Yo I just finished Gundam and started Zeta why is everyone getting vibe checked all of a sudden
>>23517494I took a break after msg before watching zeta but if bright goes around slapping people's shit then I've really been missing out
>>23517494Zeta is like "What if MSG was moodier and more depressing and also what if sexism was bad?" It's vibe check the show. It's the best UC entry, by far.
>>23517728In the first 10 episodes bright gets knocked the fuck out. It's fun. All those men crowding around him. It's like a pseudo rape scene
>>23517873>if sexism was bad
>>23517494the apocalypse of '79 made everyone a bit insane
>>23518608It gets your girlfriends killed by a freak with a girl's name!
>>23518608There's literally a subplot involving a rape victim using combat to regain her agency. Kamille is intentionally given a girl's name, the show asks really important questions about masculinity and our self perception as well as our perception of women. There's a reason the protagonist is constantly having his manhood challenged and then ends up a vegetable when he tries to go giga-chad.
>>23517494Imagine if there was a drinking game for every time someone got punched or slapped in Zeta.
>>23518076Fujos are right again FUCK>>23519263>implying women have agency to begin with
Why did he get worse after Kamille corrected him?>hm I think I'll drop Axis that's what Char would do
>>23519538Kamille became a vegetable
>>23519574he went super saiyajin
>>23517494Your favs could neverhttps://youtu.be/GAJhEuKOzro?si=LFIAEbbQynjQO0JU
>>23519829you just know fa felt disappointed
You ever play an MDickie game, where he bases all of his games off the same wrestling game engine and fights can break out for no reason at any time involving anyone?That's Zeta.
>>23519896MDickie should make a mecha game
Am I losing a lot of context by not really caring about Kamille's name?Is it as heavy as like a boy named Sue?
>>23520280Yes The character literally exists as a question of how society defines and values masculinity
>>23520400not really, it has more to do with how kamille sees himself, when he tried to sympathize with four and how their names affected their lives
>>23520280He was named after a French sculptor who may or may not have actually went schizo but was controlled and committed by her family and wasted away to death in an asylum. If you count ZZ his ending's at least a little more optimistic than that.
>traditional masculinity bad!>soft empathetic sissy men good!I fucking hate you foids so much...
>>23523476Mashymre gives me the ick
>>23524257He was a total Chad though. Not some femboy cuck crybaby.
>>23523476Blame Tomino
>>23524551Tomino ia a woman in disguise.
>>23523476That wasn't the point either, the point was to demonstrate that being a piece of shit meathead doesn't define masculinity, being brave in the face of adversity and choosing to do the right thing and risk your life for a good cause is infinitely more manly. That's why jerod spends the whole first half of the show being a bumbling retard and getting his ass kicked, because even though he is the masculine heroic archetype, he's ultimately serving evil and not working toward developing understanding or being a decent person. He follows his marching orders like a good little soldier and gets fucked for it.
blacks watch gundam??
>>23519574he got better
>>23523476Kamille tackled and knocked out sarah after she confessed to commiting a terrorismHe's just, evidently, quite insecure about his "girly" name at the start. They spell it out for you.
>>23527648PLS SAY SIKE PLEASE SAY SIKENIGGA
Ayo Char goes mask off only to cry for his mama
>>23519263-Kamille is a unisex French name, usually spelled with a C-Also the "rape" was never a fact, that's just a fan interpretation. In plain terms her entire arc is "men don't take me seriously enough so I'll take the side of the even more manipulative man! (but nothing is my fault btw)"
>>23532044dude like half of what you get out of gundam is built from inductive supporting details, don't be intentionally dense.
>>23532050oh yeah? what's stopping anyone from just inductively arriving at wrong answers to deliberately stonewall your version of events?
>>23532060lack of supporting detail. did you just miss all the shit on literary analysis going through school?
>>23532090so where's the supporting detail for the "survive rape, become self-empowered" thing?
>>23532101linguistic clues in the original japanese voice track with the specific word choices when reccoa and emma have their last chat. her mobile suit gets literally gaped up the ass by yazan and she has a detachment resposne to it. there is clearly some kind of sexual or power dynamic element to reccoa's relationship with men in general. extrapolating that to survivorship is reasonable. don't be intentionally dense.
>>23532117is there like an actual dissertation written on this or are you gonna be all "just trust me bro" the entire way?reminder that you're dealing with people who have no understanding of this
>>23519263Shut the fuck up, bluesky.
>>23532173there's no end of people actually analyzing this on the internet. but the crux of it is around the word choice. from a shitty reddit post that was the first result:" 辱め【はずかしめ】(n) shame, disgrace, being rapedReccoa uses that euphemism in her dying words, at 18:04 after the end of the opening of episode 49:「エマ中尉わかってよ。男達は戦いばかりで女を道具に使うしか思いつかない…もしくは、女を辱めることしか知らないのよ…!」"Lt. Emma, understand me. Men are so involved in their fighting, they think of women as mere tools. Sometimes even... not knowing anything other than to disgrace them!"Emma is taken aback by what Reccoa just said, and she replies「辱められたって…レコア・ロンド…」: "You were... disgraced...? Reccoa Londe..."."
>>23532173>>23532205sorry, to be more specific, supposedly that was the politically correct/polite/euphemistic way to say someone was sexually assualted in Japan back in the day.
>>23519896>>23519921MDickie zeta would be fucking kino
