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Shout stream starts in 11 minutes.
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Ultimate east vs west dream bout when?
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Path of Pain type shit
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Nice framing
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>Japanese Epstein
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Nem is dead?
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Nem is coma?
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>>23572850
Coma.

That's why she's in every dream.
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>>23572850
>>23572856
>>23572858
Nem is in a coma for 4 years?
And they're hiding that from the public all this time? How that even works?
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What are your praises and criticisms on Zeztz's sixth episode?
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They finally translated his other closet sign. It matches pretty closely with that one anon's TL.
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>hiring a 16 year old to play a 20 year old who's been comatose for 4 years
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>>23572860
>How that even works?
AI bro, Kamen Rider Deepfakes.
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>>23572861
I wonder when his sister will notice a middle age couple climbs her home to her brother's room every day.
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The giant CGI monstrosity MOTW reminds me of Hibiki
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>>23572861
The cutaways to Baku sleeping and acting out stuff from the dream kill me everytime I swear. I wasn't expecting this show to have so much comedy but I like it, they've struck a good balance with it. Also surprised we're getting Nem reveals so soon.
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>>23572861
probably my favorite episode so far. Nice action and good plot. I love the misdirect where it seemed like it might be Nem's dream.
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>>23572858
She's in everybody's dreams because she's famous, her special power is being a lucid dreamer like Baku.
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>>23572861
It was mid for a plot episode.
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>>23572861
Honestly amazing, surprised how much this episode moved the plot forward
Also I'm still so glad that Zeztz got such a great pull of directors, it kinds of made me worry which directors the next Sentai will get
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>Call her Nemu
>She's not sleepy at all she's fukken comatose
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>>23572869
>Remember to use protection, little bro!
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>>23572912
She's quite literally permanently sleeping due to a coma, how is the name "sleep" not fitting?
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Longer preview
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uv2CAHamwvQ
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>>23572860
Sora2
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>>23572907
Definitely more involved in setting up Nem & Nox then it was building it's own pacing but it wasn't a bad episode. I just hope or cop buddies being shoved to the side isn't a reoccurring trend.
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>>23572840
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Outing myself as a spic, as embarrassing as that is, I have a question, does anyone know where I can watch the latest episode? All info I have found suggest the episode releases tomorrow and the Youtube channel that uploads the episodes have set episode 6 to members only.
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>>23573032
If you want to watch it officially then check the TokuSato channel, the episode is already out but apparently it's now members only the fuck? The episodes used to be available for everybody
Otherwise stop being a newfag and use nyaa, being a spic isn't really an excuse I'm from a latinamerican hellhole
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>>23572857
thanks bro
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any streaming sites for toku?
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>>23572966
true, fujimi and nasuka should've been able to do and shown their own investigation
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>>23573177
tubi
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Flipped it so you can read it.
Here are Machinery and Projection
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>>23572806
Is it good?
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>>23572861
The rapshit insert is *not* growing on me
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>>23572806
Just started watching this. Neat opening sequence.
But also... I just realized Baku's full name basically transaltes to "sleeps a lot". lmao
I do love the Nip propensity for pun names.
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>>23572864
>It matches pretty closely with that one anon's TL.
Of course it does. I know what I'm doing.
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So if Nemu is just a real girl, I wonder what was being implied by Nox's comment about being endless and the screen focusing on Nemu.
Maybe Nox is a real person, too? But he's shed his mortal body and become a spirit/dream-being/whatever. And so maybe Nemu is in that precursor stage to becoming one?
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>>23573256
Probably he is dying and the new Driver will rejuvenate his mortal body so he can fight in real world too.
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Boring shits
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Fascinating shits
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Riding shits
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Mystery shits
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Goshart
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Nemu sits
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>>23573303
I'd let her sit on my face all day.
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>>23572861
I liked it, though they made the manager creepier than he should be considering that twist.
The thing I really don’t like is Nox. Every word that comes out of his mouth it’s like out of a 2010s edgy teens textbook. He’s so annoying already, and for a guy who’s the main villain and will be the secondary, that’s a bad start. The show’s quality takes a nosedive anytime he shows up.
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>>23573307
>Every word that comes out of his mouth it’s like out of a 2010s edgy teens textbook
He'll be another coma kid. And he's been in his for a long time. So he never outgrew that phase.
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>>23573311
I wonder what the twist on the stones and the Rider suit and Zero is gonna be then. Because all this is coming from somewhere. And if Nox is just another human, then he's just like Baku in that his powers and knowledge are coming from something pre-existing.
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>>23573306
She's 16...
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>>23573339
She's now 17 you stupid fuck
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>>23573307
>The thing I really don’t like is Nox. Every word that comes out of his mouth it’s like out of a 2010s edgy teens textbook.

Yeah, it's really easy for the "speaks in riddles to make my unknown motivations seem deep" villain archetype to become grating. One good thing I can say about Gavv's villains is that they are almost refreshingly blunt in their motivations.
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>>23573307
The manager really reminds me of Shirakura for some reason.
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>>23572806
I'm confused.
Is the president using deepfake or something to make people believe that Nem is still safe and sound? I thought she was still appearing everywhere so how he managed to trick people into not knowing she has been in comma for years.
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Nox is totally joining Baku and the others eventually, isn't he?
Otherwise, this scene in the opening feels fucking weird for it to include the main villain just standing there while the heroes are being silly.
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>>23573682
Yes, he's the Secondary Rider
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>>23573725
As expected.
They shouldn't have included Nox there, unless he will end up changing sides sooner than expected.
Otherwise, having the antagonist-turned-rider spoiled so soon feels dumb.
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Nem is a dumb bitch, I don't like her
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>>23573737
Kamen Rider Yezz is debuting in January.
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>>23573743
She is a cute dumb bitch, please like her, anon!
at least you still have Baku sis and the hot mature police woman
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>>23573768
I don't like Nasuka either, I don't like characters who are nagging bitches and little else.
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>>23573743
>>23573778
Incel-kun...
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>>23573838
I'm not an incel, faggot, the sister is fine.
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>>23573682
>My feet hurt
>When do I get to meet Ultraman?
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Be patient with Nemu, she was raised dumb by a pedophile on purpose.
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>>23573925
Kek, do you think the whole pedophile vibe was on purpose or something incidental?
Before the chapter end, I had thought the conflict was that the dreamer wanted Nem, the president and his wife to be a family, but couldn't now that the adults had divorced, causing the nightmare to force them together.
But the moment the president went full schizo escaping with Nem and pushing his ex-wife away as if she were trash was both so shocking and funny
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>>23573918
This bastard looks so NOT threatening it's kinda funny.
He is low-key adorable.
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>>23573951
Didn't they say that he was originally designed to have fully white hair and look closer to Vergil from DMC but the actor said it was better the have a dual-colored hair and a backwards ring?
I really wonder if Nox will go full schizo later since they said that one of the reasons they specifically wanted his actor was because he has a lot of experience and Nox is according to them Nox is a complex role
Also do we know for which role did the actor audition before?, I always assumed that he auditioned for Shotaro
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>>23573950
I think he might've overacted in that orphanage scene and he came off less as being excited to find a new talent and more excited to have new prey
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>>23573989
I thought it was on purpose because director Yamaguchi likes horror, even the flashback filter was darker to make it seem ominous, I assume that even though the guy isn't a groomer the tone will make sense once we get Nem's POV on the whole thing.
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>>23574052
I mean the whole thing with him being obsessive over Nem isn't unique, it seems like everyone in the world is to some degree. And it could be the accident is his fault in some way too or he just blames himself by proxy.
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>>23573249
Kamen Rider protagonist names have almost always been puns for years
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>>23573737
Most people aren't going to know that. Especially kids watching
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>TakaHACKshi mystery box bullshit AGAIN
Please never give him another show
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>>23574082
I feel you are underestimating kids
>Why is the bad dude posing with the heroes? Is he going to become a good guy too?
I think it's as simple as that.
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>>23574105
but takaGODshi didn't write the show with the mystery box
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>>23573339
Out of 10
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How long will Zeztz keep going before it enters a filler arc?
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Baku continues to be the best part of the show
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>>23574284
Newfag, Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are 40+ episodes long, meaning to last a whole year, so around June they enter the final arc with the intention of ending within the range of August to early October, but hardly any season ends that late, these shows are usually over by August or September
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>>23574284
After the first quarter like every Rider series. The first quarter is the shill all the toys period. The second quarter is filler wheel spinning. The third quarter completely loses sight of the show and goes to shit. The final quarter is oh shit right we had a plot we were supposed to be doing.
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>>23574553
Zero-One, Revice and Geats aren't all the Rider shows there are.
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>>23574284
According to the producers we ARE in the most episodic part of the show and it will be much more plot focused after the halfway point.

As long as they don't pull a Zero-One "people loved those early episodes focused on jobs, so let's put a break on our story to make more episodes like that." But considering current production timeline, they probably were getting ready for the 2nd half when saying that interview.
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Nem is not cute. Nem is not beautiful nor idol-like. Not even believable. Nem's voice is annoying. Holy fuck could they have picked a worse actress goddamn
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So weird once you notice Zeztz protag has to wear contacts for those closeup shots of his eyes
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>>23574556
But those were all written by the same person who is also writing Zeztz and there is no indication it will be any different
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>>23574586
He didn't write Revice. In both Zero-One and Geats the plot stopped due to the producers since they wanted to keep a status quo they liked for longer. While here the producer outright said the 2nd half will be more plot focused.
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>>23574564
She's literally Neon 2.0
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>>23574597
Women are the worst thing to happen ever
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>>23572889
im really liking how Zeztz is approaching form changes. he'll probably have like 20 of them by the end, but each new one is just a subcategory under the 4 main colors and only vary in equipment. it means they can keep pumping out toys, but the visual theming will (hopefully) stay very strong.
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>>23574921
>but the visual theming will (hopefully) stay very strong.
In exchange for the motifs being extremely loose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFR7C1yalPQ
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[TokuScrub]
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>>23574921
Actually it seems that these four forms won't get any more add-ons beyond the ones already shown and instead the future upgrades and the secondary Rider will each have their own set of add-ons
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>>23574587
In Geats the status quo remained because the producer seemingly at the last minute delayed the upgrades causing the writer to have no idea on how to handle the arcs from everyone in the cast that isn't Ace
But you're right that Takahashi got screwed by the producer's in both, so far everything indicates that Yanaka's decisions will lead to Zeztz being Ex-Aid levels of good since it has more planning going for it while taking decisions that fight against some of Takahashi's biggest flaws

Honestly I'm excited for the future of Toei's toku since I feel like both Matsuura and Yanaka understand what people want from a toku and Minato will indoctrinate them so that their shows have constant insert songs (although in Zeztz's case insert songs have been a monkey paw so far)
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>>23574977
What a convoluted way to say Takahashi is an incompetent writer who hasn't put out anything good since Ex-Aid.
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>>23574977
>Matsuura and Yanaka understand what people want from a toku
Gozyuger is a mess and Yanaka admitted he's not familiar with Rider.
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>>23574998
>Yanaka admitted he's not familiar with Rider
He didn't say that, he said that he wasn't familiar with Kamen Rider growing up and only got into once he started working on toku, he's actively trying to make the show feel like Early Heisei because he's trying to emulate the aspect of Rider that got him into this franchise, which to be fair a lot of staffers from. Kamen Rider are like that. Shirakura wasn't a fan of Kamen Rider until Black, prior that he mostly cared about other Ishinomori toku and Denziman, Omori hated Kamen Rider as a kid because Amazon traumatized him and Kami didn't get into toku until he started working on it from the Nega Den-O movie onward.
Gozyuger is still mostly good and mostly beloved in Japan, really the only bad thing Matsuura did was having motw alongside the red rangers which feels extremely messy otherwise I blame most of the issues on Akiko which being fair to him wasn't his first choice for main writer.
Point is Matsuura's /m/ autism, Yanaka's understanding his own flaws so he gets people to help him mitigate that makes them producer close to Omori's level, which is a good thing since ever since he left the most veteran producer was Takebe who's a massive wildcard, and at the moment Minato and Kuji don't feel like safe choices.

>>23574987
His two Lupin movies and pretty much every live-action drama that wasn't a toku he did since Ex-Aid were great, really it's only his toku whose most of its faults fall on the producers, Monstaboo and from my understanding his other anime, I haven't watched any of his non-Lupin anime but the general opinion I've seen is that they're either shit, or in the case of Virgin Punk strictly OK.
I don't get why toku fans always pretend that Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are the only things these writer do while choosing to not acknowledge bts stuff but I have to assume it's purely done for shitposting purposes or because they let writers live rent free in their head.
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>>23574971
we havent seen anything from the green and purple colors yet. and both the red and blue came with two sub forms with special add ons. i gotta imagine the trend will continue. thats 3 forms per form, 4 total means at least 12 forms but all under the umbrella of the 4 colors, and that's all before the secondy's stuff.
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>>23575055
>>23574971
cont.

if you've literally seen an article or something deconfirming it then my b, but it seems like a really strange choice to not evenly distribute them
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>>23575055
>>23575056
There's no official source, I'm just speculating based on the sounds found in Zeztz's belt and the leaks for the first upgrade and the secondary Rider
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>>23574414
>calling others newfags while saying we don't get filler shit
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>>23575011
You can only cope for so long, people kept saying Geats had a good producer and that it seemed to be really well thought out until it didn't.
>Gozyuger is still mostly good and mostly beloved in Japan
"Beloved" is overselling it, and Japan's general audience doesn't care how good something actually is as long as it's "interesting", so a show with ADHD pacing that keeps throwing shit at the wall without any thought out execution will be enough to please them, but hardcore Toku fans sure as hell are not pleased.
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>>23573974
>Didn't they say that he was originally designed to have fully white hair and look closer to Vergil from DMC but the actor said it was better the have a dual-colored hair and a backwards ring?
Yes, the actor said it himself on the vlog
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>>23575082
NTA but it's because of the interviews people knew how much Takebe getting ahead of herself and ruins some of plot pacing.
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>>23575011
>I blame most of the issues on Akiko
If Matsuura can't keep her in check, it means he's a failure of a producer. Otherwise, you're just being an hypocrite by blaming all of Zero-One and Geats on their producers while essentially claiming Takahashi did nothing wrong.
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>>23575094
>it's because of the interviews
Yeah, the POST-SHOW interviews, we won't get info on how the plans for Zeztz might have changed until the halfway point at the earliest.
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>>23575011
>Gozyuger is still mostly good and mostly beloved in Japan
I wouldn't say beloved. It's like Zi-O, it ranks high in polls because it's a special milestone anniversary show and has special events going on when it aired like the suit museum.
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>>23575082
>people kept saying Geats had a good producer
Naomi Takebe has always been considered a wildcard and had already been demoted once at that point, iirc most people didn't consider a great producer back them, people thought that the show was great because giving Takahashi freedom was seemingly a good thing aside from the villains and Keiwa bullying, then she delayed the toys and everything went to shit
With Gavv similarly it seemed that giving Komura freedom while working on a small cast was great thing that fixed most of her usual issues, then budget problems plus Takebe's insistence on letting the Stomach live.
With Gozyuger I barely saw any japanese people, including hardcore fans complaining about it, but admittedly I don't use twitter much so I might be really wrong.

>>23575095
I'm not saying Takahashi isn't at fault of every issue, like I said Zeztz's setting so far seems to cinrcuvent his usual issues, which is the secondary getting shafted in favor of a rival and villain bloat. But most of Zero-One's and Geats' problems were the producers' faults, we know this from interviews, people like to say Takahashi isn't adaptable but he came with Ark-One and manage to adapt Kiriya back to Ex-Aid's story, ultimately him and Komura aren't great writers but they aren't bad either.
With Gozyuger Matsuura has done mostly a good job and Akiko is the greenest writer we've ever gotten to head a toku besides the mystery nigga that's Shinji Oishi.

>>23575098
With Geats we knew the toys had been delayed due to leaks, with Gotchard we knew how the producer limited the rest of the staff and the conditions that led to having multiple writers, the scenes that Tasaki removed and how Houtaro's motivation got changed by Matsuura, with Gavv 3 episodes in Q2 we knew the budget issues and by Q3 we knew that the Stomach weren't initially supposed to live that long although we didn't learn it was Takebe's choice until the show was over.
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>>23575110
Speaking of Takebe, everytime I read post about her on baidu. Chinks seems hated her so much.
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>>23575110
>then she delayed the toys and everything went to shit
Everything went to shit as soon as Q2 started, with Takahashi immediately disregarding Keiwa, Neon and Michinaga's development up to that point and replacing Girori with a far more annoying and incompetent Game Master.
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>>23575110
>With Gozyuger Matsuura has done mostly a good job and Akiko is the greenest writer we've ever gotten to head a toku besides the mystery nigga that's Shinji Oishi.
It was Matsuura's decision to hire her of all people.
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>>23575171
It was because he groomed her into being a main writer during Gotchard as a back up plan in case he wasn't able to get the writer he wanted
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>>23575170
That's only in hindsight with most of the stuff post-Q1 not mattering due to the show cratering during the 40s near the end due to the issues with the toy upgrades happening later than planned and Takebe having cold feet with Dark Keiwa so everything after Q1 didn't really matter because of the show turning into a clusterfuck.

If those issues weren't there and they had stuck to the landing it might have been different.
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>>23575170
Girori was bad because the inconsistencies with his acting due to the staff not telling the actor what his character was about, Keiwa still got ton of focus and development on Q2. The problem by then was Keiwa getting bullied in spite of his development, the show pretending Michinaga was a good guy despite him having no way of knowing that what he was doing was a good thing, Neon getting no repercussions and the villain bloat.

>>23575188
Actually no the issues the anon is talking about are legitimate issues that were Takahashi's fault, the show did indeed drop in quality in Q2, it just wasn't a "this show is now shit" kind of drop but aside from the Keiwa bullying which apparently was going to be addressed until the delay all of these problems would have remained regardless, that's why even without Takebe's interference the show still wouldn't have been around the quality of Ex-Aid or most Heisei toku but it would have at least been around Drive/Saber tier where it's a really great show with lots of inconsistencies had Takebe not delayed everything.
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>>23575188
>That's only in hindsight
No, anon, people were complaining about all that stuff back during Q2.
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>>23575220
The avalanche of complaints only started after the Desire Royale and Ace coming back easily from the dead. The last leg of the show was really where it was getting dunked on by everyone.
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>>23575248
Yes, people didn't say the show was complete shit yet, but the complaints at that point weren't few nor far in-between.
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Ok so, The preview for the next episode implies that the old man "sacrifices" himself to save Nem but since it's the villain saying this I assume the show is trying to say that the nightmare is encouraging the old man to commit suicide because he thinks that's the only way for Nem to wake up.
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>>23574564
(You)'re trying too hard
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dreamer is the dog
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>>23572861
It felt pretty robust: multiple action scenes, a flashback to Nem being discovered at the orphanage, Nox waking up the Prison Nightmare, etc. I was genuinely intrigued at the end and wanted to see what the deal with the CEO was.
The effects are the dodgiest part about it, as they have been for the other episodes, but I appreciate the earnestness of them.
I am going to miss the Victim of the Week format for this show when it inevitably falls into the Rider vs. Rider meta plot, but I'll enjoy what we get until then.
I did not understand the cardboard bit. Was it meant to be super unfunny? was it a pun? A reference to an existing comedy act in Japan? pls help.
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>>23575934
>Rider vs. Rider meta plot
I'm really hoping we don't get that for the second half, I'm at least kind of hopeful since the producer says he wants less riders and the previous season Gavv went back to having a Kaijin as the final boss although the last episode still had a rider VS rider fight
>I did not understand the cardboard bit
It's related to the mini-series about Baku's sister Minami, but I also didn't understand the joke beyond "you can use cardboard as anything" which isn't a funny joke since it's just a statement



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