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Despair never ends, but kawaii is justice

>New stuff
>Muv-Luv Girl's Garden (new gacha on DMM, think Muv-Luv meets Blue Archive, currently JP-only)
https://muvluv-girls-garden.com
https://x.com/Muvluv_GG
>Kiminozo Enhanced Edition R (JP-Only)
>Remember when kouki said avex wouldn't let him do ero?
https://www.antiq-games.com/kiminozo-eer
>Muv-Luv Tactics
>Backer Build (JP-Only) to release soon as of this post
https://camp-fire.jp/projects/794591/view#menu
https://www.fuzz.co.jp/app/muvtac/

>Archives
muv-luv.naruhodo.workers.dev/0:/
https://mega.nz/folder/fIhTUKSA#nTRrKtXDoekouDG03HJQIw

>Magazine
https://e-hentai.org/g/2542863/65080fd76a/
https://e-hentai.org/g/2542867/5fbeea10c3/
https://e-hentai.org/g/2735417/07efcfe577/
https://e-hentai.org/g/3018137/075492061c/

>Muv-Luv Alternative Manga
1-16:https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20911206/#q20938263
17:https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21869980/#q21894915

>Strike Frontiers assets
https://mega.nz/folder/9ddhFITD#6BVWt6BLlMsEqi2fICgTfw

>Kiminozo on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1777440/Kimi_ga_Nozomu_Eien_Enhanced_Edition/
>Teito Moyu on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2630300
Dimensions EOS
https://x.com/Muvluv_DMS/status/1870016295539822814

Previous thread
>>23524689
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WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING FROM THE STREAM, BROS?
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>>23585716
What stream?
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>>23585726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzNZs6dIFM
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I can't believe they brought back Sumika and Tama's original VAs for Girl's Garden. Meiya got fucked though, they're never bringing back her seiyuu. Though bringing them back does offer some hope for the future. Can't believe I'm saying that.
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>>23585770
Wait, how is Sumika in Girl's Garden what the fuck did I miss
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>>23585777
Muv-Luv Alternative x Muv-Luv GG collab. Given the name of the collab is 'Strangers I', there'll be ones with Total Eclipse and The Day After and Schwarzesmarken sooner or later.

https://youtu.be/eiS2Al46s9o

The thread's been offline long enough that a whole bunch of stuff got dumped while it was down.
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>>23585797
Well shit
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>>23585770
Man, casting new VA for the anime was a retarded move in the first place. I was looking forward to hear their voices again back then.
And where is Meiya original VA anyway?
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>>23585912
Long retired, as I recall.
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>>23585912
Well, some of them were probably pretty expensive, Takeru's VA is the Seed Jesus guy
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>>23586111
I doubt he's very expensive. He has next to no A-list roles this last century lol.
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>>23586128
yeah, he was Akechi in P5 tho
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>>23586141
True, but at most he is on a B-list payroll, if even that
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So now that Tamawife is in GG, what hoops do we have to jump through to play this?
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Hold up why the fuck does Tama have tits? What kind of blasphemy is this?
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>>23586314
She's just stuffing her suit with water balloons, clearly has no tits here>>23586306
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>>23586306
if you want to play it natively on a pc, you need to create a dmm account, install a vpn, download the dmm gaming app and keep your vpn on Japan at all times while playing.

game is very meh though
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>>23586441

>game is very meh though


Is Girl's Garden even out? Any confirmation if it's an AU or not?
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>>23586199
>>23586141
>>23586111

and Age is Z-tier in budget...
Pic related "Aged" like a fine wine
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>>23586496
My innocent little bunny would never call anything crap
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>>23586496
I'd be up for BETA plushie malarkey.
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>>23586451
it's been out for over a month. And yes, literally none of the lore you know is in the game.
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>>23586530

Thanks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdzNZs6dIFM
cope stream in 2 hours

will this be our cumback?
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>>23586632
Lol. Lmao.
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they better announce anything visual novel related or this ip really is going straight into the fucking grave
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>>23586639
well, GG had their own stream already so either they got actual news this year or the retards will actually just shill tactics for the entire duration
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>>23586639
It'll be a kickstarter campagin for a Kimi Ita all ages version for eventual Steam release using the new clunky engine they did Kiminozo with
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I mentioned a couple months ago looking for stuff that was similar to PTSD arc.
going through my backlog and I seriously didn't think fucking of all things Digimon would scratch the same itch.
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>>23586727
Survive?
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>>23586730
No. Adventure 1.
There's an episode where the MC goes home and starts thinking his adventures in the digital world is a dream, eventually he just decides to go back until he finds out that the digimon are actually fucking up the real world so he decides to head back and leaves his love interest behind.
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>>23586734
That's the best episode in the series actually! Never considered how similar it is to muvluv... The recent Adventure seasons even have the exact same mismanagement issues as the Alternative anime :))
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>>23586734
Oh yeah, Mamoru Hosoda really made his shit stand out lol, I think I might've cried watching that as a 1st grader
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>>23586743
I heard 2020 was a clip show but I also heard 2020 animation sucks lol. I can't wait to watch it to see how badly it shits the ball. MLA was a disappointment but it's pretty much I think they did an okay job for what they were given. Makes a pretty clip show.
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>>23586751
If you're coming straight off of watching the original I'd just skip the 2020 reboot if I were you. The repetitiveness and general mediocrity will probably ruin it for you. 02->Tri->02movie is the least painful route.
Also, wtf is going on in the stream rn lmao
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>>23586758
What stream? Oh I was planning on doing 1 -> Survive (I finished this a while back except for Wrath and with the added context of watching Adventure 1, it is a neat subversion to replay especially since some characters are "copies" of each other. for example Jyou and Shuuji) -> 02 -> and then figure it out from there. I'm also playing CS at the same time and holy fuck this game is so good, I don't know how this slipped under my radar.
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>>23585797
>>23585770
>actual good sumika h scenes
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>23586765
The Muv-Luv Presents stream :p
I haven't played Survive to completion yet, but I can see how watching adventure enhances the experience. Not played Cyber Sluts yet either, but considering just yoloing the new one, since it looks a lot better.
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How pathetic am I for getting teary-eyed at the few notes of that Extra ost at the end there?
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>>23586778
oh meh, don't think we'll get anything interesting. just glad for live2d sumika hentai.

CS I actually like a lot better than TS but I guess the "slice of life" just doing comfy detective missions for the first half of the game filtered a few people. The music is insanely good though.
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tl;dr they are going to sell reasonative as an unfinished early access version called "creator edition"
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I expected nothing but I'm still disappointed
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>>23586788
Bro chill, they need time to cook they want all the fanbase dead, even the new peoples they got with the gatcha game, before announcing another kickstarter for resonative
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>>23586788
sumika h scenes tho
finally it sucks that leymei made like no sumika hentai (he must've really hate her lmao) rip... :(
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>>23586781
I mean, it's designed to do that, isn't it? A Pavlovian response
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really crazy that they reused 2 old-ass trailers to get to the 20 minutes mark
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>>23586796
Fair enough T.T
>>23586784
Maybe I'll check sluts out then, being a muvluv fan I naturally love SOL
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>>23586803
The biggest con I can say about CS is that it's a handheld game. I mean....it kinda is what it is lol but you gotta be used to the old psp era style gameplay and stuff which is fine but it's definitely a lot slower paced. I actually wouldn't mind a CS remake to speed things up.
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>>23586787
Nvm I missread, it's actually "creators audition"
so they're gonna ask for voice actors and shit to do free work or something
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>>23586306
what happened to her hair
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>>23586808
WOOHOO MIGHTY NO 9 AND MML3 ARE BACK ON THE TABLE
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Always bet on nothing
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>>23586822
>>23586816
more GG hentai,
why don't you guys care
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>>23586822
Middle girl's got a scandalously low waistline on her pants and if she has any ass the crack will be visible
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>>23586826
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>>23586826
I only care about mechas and the indomitable human spirit.
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>>23586826
>why don't muv luv readers care about blue archive
truly a mystery
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>>23586849
>>23586852
ootl,

what does blue archive have to do with this
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>>23586854
Avex decided that the only way they could possibly make money out of muv luv is by just using the name and then making a carbon copy of blue archive but with sex scenes, so GG is set in its own alternate universe that has absolutely nothing in common with any other ML entry lore-wise, doesn't even feature BETA and the TSFs it features aren't even called TSFs
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>>23586860
yes but we get a blue archive'd sumika now getting fucked
isn't that a W?

desu i think GG h scenes are kinda meh but it's workable.
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>>23586860
I really don't care about the direct lore, but the art style and designs are really sloppy and generic (similar to BA). The lack of fortified suits or anything resembling the aesthetic of Muv-Luv makes it really feel like a unrelated cashgrab. That "totally not a TSF" looks cool, though
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>>23586632
Dimensions getting made into a web novel (web vn?) is actually probably best outcome for that, good use of time they already spent to produce "new" content.
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>>23586860
GG has h-scenes? Does that mean player self-insert gets to cuck Takeru and fuck Sumika?
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>>23586921
it's completely rewritten to be fair, there's new chapters and the existing content is now third person instead of gacha text.
>>23586927
Takeru got isekaied too so you probably just spy on him
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>>23586931
Takeru just can't catch a break
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Are GG sex scenes uploaded anywhere?
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>>23586441
>you need to create a dmm account, install a vpn, download the dmm gaming app and keep your vpn on Japan at all times while playing
Damn that sounds like ass and too much effort. Doable though if I just want to see the Tama content, doubt anyone is gonna upload her stuff anywhere (especially h-scenes).
>game is very meh though
Honestly if it's just Blue Archive 2 then that works for me. No one plays these for the gameplay anyway, it's just to look at cute girls.
>>23586812
She got less flashy but became more smoochable
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>>23586787
They've also renamed it as 'Tactics Resonative', so it's going to have gameplay integrated like Baldr Sky.
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>>23587107
>Baldr Sky
I'm okay with this I guess
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>>23587107
another Utawarerumono, and we just mentioned Digimon Survive lmao
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>>23587033
You asking for one with voices or just live2d? For Former, you can see them on Rule34Video, and the latter can be found on sad panda.
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>>23587114
if you actually are you shouldn't look up tactics gameplay footage
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>>23587122
is everything uploaded? feels like there's missing a few
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So why did Regenerative retcon Beatrix and the rest of East Germany's government into being actual Nazis?
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>>23587585
Because of the Nazi sluts in tight bodysuits trope.
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>>23587585
>>23587613
I love evil women so much.
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>>23587635
No matter how smug they may be, no matter how hard they femdom, villainesses always lose in the end.
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how will they fuck up?
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>>23587742
Poor Kouki must be seething that the single most successful Muv Luv entry following the trilogy is the gacha game that he has zero involvement in. That must really suck.
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>>23587742
well first of all, DMM sets the sales ranking list manually to give new games a popularity boost so your entire image is calculated off false data. If you want accurate data check again in 5 months or something (this month has instant MLA milking so its worthless too)
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>>23587635
God, I love Beatrix and Irisdina. It's funny how hard they fumbled the Lise and Katya. Sure Lise has her fans but no one bothers to remember to talk about Katya. It's like she's not even there.
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>>23587869
>SM fans
a niche in a niche entry.

>>23587805
its was that, or the IP buried to maybe never come back... both bad endings if you ask me
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>>23587869
Lise's popularity spiked after the second VN and has around as much fanart as Iris despite a fraction of the screentime so I don't know where you get fumbling from.
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>>23587869
I actually really like Katya's design the most, but a lot of her character is a big fumble.
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wait is the collab active now or when will it be active
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>>23587869
I like how on Irisdina's route, there's more sexual tension between her and Beatrix then there is between Theodor and Iris.
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>>23587869
>It's funny how hard they fumbled the Lise and Katya.
Katya? Sure. But Lise has far more fans than Beatrix. More loyal ones too. You get like 10x more fanart for Lise than Beatrix. And most of the Beatrix FA these days is AIslop anyway. And we don't get any teen Beatrix fanart at all.
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>>23588497
Sad , but true...
The anime did not help her
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Well, Time to read Kaseki no Uta...
what im in for? no spoilers please
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>>23588639
A haunted mansion, frustration, and rape.
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/MuvLuv/comments/1odvi1g/guys/

It does not make sense to prohibit (by treaty) Latin America from having TSFs, like nukes. Lol, LMAO even.
Its incredibly stupid. And even if things went like what happened IRL:
>just older aircraft get sold, with limited or "monkey" stuff
(with the Codex implying even USA have $$$ issues, LA wouldn't have it better )
>the lack of urgency and possible use (its the last place BETA would invade by distance)
>most of the time being hangar queens, with some sortie used as COIN
Just vetoing the fancy and new toys would do the same, with less diplomatic clusterfuck.
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>>23588714
in terms of nitroplus.. how many rapes?
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>>23588716
Age were drinking buddies with Nitro+ at the time Kaseki was made, and they were making crossover VNs together in which Age and Nitro+ characters were interacting. So there's direct Nitro+ influences there.
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>>23588819
I feel bad for this guy because he's done so many completely trash gacha games in a span on 1-2 years that my brain now automatically associates his artstyle with slop
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>>23588822
really sad, it feels more like a marketing decision than an artistic one, especially since he's the mangaka of the Fate/Samurai Remnant manga. Also, his Marimo design is really cool, despite the "sloppy" shiny look
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>>23588857
>fate samurai/remnant
>literal nothing entry
yeah this was wasted potential and sucked too. i mean better than what muv luv has been getting but for fate's standard this was pretty similar to the extella crap.
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>>23586734
It's funny seeing Digimon and Muv-Luv in the same thread, might be my two favorite things. Anyway, Survive was a disappointment, Adventure and Tamers are great, you mileage with the rest of the series may vary depending on what you play. There's no real consensus between the fandom. My personal list would be something like

Must

-Adventure 1
-Bokura no War Game
-Tamers
-Time Strangers
- Beatbreak (has just started, but it's shaping up to be really good)

I really like but some have issues
- Digimon World 1
- Kizuna
- Xros Wars (excluding the last season)

Ok tier
- Re-Digitize Decode
- Cyber Sleuth
- Ghost Game

Meh tier
-Frontier
-Savers
-Survive

Bad tier
Adventure 02(it has it's moments tho)
Digimon 2020 (the good episodes you can count with a single hand)

Absolute skip:
Digimon Tri

I want to play Dawn and Dusk soon. Dianamon was my goat in Time Strangers.
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>>23589352
Adventure 02 was my introduction to H.P. Lovecraft (the random horror episode that is never referenced again) and existential crises (Blackwargreymon's whole arc), I have a soft spot for it.
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>>23589381
I have a soft spot for it too, being a childhood anime and all. But I couldn't stand the kids in the rewatch. But I guess you tend to remember the good rather than the bad.

https://youtu.be/nEtEeHSKk9c this scene has traumatized me
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>>23585777
Everyone predicted a Muv-Luv collab because 10/22 fell on a Wednesday this year which happens to be the day GG generally does maintenance and event updates.
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>>23585797
>Takeru
Flopperoni. I don't need that fraud around. Damn it Tashiro, you're going to kill this game adding other male characters.
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>>23587869
Katia remains my favorite but there's not much point in talking about her anymore. The only company I have left are trolls like you editing her out of pictures and calling her Katya.
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>>23589157
i was talking about the artwork lmao
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>>23587808
The funny part is that GG was doing extremely well on its own and accruing newfags, beating out multiple games during their anniversary events when they should have been able to suppress it. You should assume this collab was planned well in advance, like they assumed its momentum would have collapsed in two weeks and this would bring in oldfags for a surge that might make it reach the top 20. I agree with waiting 5 months to get the real data but that's also to see if they can adapt and emphasize Girls Garden's own identity. If anything, the lack of association with normal Muv-Luv was a big bonus for it.

>>23586931
It's more like you'll "become" Takeru. One of the differences between them is that SKK has a red tie while Takeru has dog tags. Dishonest marketing places his tachi as nearly eye-level with Meiya but the CG maintains his original height which is significantly taller. How much this element works for newfags who are already attached to SKK will be its own test.

>>23586496
Not only does age not exist anymore, anchor's not the one calling the shots. That's avex and exnoa. Sadly it seems like the director of this game didn't have enough power to hold back this collab idea.

>>23586860
I wish they fully committed to the idea. This move worries me.
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>>23586830
Who cares when we have the slampig on the right?
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>>23589435
>If anything, the lack of association with normal Muv-Luv was a big bonus for it.
This. Given how toxic the name's become (how many people associate Muv Luv with the 8 hour Dimensions disaster?), the further away it gets from Muv Luv, the greater its chances of survival.
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>>23589352
Survive is weird. I see where they're going with and I don't think it's "bad". I quite like it but you can tell this should've REALLY been an anime rather than a game. There's a lot of meandering but the actual background lore, scenarios and characters are fine. It's just....nothing really happens most of the time. I think the main issue is that if they're going to do this "survival" gimmick. They need some sort of end goal type scenario. Yes to go home but DeSu had the 7 day limit. This? They want to get home but they don't even really have clues or know how to get home, there's no growing tension except wanting to get home and the MASTER (somewhat) but it's not like the MASTER is actively chasing them so you just get a lot of them waddling around and that kinda sucks for a game.

>CS on Okay Tier
WTF
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>>23589449
Let's be generous, there were few people at the time who cheered the lack of association with mainline Muv-Luv both here and in Japan.
One of the most nuance defenses I saw of it on xitter came from a normally-parody account.

I can imagine the mood during GG's planning stage was even worse because of the then-ongoing Dimensions disaster.
How do you explain to boomer otaku who think Alternative is the end-all be-all of Muv-Luv that the concept of disregarding the original series which in part caused Immortals and Dimensions to tank could make Girls Garden a success simply because the latter opted to finally go all-in on OCs?
In some ways we're lucky they conceded in favor of limiting appearances of the originals to collabs.
I want to hope that this event will wrap up the initial mystery regarding its connection to mainline Muv-Luv but knowing Tashiro hasn't been whipped enough yet I fear they'll try to make this a big event.
If Girls Garden survives this unintended assassination attempt I can already imagine them trying to use it to prop up the main series like having a Tactics: Resonative trailer release alongside a TDA collab.
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Is GG x MLA collab live already? damn it
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Fun fact: Tama's original seiyuu also voices the original Nanoha from Triangle Heart. Imagine how big she would've become if she weren't recast for the anime adaptation of Lyrical...
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>>23589457
Survive heart was in the right place, it just needs a better writer next time, I hope there's a sequel as I actually like the endings.
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>>23589501
In their defense it got rewritten and reworked so many fucking times. I don't think the writer was the problem but they probably had to cut out so much that the remaining left over was pretty much the skeleton. Here's hoping that they try with Survive 2.
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>>23587107
>Baldr Sky
Walmart Front Mission is the closer comparison.

>>23587148
Neither the writing since it's being mangled by the MLA anime writer



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