So there has been a recent interview with Gundam GQuuuuuuX director Kazuya Tsurumaki in which he describes how the show started with a plan, but was changed on the fly, with a lot of the ending being changed apparently while the show was airing(?)This is very interesting to me. No matter what people think about the show (I thought it was messy but a LOT of fun) or what overly negative shitposters say they think about the show (much of 4chan's negativity bias can safely be ignored as people trying to get a rise out of each other), it was probably the most fun I've had watching anime in at least a decade. Maybe the most fun I've had watching an anime, as it was airing, in my life. I will not pretend otherwise. Guessing at where the show was going and then seeing what actually happened the next week was a thrilling experience. But it was also a uniquely modern experience, where people were giving mass feedback to the show essentially in real time. This is part of why it was so much fun: this modern reality of mass social media discussion around a show as big as Gundam GQuuuuuuX, and the creators of the show apparently shifting and adjusting things in reaction to live feedback ....That is completely unique to our times. This is something to think about. The idea of starting a production with an outline of a plan, and then adjusting it live in reaction to the audience: that's quite exciting. I would not say I'd want everything to be that way, sometimes an artist has something to say and should say what they need to say, against the audience. But this is a fascinating reality of modern anime production. Like leaping into Zero Gravity.
>>23513390>a lot of the ending being changed apparently while the show was airing(?)I don't think it's that serious, the show was still being made while it was airing yes but there were no delays in schedule so I doubt it was "a sudden change" or something in a way that hurt production, the ending probably had changes from what they had planned but that's a given in original mecha shows.
>>23513390 >That is completely unique to our timesOur times are looking pretty fucking grim if that's the case.
>>23513390>This is part of why it was so much fun: this modern reality of mass social media discussion around a show as big as Gundam GQuuuuuuX, and the creators of the show apparently shifting and adjusting things in reaction to live feedback ....>That is completely unique to our times.And it's consistently lead to terrible works.It's a sign of creators with no backbone or vision who offload decision making to an incoherent mass. No wonder we barely see any works with long staying power or paradigm shifting gravitas in this kind of creative environment.
>>23513413>>23513433>these niggas think older works didn't shift during production in reaction to feedback
>>23513462They did. But I don't think they were anywhere near as reactive. The feedback wasn't immediate.
>>23513433>It's a sign of creators with no backbone or visionThe thing is, GQuuuuuuX does have a backbone. It does tell a story which was largely planned, even if details were changed on the fly.I am not saying I want completely unplanned shows, but I think this situation of immediate mass feedback is really interesting.
>>23513487They brought back Kira
>>23513462Having the thoughts of your audience and the general public being streamed to you 24/7 through a smartphone isn't the same as getting a few fanmail letters or seeing some headlines on the tv about your work.
>>23513496>a few fanmail lettersOkay tourist.
>>23513390Yes, the show was fucking garbage, we get it
>>23513494The internet existed when this show aired and Japan was somewhat ahead of the curve in internet culture then since they had higher quality internet
>>23513594The best gundam in 25 years.
>>23513610Even better than unicorn or thunderbolt?
>>23513617Unicorn and Thunderbolt are both adaptations of novel and manga, so they aren't comparable in terms of writing.GQX did bring back Tomino UC.
>>23513748>GQX did bring back Tomino UC.Maybe if Challia died a horrible death at the end. Alas he was Anno's self-insert so too precious to be killed off.
Two months since this slop concluded and its already mostly forgotten.This is something to think about.
>>23513838>>23513839Keep seething.
>'creativity'>steal 90% of your shit from the original gundamHuh.......................................
>>23513390This is already a thread. >>23512362 Both you and that OP didn't post a source to boot.
>>23513965Thought I saw yet another non bait thread that did post sauce.Was a recent panel, but I haven't watched it myself. At any rate, the issue of mass reactions being available to studios immediately, and the issue of this being a new modern reality (unlike what >>23513595 is suggesting) is a real issue worth thinking and talking about.
>>23514557Your zoomer observations aren't worth talking about, fucktard.
>>23514569First of all, not a zoomer. Second of all, I know your reflex is to rest on the comfort of your chronic negativity, but I am asserting that this modern reality is something to potentially be excited about. Something cool, interesting, and completely unique to the time.
>The idea of starting a production with an outline of a plan, and then adjusting it live in reaction to the audience: that's quite exciting. Problem is when writing you generally need multiple drafts to get things to work and doing it while airing probably means you are barley getting the first draft in, especially when the whole show is 1 season and not 2-4. Did they describe what they changed? I imagine the multiverse Lala was always going to be a thing but Shuji leaving and coming back in the multiverse gundam as an "adjustment".
>>23513390I'm all for improv in art but it works a hell of a lot better/easier in music than it does anywhere else.
>>23513390>modern stuff is dogshit for a number of reasons I know anon... I know
This kind of chronic negativity is getting really old >>23514714It's not just a 4chan problem. People can be even worse on the normalnet.
>>23514718its not chronic negativity at all, gwitch was disappointing and qux was somehow worse and being optimistic or trying to find isolated parts of the show that weren't as bad doesnt change that
>>23514851GQuuuuuuX sparked joy for me.
>>23515041many people enjoyed it, the ones seething are just a vocal minority
>>23515041>>23515046it was shit, get over it
>>23515041>androgynous pokeslop characters crying over boys sparked joy for meFTFY
>>23515211Yes, and?
>>23515293shameful
>>23515397Shuji reminded me of myself in my highschool days.
>>23513610actual retard, please rope troon
>>23513907Anon......i don't think they're "seething.">>23513610i can't wait to watch it
I don't really hate a story being written as it goes but it just didn't really pan out here.Too much of this show's story depended heavily on Shuji's characterization once you learned his true motivation, and his relationship with Lalah, both of which really did not feel well executed or even particularly interesting.Challia also felt pretty overbearing until the very end, as if he was hijacking the show from the supposed lead characters. And I don't really feel it had payoff either.
>>23513390>This is part of why it was so much fun: this modern reality of mass social media discussion around a show as big as Gundam GQuuuuuuX, and the creators of the show apparently shifting and adjusting things in reaction to live feedback ....>That is completely unique to our times.Is it...? I thought comic books were always like this with editorials and shit. Granted it wasnt billions of people at once just a few hardcore autists writing letters.
>Letting fan input effect story progression in real time >Unique to our times Bro, that's how they wrote Lost two decades ago.
>>23515046>vocal minori-ack
>>23516636Let's see with from mercury's reviews.
>>23513390>Maybe the most fun I've had watching an anime, as it was airing, in my lifeAh so you were living under a rock
>>23515889Too much of the story was left off screen for the viewer to fill in the blanks
>>23515889>as if he was hijacking the show from the supposed lead charactersWhat do you mean? He is the lead character.
>>23516800...it was a big rock
>>23516808Then they really should have given him a more important climax than just keeping Char busy while the fate of the universe is decided between three teenagers.
>>23513390faggot show faggot studio faggots fans
Man this show left me feeling so hollow. It's like I'm still waiting for a conclusion to all the build up and world building they spent time on In the show, only for it all to end on such a vague note.All those episodes setting up Machu and Nyaan being out against each other? Undone like it was never a real conflict. Shuji being some sort of happy go lucky newtype empath? I guess that was an act and he's actually a freaky stalker who's grown accustomed to simulating the murder of the girl he loves over and over.The aftermath of this bizarre twisted version of UC? The actual fate of Machu and Nyaan? Ehh who cares, it's summer time! Swimsuits!
>>23515732I assume when you sniffed random women the outcome was different?
>>23516891they weren't random
>>23516876In true Gundam fashion, the ending is yet again some newtype deus ex machina let down.
>>23513390>rewriting the show on the fly is exciting and modern!!yeah, just like US politics, where every week is a new filler arc written by idiots reacting to Twitter outrageAnno-tier hacks panic-rewriting Gundam is basically Biden trying to give a speech: no plan, no structure, just random words until the clock runs out.muh audience feedback is just code for lowest common denominator slop. All-time great Gundam wasn’t afraid to piss people off. Meanwhile Anno-tier hacks rewrite on the fly and then pretend it’s deep.Keep worshipping improv anime-by-committee if you want. I’ll stick with creators who actually have a spine.
>>23516876>Ehh who cares, it's summer time! Swimsuits!It wont be summer for long. Global cooling is in effect and eventually they wont have hot weather...
>>23516666I don't know what site he's using but an initial glance on google they seem equivalent with Witch doing slightly better but slightly more polarized.
>>23520718>yeah, just like US politicsWhat the fuck is wrong with americans.
>>23513390>much of 4chan's negativity bias can safely be ignored as people trying to get a rise out of each otherWhat a cope lol. I had defended this show in /m/ threads and had hoped for the best, but the last two episodes were just too much and I stopped giving the nepotistic parasites writing and directing this the benefit of the doubt - they just didn't give a shit to present a half-decent product that would stand on its own merits, that anybody but themselves would appreciate. I too would like to be paid for my circlejerk fanfiction of Gundam kek.
>>23516876>The aftermath of this bizarre twisted version of UC? The actual fate of Machu and Nyaan? Ehh who cares, it's summer time! Swimsuits!I'd like to believe that was kinda the point, and the show was meant to be some sort of call-out to how the franchise treats it's alternate universes. That they're supposed to be these self-contained stories and afterwards Sunrise just abandons them in order to crank out more OYW content, with even the presence of Turn A effectively making it so those timelines will eventually be consumed by the Black History. By leaving things open, it also leaves open the possibility of continuing the world of GQuuuuuuX and how it won't lead to the same results. It's not even the first AU version of the UC timeline, with Zeta ANT, Origin and Thunderbolt coming to mind but likely will never be followed up on, but GQuuuuuuuX was the one that made the RX-78-2 the destroyer of worlds so it's doing something a little different.I'd like to believe that, but it's likely that the fanboyism of the creators played more of a factor than any actual intent.
>>23525709Quiet zoomer.
>>23525727They already did it with eva rebuild, do it again would be a dick move
>>23525727It's actually a reference to the ending of the Gundam novel where Sayla visits the beach and knows she'll meet Amuro as a newtype ghost.
Tomino was right.
>>23526742Based.
>>23521676Oh nonononono, Gcuckies, our response?
>>23526742Considering all the stuff that this show takes from the novel, I'm inclined to believe this.
