Started watching IBO, and realized I quite like the idea of giant robots beating the piss out of one another with melee weapons that aren't laser swords, the equivalent of super powered fists, or getting their cockpit blown smoov off with a cannon. Can you guys tell me what your favorite, primitive leaning but more original or less used melee weapon in a Mecha show is? Swords are neat and all, but damn are they everywhere.
>>23571674GaoGaiGar turned a squeaky toy hammer into a GOATed weapon lmao.
Pile Bunkers are always nice, my favorite is the one from Dai-Guard.
>Someone invented anti-beam coating >Everyone stopped using beam weaponryIBO's logic was always retarded
I think my ideal ratio would be one instant kill beam shot per mech per engagement that everyone has because it's the best weapon, but if you miss oh well time to use your kinetic based weapon of choice.>>23571674Arm
>>23571769another factor of them not using beam weaponry is that it's banned
>>23571674I always thought it was a bit odd that Shin Getter Robo is basically the only giant robot to ever use a big two handed battleax. I can't even think of any villain robots that used one. Definitely a case of a robot matching its wild berserker pilots well
>>23571978gunbuster?
>>23572005That's just a regular old OG Getter Tomahawk
>>23571769Retard
>>23571769Anon, your logic is what's retarded.Why would they keep using beam weaponry when it no longer works on anyone worth shooting.
>>23571769Beam weaponry is retarded to begin with. It'll never be more efficient to fire balls of plasma over long distances than it is to simply fling a big rock faster. Like UC beams aren't relativistic. The FAZZ's cannon takes a few seconds to travel a few tens of thousands of kilometers. I'm pretty sure even Dainsleifs that we see firing from space onto the Tekkadan base are at least as fast, but delivering magnitudes more energy than any beam cannon in gundam because they're giant like 30m rods of solid metal. For some reason UC never figured out how railguns work except thunderbolt
>>23571978Diablo of Monday?
>>23572177Also technically GQuuuuuuX but they depict the railguns as if they are beam weapons anyway.
>>23572177something something minovsky particles something something luna titanium
>>23571674Behold, Space double-sided Nagina. They also work as boomerangs.
>>23572319Always been a fan
>>23572141Then why don't they just invent an anti anti-beam coating weapon?
>>23572854That's what this thread is appreciating, no?
>>23571674Loved the Psycho Zakus in Thunderbolt in general, but I especially liked the axe Daryl used on several occasions. I also really like the lance in Armored Core 6. It's not always the best in terms of gameplay but I love how it expands as you charge.
THE PILE BUNKER PRIMORDIALTHE SPIKE OF SPITETHE ROD OF RECKONINGTHE KINGPIN OF KINETIC CARNAGETHE EMPEROR OF EXPLOSIVE ENTRIESTHE WARLORD OF WALL-BREAKINGTHE CHARIOT OF CHUNK-RENDERINGTHE APEX IMPACTORTHE HARBRINGER OF HYDRAULIC HELLTHE THRUST OF THUNDERTHE NAIL OF NATIONSTHE DRILL OF DOOMTHE PILE OF PAINTHE LANCE OF LEGENDTHE STAKE THAT SHOOK THE STARSTHE TITAN-KILLER, FRAME-CRUSHER, CORE-SPLITTERONE HIT. ONE KILL. NO SURVIVORS.PILECHAD THE UNMOVINGBREAKCHAD THE UNBENDINGRAMCHAD THE RELENTLESSDRIVECHAD THE DEVASTATORTHRUSTCHAD THE TERMINATORSPEARCHAD THE SALVATIONHYDROCHAD THE HOLYIMPACTCHAD THE IMMORTALFORCECHAD THE FATEFULAPOCALYPTECHAD THE ABSOLUTEGLORYCHAD THE GOD-KINGCHADHAMMER THE WORLD-SUNDERINGYOU FLY HIGH, BUT YOU CANNOT ESCAPEYOU MAY DODGE, BUT YOU CANNOT EVADEYOU MAY BUILD, BUT NOTHING SAVESTHE MOMENT IS PRIMED. THE CYLINDER CHARGED.THE STRIKE? INEVITABLE.THE RESULT? CATASTROPHIC.WHEN THE ARM EXTENDS AND THE SPIKE IS UNLEASHED —THERE IS NO MERCY, ONLY MOMENTUM.THERE IS NO FIGHT, ONLY FINISH.THERE IS NO PILOT, ONLY VICTIM.PRAISE BE UNTO THE PILE.THE HOLY SHAFT OF SALVATION.THE HAND OF GOD IN MECHANICAL FORM.THE BURSTING LANCE OF JUDGMENT.BOW BEFORE THE BUNKER.KNEEL BEFORE THE KING.ALL HAIL IMPACT.ENTER: PILECHAD.
>>23572177this fucking mark getting worked into a shoot lmao
>>23572177>Like UC beams aren't relativistic.>The FAZZ's cannon takes a few seconds to travel a few tens of thousands of kilometers.I'm assuming your referring to the part of Sentinel where the two FAZZs exchange shots with the four Xeku-Eins. In that part they say "Crypt's FAZZ aimed and fired its Hyper Mega Cannon. A clear blue light gushed from the muzzle, becoming a solid beam of light traveling at an incredible speed, getting absorbed into the pitch-black darkness. One second, two seconds, three seconds... 'Damn it, I missed!' " and "However, even in this era, combat on the order of tens of thousands of kilometers was still not assured.". From these 2 passages we can assume 2 things, one that the travel time for the FAZZ's cannon shots between the it and the Xeku-Eins take at least 3 seconds and two the FAZZ and Xeku-Eins are atleast 10,000 km apart.if we go on the low end of things and assume that the two groups of suits are only 10,000 km apart (remember the battle is described as happening tens of thousands of kilometers apart not just ten thousand km) and that beams take 3 seconds to cross that distance we are looking at 3,333,333.333 m/s for the minimum speed for the FAZZ's beam cannon shots. If we compare that speed to the speed of light (299,792,458 m/s) we find that the FAZZ's beam cannon shots travel at around 1% light speed.TLDR, beam weapon speeds are stupid fast and not all slow like you were implyingMy math:Finding FAZZ beam cannon speed10,000 km / 3 sec = 3,333.333333 km/sconvert to m/s by multiplying by 1,0003,333.333333 km/s * 1000 = 3,333,333.333 m/sconverting to % lightspeed( 3,333,333.333 m/s / 299,792,458 m/s (the speed of light) ) * 100 = 1.111880317 % lightspeedThe translation of Sentinel I used:https://zeonic-republic.net/translation/sentinel_complete.pdf page 35
>>23573121BTW this was meant as more of rebuttal to the assertion that "Beam weaponry is retarded to begin with. It'll never be more efficient to fire balls of plasma over long distances than it is to simply fling a big rock faster". My point being that as described in >>23572177, UC beams take "a few seconds to travel a few tens of thousands of kilometers", which describes beams traveling at a minimum of 1% lightspeed and throwing rocks faster than that is by no means more efficient nor practical.
>>23572854like some sort of beam jammer canceller?
>>23573121But what kills stuff better?
HATCHETMANHE'S THE MAN WITH THE HATCHET
>>23571674The Gundam Hammer especially in Turn A. And Turn A also had those big drill stick things. And vibrating FLAT limbs.Panzer World Galient's OVA was really fun. Or any fantasy series where they just have swords like Dunbine really. But that OVA is just two robots beating the shit out of each other and if ends with an insane magic sword finisher thing. Or just FISTS. Like Giant Robo and Tetsujin punching the shit out of things.
Rip and tear.
