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While I enjoyed watching Victory and it's easily in my top five, I will disagree and say that Turn A is better.

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>>23599254
Yeah Turn A is easily the best.

>>23599249
It's way too flawed to be the best.

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>>23599270
>female protagonist
>best

>>23599605
Didn't hurt Zeta

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>>23599605
>>23599617
jej
Oh you guys

>Great things about Victory
Shakti
Marbet
>Good things about Victory
The Shrike team
Suzy
Katejina Loos
>Bad things about Victory
Katejina Loos
All those dead women
Bikes
Everything else

Hmmm, not quite cutting it I'm afraid

>>23602596
Bikes are great. I love medieval mecha shows.

>>23599254
Because you flipped the V upside down a put a line between the letter?

>>23602596
>women dying is bad!
Ah a white knight.

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>>23602830
Not really, I just find wanton slaughter distasteful regardless of gender (unless it's campy bullshit like MD Geist) and I'm happy Tomino got out of that depression streak where he killed off hundreds for no good reason, Victory had plenty of ridiculously grotesque violence on women for the sake of shock value.
Moreover too many good people die in Victory and the vast majority of them are women for some reason, it's like reverse Xabungle, it's depressing as fuck.

>>23602861
Bitches and whores. Violence is fun old man. You should try it sometime.

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>>23602596
There is nothing wrong with the bikes. They are ridiculous and enhanced my enjoyment of the show greatly.

I'm mixed on it. It meanders a LOT and the shakti gets kidnapped again plot and how she's trying to convince her mom to stop even though her mom is a straight puppet was kinda weird. It's significantly more raw than other Gundam shows and I kinda miss the edge. Shakti digging for Karl and hers grave was fucked up. I'd give it a rewatch but the first 3 episodes are distracting as hell and the middle of the show is pretty snoozefest most of the time.

>>23602861
>>23602880
V Gundam was a weird entry, the villains are "feminists" and most characters who die are female lol.

>>23603177
First time seeing hypocrites in fiction?

>>23603186
I don't get what the insuiated insult was for.

>>23603197
It wasn't meant to be one (though I see now how it comes off that way). Just seen a lot of people legitimately confused when a character acts against their stated interests.

>>23603177
Feminist are villians though so it's actually pretty realistic about that.

Honestly it was a bit ahead of its time in that regard. Look at the way bitches are now.

I would fuck and cum inside of Shakti so hard bros.

>>23603207
Odelo!!

>>23603202
I really don't get the point of the villains in Victory desu. I mean I get "why" they're doing it but their end goal was pretty stupid. Like I don't even get the message at all (if there was one, yeah I know, you don't need one but still).
>Women are treated like shit
>what if we have a society where all womens are QUEENS
>ok
>WHAT IF WE USE PSYCHIC BRAIN POWERS TO MAKE EVERYONE INTO BABIES
lol wut

>>23603223
>their end goal was pretty stupid
>females
>not being stupid
Anon... most females ARE stupid.
I honestly could see foids doing that.
>men are evil and they all rape and its bad unless its Chad!
>lets make them all babies so we can do our obssessive maternal shit and molest all the baby brained chads and genocide anyone we don't think is attractive enough
There are crazy feminists that want boys to be chemical castrated until they prove they deserve to not be. The shit in Victory being a future setting really isn't that absurd and stupid from the shit they say and claim today.

>>23603255
you're getting into incel territory.

>>23603274
>bruh you have to support equality or you're an incel
Fuck off. Misogyny isn't the same thing as incel. Go back to wherever you came from then if you think sluts and whores having any social power is somehow beneficial.

>>23603223
That's mostly Kagatie using it as an opportunity to fuck up the Earth so the Jovians are in a better position. It doesn't really fit with Zanscare's ideology and gets kludged into it when he just wanted to do it anyway and Zanscare's a convenient tool. Happens a lot.

>>23603255
>he ignores the part where the turn all people into babies was a man's idea and the queen was lied to and gaslit to go along with it

>>23603283
>men don't ever simp for bitches and whores

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>>23603207
Same.
I'd fucking genocide all of Zanscare with my bare hands for even a small chance to retire to a small house by the sea with her as my wife (and a mother to me and my children) and live happily ever after with lots of fucking and sucking.

why is there not much hate fuck doujins with katejina?

>>23599249
it could have been the best if Usso wasn't a toddler with an ugly hair, and those 20+ episodes that didn't advance the plot weren't made.

it would have worked much better as a 26 episodes show

>>23599617
lel

>>23603223
The bald jovian faggot made up a fake feminist cult around Shakti's mom but only uses her as a figurehead. He just wants to mindrape earthnoids to purge all life from earth and colonize it with his followers. He's basically an old Scirocco (ie. A fake feminist who want to install puppet women as rulers they can manipulate behind the scenes)

>>23603714
I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding on your part when it comes to Scirocco and Fonse.

Fonse was a manipulator with little consideration for feminism or whatever, to him Maria was just a mean to an end and a messianic figure to use for his plan, her being a woman was purely collateral and a welcome extra for his manipulation, he was aware of the advantage of Maria's gender when it came to earning the good will of the people but that was about it.
Scirocco on the other hand earnestly believes in the superiority of women when it comes to handling human affairs, his interest in women like Haman or even Sara is totally genuine, but unlike Fonse Scirocco is also a gigachad who is completely and unrepentatnly high on his own Kool-Aid and believes that if there is one man out there who can help build up a matriarchal society with a male pillar it is him and only him.
In short, Fonse is a misanthrope with no sense of morality while Scirocco is a honest to god feminist cryptosimp who believes he's a gigachad due to newtype charm haxx, they might seem similar on the surface but they're not the same, Fonse is a despicable tyrant with no fundamental interest in the betterment of humanity while Scirocco is a super powered simp high on his own newtype farts.

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>>23603337
Abso-fucking-lutely based.
I will never have such a thing with a cute young brown girl like her and it makes me want to die. I would make so many babies with her.

>>23603337
>to retire to a small house by the sea with her
That would never happen because she would go back to Kassarelia instead

>>23603906
Not him but I wouldn't care where we lived together.

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>>23603881
>I will never have such a thing with a cute young brown girl like her and it makes me want to die
That makes two of us, anon
>mfw no Shakti wife
I'll never fucking recover

i'd rather hate fuck katejina sorry

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>>23603967
I've been just waiting to die for years. Maybe someday I'll at least get enoufh money and move to the south of SA and find a girl half my age to start a nice wholesome family with but even that I highly doubt. I'm already mid 30s. Life feels dead to me anymore.

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>>23603981
Same here anon, same here, 37 years old and no cute brown gf to show for, only two relationships with pasty white girls that didn't end well at all.
Our struggle is a tough one but I still can't lose hope.

>>23603986
I'm all out of hope. Just nihilistic emptiness and hate now.

man why are most of katejina stuff all masochistic stuff. she should have a lot of hate fucking or sadistic hentai wtf

>>23604033
>he doesn't know
somebody pass him butter.

>>23603967
>>23603906
>>23603881
This but Marbets instead of Shitki

Victory Gundam is… pretty crap. No characters had me invested, an overabundance of women being killed made me uncomfortable or annoyed, and most of the mech designs were pretty dull or stupid. A few good battles and designs don’t save you from 51 episodes of bad, or if you’re lucky, averageness. I gave Victory Gundam 1, 2, 2 and 3, but honestly, if you’re asking “Should I watch Victory Gundam” as an overall question? No. Hell no. I’m giving this series a 1 because no matter how much it improved from the awfulness it started in, it’s just not good. The whole series sees no improvement with its characters or plot, and that’s unforgivable, especially for 51 episodes. Listen to Tomino: DO NOT WATCH THIS.

>>23604834
>overabundance of women being killed made me uncomfortable or annoyed
Yeah cause women are SACRED! I too was very mad about the abusive patriarchal writing in the show.

>>23599249
I agree with this.

>>23599270
Why are the hands so fucking big?