How do you fix it?
take it to a mechanic
>>23580991Beam treads
>>23580992Unsung hero this guy.
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>>23580991Like so, tbqh
>>23580991Stack more tank treads on top.
Spherical or huge wheels
>>23580991Allow it to combine with the G-Armor for a prototype Dendrobium.
>>23580991Being able to lean down like RTX-440 would make it much less retarded
>>23580991Make it a tank-type mobile armor, instead of a glorified pseudo-MS with larger armaments.1. At the minimum double its size, and plate it with capital ship tier armor, so that it's at least as durable as a MS-sized tank. Then when you put it up against overwhelming firepower, the Gundam and Guncannon can use it as mobile cover. Hell, even add a vehicle compartment to the back so that it can carry troop transports, assault teams, and the like.2. Mount multiple point-defense vulcans all over, so that it can shrug off missile attacks with ease. I would also say I-Field generator to protect it against beam attacks, but that may be going over the top, especially since Zeon didn't actually adopt beam weapons until well late into the war.3. Upgrade the back cannons to capital ship style beam cannons with the same firepower as a Salamis' beam turrets. This way when the enemy brings ships like Gaws and Gallops into the fight, the Guntank can shoot them down.If it's going to be called a Guntank, then sure as hell it'd better be as powerful as a tank upscaled to MS proportions.
>>23580991You can’t. Tank type mobile suits like the Guntank and Hildolfr were obsolete the minute they rolled off the production line.There’s a reason the Zaku tank is more of a field modified stopgap than a production model.
Properly utilise the core block system
>>23580991>>23581064>>23581917Based core block system enjoyers
>>23581918>Guntank torso with Guncannon armsThis looks good.
>>23580991Ditch the treads and give it hover capabilities
>>23581907>You can’t. Tank type mobile suits like the Guntank and Hildolfr were obsolete the minute they rolled off the production line.Yeah, threads aren't cutting it, wheels of middle ages and the tradition of driving is where it really is!
>>23581989Wasn’t Tomino planning to have a Gigan destroy the Gundam before their episodes got cut down?
>>23582012Yes.
Thunderbolt Guntank is pretty decent take on it, point defense/art/APC/IFV
>>23582012THAT was going to kill Gundam? Was Amuro supposed to get RX-78-3 after that or something?
>>23582102Amuro was supposed to die in Sayla's bush.
>>23582102No. He dies to a Gigan in the original draft. IIRC he dies in the novel when a few Rick Doms gang up on him.
>>23582012Sometimes you see those early changes in the script where you think "oh yeah, the whole franchise would've died in the crib if they went with that".
What makes Guntank idea so resilient in universe?It would be understandable if it was just a one off, but you have:>RX-75 Guntank>RMV-1 Guntank II>RMV-3 Guntank III>RX-75 Guntank Mass Production Type>RX-75 Berge Guntank>RX-75E Local Type Guntank>RTX-440 Ground Assault Type Guntank>RTX-440-B Ground Assault Type Guntank Type B>RMV-3M Local Control Type GuntankAnd then there were Loto and its descendants GF-Tank and Guntank R-44.Honestly, it feels like there are way more direct descendants of Guntank than Guncannon and Guncannon actually got an active niche in MS combat.
>>23584333wasted trips. It's a tank with guns on it dude, what do you expect?
>>23584442>It's a tank with guns on it dudeAs opposed to a tank without guns on it?>what do you expect?I expect basic literacy from people that reply to my posts. I know what tanks do and done historically, my question was about tank-ish robots in a universe, where giant humanoid two-legged robots on battlefield isn't a retarded idea, but a main way to wage a war.If you'd ask me, I'd say that the real reason why Tomino hated G-Fighter isn't because it is toyetic, but because G-Sky and G-Bull undermine the giant robot premise by being actually good traditional weapons on a supposedly changed battlefield.
>>23584333They have their own version of Mike Sparks and unlike real life people in the military actually listen to him no matter how retarded his ideas are.
>>23580991Done
>>23584582>I expect basic literacy from people that reply to my posts.k fine>>23584582>G-Sky and G-Bull undermine the giant robot premise by being actually good traditional weapons on a supposedly changed battlefield.>G-SkyA gimmicky machine that replaces cockpit and twin beam cannons of a large fighter-bomber with a smaller docked aircraft and the legs and lower torso of a mobile suit. IIRC the G-sky has the Core Fighters missiles and whatever weaponry the G-fighter has, minus the turret. So the G-fighter now has to carry the mass of the Gundams legs internally (for no apparent purpose) AND it loses the G-fighter's primary weapon>G-Bullbrother this thing is retarded. It has the exposed engines of the Core Fighter facing the enemy. These cannot be armored. It has TWO cockpits. It has the torso of, head, and arms of the Gundam that has to lug around which serve no purpose in this configuration other than to hold the Gundam's shields, which if it were in G-fighter configuration it wouldn't need because it would be an agile aerospaceplane. It lacks the mobility of the Gundam, it lacks the armor of Guntank, and is overly complex for no apparent reason. They were right to replace the G-fighter with the Core Booster in the movies. The Core Booster is a much more effective mobile weapon, has beam weapons, and makes doesn't have to lug around mobile suit parts for to be a stupid tank or a shitty plane.
>>23580991Like RXR-44 Guntank
>>23582102>>23582148>>23582332He doesn't die in the draft. He makes out of the Gundam's wreckage, gets through some Zeon soldiers then personally kills Gihren with a gun, and then makes it back to the White Base crew in a scene similar to the actual ending of the tv show.
GQX fixed everything that needed fixing with the Guntank
>>23584904Mounting the arms on the guns is dumb.
>>23584919There's a reason for it though, see that lower drawing, which shows the arms can be lifted by the cannons, giving them a higher firing angle (which could be combined with cover).
>>23582102>>23582148>>23582332>>23584891https://www.gundamunofficial.com/archive/tominomemo.html>Translator's note: For some reason, many Japanese fans seem to interpret this version of the story as ending with Amuro's death, like Tomino's novels. I've tried to translate the key passages as faithfully as possible, and to me it seems at best ambiguous. After finishing off the Gigan, the wrecked Gundam flies out of A Baoa Qu before it explodes, and is greeted by cheers from the White Base crew. As Amuro loses consciousness, he says he will play with Lalah "tomorrow," which seems tonally similar to his last line in the animation.It could go either way. As >>23584891 says, Amuro physically escapes A Baoa Qu in the Core Fighter to safety with the rest of the White Base crew. He loses consciousness, which you could interpret as just being completely exhausted from the battle and everything else that has happened. You could also interpret Amuro's thoughts with Lalah to imply that (Amuro thinks) he's dying and willingly submits himself to the afterlife with Lalah. You could interpret "tomorrow" as being any indefinite length of time if you also believe ghosts persist indefinitely and therefore any normal descriptive unit of time is meaningless to a consciousness living in purgatory\between planes of existence who will never age and could wait forever to reunite with Amuro.In other words, it's exactly as open an ending as it needs to be. Don't explicitly kill off the main character in case they get offered to create a sequel, and the ambiguous fade out drives fan discussion, at least for a while.
>>23584923That's not meant to be a higher firing angle, it's meant to use the arms as a makeshift crane, which is dumb.
>>23584952this is gundam, they will invent scenarios to take advantage of this, for some stupid fucking reason all buildings are perfect height to use as cover and forests are always tall enough to hide mobile suits yet never dense enough to prevent a mobile suit from walking through ita guntank using the cannons to raise the gun arms higher to fire at an enemy from behind cover isn't even the weirdest scenario in animation
>>23580991Give it 4 modes of transformation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VWZR92PwI&t=571s
>>23581907It's really funny watching '79 and seeing just how useless the guntank is in basically every engagement It's especially hilarious during the battle of solomon where they decided to just have the fucking thing float in space and randomly have a small cut of its treads being blown to bits amid all the destruction Just a pure humiliation ritual mobile suit, no wonder hayato had such low self esteem
>>23584333 it's cheap also you don't really need much mobility for artillery/anti air jobs
>>2358498308th MS team was a blight on the franchise. I'll gladly take the worst animated parts of the New Yark fight over Mobile Suits pretending they can sneak around.
>>23584750I agree, the tank mode has a real benefit here, reducing the vertical profile to absolute minimum, and it can fill a few combat roles not covered by usual MSes
>>23584333Much like the kajillion Zaku variants I think it's the EF equivalent of trying to solve certain problems and as such only making a tiny handful of particular prototypical units, only to abandon them for reasons related to performance, cost, complexity, or mounting evidence of obsolescence. The EF is run by old farts, so it'd also make some sense that they'd try to keep the idea alive even if evidence was mounting that it wasn't salvageable.
>>23585077B-but legs are just for the show...
>>23584862I'm getting Mandela effect with this one. I remember seeing light blue R-44 with different armament, but can't find it anywhere.
>>23580991Paint it purple and put a zeon logo on it.
>>23584333For land based battles it makes more sense than any guncannon variant, much more stable firing platform, it doesn't have to engage against attacks from every angle and at the desired engagement range it's lack of any close combat ability is just fine. It should never have been allowed into space.
>>23585070Thats a really fucking cool AC gundam kitbash. Technically ACVI had this thing.
