There need to be more black females in mecha
>>23542461>Geass tard doesn't know shitWhy am I never surprised
>>23542461Ihave to agree
>>23542461Does Amida Arca count, or is she more Latina-adjacent?
>>23542461is she black? Or just Indian. What's her backstory? Talk about wanting to blow her back out. Also CG sucks & /m/ has plenty of black females, retard newfag.>>23542471This. And before some right wing tard claims jun's not black (as i've witness before) fuck off and kill yourself.
>>23543065She got killed by Suzaku in the main series.
>>23542471I'm amused that despite being black she is still lighter than Tetsuya. And then their baby is pale as fuck. Anime genetics is wack.
>>23543148>And then their baby is pale as fuckTHY FUCKED!? in what timeline?
>>23543183Infinity. Like a decade ago. The fuck have you been.
Check out Victory Gundam and Turn A.
>>23543227marbet is based for being badass and the tallest character (including compared to men) in victory's cast but i just can't get horny for women under 30
>>23542461She's Indian. Just like Rakshata.>>23543148>>23543183>>23543065>jun's not blackWell first of all...she's only half black. Anx she mostly takes after her Japanese mother. >Macross.The only legit Black female character posted in the thread>>23543227>>23543241>MarbetSHE'S ITALIAN.
>>23543305>She's IndianShes Britannian, so no.
>>23542461>>23543305>>23543306You both are wrong. Dorothea Ernst is European. Specifically Greece. Her name is literally Greek in origin.At least try to do some research next time.
>>23543320She could be a black woman from greece. Pretty sure native greeks aren't that dark.
>>23543332She could also be a space alien wearing human skin. But the reality is that she's Greek, and many Greeks get very tanned if they spend a lot of time outside.
>>23543337Do you just think there are no black people in greece or something?
>>23543346In the fantasy world of Code Geass? Probably not. Brittania had strict immigration control, and tend to use a harsh caste system on anyone who isn't part of the Empire.
>>23543366Being that Britannia is largely based out of north america, I find it entirely believable that blacks aren't uncommon in it's territories. Given that history starts to diverge notably around the american revolutionary war it's not unreasonable to believe that the future britanian empire would have a fair portion of people who descended from slaves, as those were already a thing prior.
>>23543346Code Geass is not real life. Legal immigration is tightly controlled in the world of Code Geass. >>23543374If the American civil war never happened in Code Geass, then Blacks would remain slaves. Not high ranking members of Brittanian society. In all likelihood, they would be suppressed even harder. Perhaps even forced into designated "Black areas" and forced to do menial work. Dorothea Ernst is clearly a Royalist and supports the Brittanian Royal family. So her family background is most likely of noble heritage. Perhaps one of the noble European families with Greek descent like other anon said. She's definitely not a black slave from America. Also, Dorothea wouldn't be able to ascend the military ranks either if she wasn't some level nobility and didn't had some sort of political backing. The nobles of Britannia would never accept it.
>>23543188Anon i....
>>23543305>she's only half blackThat's still black.
>>23543389>noblemen are the ones most likely to own slave plantations>plantation owners are notorious for boning their slaves and knocking them upPure blooded britannian noble all right. Checks out.
>>23543504>That's still black.No that's called "mixed" race. At least by 2025 standards.
>>23542461Pretty sure she's Greek or some sort of Southern European Mediterranean.
>>23543532>At least by 2025 standards.Hey, guess what she's not from.
>>23543305>marbet is italianCitation needed, also black people can't live in Italy? Italy's just across the sea from Tunisia and Libya.
>>23543305>SHE'S ITALIAN.... ah yes, Marbet Fingerhat, typical italian name.Let me Charpost for a second so I can temporarily forget your retardation.
>Anyone that is tan or brown is a black person4chan /m/ logic at its finest.
>>23543389The end of slavery in Britain can be argued to have begun as early as 1772, predating the American Revolution. Turboracism will still thrive, but who needs chattel slavery when you can just force any imperial subjects to do the back breaking labor regardless of skin tone?
>>23543683Tomino has said that Japanese sponsors directly objected to having a blacks main cast member. No blacks allowed. The most Tomino was allowed to do was to create a brown person with European, middle Eastern, or Indian facial features. But absolutely no blacks. Japanese sponsors did not want black people or allow it. So nope. Sorry. Marbet isn't black. She's amniguously brown. Accept it and move on. Japan has spoken.
>>23543690>Marbet Fingerhat>ItalianActually Fingerhat is a German last name. It means someone who gracefully uses a thimble.
>>23543241>marbet is based for being badassWhen? She acts like a hypocrite for most of the show and does dumb shit like use Odelo and Tomache as shields in battle even though she's supposed to be looking after and teaching them.
>>23543721I thought it was supposed to be English, like Finger Hat. Would make a lot more sense than being anything else
>>23543714There's black people everywhere in Turn A. Hell, Ryu has ethnic features in Mobile Suit Gundam.
>>23543714Nta but you sound very dishonest, source is needed if he actually directly stated such a quote
>>23543937Ryu always struck me as mexican, or at least Hispanic.
>>23543937>Ryu has ethnic features in Mobile Suit Gundam.Ryu JOSE is Mexican/Spanish/Latin. Tomino in interviews said he wasn't allowed to have black people.
>>23544178Agreed but it flies in the face of what this guy >>23543714 is saying since he has very obvious ethnic features>>23544207Citation needed, again it didn't seem like an issue in Turn A
>>23542507That blackness killed Roy. Just kept re-deep frying that pineapple salad until it became so delicious that he prioritized eating more of it over seeing a doctor about the gallon of blood he was losing every minute
>>23544223>didn't seem like an issue in Turn AAll those Turn A Characters are drawn with European facial features and colored ambiguously brown. It's left vague enough by design to where they could be any number of tanned ethnicities like Spanish, Southern Italian, Mediterranean, etc.If you want Black anime characters, then you shouldn't be look at pre-2000s anime. Hell, you shouldn't be looking at Japanese anime at all. Look to Western countries and their cartoons with people of color. Don't rely on another foreign country to fulfill you inner desire.
>>23543532>No that's called "mixed" race.Yeah, i don't understand why you insist on contradicting her origin. She's black. She's Japanese. She's mixed. Happy now. This is stupid.>At least by 2025 standards.Mixed race is not a new concept, neither is it a "2025 standard". Not sure where you're coming from on that.
>>23543698Do you know how to read?
>>23543714Anon. >The most Tomino was allowed to do was to create a brown person with European, middle Eastern, or Indian facial features.That's not how race functions. Africans to europeans to asia contain similar phenotypes that don't fit into any typical racial stereo typing done by outdated racist pseudoscience. There are plenty of black people with facial features that could be considered "european" or "asian" and that includes small lips. Also add some context next time.
>>23544207>Ryu JOSE is Mexican/Spanish/Latin. Tomino in interviews said he wasn't allowed to have black people.>>23544223>>23544253Context: More less true in pec related.
>>23544229>f you want Black anime characters, then you shouldn't be look at pre-2000s animeYou are being very disingenuous & there's a clear bias behind your posting too.
>>23544229>If you want Black anime characters, then you shouldn't be look at pre-2000s anime. Hell, you shouldn't be looking at Japanese anime at all. Look to Western countries and their cartoons with people of color. Don't rely on another foreign country to fulfill you inner desire.Just quit while your ahead.
>>23544229>If you want Black anime characters, then you shouldn't be look at pre-2000s anime. Hell, you shouldn't be looking at Japanese anime at all. Look to Western countries and their cartoons with people of color. Don't rely on another foreign country to fulfill you inner desire.Wrong image. My bad. Here. Quote.
>>23544178He's his Hispanic. Always has been.
>>23543937>There's black people everywhere in Turn A.i wouldn't go that far but definitely "black" adjacent somewhat.
>>23543937ZZ had more obvious blacks than anything in turn a.
>>23544262Cowboy Bebop was considered a failure in Japan. Tomino was under much more pressure from the sponsors to obey their wishes.The sponsors didn't want Blacks in Gundam. This is well documented. They wanted Japanese kids to self insert into the anime and buy the Gundam toys. That's much easier with someone who looks like them. Not a black guy.That's simply the truth. Sponsors didn't want Blacks in Gundam. Rage all you want.
>>23544268IIRC She's Muslim. Some sort of Middle Eastern ethnicity.
>>23544237Your information is outdated. There's no 1 drop rule anymore. Governments and companies now call it mixed race. You are given the option on forms to select mixed. Some forms ask how many races you identify with and give you the option to bubble in how many ethnicities you are apart of.Someone can be 25% French, 25% Korean, 25% Mexican, and 25% Native American Indian. We've moved beyond just saying "he looks Indian so just mark him as Indian". So get with the times.
>>23544296>Governments and companies now call it mixed race>nowThe concept of mixed race isn't anything new & its sure as hell isn't a "2025 standard". That's my argument.
>>23544286>MuslimMuslim doesn't automatically equate to being ethically arab.
>>23544301The exception to the rule doesn't disprove the rule.
>>23544285Don't know why you dodged that one >>23544264>then you shouldn't be look at pre-2000s anime.A good number of older pre 2000's had black characters. That's my point. >Cowboy Bebop was considered a failure in Japan. Tomino was under much more pressure from the sponsors to obey their wishes.The sponsors didn't want Blacks in Gundam. This is well documented. They wanted Japanese kids to self insert into the anime and buy the Gundam toys. That's much easier with someone who looks like them. Not a black guy.That's simply the truth. Sponsors didn't want Blacks in Gundam.i didn't disagree especially since i just fucking posted tomino's interview quoting what you didn't even have to explain in spacing. My issue is your previous post wording being dishonest because pre 2000's anime still had a good number of so called black characters.
>>23544303That's not a rule neither an exception. Black muslims has been a thing in africa for millennia longer than christianity historically. That's not an exception. Blacks in africa have a huge history with islam.
>>23543937>>23544178I only remember Ryu being black in that FMV game with butt chin Char.
>>23543305and? italians aren't white
Most of you need to realize that many Japanense artists didn't want to add blacks to anime out of some sense of "racial equality" or representation. They wanted to add Blacks to anime because they wanted to draw and get practice with different paint colors. Blacks were simply another tool for drawing practice. Several Japanese artists have talked about this. Although I guess it's growing increasingly taboo to talk about this since social media makes Westerners so racially sensitive and whiny.
>>23542471Strangely though, she wasn't black in the Great manga. I think Go Nagai ended up liking it though considering other incarnation portray her as black ever since. The only exception being Violence Jack.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWCYtwDA05E
>Dark skin marbet>>SHE'S ITALIAN.What did he mean this? Its obvious she's meant to be black or Indian. Tomino's interview proves that. Why are some of these fags making this needlessly complicated? its like i'm talking to a woman.
>>23544315Why are you so obsessed with Blacks in Japanese anime? You are trying to claim characters that are so incredibly vague in their ethnicity that's it's honestly pathetic to read. What's next Amuro is black because he's 2% African? Maybe Char is black too because his great-great-great grandmother was 10% black. I can't wait to hear your next arguments about Blacks. Yes please tell us more.
>>23544323>Most of you need to realize that many Japanense artists didn't want to add blacks to anime out of some sense of "racial equality" or representation.Stop lumping ALL Japanense artists into one basket faggot. SOME of these artists say its literally due to representation. From tomino, watanabe to kishimoto.
>>23544330>Tomino's interview proves that.Lmao. Tomino said he was banned from using blacks by the sponsors. He could only get away with using brown people in his animes, and told the sponsors they weren't black. Maybe Tomino was trolling but canonically they aren't black.
>>23544332Its honestly exhausting to discuss this topic with that anon. He's incredibly disingenuous.>Amuro is Canadian>thErE aRE bLAcK cAnadiAns!>Lalah is Indian>ThErE aRe SoMe BlAcK iNdIaNs!He just says that for every response.Instead of having an honest discussion on what ethnicity most likely the anime evidence points to, he just wants them to black. Then he tries to find loopholes to justify his argument.>everything is black!Thats why I don't participate much in these types of threads.Some anons are sensitive or trolling.They don't want honest answers.
>>23544337Tomino's trolling more often than not, though in this case the joke was probably on the sponsors.
>>23544332Not only are you goal posting but making ridiculously over the top assumptions with a straw man. Stay on topic.
>>23544339>>23544339>>Amuro is Canadian>>thErE aRE bLAcK cAnadiAns!>>Lalah is Indian>>ThErE aRe SoMe BlAcK iNdIaNs!That wasn't me & you've been very disingenuous the entire time i've argued with you. >Instead of having an honest discussion on what ethnicity most likely the anime evidence points to, he just wants them to black.>Then he tries to find loopholes to justify his argument.The irony. Its funny how you keep changing the subject, jumping the gun, goal posting to straw manning. You are the one who's upset. I'm going by what tomino & watanabe has said.
>>23544339WHYDOYOUHAVETOWRITELIKETHIS?!
>>23544337So you're take issue that someone says she's meant to be black but not Indian? Because marbet isn't ITALIAN.
>>Amuro is Canadian>>thErE aRE bLAcK cAnadiAns!>>Lalah is Indian>>ThErE aRe SoMe BlAcK Indians!islam is a religion not a race. And i've never implied any of that shit in greentext. Holy fucking lol. You read some other anon or tomino say a character is ether potentially black, indian or whatever & you get butthurt trying hard to explain it away. And you claim i'm finding loopholes to justify my argument? That's been you this whole time. Unlike you i've used factual information to back most of my points. What have you provided other than "well they can't be black because". Who gives a shit. Jun is mixed, ryu is hispanic, the desert people in zz are african & who knows what the fuck marbet is.
>>23544253>There are plenty of black people with facial features that could be considered "european"Only and only if they're East African or have mixed ancestry
Marbets eyes are Grey (or blue?), she definitely is not african (or not fully african)
We love brown girls here
>>23544285>Cowboy Bebop was considered a failure in Japan.>t.retarded toonamifag
>>23546829Pretty sure she's like Mediterranean or something.
>>23546831Uh...no it didn't. The original broadcast was canceled. It only aired 12 episodes before being replaced. It was also a commercial failure. The sponsors were actually very disappointed in it's merchandise sales. Cowboy Bebop didn't sell much merch in Japan either.
>>23546912Yeah and I think they moved Cowboy Bebop to satellite channels to finish it's run because the original run on TV did so bad in the TV ratings. Apparently the the Western themes (Film Noir, Western, guns , etc) used in the show didn't resonate with Japanese audiences. So Sunrise dismissed the show as a failure and moved on to other things.The only reason we got a Cowboy Bebop movie was because it was crazy popular in the West. Even before it aired on Adult Swim, Western fans were buying up and importing Cowboy Bebop VHS tapes, Laser discs, and DVDs. Sunrise became awate of Cowboy Bebop's impressive grey market sales. Even without subtitles, fans were buying the Japanese releases and subbing it themselves. So Sunrise bet on the idea that Vowboy Bebop would do well in the West. When Sunrise made the Bebop movie, it didn't do well in theaters in Japan. But it did VERY well (by 2000s standards) in Western Theaters. So you can thank America for saving Cowboy Bebop because Japan rejected it.
>>23546929Same thing happened with Big O anime. Failed in Japan. Massive success in the West. Japan just has shit taste.
>>23545090Her genetic mother is white
>Black British>Submitted to Japanese cockWhat did they mean by this?
>>23544337Why is Tomino such a massive faggot?
>>23546846Prove me wrong
>>23546984Karma bit him in the ass too. Tomino paid for his daughter's private college education in Europe on the condition she only marry a Japanese man when she decides to get married. She agreed. But when college was done, the daughter came home with a White European boyfriend (I think he was German?).Apparently Tomino was pissed because he wanted his daughters to carry on the Japanese culture with a pure Japanese family. It led to HUGE falling out with his eldest daughter. They made up later on life...but lmao. So ironic. Tomino tries to secretly push blacks, Browns, and other races in his anime for diversity and showing the audience about other cultures. But Tomino got pissed when his daughter brought home a non-Japanese boyfriend. The universe certainly has a sense of humor and trolled Tomino.
>>23546987>Prove me wrongProve yourself right. You made the claim that Sub-Sarahan African blacks can look European. Show us your proof.
>>23546989To be fair, it would be a shock to anyone, judging how Tomino claimed the guy is not that fluent in Japanese and he doesn't seem to be an actual immigrant either. Imagine unable to communicate with your son in law, your grandchildren will live in Germany and doesn't inherit any of the properties you leave behind. He might have soften to his daughter's new family, but i bet deep down, he is still cursing it.
>>23547014Tomino loves trolling, but hates when he gets trolled.
>>23546970Except this is what she looked like in the prolog.
>>23547014I still don't get the whole " Tomino is either ambigious or conservative " even came from. Everything about his works and sensibilities have liberal qualities to them. Amuro is a heroic half Japanese, half Canadian man, war is le bad, the villain's entire schtick is to destroy the earth's environment.
>>23547019>Ginger and fair skinnedAnime niggress fuckers have such a low standard.
>you'll never have a Marbets wifeWhy live?
>>23547021What? I'm just correcting the idea that Suletta mom was white.And while on the topic of brown chicks from Kimura.
>>23547025Gingers are white though. Soulless whites, but white all the same.
>>23547026>Tan and Red hair=gingerWhatever you say, anon.
>>23547028I'm talking about the mother, not the half black daughter.
>>23547033Suletta's dad isn't black either. His name is Arabic.
>>23547179As far as I'm concerned all anime brown dudes are black and all anime brown chicks are delicious mystery meat.
>>23547033>>23547183The mom is also mystery meat and not white.
>>23547195>Ginger>Blue eyes>Gets progressively whiter when she gets older>"Prospera Mercury">She is a niggress, bros, i swear!
>>23547183Judging from how Cynthia in G Savior looks in the novel, let's assume all of them are niggress until proven otherwise.
>>235472011: since when has anyone with a tan is considered ginge? 2: blue eyes is irreverent in anime characters and 3 her real name is Elnora Samaya, you secondary. I'm not even going to bring up being whiter since she obviously went though great lengths to hide her identity to the point she might have changed her skin color.Enjoy this sloppa while you're at it.
are browns considered black?
>>23547672Not really. No one with a brain would think Lalah is black.
>>23547714I mean, If Lalah doesnt count then most of the girls people have posted until now do either
>>23547783It doesn't matter because unless pointed out or has obvious traits, then this place will argue on what is considered Black or brown from [insert race/nationality here].And it's not just limited to /m/, without looking it up, tell me what race Dudley from Street Fighter is.And guess how many will get it wrong by saying he's Indiana.
