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So what did he actually do wrong?
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>>23560793
Mostly? Dress like a villain without being one.
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>>23560793
Nothing, he put down a bunch of crazy assholes and brought back democracy and stability.
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>>23560793
Warcrimes, warcrimes, enabling child sexual abuse, more warcrimes and being irredeemably evil. It’s unreal that you sickos actually stand up for him
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>>23560830
Name one crime.
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>>23560856
Ignoring surrenders, using banned weapons, media manipulation, killing civilians, ENABLING PEDOPHELIA AND SA. How are you defending this?????
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The worst crime of all, he was really boring.
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>>23560861
>surrenders
Ignoring the surrender of terrorists isn't a crime. They aren't a nation who are part of any sort of treaty.
>banned weapons
Not anymore they aren't.
>media manipulation
Not a crime.
>killing civilians
Terrorists.
>enabling
Legal in gallarhorn territory.
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>>23560793
Wear his coat like he's a One Piece naval officer.

>>23560830
Tekkadan arguably does all of this. The only difference being they're poor human debris instead of the entrenched hierarchy that was in power for centuries.

>irredeemably evil
Not an argument.
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>>23560793
poor choice of facial hair
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>>23560793
Keeping Iok alive for too long. Hashmal's return would have been a planetary disaster if it wasn't for Tekkadan.
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>>23560793
More like what did he even do? He kinda just sat around for most of the series and let McGillis and Tekkadan implode from their own dumb actions. Mainly McG's dumb actions, really.
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>>23560961
Goatees are based.
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>>23560793
Let Iok live as long as he did.
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>>23560972
Iok being retarded was one of the high points of the series.
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>>23560793

He's been one of the least bad antagonists in Gundam history.

He did some shady things, in a universe where doing shady things is the normal. Trying to put our rules onto a different universe that has evolved in different ways is basically pointless.

In the end, he was a current Government supporter who put down a rebellion by one of their aristocrats who thought his fancy scheme to take over control of the Government would work... Who also brought in a mercenary group to back him up. Tekkadan was dumb for following Macgillis... But everything had been going so right for them for so long, they got cocky as hell and thought that they could change the world after the shit they already had pulled off.

Was using the outlawed Danslief like he did shady? Yes. Was he somewhat justified in using it? I would say yes. Barbatos and Gusion were basically just as bad as the threat of a mobile armor in their eyes. Nuking them from orbit was the only way to make sure to finish the job.

Yes, while Iok was under him, bad shit happened... But he also slapped that bitch down and stopped him from backing up the traitor to Teiwaz, which allowed Tekkadan an easy win.
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>>23561087
>Tekkadan was dumb
I mean, they were essentially just a bunch of illiterate, uneducated kids whose only skills were maneuvering glorified heavy machinery. It's cool that they aspired to bigger things, but you do still need to have some semblance of understanding of politics etc to do what they aim to achieve. And the closest to an advisor they have is fucking Kudelia.
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>>23561110
It was all downhill after biscuit died, the one dude who had any semblance of a brain.
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>>23561119
The problem is that even when the fat kiddo was alive, even when he voiced concerns over things, in the end, the decision still goes down to Orga telling Mika to wreck shit. It would have made the narratives hit harder if we see the gang listening to Biscuit telling them to quit being so reckless gorilla brains, and that lead to them getting some small wins etc and what not.
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>>23561119
The Dog eat dog world caused Orga to develop Schizophrenia and Paranoia
All of his talk of "those who died will be meaningless" and "keep moving forward" was all of that.
Its both Biscuit and Naze death along with Mika condition is what force him to speedrun everything and take the MUH BAEL offer



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