Holy shit, how do they not lose their patience with Chirico? I honestly kind of feel bad for them since they save his ass several times.
he's a good kid
>Wrong aspect ratio>Smudged to shit upscaleAbsolutely no hope.
>>23534456I just switched to Linux and started watching again today, I don't know why it looks like shit either :(
>>23534460>:(
>>23534448He's their friend
>>23535606this
>>23534448Chirico comes across rude, but is just traumatized and taciturn. He likes them, and they can see the good parts of him. They all have flaws, but get through things by sticking together
>>23534451>>23535730Yeah, he does care and they know it, even if it's only rarely shown or expressed. And likewise you might think the trio are just greedy scumbags but that facade also falls apart pretty fast whenever their friends are in danger.They're frens!
Watching Votoms. Currently in the episode 30s, and I've been enjoying the series so far.
>>23536437It's a good show, keep enjoying it or else.
>>23536437Have you enjoyed episode 3?
>>23536747No, I only watch even-numbered episodes
>>23535730>>23536430Tbf they did try to use him in the beginning, but I can't think of other times they tried to be malicious towards Chirico. It just kind of bothers me that Chirico is kind of thankless throughout the whole series when the gang pulled more than enough weight for him, but I'm probably just austically looking into it too much.
>>23537029Chirico is canonically autistic, you know. It's right there written in the series bible.
>>23537155huh?
was it implied that kokona got gangraped in the first arc before the outlaws let her go?
>>23537271No.
>>23537271Considering how much the series hammers into the viewer how human life is considered by most to be worthless, I'd say yes. Watching episode 2 where the guy is on the intercom telling the town to come identify bodies let me know that I was traveling down a dark road. It's almost like Fist of the North Star in space with how much disregard the average person gets, the 80's was a different time.
I did enjoy Mellowlink much more than I thought I would, so it's just the unrelated OVAs or movies left. Was Mellow an Abnormal Survivor? It feels insane to assume this, but they've outright name-dropped <10% and <1% survival rates for him multiple times. Also>tfw no bigger epilogue>>23537029They did start off like that because they're greedy space rats, yeah. I forget whether it was them or Chirico that bailed the other(s) out first, but they sort of got roped into it because Coconna was the conscience of the group. I think he eventually does verbally thank them, or had some sort of social development which was jarring enough for them to happily notice it. Despite being almost non-verbal, he does care about them and they've definitely picked up on that, at the very least.>>23537508>It's almost like Fist of the North Star in spaceThat's sort of how I recommended the show. It's not really comparable considering>nothing to really pass down or retain, Ken never had to deal with such a big conspiracy>they're both post-war but the galactic civilization's sort of faring much better>your friends aren't dropping like flies to such an extentBut at the same time, the desolate loneliness and all the shit that they go through, as well as the genuinely comforting cheer you feel from the few friends you always have, the sort of similar mood was felt throughout both shows. I think I'd generally be called insane if I compared the two shows, yet I still feel compelled to do so for some reason.
>>23537877>>23537508Layzner, another Ryosuke Takahashi Sunrise series, had some inspiration from Fist of the North Star and other stuff during the 80s.
>>23537877Maybe Mellowlink was oneIt's very obvious his ridiculous Home Alone-esque plans to beat Scopedogs on foot relied heavily on his opponents missing a whole lot of shots, but despite all the luck and contrivance, it was just so cool to see how it all played out anyway, definitely some of the most unique fights in any /m/ work
>>23534448Old dude wants Chirico to become his star pilot, Cockona wants the D, Vanilla thinks Chirico is a pretty cool dude.There's also another answer, but giving it would be a major spoiler.>>23534460>I don't know why it looks like shit either :(Because it was upscaled. I made a mistake of downloading a torrent like that from nyaa and had to delete it, absolutely unwatchable.
One thing I don't get about the plot is, when Chirico detaches the command module from the rest of the ship as he's escaping the battle next to the Wiseman space station, he leaves the gang in the cell, presumably to die. I expected him to leave some kind of way out for them, but I didn't see any signs of that. Did he just assume that they'll be fine on their own? I mean, his mission was to take down a malicious God, and he couldn't afford giving any hints that he is still clinging to his human morals, but it still was cold. At least when he shoots Fyana, he deliberately aims to disable her AT (or so she says, anyway).
>>23537271It's treated way too comically/lightly to match how the later show would have handled it, but yeah I thought that's what they were implying too when I first saw it.
Scopedog settei.
>>23538119>saw Chirico in the thumbnailI remember reading that Dougram was the only show he did that had zero "magic" weirdness (even though it was just advanced technology in Votoms as per Arthur C Clarke), so I take it that Layzner starts to get crazy-weird in that aspect as well.>>23538429Having recently read some criticism about 08th MS Team-onlyists or people that have it as their favourite, I really do think that people who loved 08th MS Team would love Mellowlink also. Yeah it's a bit insane that he's routinely going against one-man tanks but it's still very very fun to see.>>23539158I also don't get this and agree 100%.
>>23540588Official art of Layzner's protagonist, Eiji, shaking hands with Chirico.
>>23540595>now neither of us will be virgins
>>23537271You keep forcing this.
>>23538119Looks great out of context, but this episode was the beginning of the end for Layzner.
I've been watching through the series recently because I got tired of saving Scopedog pics without even seeing the show, watching them in release order. Just got through the first 3 OVAs (Last/Unknown Red Shoulder, Big Battle, Red Shoulder Document). Man, the last one is confusing. The rest is spoilers:So Chirico is genetically an Abnormal Survivor, after TV I assumed his luck was a result of direct Wiseman intervention through some kind of sufficiently advanced science, but I guess Wiseman chose Chircio because he was an AS? Or did Wiseman create Chirico, is the sequence with Palisen where he finds a babby on what looks like it could possibly be Wiseman station, and the babby gets spaced supposed to imply that babby was Chirico, an artificial human created by Wiseman to become his successor? Palisen is a part of Secret Society, so he, in theory, could've been on that station.So Chirico knew that he's an AS since as early as his service in Red Shoulders? I guess he could've lost that memory somehow (Wiseman Did It), but the 3 guys he meets again in the first OVA should've kept that memory, and yet they just don't mention it.Why was everybody on the parade freaking out when Chirico and the guys showed up? Palisen was understandable, he expected them to be dead. But the general public gasps like they saw something outrageous. Is it Chirico's hairstyle?Wish they shown Leeman's death. I guess they wanted to show the battle from Chirico's perspective, and he got bested by Leeman and passed out, but Leeman was such a fun character, I'd like to see his end.
>>23540768>paradeIt was just the top brass gasping, not the general public.
>>23540890Either way, they shouldn't have an idea what's the significance of Chirico appearing is.
>>23540893Bloodsuckers are cool but there's very little art of them.They performed poorly against Turbo Customs, but one thing I noticed is that they didn't have any additional weapons like missile pods or those little machinegun pods, only the default machineguns (actually closer to an autocannon). Could be explained outside of universe as a way to save animation budget, to draw less unique shapes, but in-universe you can say those were relatively recently developed ATs and they didn't finish the secondary weapons for them, which left Red Shoulders at a disadvantage, since in Roots they seem to rely heavily on secondary weapons in combat.
>>23540588Layzner was canceled before it got heavy on the sci-fi weirdness but they still tried to cram as much of it as they could into the last few episodes and the OVA. It was going to have a similar twist to Southern Cross.
>>23540692Zoomers don't know any subtlety.
>>23534448Also, there's a good high quality torrent of the main TV series on rutracker, 1440p without smearing, original audio and English subtitles (though it defaults to Russian subs for obvious reasons, you can just switch).
>regular HG Scopedog doesn't have the thrusters>neither does any reiteration or any p-bandai addonsMy Scopedog's back looks so empty, thrusters onegai>>23540893I do recall it felt like they were just disrespectfully and audaciously posing and smoking cigars instead of just saluting all regular, and then Pailsen gets freaked out by Chirico saying "even to (a) god... I will not obey-"as per >>18751800 and >>18761376>>23541290Haven't watched that either yet, but I can't wait!
>>23541682Layzner has strong animation quality going for it.
>>23534460>I don't know why it looks like shit either :(It looks like shit because it's the wrong aspect ration and smudged to shit. You probably grabbed a release from that faggot who goes full DNR on older shows and the aspect ratio is probably a shitty crop job to fake 16:9. Educate yourself.
>>23534548>>23539153>>23543176Now that you guys mention it, I swore the subtitles were blue with that weird font when I was last watching, was that the better rip?
>>23543176I feel like at this point that guy is trolling with just how badly he processes everything.
>>23543409Well, you can tell the quality of the rip by the quality of the image, not subs. The latter can be changed, unless they're hardcoded into image.
>>23543176No open matte?
>>23541682At least you have a Scopedog. I went to a model kit shop which had a Scopedog in display and asked one of the employees who owned that display if the shop had any Scopedogs. The answer he gave was: they didn't have any to buy.
>>23545359Just order one from Aliexpress?
>>23545359Wait whatI don't know where you can get the older ones, but surely Bandai keeps releasing and releasing them, and worst-case you could just get the tiny microscopic two-colour Choi-Plas if you felt absolutely miserable without one, right...?>>23545368I can't tell which listings are more reliable and genuine, but holy shit yeah there's quite a lot of ones for the regular Scopedog, possibly cheaper than retail. And some form of the p-bandai sets being sold as well.
>>23545382I've ordered Burglarydog from them and got what looks like a legit version, big box with Bandai logo, instruction, runners, all that crap. There's a lot of Gundam bootlegs there (which are barely worse than original sets), but I don't think there are Votoms bootlegs, because I basically ordered the cheapest set and got original stuff.
>>23545390I got a regular and booby Nobel because Bandai's refusing to reprint them, apart from them being made solely out of ABS plastic and also having incorrect/misleading instructions, it was fine. I've been consistently told that they will outright tell you if it's a legitimate product, and also tell you if it's a bootleg.It's just that if they were bootlegs I'd be happy for a different reason, because then they'd be dirt-cheap and I could army-build>pretty cheap for a Burg>but shipping makes it the same as retail
>>23545406I mean, I live in Russia. The shipping is cheaper since it can be done by train and I don't even think we have stores which sell Bandai stuff. I've never been really that interested in plamo, I just really like various Scopedogs designs and want some of that on my table. I just don't think humanoid mecha design gets better than this loveable round-headed roller-skating bomb.
>>23545413Ohh, well, I'm glad the shipping works out for you, Scopedogs are very fun to look at and swoosh around and I do hope you're able to get a few. The plastic feels a bit softer than regular gunpla, so I think it might be easier for you to get rid of ugly nub marks. Might have to paint or use a marker if you wanted a Red Shoulder (although generally things look better if you panel-line a bit) but other than that, the basic Scopedog's a solid kit and I think you'd enjoy it. The variations and p-bandai bits leave you wanting more, but aside from maybe a lariat, the humble Scopedog can probably do whatever you'd expect it to.I don't recall what assistant or animator suggested the roller-skating movement to be so dynamic (she was a skiier as I recall) but it is SO fun to see them rolling around. I can't recall if I've ever seen them in the snow though (I assume Russia has a lot of snow).
>>23545426The last winter was actually the least snowy, at least since the measurements started. A cold planet and ATs adapted to such environments would've been cool to see. In general, new Votoms content would've been cool to see, at least if it was animated well and didn't look like a video game cutscene.
>>23545463I was thinking that the little sled feet would have worked well for the snow as well.>new Votoms content>more flashbacks>or an animated version of the text-only continuation of the main story>side-stories like MellowlinkAs much as I love the franchise and more potential content, I think we're good as-is unless we get that last bit animated. I just want Chirico to rest and be well.
>>23545502Side-stories would be the best, in my opinion. Even if Chirico is the most important person in the universe, you can tell good stories about the struggles of less important people. Not everything has to be about killing God.
>>23545513I haven't watched Case Hunter(?) or Irvine yet, so I can't attest to their quality or worthwhileness, but nothing's been offensive so far other than maybe the show's narrative being continued, but I think that's kind of the point.Mellowlink was substantially smaller-scaled than the main story but was still fun, and I'm realizing that we haven't seen much from the Balarant side. Might be nice to see some ATs other than mainly Scopedogs, and see how they're doing on their side mid or post-war. And how civvies are doing as well, always good to see how the common people are doing, especially during or right after a war.Maybe you could have some AT pilot be pretty skilled and lucky enough that you wonder whether or not they're an abnormal survivor, and then have them die or have an ambiguous fate at the end, even though we sort of got that in Pailsen Files. Because I was starting to wonder whether Mellowlink was one as well, since they mentioned survival statistics a few times.
Watched episodes 41-42, the beginning of the final arc of the TV series. Neat to Ru Shako again after an entire arc's absence of him. Felt like Shako didn't have much screentime or lines in the second arc, so it's nice to see him be partners with Chirico for the final arc's starting episodes.
>>23545532I've been actually watching Shining Heresy now, I haven't seen Mellowlink yet (I'm trying to find a high quality torrent but they all seems dead), will watch the rest afterwards. I know Mellowlink is well received and I've seen some fights on youtube, very creative stuff. Yeah, it kinda stretches the suppression of disbelief when Mellowlink dances among bullets, but I can forgive that. Maybe he's halfway between AS and a regular human.>>23545542Shako is a bro, he's featured prominently in Big Battle OVA and honestly that's my favorite part of that OVA, him and Chirico working together. I love how he customizes a Scopedog to look like his favorite Berserga for the titular Big Battle.
>>23545542*Neat to see
>>23545547Heresy is... interesting. I still don't know whether I love or hate it.>I haven't seen Mellowlink yet (I'm trying to find a high quality torrent but they all seems dead)>they stopped subtitling the episode previews>the sub group that's doing it decently hasn't gotten to the last batch of episodes>the only subs I could find was a youtube playlist a friend sent me and they're in KoreanIn case it helps: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3mEOgz4PGwUFOFWtIqvbzGvEgJ5TjX8yI shouldn't have said anything about Mellowlink though, sorry!>>23545542Ru Shako's a complete bro, you're in for a fucking insane ride for this final arc
