO A RATE YOUR JUST MAD I DIDN'T PRAISE YOU
Funny, I don't remember telling you to fuck off when you said to take off the gun. Almost as if I didn't have a problem with you saying it as I even took it off. I didn't even really have a problem you misunderstanding even though you had a fucking atitude about it, but now I'm the bad guy because you had a fucking meltdown over a generic "didn't ask" response on 4chan?
No, next time I'll keep doing the same, I won't cater my life around your autism.
>I'm done here.
Did you seriously just announce you're leaving in an internet conversation? No wonder you got so triggered over getting called annoying, you probably hear it on a daily basis.