Are you team hardwork or team genetics?
>>23599816I honestly like both. I know a lot of Westerners inevitably prefer the hard-working hero over "genetic nepobaby", as our societies always value meritocracy over inheritance, but both can be done in a good and a bad way for a story. After all, it is merely a narrative tool at the end of the day.
>>23599874>as our societies always value meritocracy over inheritanceMade me laugh out loud, good one.
The ability to work hard is also genetics.
>>23599874>our societies always value meritocracy over inheritance
>>23599816>okay let's see>Amurolol
>kamille>geneticsThis thread is fucking retarded.
>>23599816Team HardGenetics
>>23599816Suletta is both. She can use GUND because of her genetics but she's been piloting since a very young age.Mika is hard work, he got implants for the Alaya-Vijnana but that's not genetics.
>>23599816Mika is manufactured, not genetics. The AV implants turn you into a newtype and he has THREE of them.
>>23599816Don't understand how the hell Kamille or Mikazuki are GENETICS when they are looked at like fucking morons and both get wrecked by the end of their stories.
>>23599928It was explicitly told that Mika won genetic lottery. Usual human can barely have one alaya-vijnana implant. And that super-human had three of them.
>>23599816>Setsuna>Hard workSetsuna was a trash pilot until Ali shot him and he started evolving into an Innovator. Even the other characters noticed the change.
>>23599924Suletta has never been in any real combat situations. The schoolyard Gundam battles don’t count.
>Amuro isn't being a newtype part of genetics? He only sucked early on because he had 0 experience piloting a mobile suit.>Shinn and Kiraaren't they both the same? Coordinators are skilled by default. the whole Kira being the Ultimate one doesn't really matter.
>>23600031That's not a genetic lottery, that's degraded medical techniques and shitty back-alley doctors doing illegal surgeries on people with no human rights.
Setsuna was 100% genetics.
My least favorite is underdog asspuletics like Judau.
>>23600092Judau is 100% hard work.
>>23600031That's not the genetic lottery that's just being stupidly lucky and having a borderline suicidal mentality to even want to attempt 3 implants when one is more than sufficient.
>>23599874Dumbest shit I heard all day. Meritocracy is pure propaganda to keep the masses from revolting by fooling them into believing they can be the boot too if they just work hard enough.
>>23599925Most people can barely survive one AV implant, let alone 3. Clearly something about Murder Manlet's physiology makes him better at handling the implants than others.
>>23599816This is bait because Mikazuki is clearly not genetics. Practically the first thing you see him doing is stupid amounts of pull-ups and a perhaps slightly-too-horny view of his back muscles.
>>23600078>isn't being a newtype part of genetics?No, it's a spontaneous attribute that comes from living in space at a critical age.
>>23600149Right. And it's not that hard work can't earn you skills, it's that society doesn't necessarily recognize or value the skills that hard work develops.
>Kamille>Genetics???
>>23600209Not having Tem Ray's genetics is like winning the lottery.
>>23600154No he was just very lucky.
>>23600068So what exactly disqualifies terroristic plots? In both seasons?
>>23600209kamille is one of, if not the, strongest newtype in the ucunfortunately for him that starts becoming a problem later on when he's starts being able to feel everyone dying around him and cracks under the weight of it all
>>23599879>>23599903>>23600149I am ESL. What I meant to say was that our culture is more biased towards hard work, because self-made people are usually seen in better light than people who just inherit things.
>>23599816Genes
>>23600068But she has been piloting and using the Aerial for help on Mercury since she was very young. And her only entertainment was the mobile suit simulator.
>>23600068Suletta might not have been in any real combat situations, but so haven't many civilian test pilots or piloting instructors ever been. It doesn't mean that they are any less skilled. Even most fighter pilots in the majority of militaries world-wide have never been and never will enter real combat situations.
>>23599816Some of these definitely don't seem right.Amuro definitely benefits from being genetically a Newtype as well as being the son of Tem Ray.Shinn is able enter SEED mode and is genetically superior to even other Coordinators, even Durandal who is literally trying to dictate everyone's lives by their genetics picked him to be an ace pilot.
>>23600078>>23600725Shinn is in a weird spot. Although he has the Durandal picked SEED genetics, apparently one of the tie-in novels for Seed Freedom stated he sucked at MS combat simulations when he first started at the academy. He had to grind away all of his free time at the simulator to get to a point where he was decent.
>>23599928if tekkadan still had biscut, they wouldn't have accepted mackie's deal. However getting nuked and surviving it is no small feat.
>>23599816Kamille>AmuroSetsuna>ShinnHeero>KiraSuletta>Mikazuki
>>23599816Team dumb luck.
Except Amuro, all of them are mediocre pilots at best, completely carried by their overpowered units.Then again, most protagonists suffer this issue, if you want truly hardworking pilots you should browse the underdog/wingmen roster
>>23601207That's wrong. Amuro himself is nothing specialAmuro at his best would not beat Kira, Shinn or Setsuna, who are all FAR better pilots.Even Heero and Mika would give him a tough challenge.
>>23599924>>23600701Worth noting in the final fight she's explicitly got nothing going for her beyond the fact that using Calibarn turned up that high doesn't instantly kill her. Like others have said she's good because she's basically had nothing to do other than become a piloting autist until she was 17.
>>23600657Which is what you wrote, but we're laughing because it's blatantly untrue. I recommend finishing high school first before talking about how society works buddy.
>>23600657Culturally we might be more biased toward looking favorably on it but practically speaking inherited wealth and status are far more powerful. Even if you work hard enough and get lucky enough to become "new money" you will never be as important as the genetic reject who was born into daddy's billions, and the world will treat you as such.
>>23601292>>23601290I was talking about how people, like you and me, look at things. The fact that you reacted this strongly to this, tells me that you agree that people generally value hard work more. I was not talking about the de facto side of things in society. I was talking about general perceptions. You see it all the time, when some shonen hero is not actually a hard worker but has some magical inheritance that makes him strong. People dislike that, and prefer the hard work part.
