You're fucking gayYou fucking suck too'Look at me I got mass produced to lose the war.'Look how well that turned out fucker.And Fuck the gelgoog too.
>>23588728the dick sucking snouts, of course
>>23588761>Zimmadfags eternally maldingYa love ta see it
>zeeks come out with an insane new overpowered supermachine that totally dominates the battlefield and has the enemy considering surrender>the federation makes the same vehicle but better and begin pushing back>the zaku is now the "underdog" and everyone starts ranting about how it's a cool underpowered grunt suit that's way cooler than the lame, overpowered gundam?These niggas had months of stomping balls and tanks and gassing helpless colonies and suddenly the gundam and suit carried beam weapons "isn't fair!"?
>>23588762Imagine
>>23588728The Heat Hawk.
>>23588804huh what are you talking about, anon? that has nothing to do with gayness
>>23588728If you lost the war. You're automatically gay. Therefore. All zeek trash is gay.
MF'n Zeon MF'rs got me like
>>23588728Zakus are so fucking cool, even Netflix barely fucked them up
Why did they give him thicc thighs and dick thruster?
>>23589122They look like the michelin man fucked a goomba.
>>23589179I like the greebled design
GMs tend to be cooler than Gundams.
>>23588761>You're fucking g-KABOOM
>>23588728no straggot could ever be better
>>23589122Oh but they sure did try
>>23591479I love how the cope cages are a thing now
>>23588804>feddies about to surrender, ending the war>Revil rolls his fat ass in front of a camera, announces he's crunched the numbers and they can throw more meat into the grinder than zeon can>a few months later half of humanity has been killed thanks to human wave tactics and retrofitted space pods>but they bought enough time for some bloated budget project to shit out a gimmicky thing in bright colours that can't lose a fight if it tried (it did try, they put a ten year old in the cockpit after slapping him around a bit, he still won)>somehow this is zeons faultLet me guess, your latte spilled while your GM automatically executed Amuro maneuver #448 (stab a fucker in the cockpit with your laser sword) and you think you learned a valuable lesson on the horrors of war?
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>>23588804If you want a zaku underdog suit that actually sucked shit from the day it was produced, you have the Hizack. Which looks better than any actual Zaku for my money. But I love basically all the MS that blatantly copy design elements from multiple factions, it's why the Titans have so many kino designs.>>23592867Revil deserves more shit than he gets for that comment but the vast majority of causalties were before he gave that speech bc the colony drop and Loum had already happened.There would have just been a bunch of gay civil wars with stupid reasons if Zeon won anyway, it wouldn't last
because clover wasn't paying attention
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>>23592867Literal cope for losing an arms race they started halfway to the finish line. It's like if the turtle and the hare ended with the turtle curbstomping him.
>>23592898Feddies always had the numbers, budget and materials advantage,it doesn't matter how far ahead zeon got when the moment feddy turtle wakes up he teleports to the finish line with his invincible oneshot self learning mech and it's wizard pilot (first attempt).
>>23592876I mean, the Hizack does look sick, but better than any Zaku?Putting aside it being iconic as hell, I agree that the Hizack looks better than the OG Zaku and the II, but the Zaku III is downright beautiful, and this is coming from someone that prefers the GM and its descendants.>>23592867>shit out a gimmicky thing in bright colours that can't lose a fight if it triedYou mean like an actual real-life prototype? A lotta test craft and such are just a bunch of shit smeared together to see if it works (i.e. the F-15 STOL/MTD being just an Eagle with thrust vectoring, canards and some other shit crammed in), or something WAY overtuned for actual production (like proof-of-concept cars, for instance).
>>23592876>>23593097The Hizack gets a bad rep for its generator issues but in terms of general performance it's about on par with super prototypes from the OYW (said to be comparable to the Galbaldy B- which only saw slight upgrades from its Principality counterpart). Coupled with additional benefits like being cheaper to produce and easier to pilot, it's easy to understand why the Titans chose it for mass production over something like the vastly-overspec'd Pale Rider DII
>>23592926When zeon are overpowered and completely winning, they're still somehow the underdogs in zeekfag eyes.It's like how they'll rant that the gundam is a mary sue bullshit wunderwaffen and watch it blow up the latest 50 meter tall zeek MA with newtype enhanced mega beam funnels, but that's okay, it's not mary sue overpowered bullshit because it loses. It's all forgiven if you can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
>>23592926Oh yes the feddies are the ones that asspull a tech lead, sureThey get literally one weapon that is actually up to scratch with Zeon's regular forces (by the time the GM is out in serious numbers Zeon has already moved onto the Dom which outclasses it)And Zeon get a whole newtype lab making its own MS out of nowhere, including getting the most powerful NT in the galaxy for free because she likes CharAnd right after the Federation shows off their game changer solar system, Zeon just get a way better version of the same thing immediatelyFeds literally get one lucky break in having a modern machine in the Gundam and a great pilotZeon get handed free wins constantly as if money is no object for spacenoids and a design can go from R&D to the battlefield in a week
>>23593286Well, quite frankly yes. If the ubercockendicken 1200ft MA does nothing but die to a single gundam beam sword poke like every other thing put in front of it then it only exists to wank the gundam harder.
>>23593183A cheap to make titanium alloy frame zaku with even minor beam capabilities would make any OYW zeek general drool, I'm not surprised it got more popular than the refurbished GM II units. I do wonder why there was never an attempt to federation it up a bit, swap the shoulders for more boxy designs and maybe try and hide the snout a little if you can't slap a gundam shaped head on like they did with GMs.
>>23593097A prototype in real life isn't the ultimate machine that all successors are pale copies of, a prototype gundam would be something like a zaku frame with some head vulcans bolted on, or a stationary core block dummy to test jettisoning the core fighter.
>>23593914A turtle and the hare story isn't supposed to make you think turtles are actually overpowered and bullshit. It's to make you think even the mighty can fall to a lesser if they're not careful and clever. The MA are clearly still stronger and more expensive.
>>23588728Gundam is designed to be "the hero" so it looks like a giant metal samurai.Zakus look more like war machines. Won't say they're "realistic", but they don't scream HEY THIS IS THE HERO THIS IS THE PROTAGONIST LOOK HE'S WHITE AND RED AND HIS ANTENNA LOOKS LIKE A SAMURAI CREST.So, depends on what you prefer.
>>23595431But in this case the turtle was never in a losing position, the hare threw on a pair of fancy running shoes to try and catch up with the turtles taxi but the taxi ran the hare over.
>>23595936I guess you can't be in a losing position if you didn't exist when the other guy was winning non-stop for months on end, against almost completely ineffective resistance.Normally guys really like it when the humans finally reverse-engineer alien technology and use it to fight back against the oppressively powerful invaders.
>>23595431>>23595936Actually thinking a bit further on this, turtle and hare analogy doesn't even make sense. Federation didn't have any slow and steady progress catching up to an idle zeon, zeon was the one trying whacky new things only to be bat down by the same feddy thing each week. It's wile e. coyote v roadrunner.
>>23595994If you're taking before the series into account then it becomes a reverse turtle and hare, slow zeon turtle sees federation hare napping on the start line and gets ahead making slow steady progress (waff > zaku 1 > zaku 2), fed hare wakes up and immediately is at the finish line with it's gundam.
>>23588728I hate how retarded this line art looks. It's proportions are utterly fucked. They didn't even look that stupid in the show outside of QUALITY moments.
>>23596938lets see your lineart retard
My loyalty lies with the Deikun family. Fuck the Zabi.I'll pilot my green jobber in their name until it explodes
>>23594429>zaku with even minor beam capabilities would make any OYW zeek general droolAct Zaku with even the magnetic coating didn't help them much.And so, technically dumb feddies and 'tans did extreme R&D gymnastics involving the T3 just to reinvent the Act Zaku with no wartime stress or production strain, all to deploy it hand-in-hand with the actual Act Zaku during the Gryps war, which was slightly more operationally obsolete only due to less modernisation add-ons like the ballute system and the better generator for a pair of units to handle a mega launcher. Gryps war was the shock point for marking both Hizack and Act Zaku with being obsolete.But Anaheim was involved in Hizack development so maybe all of this isn't surprising at all.
>>23603325I think the cheap to make part is the important difference between ACT Zaku and a Hizack, ACT Zaku was all the bells and whistles upgrade which probably ran up more than a gelgoog, while when deisgning the Hizack, the war was over, and so it was just a case of upping the generator output enough to fire a beam gun or saber so it can oneshot any OYW remnants it comes up against rather than trying to keep up with the curve during wartime.
>>23588728Because of its Cyclops eye.
>>23592891Lalah what the fuck were you thinking, Amuro didnt even need to kill Char in this timeline.
>>23592891the best timeline
>>23604841This
>>23592867sorry i>*COLONY DROP*n't hear you th>*COLONY DROP*'s some construction or>*COLONY DROP*thing going on with my zeon neighbors
>>23596029The gundam isn't the finish line. It's less powerful than the average super duper MA. Amuro's just cool like that.
>>23621661Pretty much cycles back to >>23593914
>>23593914>>23621661You'd think after the third or fourth time they would build point defences against getting one shot melee killed.
>>23594429>A cheap to make titanium alloy frame zaku with even minor beam capabilitiesThat's Gelgoog.
>>23623475It does if you're stupid and don't get why the protagonist is an underdog that beats stronger/more menacing foes and doesn't just die.
>>23624099While the Gelgoog was similar to the Zaku at least spiritually, it was neither cheap nor easy to pilot.
>>23588959>All of UC is people trying to make autistic newtype specialty MS/MA to "dominate the battlefield">apparently all it takes to dominate the battlefield is one angry ex-titans pilot and a decently high spec prototype MSWho knew
