im getting in to the series and want to know what everyone here thinks
That's dumb. Just watch it if you're interested.
>>23542885i am already watching it and i think its good. i just want to know what others on the board think of it
>>23542840>>23542889we won't tell you.
>>23542889Just watch it and give us your good/shit takes so we can agree disagree before someone posts the best Basara song and we all stop fighting.I enjoy Macross, hope you enjoy it too
Delta sucks. 7 is best.
>>23542889If you want someone to give you theirs you should give them yours first. Because that's how conversation works.
I recently watched macross plusis isamu supposed to be an unsympathetic piece of shit or is there some cultural context that I'm missing that makes it okay to commit terrorism and have a dogfight in a city with massive collateral damage
>>23543728Outside of Isamu clearly being a bit of a douche, they also clearly didn't intend to follow up on what happened in the aftermath.Yeah he had a dogfight in the middle of the city with lots of collateral damage but he also saved the day from the AI and we never hear from him afterwards other than his cameo in Macross F movie 2 so it's probably not worth thinking about.Very much the OVA/Movie cared more about the characters than the setting.
>>23543728>>23543774I forgot if the OVA implies everyone eventually got mind controlled into going to the concert but IIRC the manga adaptation made it seem like the city was abandoned.
Hate it because I hate idol shit and that's what the franchise basically devolved into. I liked SDF and Plus and hated everything else I saw. Didn't see Zero or Delta.
>>23543826>devolved intoRetard.
>>23543833Nah you are
>>23543826If you don't like the idol stuff zero is worth a watch. It's the most grounded entry in the franchise, and has much more of a military focus than other entries.
>>235438267 should be your favorite then because it was about a rock band and not idols
>>23543897>It's the most grounded entry in the franchiseThe one with the floating rocks?
>>23543826>devolvedDude, this shit is Patient Zero for Idolru anime
>>23543989He doesn't want the idols to be on the battlefield or do aura stuff.
>>23543704It's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS4S88JvQ0Q by the way. If you disagree, I will probably respect your opinion.
>>23544073Yeah he's in it but I attribute that much more to Emilia. >shows up, sings just 2 songs>both are top 5 Macross songs, Heart & Soul taking the #1 spot>leavesWhat a beast
>>23544092Yeah, I remembered him being way more prominent before relistening to it (after I made the post, of course). Oh well.
https://youtu.be/8W8PSvxO2Mk?si=afqkYfQLt1jQAbZyhttps://youtu.be/SM5quxrQ_4I?si=5BUdHPDWpwq0kCKWhttps://youtu.be/b7RV7e5CaK0?si=eKrncurOn3fz1JtfCan a Macross thread really not survive with Sheryl on the cover?
>>23542885>>23542903>>23543704>>23543833I swear this is all the one person, the same numb nuts that spergs out any time someone makes one of these threads.OP, Macross is fantastic, SDF and DYRL are classics, 7 is polarising here, but super popular in Japan, personally I love 7.Frontier is pretty mediocre, but the movies make up for it, Delta just sucks, I can't comment on the movies personally.
Just know that SDF isn't canon despite being the best one.
I rewatched SDF and DYRL recently and I got the same feeling I get when rewatching earlier Gundam where it almost really doesn't seem like it's the same franchise anymore. Oh sometimes Max will show up and there's references and lore and all that. But just in a lot of way the series are presented the insane level of tech advancements and even the art styles. I know this kind of thing is always gonna be like this in longer running shows. You can't have a future set on 1980s tech and the art teams come and go but there's a whole different air to things
>>23547324>>23542840I saw dryl for the first time a few weeks ago man and it was fucking gorgeous. Character designs, mechanical designs, setting, music and story. I can see why people love the series I never really got into it. Cel shaded traditionally drawn anime is a lost art. Theres something that feels more timeless about DRYL but maybe to a younger or older generation it's not. The only other macross I saw was the delta movie and I actually still really liked the mechanical and character designs but I dont like cgi and the 80s and 90s was something else I'll always love more. Nostalgia? Maybe.
>>23547324>>23547358Yeah, it really feels like the series is in a constant state of self-fellation. Most times whenever you see a new VF, it's another new number some ways down the line, with less focus on the technicals. Meanwhile, the series went full focus on music at or around Macross 7, and pushed harder and harder down that line of music being the defining change in the world, as much as it pretends otherwise.Not to say 7 or the future parts of the series are bad for their inclusion of music, but it feels more like they try and sell characters more than the world of Macross. We get little in the way of knowing what happens afterwards of events, because they are more focused on telling their characters stories than develop the world much. Which doesn't help as the series' average episode count is getting smaller over time. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Macross series becomes a 2-cour series.All that and the expectations the series has of music, it feels like it pigeon holes itself into archetypes, when it could be so much more.
Something that kind of bugs me is the way so many aliens are handled. It hasn't been that long since mankind left earth back at the end of SDF and Mankind is pretty casually integrated into the greater cosmos. The Zentraedi were right there alongside us the whole voyage so they're fine but then you get any other race the creators can think of and they're treated like they've been there the whole time. Now I admit I could be off on how time works for this kind of thing maybe 70 years is enough to get a whole galactic federation going. But I feel like it kind of removes some of the romanticism out of it. I guess I'm just saying I'd like to see more first contact situations.
>>23547358>Cel shaded traditionally drawn anime is a lost art.It isn't. People just don't want anime to look like that anymore.
>>23542840Macross historically operated on c. 5 year release intervals, with every new release trying to be unique.The original is a classic: balancing well a story of both grand sci fi battles and irresponsible young love. If you like 80s anime this is where you should start, though you'll have to put up with some occasional slow episodes and variable animation quality.DYRL is more of a companion piece to the original TV series. Retelling key scenes with more directorial flair and much better animation. It is without a doubt one of the most gorgeous anime films ever made, and deserves to be watched for that reason. The story however is slightly rushed and disjointed if you have not seen the TV series.Macross 2 is a stand alone sequel OVA that went in a new direction and was then abandoned, relegated to non canon. Ive never watched it, there are people who like it, but I wouldn't get in here.Macross Plus is one of the main gateways you might look at. It's a stupendously well told, moody adult romance about regret, lost time, with a healthy dose of Top Gun references as well. If you like Mamoru Oshii or Christopher Nolan movies, you can jump in here.Macross 7 is a 90s TV anime about a hippie who who wants the stodgy, corrupt adults to "listen to his song!". You're either going to love or hate the anime on the basis of that premise, but if you like it there's some strong character writing in there.I'm going to skim over Macross Zero because I dont remember it well. It's a prequel to the original, told fine but nothing memorable.Macross Frontier was a very big multi media franchise for a while. If you want a combo of modern j pop and action storytelling this is the show for you. Plot and character writing are all what I'd call "solid" with a few missteps that keep it from true greatness. It has a anime movie adaptation with an alternate ending, but I'd still recommend the show first.
>>23547552Finally, there's the most recent show Macross Delta, which is kind of "eh". I'm not going to claim it's total dog shit like some might, but there's a lot of details that make you scratch your head at what the writers were thinking. The main characters solves his character arc in the first episode, the secondary love interest is more like a designated loser etc. It featured a lot, lot more emphasis on the idols then usual, and performed poorly in ratings but was saved by music sales. It's been nearly a decade since the show came out, with no sign of a new Macross show on the horizon.
>>23547571>no sign of a new Macross show on the horizonWe literally have one in development right now, with auditions for the lead heroine already done I think, the lead song sung by Minori Suzuki (voice of Freyja, main heroine of Delta), we know it's being animated by Sunrise, with a prospective release date of 2026
>>23547495One of my gripes with Delta. We have the Zentraedi basically mixed in with humanity by Macross Plus, the Protodeviln of 7 never integrated and left the universe but still had the history of their build up in the protoculture ruins. Zentraedi became basic beings you'd see in Frontier with the Zentraedi mall, many macronized Zentraedi either living simple day to day or still respecting their warrior culture and using their tech (not to mention the countless half-breeds). Hell, we even see Zentraedi war remnants try and reignite the war.Then Delta comes in with an expansive galaxy of species, that are all in NUNS, all understand the same language, all pilot the same type of mechs. There's minimal differentiating them outside of planet and species differences which amount to different forms of humanity. Doesn't help the only major culture we explore is Ragna, their traditions, ceremonies, etc. It's a nice attempt, but not successful enough and feels like it skips past the hard parts of integration to make the galaxy vast.
>>23547571The 2nd Delta movie came out in 2021 it hasn't been as long as you're making it out that there's been nothing.
