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Why didn't you try to understand G-Reco, /m/?
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>>23515978
Because it didn't try to understand its own audience.
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>>23515978
We do? /m/ is the only forum that gives g-reco some nuance perspectives.
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>>23515978
I did.
it was pretty straight forward road trip adventure story with multiple factions.
frankly, I was disappointed that it wasn't as challenging as it was made it out to be by people.
I want to watch the films, is EG good? I don't trust him.
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>>23516018
>is EG good?
For this one? It's fine.
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I did. I liked it a lot.
People get too hung up on all the extra factions that pretty much just exist to hammer on that pretty much everyone besides the heroes are making wild grabs for power due everyone deciding to blow off the technological taboos around the same time.
Once you understand that it's really not particularly overwhelming.
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>>23515978
>The generation that grew up after the war was long over doesn't understand how awful war is.
It wasn't difficult to understand.
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>>23515978
I understood just fine
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>>23515978
It was just bad, it wasn't hard to understand.
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>>23516018
If EG is still the same Encodergasm from a decade ago, he puts out the best Gundam BD rips as he preserves the grain and such. I assume he does a good job on digital stuff also.
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>>23515978
wow! cool robot!
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>>23517223
This but unironically
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>series has 8 separate factions by the end
>anons pretend they didn’t need to look up info online to understand the show
Lol
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>>23515978
I'm a little retarded
Cool worldbuilding though. I had no idea what the fuck I was watching but there was something there.
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After watching the TV and movies back to back I managed to grasp most of the plot and details and think G-Reco is a deeply interesting story about how conflict and war is informed and justified by the grand narratives that different cultures perpetuate amongst themselves and how those narratives that justify war must be overcome by crossing cultural boundaries and taboos.
The main example of this is the narrative around the origin and control of the photon batteries shifting as the main characters cross from the territory of one faction to another. First photon batteries are controlled by capital tower, then it turns out capital tower merely distributes the batteries that arrive from Towasanga space who actually produces them, then Towasanga turns out to be a middle man for Venus globe who actually produces the batteries, and you see the pretext the faction leaders use to wage war become muddied and break down in the process until they are reduced to mere greed and ambition.
Theres also the worlds religious aspect, how the divine "promised land" from the perspective of earthnoids is space, and how its the other way around for spacenoids, and yes, the shift in Bellris motivation as the person he was fighting for goes from his love interest to his sister, which causes him to re-examine his purpose within the war.

I say that but does anyone understand what Cumpa Rusita's motivation was? He thought spacenoids were rotting politically and spiritually from a lack of war but he detests earthnoids for being primitive war mongers? Did anyone make a connection I fail to see?
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>>23518011
Cumpa was from Venus Globe, and viewed the mutations going on in the population there as a sign of the degradation of humanity. He thinks war will strengthen humanity through survival of the fittest.
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>>23517432
You don't. Because that's not the important part. Really you people get so hyper fixated on minutia everything else just goes right past you.
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>>23518404
Thematic media literacy is dead with anifags
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>>23515978
It's a shame so many people simply aren't good enough for shows like G Reco, GQuX, Cross Agne or Getter
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>>23515978
A/Z was better
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>>23516192
And it's not even that confusing once you remember the factions. While they aren't one-to-one of course, you have
>Ameria, an Earth faction that wants to make moves on space(Federation)
>Towasanga, a Space faction that wants to make moves on earth (Zeon)
>Capital Army, a faction with powerful legal connections (Titans, A-Laws)
>G-IT Labs, a faction that builds all the latest and fanciest technology (Anaheim, SNRI)
>Rayhunton faction/ Megafauna, a rag-tag group with people from every faction trying to keep the setting from burning down (AEUG, Freeden, Three Ship Alliance)
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>>23518011
He's a big hypocrite that saw Earthnoids as primitive for their warfare (which he partially instigated as well) but saw war as something good for Spacenoids.
Basically like how Treize talks about the tragedy of war but assassinates all the peaceful people and surrounds himself with warmongers and war criminals.
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>>23515978
I understood that Belliri failed to fuck his sister.
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>>23515978
I loved it but paused and rewatched dialogue when it wasn't clear.
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>>23520959
That one doujin is canon to me
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>>23515978
Is G-Reco dubbed?

Yes I am fully capable of reading subtitles and have done so for years.

But I've found a new appreciation for Tomino shows when viewed in English.

It also an extra layer of understanding if I view them in dubbed English. I can relax a little more while watching.....instead of translating what Tomino meant.
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>>23521395
my guy
the dubs aren't any more accurate than the subs
less, if anything
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>>23515978
Because the non understanding tomino making is not making sales that old shithead brain is gone rotting due to senility
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>>23515978
nee-san tiddies <3!
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>>23517432
As someone who's fairly media literate, and normally doesn't have trouble following the plot of most media. I had trouble with G-Reco and had to look stuff up, I don't think I'm the only one who had that issue when it was first airing.
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>>23523124
>im usually very media literate
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Shame the manga was never finished.
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>>23515978
I understood it pretty well on first watch, anon. But I'm not a mouthbreather from /a/ like you, so...
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>>23523124
You use words like "MEDIA LITERATE" it's no wonder you had trouble
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I feel like there's a certain issue with audiences now where they just get so hyper fixated on lord or world building elements that they can scarcely pay attention to the actual plot ones. It's always complaining about all the factions and the background stuff. The main plot is very simple and straight forward. Megafuana crew questions the why of the world and seeks out answers. That everyone is fighting and getting caught up in things is sort of the point. Very few people question the why.
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What did Manny understand here?
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>>23525175
They fucked.
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>>23523712
me in the background
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>>23525175
I assume it's from the film, cause in the show this moment is shown shown as if inverted.
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>>23515978
It refuses to understand me. Why should i understand it?
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>>23525249
Downgrade from tv
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>>23525175
What Manny did to her hair is the worst war crime in the franchise
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>>23525519
It hurts so much.
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>>23523712
cap donyell is such a fucking Unc
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>>23525533
It was so beautiful...
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G-Reco sequel when? What happened to Gundam Himiko that Tomino was working on?
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>>23526607
Still in the works supposedly.
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>>23518404
Explain the goals of the Capital Guard, Capital Army, Ameria, Megafauna, Towasanga, Rayhunton Family, Venus Globe, and G-IT Laboratory. For all that have the same goals, clarify how exactly they differ.
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>>23526923
No. Because, as I stated. That's not the important part. The point is, there's conflict, nobody knows WHY there's conflict, Megafauna figures out why.
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>>23526923
>Capital Guard
Protect the elevator and photon battery distribution, stop everyone else from breaking every taboo.
>Capital Army
Cumpa fucking shit up for everyone else
>Ameria, Towasanga
Both want more photon batteries to get the upper hand over the other
>Rayhunton
Wanted a more peaceful return to earth but Dorette's faction fucked them over cause they wanted war. The remaining loyalists to the family wanted to find Bellri and Aida so they sent Raraiya down with G Self.
>Venus Globe, GI-T Labs
Deep space fucking sucks, wants to claim land on earth by force.
>Megafauna
Originally sent by Ameria to snoop on the Capital but Aida and the crew basically decided to go around and figure out what the fuck everyone was even fighting over. Ameria seems to tolerate it cause they're getting good combat data from Megafauna's MSes anyways.

I haven't watched the show since it aired
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>>23526936
Wait, correcting myself, Towasanga was the moon people (Dorette) wasn't it
Ameria's neighbor was Gondawan or something
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>>23526936
The G-IT Labs people are the only ones that want to go back to the Earth. The Venus Globe people under President bodysuit actually wanted to finish working on the globe to transport the Earth.
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>>23523712
delicious Moist Nugget...
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>>23515978
Bellri didn't fuck his sister?
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>>23521386
Which doujin?
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>>23527731
The one where Bellri Zenam Fucks his blood sister Aida Rayhunton
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Tv vs movies?
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>>23529745
both.
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>>23515978
Because a normal human being already struggles keeping one communication channel open while G-Reco demands I pay attention to a dozen at a time.
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>>23525533
BOOTS
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>>23526607
>Himiko
Is it gonna be a mommy issues show like Victory?
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>>23525519
>>23525533
>>23525540
you guys do know hair grows back right
If she could grow it out that much by, like, 16 she can get it back again soon enough.
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>>23515978
/m/, what horror has the Reco seen to cause the face, inb4 my mom...as she died 3 weeks ago.
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>>23530050
>he doesn't know about the character development haircut.
she is never going back to long hair.
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>>23530939
move it, chowder head
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>>23530939
Mick Jacku.....my beloved....
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>>23531530
Mick Jack is a tall glass
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>>23529745
TV was a dynamic watching experience, but movies were a more complete viewing experience with a slightly better ending (with Nug and Bellri sharing a tent). They're both fine though.
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>>23532297
Bellri the BEAST!
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>>23532409
>Mask comes out like a screaming lunatic
>WHO ARE YOU! LEAVE ME ALONE!
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I don't understanding why people still talking about this show!
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cuz the world is not square
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>>23533118
We still talk about L-Gaim despite it being similar quality wise
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>>23534335
I wonder if they genetically engineered entire replacement ecosystems to compensate for all the mass extinction events Earth has had by then
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>>23534376
I thought the implication is that human intervention has reduced so much in RC that nature has taken over once again.
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>>23518414
I sent >>23523939
>feel like there's a certain issue with audiences now where they just get so hyper fixated on lord or world building elements that they can scarcely pay attention to the actual plot ones.

I feel like that might have always been a thing but it was quarantined to comic books. I dont read them much at all but from what I've gotten from cultural osmosis the way they obsess about canon and need crises to fix canon reminds me of what you're describing

Maybe whatever was making comic book nerds autistic about this shit just spread. People tend to understand nuance and figurative and metaphorical thematic etc stuff a lot less. Plot is literal. Characters can be literal but are complicate. When the plot dont matter people get mad and dont like it because they think they need to understand it. But once you stop trying to understand every single big of minutia you actually understand what you're watching.
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I didn't get this show at all and hated it when it was airing. Then I saw brain powerd this year and finally I understood . Not just this but all of Tomino.
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>>23534392
its been thousands of years and those animals looks like they came from the 2000s their should have been some evolutionary divergence by now
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>>23534401
Plenty of species that have had minimal change for hundreds of thousands of years.
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>>23534399
The whole Crisis thing gets over stated. DC has only rebooted twice since the 1930s and one got rolled backed pretty quickly.

>But once you stop trying to understand every single big of minutia you actually understand what you're watching.
This is always what I try to tell people. Don't worry about it. Because while people do joke about the years of canon and continuity it's not actually that confusing or even complicated if you just sit down and read it. Oh it's a lot to explain and if you try to take it in all at once it's going to be a nutty but all this shit happened over the course of years. If you were to, for example, pick up any Marvel Epic Collection or DC Finest, I promise you with 100 percent absolute certainty you will understand it. Comics were, and still are, episodic in nature. The continuity and history are nice and they do add dimension but they're not required. Once you accept that there IS a history you don't really need to know what it is. You can figure things out via context. If Mongol shows up looking to get revenge on Superman you don't really need to know specifically why he's out for blood because the context is clear.

It's honestly rather annoying because you can ask any comic fan and there's a high probability they didn't start from the very beginning of them. Everyone in my age group (low forties) most likely started with some random issue already in the hundreds. In fact Editor in Chief, Big Jim Shooter held the stance that EVERY comic is potentially someone's first. This didn't mean there wasn't ongoing stories and plot. It didn't mean there was no continuity and these were throw away. It just meant they were written in a way that was easy to get into. And it is easy. You just need to do it.
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>>23534426
all of them though? and through multiple colony drops and nanite swarms?
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>>23534187
>>23534335
The art is still amazing even on small things like this.
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>>23534335
what a beautiful, beautiful show
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>>23515978
I forgot what the plot of Reconguista was about. Gimme a quick rundown?
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>>23538149
Everyone on earth fights over solar batters for power. People selling the batteries have a plot to take back earth because living in space sucks. Also one guy wants war because we got soft. Nobody asks questions because of societal taboos so the heroes go to space to figure shit out. Belri wants to fuck his sister.
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>>23538151
jej
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>>23538156
wish Kei-co just did more art in general
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>>23534401
EVOLUTION TAKES AT THE VERY FUCKING LEAST A FEW TEN THOUSAND YEARS DIPSHIT
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>>23538805
its been at least that long from 0079 to reguild era, on top of multiple ecosystem wrecking mass extinction events
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>>23538805
G-Reco is after Turn A so that's enough time for the Earth to heal and by Turn A, most of the Earth was already healed (except for parts of Galia/Gondwan) so thank you to the Healing of Turn A!
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>>23515978
I got it. It was awesome and based. Would be good if it has 10-20 more episodes to better flesh out some of the factions and spend more time with characters that were fairly underexplored that appeared in the latter part of the show.
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>>23538853
G-IT Lab guys suffered the most. I will check in the 4th film to see if they get expanded upon.
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>>23517432
just put your phone down while you watch
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>>23544290
no fuck you
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>>23517432
This is why it got trashed during the original TV run. Nobody has time to remember all that shit on a weekly basis, marathoning is the only proper way to watch G-Reco.
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>>23544750
that says more about our species then it does about the show
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>>23544813
Distressing really. Nobody can remember shit.
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I'm watching it next
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>>23545376
Nice, enjoy anon
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I only watched it when it was airing, I need to watch the movies now and make more webms
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>>23515978
To understand you have to watch it.
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>>23534500
There’s never been a nanite swarm I can remember by the time UC switches to RC
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>>23546647
corn soup!
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>>23520871
>*winks at the audience*
What did Tomino mean by this?
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>>23520871
Bell's mom is kind of hot.
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>>23538805
It depends on the species and how often they produce offspring, single-celled organisms can evolve at hilarious speeds, animals like elephants not so much.
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>>23538149
People who forgot how to wage war try to wage war and fail miserably at it.
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>>23545363
Why wasn't the bridge inside the spaceboat instead of being an obvious target?
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>>23515978
It's such a waste of great designs. Fuck Tomino, that old fool.
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>>23515978
G-Self looks like a young Gundam.
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Disappointing that a lot of G-Reco's mecha don't have model numbers and/or stats.
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watching movie 1
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>>23550805
I already don't understand the status quo and why Belri and the cheerleader whores even want to save the pirate girl from imprisonment.
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ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA!
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wow they finally addressed taking a shit inside a mobile suit
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very important
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How do you handle the smell?
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CHESTOOOOOOOO
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sexo
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Cahil was the ultimate KEK
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TSUKAME PURAIDOOOO~
the tv version animation is really fun
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>>23515978
\(゜∀゜ ) TSUKAME PURAIDO !
\( `ー´)TSUKAME SUCCESS !
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>>23544750
Even when you binge it, its too much superfluous info about too many similar factions whom dont matter that much
I get that thats "the point", but you cant be shocked when that turns away casual viewers
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Ep2
Belri looking cool
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wtf what happened after Turn A?
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>>23515978
I enjoy Aldnoah Zero
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>>23552823
Nothing. Turn A is the end.
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>>23530940
Did the psycommu technology make a comeback in the Regild Cemtury?
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>>23556070
Yes!
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i can't turn it on not my problem you watch again for me
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>>23518011
He’s basically Treize
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>>23518011
Cumpa is a representation of the old men incharge who wants to fuck up the world to "leave a legacy" like Trump, Putin, Tomino, etc.
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damn I totally forgot about this petite sex demon
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cuckqueen...
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>>23556070
It's not explicitly stated anywhere, but there are newtype weapons, like the Lucifer's skirt funnels.
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>>23550806
He's in love, love at first sight
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>>23517432
3/4ths of them have like two to three relevent members and only exist to act as more examples of people grabbing for power.
Did you get confused at all the different teams and partnerships in Build Fighters?
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>>23560046
>>23560056
I remember the watch along thread losing its shit when manny called her ano onna
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>>23560143
I love flatties so much it's unreal
PURUPURUPURUPURUPURUPURUPURUPURU
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>>23515978
I'm a brainlet
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>>23515978
I didnt want a bootleg Eureka Seven
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>>23556070
>>23560066
Newtypes apparently are still a thing. One of the episodes was literally named "sound of newtypes" and is about bellri getting spooked by the sensation of death after killing rockpie who is implied to be one also. It also happens to him elsewhere in the series. Raraiya is also a newtype. They are still around but very rare and no one has a word for them anymore so that people dont really distinguish them from other humans at all.
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>>23560344
I've only watched the 3rd movie, but is the G-Self not just only letting Newtypes move it? I thought that was what was implied, especially since Bell was sensing emotions from the princess.
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>>23560348
No, its based on the Rayhunton code with Raraiya as the only exception so she could take the suit to earth where the resistance that made the G-Self hoped she would meet Bellri and Aida. It scans the Iris of the pilot for some pattern specific to the Rayhunton family and only lets those pilot it. Raraiya is registered as the only other person that can use it I guess. No Newtype stuff involved, its a coincidence that Raraiya is one also.
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>>23560352
Raraiya is a newtype?
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>>23560449
She can use the G-Lucifers Psycommnu weapons and during the final battle when she goes to stop the Ameria fleet she says she can tell what the Amerian soldiers are thinking and how they treat war through presumably Newtype telepathy
Its not so important anyway. Newtypes are more of a footnote in G-Reco.
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>>23515978
I haven't even made it there yet. I started watching Gundam in production order, gor a bit of cold feet during Wing but powered through, then got burnt out watching SEED and Destiny in what felt going through many past tropes but masking them with gore and war crimes. I'm not saying they were bad shows, but I had enough of the franchise by then.
Maybe one day I'll start watching Gundam shows again.
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>>23560929
you don't like gundam
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>>23560267
Eureka Seven is bootleg Overman King Gainer anyway
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>>23560929
>I'm not saying they were bad shows,
You should be.
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>>23560929
Production order isn't a hard rule after CCA.
As for AUs, you can pick anything that interest you.
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>>23560929
Why would you watch anything seed related?
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>>23552823
You know how the rich and powerful do all sorts of fucked up things today? Imagine that, but now they have giant robots to use as washing machines and cow carriers.
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20 minutes into movie 3
I'm so lost right now with all the different factions and I don't even understand the status quo and especially the SCALE of the world (earth). How many countries are there and how much is the earth population then?

Let me refresh my understanding...

1. So the Earth is under an authoritarian rule of Capital Territory for a long time (1000+ years?) where all the nations get their energy/battery handout quota and halt technological advancement.
2. A country that doesn't like this, Ameria and its Space Pirate fleet attacked the space elevator... for what purpose? using G-Self that somehow fell into their hand from the sky (+ Raraiya) that for some reason only Aida could pilot.
3. Bellri and co managed to capture G-Self, but later decided to save Aida (for what reason?) and Belri + Noredo ended up joining the Space Pirate so casually. for some reason, Belri could also activate G-Self.
4. Capital Army pursued the Pirate to recapture G-Self(?) and they kept fighting each other until they didn't, for whatever reason.
5. Now the Capital Army and Pirate are moving together to go to Sankt Port.... for what? why are they allied now?
6. and then there's this mysterious Towasanga place where they manufactured the batteries, and also the Gundams?

idk man it's so confusing.
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>>23561227
Capital doesn't rule, it just is highly influential because of its monopoly on the cell distrubution and the ritual and spiritual aspects of earth inhabitants. They're more like the medieval Vatican than a ruler.

America and Gondwana ware fighting, which Capital doesn't care about apart from the fact they want in or control of the cells to get the upper hand in their war.

The swapping sides and changing alliances is actually pretty historical; people are just too used to modern era conflicts in media, but even then there's a bunch of switching side politics that can happen.
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>>23550825
Answering the big questions.
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>>23533260
Better than Z and ZZ, and better than most of the other mecha shows around its era? Yeah, thag makes sense.
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>>23561260
No, that doesn't make sense. That's just shit posting & snarky slander.
>thag
Retard.
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>>23561227
>it's so confusing
Not really.
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>>23561280
L-Gaim was better than Z/ZZ. Actually watch all three shows. What else was around G-Reco? A/Z?
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>>23561227
Holy filtered
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>>23561227
Imagine not going in with good faith and getting filtered this hard
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>>23561412
>no explanation
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>>23515978
I understood it, the characters were just boring
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>>23561227
1. No, the Capital Territory is just the north South America/Central American region the Capital Tower holds. They have the space elevator, so they're in charge of receiving and distributing photon batteries, which makes them very influential, but that doesn't mean they control the world.

2. Ameria wants to probe the Capital Tower and then capture it to monopolize batteries. The "pirates" is just a pretense for the country to claim innocence when the pirates are inevitably identified as Amerian citizens. It's similar to Corsairs or like the Vietcong (which was confirmed to be a NVA operation). The government gets to wash their hands of the matter by saying they're just pirates, not military.

3. Bellri wants to help Aida at the prisoner's tower the first time because he fell for her. But the second time, he joins her on the Megafauna because he puts it together that she's actually an Ameria soldier, and he comes to believe that his growing rapport with Colonel Cumpa is Cumpa entrusting him with a secret mission to figure out what the Amerians are doing. He ends up spying on the Amerian space fleet's movements from space, right before his fight with Dellensen. But that mission is something Bellri imagined in his head. You have to infer this from both the stuff Bellri overhears, as well as what he says and thinks, as well as getting into his head a little bit, because none of this is stated outright but is somewhat implied in the dialogue like Bellri thinking "so she really is Amerian military," and telling Noredo "the Colonel is testing us," and other stuff that suggests he's getting suspicious of Aida while also imagining a special story for himself.

4. The Capital Army is a newly formed organization under Cumpa, mainly from Capital Guard members, who are glorified space elevator mechanics. They're people who barely understand what a military is and they're a mess of an organization only held together by Cumpa.
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5. Yeah they work together. At that point it's more or less confirmed that the Megafauna is an Amerian military ship. The Capital Army, under Cumpa, is like a semi-autonomous organization in the Capital Territory. They're not directly aligned with the Capital Tower, for which Wilmit (Bellri's mom) is the director of. She goes around Cumpa and meets with Aida's dad, who's an Amerian military bigshot and they decide Ameria and the Tower will address the threat from space together.

Capital Tower at this point has two factions, the Army and the normal Tower operations, including the Guard which characters like Kerbes belongs to. There's also space pope, but he's mainly just a figurehead. Technically the Army has the Capital Territory's civilian government prime minister on their side, which is why they're so powerful and well funded, but Bellri's mom is the actual tower, as in the space elevator's, operations director so she has a lot of influence too. And the Guard seem to be on her side even if they're just using old MS mainly meant for maintenance.

6. Towasanga is not where the batteries are manufactured. They're just the main delivery hub in space. It's like how UPS might deliver from one central hub to another, and then have USPS or DHL do the last mile delivery. The Capital Tower is the last mile delivery from Sankto Porto to Earth.

G-Reco doesn't explain everything you need to know up front. Some things get explained or will only make sense in hindsight when you have more information. The narrative is like the characters' understanding of their world, it's not omniscient.
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