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Haven't been in /m/ for a while but damn this week was really bleak for Toei toku
>One of the Zeztz's suit actors broke his skull during practice, right after he got his first breakout role with Valen
>Nox's actor leaked plot details by accident
>It got revealed that thanks to inflation episodes are more expensive to make than before, in spite of how many suits and weapons Toei are reusing
>Gavv underperformed
>Gozyuger will be the last show (for now) because the franchise has been bleeding money since 2015 and them not being able to do multi media projects due to the Power Rangers license
>Sumino got fired because she got caught drinking despite being underage
>Gozyuger the Matsuura's first show, this announcement came out on his birthday, earlier this year his favorite suit actor Asai who played Gozyuwolf also had to quit the industry mid-show due to epilepsy, after he pushed him to come into this show even though he intended Daybreak Gotchard to be his last role, feels like a really sour note to end what's essentially being marketed as the last show in Super Sentai and Matsuura might take the fall for a lot of this
>Toei will now give legal classes to new actors due to this controversy with Sumino
>While not as bad as other asian countries, Japan still has a declining birth rate problem which affects kodomo shows
>While Toei still claims that Japanese kids are the focus, and Shirakura's and Tsukada's requests seem vague enough that staffers should still get enough creative freedom, Toei still seems desperately trying to expand toku outside of Japan which is a tactic that tends to have bad results in Japanese companies
How does /m/ feel about this?
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>>23611965
Stop shitposting for once in your faggot life
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>>23611965
>Nox's actor leaked plot details by accident
Nothing burger. Shit has been leaked before.
>It got revealed that thanks to inflation episodes are more expensive to make than before, in spite of how many suits and weapons Toei are reusing
>Gavv underperformed
Nothing burger
>Toei will now give legal classes to new actors due to this controversy with Sumino
Source?
>While not as bad as other asian countries, Japan still has a declining birth rate problem which affects kodomo shows
Nothing burger. It’s been like this for a decade
>While Toei still claims that Japanese kids are the focus, and Shirakura's and Tsukada's requests seem vague enough that staffers should still get enough creative freedom, Toei still seems desperately trying to expand toku outside of Japan which is a tactic that tends to have bad results in Japanese companies
Nothing burger and that’s just your schizo theory.
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>>23611965
Kamen Rider will be fine for the most part, even if the next 5 years flop (unlikely), they have enough stuff to be kept afloat. Kabuto anniversary movies, Gotchard X Gavv special, and whatever mystery project led them to skip a Winter movie last year.
Sentai is absolutely fucked for the next couple of years, but will find a way to keep itself alive in some shape or form after they know what the fuck to do.
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>>23611965
You faggots gossip more about toku than women gossip about each other.
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>>23612173
That's this whole goddamn website and it has been for years now.
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>>23612086
>Nothing burger. Shit has been leaked before.
But almost never by the actors, if it's from them then it's usually really minor, but you're right that this doesn't really matter
>Nothing burger
How is the first thing not a nothing burger? It means retools will become more common unless they up the yearly budget increasing risk. Gavv underperforming indeed doesn't matter that much because underperforming isn't the same as being a financial failure, every season since Den-O has been a financial success, it could mean Takebe getting demoted since the last season that underperformed, Revice, had Mochizuki demoted but even that is extremely unlikely because Takebe is the oldest non-promoted producer at the moment.
>Source?
https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2417447/full/
But again it's standard procedure and casting is still a case by case basis so it probably doesn't matter, it's just the fear of the possibility that Toei will give stricter guidelines for casting in the future
>Nothing burger. It’s been like this for a decade
Fair
>Schizo Theory
It happened to almost every video game company that opened an US branch, but admittedly it probably won't matter because of the recent laws the new prime minister passed. Really the only problem this could bring would be some future producers trying to appeal hard to the west in bad ways, but really I think only Minato might do that and even that I think is unlikely
>>23612105
They have the Boukenger movie at least
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>heavily edited episode
>no preview for next week
>no information on official sites
>concert announcement is half-baked
Cutting the actress genuinely has caused more problems for Toei than the actress herself.
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>>23611965
>Toei will now give legal classes to new actors due to this controversy with Sumino
You would think their talent agencies are already in charge of telling them not to do stupid shit.
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>>23612086
>Nothing burger. It’s been like this for a decade
Not to mention the fact that it’s actually been going back up over the last few years *Thankfully* so we can get over this silly meme, just added my two cents for the comment. Regardless what’s up with toei its really all just a nothing burger and the state of rider and sentai isn’t as grim as op’s thinks, in fact I’m quite excited to see what they’re cooking for the next revamped “sentai” installment
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Just don't hire minors for hero roles, ever. Make them all adults permanently to avoid shit like this.
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>>23612405
>minor
She's 19 isn't she?
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> Sumino got fired because she got caught drinking despite being underage

Being 19 when the drinking age in Japan is 20 doesn't sound like a big deal to me. Is it one of those cultural things where this is a red line? Or did she get extremely shitfaced to point where it was scandal-worthy?
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>>23612430
And you can't drink or smoke until 20 in Japan.

>>23612435
Keep in mind that she got into the whole infidelity scandal before that, so they probably told her to not fuck up anymore. Some places even reported that she was probably going to get dropped after the show ended and then this happened.
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>>23612435
You are considered a dumbass kid till you turn 20.
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>>23612435
There were rumors just before that she had an affair with the suit actor of the red ranger, these rumors were never proven to be true and most likely aren't but Toei probably considered her underage drinking a second strike
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>>23612435
Consider how in Japan actors who are found doing things like taking drugs or cheating on their spouses get blacklisted unless they're the biggest stars ever whereas in the West it's a surprise if even a minor celebrity is actually a normal non-degenerate person.
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>>23612460
>Keep in mind that she got into the whole infidelity scandal before that

So she whored around before that, too? Infidelity is an absolute career killer in Japan (which is ironic, given how rampant infidelity is in Japan). The drinking incident then might be just be the cherry on the shit sundae.
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>>23612489
>which is ironic, given how rampant infidelity is in Japan
That sounds entirely in line with how they handle literally every issue in Japanese society.
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>>23611965
>>Sumino got fired because she got caught drinking despite being underage
She got fired for fucking Gozyu Wolf's suit actor.
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>>23612460
That she has two scandals under her belt before even 20 years old is a feat.
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>>23612467
Nah, I think it's more that Toei used the underage drinking as a cleaner way to kick her out officially. The adultery story would be much more damaging for the brand.
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>>23611965
bad
Irrelevant
Irrelevant unless you are a secondary crying abour kitbashing
Underperformed by how much?
their own fault for never dealing with PR, they had years to do this, and still pushing sentai when it was clear they wouldn't get gokaigers numbers again
Her fault and notbing new in the industry globally, if anything is a wake up call for het that she fucked up big
what?
Again her own fsult and honestly GOOD
This affects thw whole country and not just the shows really
This is and will always be a retarded move ESPECIALLY if it affects the show just to cather to the scum of the earth, fake fans and secondaries that can't accept that the cultural differences of the shows are what make them unique, special and entertaining
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>>23612489
>which is ironic, given how rampant infidelity is in Japan
exaggerated
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>>23612435
The underage drinking is very clearly just an easy front for the actual reason of the infidelity scandal
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>>23612368
They aren't, which is why this happened in the first place. Alot of actors in response to the incident were tweeting that talent agencies barely try to take care and educate their actors anymore
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>>23612218
They literally only demote people after a season was disliked.
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>>23612639
>their own fault for never dealing with PR, they had years to do this

There's absolutely nothing they can do on that end. The contract completely fucks them over and is ironclad.
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>>23612916
But Lupinranger wasn't disliked in Japan, it even changed how the Japanese celebrate Christmas
But regardless Utsunomiya got demoted because not only was the show unpopular with children like King-Ohger but the show was also a massive commercial failure
Point is that because Gozyuger is a commercial failure like every season since Ninninger and a controversial show like Revice, Matsuura could get demoted for this unless Shirakura vouches for him or something
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>>23612911
Not that they should need to tell someone not to fuck a married man more than twice her age nor engage in underage drinking lol
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>>23613346
>it even changed how the Japanese celebrate Christmas
Kek it what?
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>>23613354
Japanese Christmas dinners used to be dominated by KFC due to a scam that their marketing team did causing the nips to believe that eating fried chicken on Christmas is a worldwide custom
That custom still prevails but now they also eat Salmon due to the Christmas motw becoming a meme
LuPat is really popular in Japan, even disregarding that Lupin X ranks high on polls and the show is fondly remembered there by fujos, which is something I find insane since the show sucks and Lupin X is personally the worst extra ranger in the whole franchise but the point still stands that Utsunomiya got demoted after LuPat in spite of its popularity
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>>23612312
>Cutting the actress genuinely has caused more problems for Toei than the actress herself.

Exactly this. Japanese purity culture is beyond retarded. Girl takes a couple of drinks three whole months before she's legally able to and for that they remove a main character requiring weeks of reshoots and potentially a rewrite of the show's story, probably needing a clip show or two in the near future to give them time to reshuffle everything.

A ton of work they could have avoided if they'd just made a tweet or something saying "We talked to Maya and she won't do it again" and then moved on with the damn show. Stupid as hell.
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>>23613366
>That custom still prevails but now they also eat Salmon due to the Christmas motw becoming a meme
It started out as a campaign from the Japanese government because they wanted to promote the sales of local salmon.
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>>23613388
>Girl takes a couple of drinks
And also fucks another member of the production that is married.
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>>23613346
>Gozyuger is a commercial failure like every season since Ninninger

Shout out the ToQgers, the last profitable sentai team ever.

Trains and rainbows, that's the key to success.
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>>23613346
Matsuura's in serious trouble because he pushed for Asai against the advice of literally everyone including Asai himself that his Epilepsy meant he couldn't do a lead suit actor role anymore and twisted his arm to do it, which led to Asai fucking Maya which lead to them having to scramble to salvage the show and might mean they can't ever rerelease it now. And to top it off it made Asai's epilepsy worse so he had to leave the show anyway meaning his stupid decision destroyed one guys health, ended Maya's career completely fucked over the final Super Sentai in the 11th hour and for zero gain. That's like suicide to regain your honor level of failure
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>>23613414
>might mean they can't ever rerelease it now.
wait why?
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>>23613445
If they have to unperson her from the show it means they can't show the previous episodes and the movie. Not without heavy edits to remove her some of which will be impossible in episodes she's heavily featured in. They already took down all the official uploads of the episodes from TTFC
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>>23613402
It's a shame Kobayashi isn't coming back for 40+ episode toku anymore, a season by her could have easily saved Sentai.
I really have to wonder what exactly went wrong from Ninninger to Ryusoulger, it felt like every show had creative differences leading to them being mixed bag. I would have said this change happened because Hikasa became president mid-ToQger but presidents aren't that involved from my understanding.
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>>23613399
Oh...oh yeah, that's actually pretty bad. Women amirite fellas?
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>>23613399
If that was the case the fault would go solely on him, the reason why she's also getting the blame is because she has a boyfriend meaning that she cheated with a married man and drank alcohol while underage
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>>23613366
>LuPat is really popular in Japan
>which is something I find insane

It had a cool-ass gimmick - two rival teams. As well as two red rangers. Yeah, Timeranger did that first, but Timefire was a 6th ranger. LupinRed and PatoRed were both main reds fighting each other. Super Sentai can be accused of being stale, but LuPat was anything but stale despite its issues.
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>>23613686
lupat's motw are some of the stalest in the franchise
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>>23611965
The only worrying thing is that they're trying to expand overseas.
The rest is only an issue if you're a shareholder at Toei/Bandai or something.
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>>23612819
Its baffling how many people think it was the drinking.
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>>23613755
Because the infidelity thing is technically not an 'official' news story, it was released in a tabloid so its easier to ignore for people even though that is very clearly a big issue. The underage drinking was officially reported and apologized for by the actress, so people can easily latch on to that
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>>23612191
I know but I had to say something. I remember when Tommy killed himself and we had people saying he did it because he fucked his step daughter and got her pregnant and someone lining up the way the blue ranger stood up to prove he was gay. Even though we know he is gay.

On second thought this is somehow better...fucking pathetic.
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Who cares? I like toku but it's Japan's problem. The West has problems with woke killing movies
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>>23614136
Weaboos and other Japanophiles care more about Japanese affairs than Japanese themselves.

This is a nothing burger. Tokusatsu is a cultural staple for decades. If it ends, then it'll be on Japan's terms. If it revamps itself, good for them.
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>>23613346
>it even changed how the Japanese celebrate Christmas
This has always been a meme, I can't believe people still fall for it. Lupat was just joking about a movement that had been going on.
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Who goddamn fucking cares
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Super Sentai as a brand has been bleeding money for years with the last one that wasn't a mediocre flop being over a decade ago. Ultraman has started bleeding money again as well with the last handful of seasons being massive failures. Reiwa Kamen Rider has been fuckup after fuckup. Tokusatsu just isn't a viable genre anymore especially with Japan's birthrates plummeting off a cliff.
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>>23614273
>Reiwa Kamen Rider has been fuckup after fuckup
The only confirmed flop so far is Gavv, everything else has done just fine or great like usual.
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>>23613686
>Super Sentai can be accused of being stale, but LuPat was anything but stale
You haven't watched LuPat
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>>23613482
>I would have said this change happened because Hikasa became president mid-ToQger but presidents aren't that involved from my understanding.

I'd argue he does bear some responsibility for a lack of leadership in charting the course after a string of failed shows starting with Ninninger. Not that it absolves Takebe, Utsunomiya, Mochizuki and TakaP for making these shows. But somebody in the executive chair has to take responsibility for all these failed attempts to right the ship and not providing enough guidance. Or in the case of Takebe, letting her get another chance to wreck Super Sentai when Bandai was already pissed off with Gobusters for a bad year.
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It’s amazing how there’s multiple threads regarding this (including a dumb /pol/bait thing related to saban) yet I don’t honestly care because I knew this months beforehand. Look I get it, sentai’s having a long overdue revamp but why are anon’s acting so apocalyptic about it?
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>>23614277
The Rider shows are doing okay financially, but you can't deny most of the Reiwa Rider shows have been weaksauce suffering from all sorts of bts creative problems. If anything, Sentai just might be further along in its decline compared to Rider.
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>>23614277
Revice underperformed too, but keep in mind that even with those two underperforming they still earned more money than they spent so Kamen Rider hasn't started bleeding money yet, the last show that bled money was Kabuto so Kamen Rider is still a financially viable franchise even though every show since Zi-O has been mixed bag with the exception of kinda Saber and Gavv.

>>23614273
That's a retarded take, the genre is still profitable, Kamen Rider proofs that. The problem with Sentai are the toys being obscenely shit and with Ultraman its new owner forcing the franchise to go stale since Ginga, even the Tsubarayas hate nu-Ultraman and wrote a book called "Ultraman is Weeping".

>>23614306
Because the currently airing show is having licensing issues towards the likeness of an actor, and toku episodes are more expensive to make now.
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>>23614273
You’re stupid
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>>23614309
/krg/ should not be a barometer for the state of Rider. It's doing fine.
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>>23614313
>the genre is still profitable
It's not.
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>>23614319
>It's doing fine.
No, it is not.
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>>23614313
That book you mentioned aged extremely poorly btw and was written by if I’m not mistaken one of the black sheep members of the family. Especially that section mentioned on how it could never take off in places like the states, cut to the past few years such as anime expo and especially this year where he appeared at a MLB baseball game and a upcoming live stage show in New Jersey.
>>23614323
>>23614326
I can tell your the same doomer as>>23614273 and very possibly op yourself. STFU you’ve been proven wrong multiple times Even birth rates are doing better then previously so please stop obsessing over that or embarrassing yourself before the Japanese start laughing at you
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>>23614309
>most of the Reiwa Rider shows
All of them
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>>23614136
and Japan has problems like plagiarizing plots, like for example My Hero Academia is X-Men as a manga and Kaiju No. 8 is an Ultraman rip-off, also a lot of recent anime, manga and light novels are Isekai, there is an Isekai plague in Japan!. both Japan and the West have problems.
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>>23614326
Your own personal qualms do not align with financial reality
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>>23614354
Japanese entertainment is at least fun. Not saying better but I'm tired of remakes, woke, and practically zero effort from Hollywood, comics, etc.

I hate isekai barring Dunbine, Rayearth, Escaflowne and the Ramune series. But it'll run its course.
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>>23614306
Everything good is dying.
Slop is being pushed out more and more by companies and people are accepting it.
The future is grim, and with each passing day it somehow gets worse.
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>>23614371
Meh there's decades of toku, US and British shows/movies, comics and Manga. I'm just watching and reading older stuff that was before my time.
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>>23614309
It's only been 6 years and there's already 3 fan favorite shows in Reiwa.
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>>23614313
>Revice underperformed too
It didn't, Color literally came out to say that Bandai didn't lose money on it like many had claimed.
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>>23614408
I literally said they didn't lose money, neither did Gavv
But both shows earned below expectations
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>>23614329
Why did Gavv sell so poorly? Bandai and shops would always say the Gochizo would sell out
I know Bandai said tariffs were the reason both Gozyuger and Gavv sold worse in a quarter but I feel like that can't be the sole reason, I mean the show sold worse than most of Heisei phase 2
Another weird thing is that despite Gavv releasing about the same amount of toys as usual, a lot of them hardly got any promotion in the show and it seemed like Bandai had problems restocking Gochizo, and now Zeztz seems to be releasing less toys than usual and selling the Zeztz driver at a loss
The show did really well critically in Japan but not so in China despite being the first show to release there simultaneously from my understanding
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>Gozyuger is comfirmed to last at most up to February 21st
>Still no trademark for the first Universe Hero show
Why? Does this mean we will stop getting public trademarks? I thought they legally had to
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>>23614428
At least it's still 22 billion compared to Drive and Ghost in the past decade.
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>>23614428
>Bandai and shops would always say the Gochizo would sell out
Because Bandai understocked the stores.
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>>23614299
>letting her get another chance
It makes sense once you consider that at the time, OOO was the best selling Rider ever made and Gaim also sold extremely well, so they probably thought it would be OK to giver another chance
>TakaP
Ryusoulger wasn't his fault although Ghost and Saber are, Ryusoulger was Maruyama's fault
Honestly it's so weird that Maruyama replaced Hikasa as the president during King-Ohger and Takahashi-P is now part of the board of directors
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>>23614428
>Why did Gavv sell so poorly?
People don't like kiddy shit in rider.
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>>23614458
Taka-P learning to manage his writers is why Saber didn't end up like Ghost.
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>>23614373
That's what I was implying.
There is no hope for the future so we just keep looking back to the past, thus making the future worse.
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Tokusatsu as a genre is dying. Not a single production that falls under the umbrella has been successful in years.
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>>23613482
>It's a shame Kobayashi isn't coming back for 40+ episode toku anymore
I miss her. But I understand it's easier proofreading Jojo's Bizzare Boukens for a paycheck.
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>>23614458
Worse for Hikasa since Maruyama and Hikasa go way back to like to the end days of Metal Heroes with Kabutack and Robotack.
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>>23614405
Name them
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>>23614469
Shin Prologue is never getting an official sequel
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>>23614483
>Not a single production that falls under the umbrella has been successful in years
Kamen Rider is more successful than ever.
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>>23614470
More like because he knew Fukuda couldn't deliver on doing a show by himself and they had to crowdsource with Uchida/Hasegawa/Mouri. Having a team of writers is probably a better idea for Reiwa Rider than someone like Inoue or Takahashi writing the whole thing.
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>>23614428
>Why did Gavv sell so poorly?
not enough sachika and not making her a rider
now for real i think the driver looked kind of fugly and that hurt the sales a bit
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>>23614495
Zero-One, Geats and Gavv.
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>>23614499
>More like because he knew Fukuda couldn't deliver on doing a show by himself and they had to crowdsource with Uchida/Hasegawa/Mouri
AKA managing his writers.
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>>23614428
>Why did Gavv sell so poorly?
Its main Rider Trio didn't have a female member.
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>>23614428
Who knows for sure considering the crap that tops the charts, but the show was too gay, had nothing interesting happening for most of the time, shit villains, nothingburger of a tertiary, secondary that deescalates any drama, heroine that might as well not exist after Q1, cheap foam weapons...
>despite Gavv releasing about the same amount of toys as usual, a lot of them hardly got any promotion in the show
Gavv did what every other Reiwa show did with it's throwaway Q1 forms and lazy kitbashes in order to sell more toys.
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>>23614514
>the show was too gay
Being gay brings in money, fujos are a secondary audience of the franchise.
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>>23614495
Fuuto Tantei, Black Sun and Tojima.
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>>23614519
Yeah pandering even harder to fujoshits really worked for Gavv lmao
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>>23614523
>Black Sun
Japan actually liked that shit?

I loved the costume designs but the heavy-handed BLM analogies to Kaijin being innocents pissed me off. Faiz did a better job with the Orphenochs than Black Sun did.
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>>23614470
But that's irrelevant, he's still the one who reseted Ghost's setting 3 times out of fear of soccer moms and the one who screwed Saber's Q1 due to taking extreme measures to combat Covid's influence on the show
His incompetence is the direct cause of the biggest problems of both shows
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>>23614546
That's the least of Black Sun's problems, the biggest problem of the show is it's ending making the whole show feel like a waste of time, also no Japan is mostly indifferent to it but I don't know if its because of its content, the ending or it being an Amazon exclusive.

>>23614495
Fuuto Tantei, Gavv, Shin Kamen Rider TV Edit

>>23614428
>Why did Gavv sell so poorly?
Understocking and tariffs. The gochizo would always sell out and we're getting to of PB toys like Geats because the toys were popular, the problem is that for whatever reason Bandai heavily undersupplied and adults weren't that into Gavv's toys because it felt like a rethread of Build. Tokuota always tend to appreciate Kamen Rider toys because of their creativity but Gavv's toys are stale.

>>23614499
You talk as if most shows didn't have a writer team but I know that's not your point. But if Takahashi knew how Fukuda operated thanks to Ghost why choose him again? And it's still Takahashi's fault that both shows had to reshoot early on. Either way back to the anon's original point, Ryusoulger's problems which was this show being the single most uncreative Sentai season ever made is Maruyama's fault, the writer wanted the whole show to be like the final arc and Takahashi was to one who got Kami to be the chief director.
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>>23614549
>But that's irrelevant, he's still the one who reseted Ghost's setting 3 times out of fear of soccer moms
How is that relevant to Saber? I was already admitting that Ghost was mismanaged.
>the one who screwed Saber's Q1 due to taking extreme measures to combat Covid's influence on the show
It was literally impossible for them to carry out the original plan for the show at that point. You have people like Shibasaki saying they couldn't get as many guest actors as they wanted because of the Corona restrictions without ever implying that it was Taka-P's fault, just general restrictions that eased up by the time they started filming Revice. The idea of a road trip style of show had to be dropped again during Revice because the conditions were still not good enough at that point. And there's the rumors that the filming for Saber was a mess at the start because they couldn't secure locations due to the restrictions. The green screen sets weren't a thing unique to Saber either, Zenkaiger also did it.

The show's situation was absolutely fucked and it HAD to be reworked regardless of Taka-P's wishes. I don't know why dumbasses like you keep insisting that he did all of this on a whim. It's a miracle that they managed to steer this show in a good direction when all their plans got screwed right in the middle of pre-production.
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>>23614523
All of them are trash
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>The two best Reiwa series are the ones that sold the worst
Just goes to show that sales aren't everything.
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>>23614580
>The two best Reiwa series are the ones that sold the worst
No, Zero-One has the best Reiwa sales.
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>>23614580
saber is not the best anyting, it's still bad and one of the worst.
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>>23614557
>You talk as if most shows didn't have a writer team
Most shows don't have a team of writers that function like Saber's did. Most shows have an established head writer who will write more episodes than anybody else and dictate the how the overall story will pan out, while the others work as sub-writers that usually do scripts for the less important episodes. The way Hasegawa describes it, every writer in Saber was working together and contributing to the main story (to the point Hasegawa claims there wasn't a sole head writer despite Fukuda officially having that position), which I guess is how they managed to bring a new writer like Uchida after the halfway point and let him handle big arc conclusions for his first two sets of episodes. This level of collaboration went as far as Fukuda reintegrating a line from one of Uchida's scripts that got cut during filming due to time restraints into his last episode on the show. Unlike other shows, they rotated script writers every two episodes, and that's how Mouri and Hasegawa have around the same amount of writing credits as Fukuda does.
>And it's still Takahashi's fault that both shows had to reshoot early on
It isn't his fault that they had to scramble in order to rework the show. The original idea of the show involved filming in a bunch of locations including crowded sites like the Shibuya Crossing. They obviously had to scrap that when Covid struck.
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>>23614594
Go back to /a/, Duel.
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>>23614586
>new Gozyuger episode on the cat site?
The didn't release it like they normally do because of the editing so there is only the broadcast rip.
>and Zezt
On Youtube.
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>>23614580
>two best reiwa series
geats didn't sold like shit and gavv was mostly bandai being retarded
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>>23614599
Damn it, fucking hate change. Change is usually never good. ARGHHHH. Oh well, it can't be helped.
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>>23614594
TRUKE
reminder saber ranked like shit in the anniversary poll
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>>23614428
Doesn't matter how good the show is, how awesome the characters are, or how badass the action is if the toys are not good. And frankly, the Gavv toyline was lacking. The Gochizos are cute, but not that cute to get them all. Shoma's driver was an inspired idea, but the jingles are terrible, and its design was too weird for kids. While the merch for Hanto, Lakia, and Bitter Gavv's stuff sucked balls.
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>>23614458
>so they probably thought it would be OK to giver another chance

And they were right, because ToQger is a classic and also the final time Super Sentai ever made actual money.

Though I doubt they'll ever be able to lure her back to the fold.
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>>23614594
>>23614602
>>23614604
Nice samefagging.
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Gozyuger is going to be weird with one of the members conspicuously missing without explanation right in the middle of the show.
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>>23614615
I hope it's so weird that it turns into kinoko.
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>>23614613
Cope
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>>23614438
They legally have to release trademarks, but it's possible that the first Universe Hero show will not immediately replace Gozyuger. They might fill the time slot with something else for a while if the new show isn't ready yet. Toei might even kill a few months with remastered repeats like they did with One Piece.
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Sentai mecha being shit for a while is a big factory in why it failed.
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>>23614619
We know you used your phone for the other two posts.
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>>23614622
Did you just manufacture a pun
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>>23614625
You really are a paranoid shitposter.
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>>23614627
What pun?
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>>23614576
>Calling Fuuto Tantei trash
Go step on a Lego.
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>>23614632
I know you're too much of a coward to post your screencaps for the other posts because it would out you as the samefagging shitposter you are.
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>>23614636
Didn't make the other two posts, so I don't have screencaps for them.
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>>23614635
It is trash. The only thing that came from it is the tits of the new girl.
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>>23614622
Not suprising, sentai robots have been on the decline since bokenger.
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>>23614599
>On Youtube.
I don't watch shows in 480p.
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>>23614638
>He can't enjoy more detective adventures with W
Tokime was just a bonus
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>>23614586
>>23614599
Zeztz is on the episode thread on mega, but if you don't mind watching it in Spanish you can load the Spanish subs into the HD raws
Wish someone had done the same for the English subs, alas can't complain since I'm too lazy to do it myself
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>>23614609
Read the posts properly, they're talking about Takebe not Kobayashi
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>>23614646
W was shit and more of it is just more shit
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>>23614620
The week after Gozyuger ends we're getting a cop movie, it's unknown if said cop movie is a toku or related to Sentai in any way, after that it's anyone's guess since we still don't have confirmation if Universe Heroes will release on TV-Asahi, but it should still release around March because we have minipla listings for the show
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>>23614650
W isn't shit, but it is vastly overrated.
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>>23614653
Because it's shit
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>>23614650
I see now, you just have awful taste, carry on with your seethe.
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>>23614546
Pretty much any show did anything better than BS did.
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>>23614653
I agree with it being overrated, but no one can deny it being one of the more successful Late Heisei Riders. W getting a manga/anime, which led to it getting into SRW, is a testament to that.

>>23614654
Maybe you can give a reason other than, "I don't like it".
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God you people are insufferable.
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>>23614677
Everyone in the thread or specific anons?
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>>23614519
Apparently not. Fuju housewives might cream at the gay overtones but if they're not buying the toys for their kids (or don't have kids) then it's not helping sales
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>>23614698
There's merch for fujos like photobooks, calendars and acrylic stands.
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>>23614662
It's shit because I think it's shit and my opinion is a million times worth any of the rest of you pond scum plebs. I am the main character not you
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>>23614700
Those are irrelveant. If the DX toyline isn't selling, it's considered a failure regardless of how much other stuff sells. Bandai isn't making that and Bandai is the one footing the bill.
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>>23614702
Bandai makes a good chunk of the character merch, including the acrylic stands, jewelry and apparel items.
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>>23614701
Based retard, never change.
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>>23614700
The DX line is king. It's like Gunpla with a Gundam show. If the plastic isn't selling they're not happy no matter how much other character merch is
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>>23614723
Yeah, Toei was celebrating Kingohger's success with character merch, not Bandai. And at the end of the day, Bandai is the one that controls this partnership.
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>>23614704
The whole point is that those things are supposed to be a BONUS. Extra. A side-hustle.
If they start losing themselves into the sauce, go hard on the fujopandering, start forgetting about the kiddies, about the toys, about actually making a good show that the kiddies like, because kids believe it or not are not retarded and can tell when something's "off", then the show will fail, because no matter how many sides there are it still is not a main course.
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>>23611965
Kamen Rider really just needs their new producers to get more experience so that they can get better writers or at least manage their writers better.
Ever since Zero-One, Kamen Rider's action improved drastically and Kamen Rider still keeps doing experimental settings and concepts even if Gotchard and Saber settings weren't that. interesting due to their execution, and even then Saber still had some of the most detailed world-building in the franchise to compensatem
Like Gavv had arguably the best action direction in the franchise and Zeztz is quickly becoming on the shows in term of visual direction.
I feel that now that Yanaka and Kuji have experience, and the high chances of getting Daiki Koide to produce a show, the future of Rider seems as bright as it was back during the late Heisei. So far the only risky choices are Takebe and Minato plus Takijima who has yet to proof herself, but when it comes to specials she at least has proven herself better than Minato and really as long as Minato understand the power that his position holds he could probably fare well as a producer if given another chance, hopefully returning to vice producer makes him understand his role better again.

With Universe Heroes they really need to improve the toys over how it was with Sentai, and also release better premium toys for tokuota since they pretty much just do memorials and model kits. When it comes to premium Mecha Bandai only does Power Rangers ones. I'm really worried that the Sumino fiasco might affect the success of other Sentai or "Sentai" projects like whatever that cop movie is, the TTFC special that features the kid design that win the competition and the Boukenger 20th anniversary.
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>>23614818
Nvm they just comfirmed that the cop movie that will air after Gozyuger ends is a Metal Hero movie.
They also gave a really vague message about Sentai switching channels or to a streaming platform but I don't know if they mean future Super Sentai projects or Universe Heroes.
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>>23614698
By this point I think fujo money is a meme.
They can't fund shit on their own, always have to latch onto something made for another demographic.
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>>23614838
Fujo money isn't a meme when it comes to Gundam, it was statically proven that a lot of fujo spend money on Gundam and that a lot of housewives started tuning into toku once they started having handsome protagonists improving ratings.
But due to Sentai's team nature fujos buy stuff related to a single member rather than team toys, it's why despite LuPat being popular enough to fill multiple stage shows and be looked back upon fondly it still sold like absolute dogshit.
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>>23614826
Is this Reiwa Gavan a mini-series? I find it so weird that they just finished casting when this is supposed to start on February. They used the term movie before but I assume that was a miscommunication because it makes no sense for a movie to take a 24-minutes slot.
Either way shouldn't this mean we'll go back to having 3 toku? Kamen Rider, Gavan and Universe Heroes? Like sure Gavan will probably be extremely cheaply made but Zeztz and Universe Heroes should have more budget than usual, if both Gavan and Universe Heroes get competent writing teams then this might be a blessing in disguise.
Although it worries me that this Gavan has no toy listing yet.
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>>23614847
Difference being that the Gundam fujos also buy the fucking plastic.
Housewives aren't buying the fucking plastic they're just shitposting on twitter and buying apparel and acrylics.
That's the key difference here. Toku fujos and yumejos are NEVER gonna double dip. Treating them as the main audience will always be a recipe for disaster.
It's the same goddamn meme as "we want the wider audience" and "let's pander to china and india think of the potential gorillion quintillion audience" that ALWAYS fall flat.
Aim to you main audience, always, and if you end up with a peripheral audience, throw them a bone, but NEVER forget what the main audience is.
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22.1 Billion Yen are not bad sales numbers.
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>>23614871
Please learn to read the thread Gavv and Revice earned below the stock holder expectations, that doesn't mean it sold poorly nor that they gained less money than they spent
Every show since Den-O has been a financial success
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>>23614638
I dont agree that it is trash but they should have made a show for a different series especially if they were going to censor it
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>>23614871
They are. It was a flop season.
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>>23614893
In its defense, most Kamen Rider manga is pretty edgy compared to their toku versions, so it would get censored regardless of what gets adapted.
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>>23614871
>>23614902
Why bother posting a cropped image of the table when it was already posted in this thread and you just replied with the same shit that has already been said in the thread again?
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>>23614893
The censorship improved the anime.
Manga didn't need to start with the LOOK TITS LOOK GORE WE FOR ADULTS NAO crap.
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>>23614847
>it was statically proven that a lot of fujo spend money on Gundam
Where?
>lot of housewives started tuning into toku once they started having handsome protagonists improving ratings
Not only housewives =/= fujos, but if you're talking about the Odagiri effect, that was made up. Casting handsome men as leads has been a thing for decades, what changed is what is considered a handsome man.
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>>23614932
It didn't improve the anime, the anime is better because the anime art style improved drastically over the original manga art and the staff's passion, same with Toujima.

>>23614893
It really depends on where and when they air it, Amazons didn't have to censor their violence once it eventually reached TV for example. But I don't know if Fuuto PI was a case of channel censorship or a producer censoring the show in order for the anime also be able to release on youtube like how it was with Jigoku Sensei Nube and 2.5d seduction.
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>>23614650
W is overrated and is just okay, but Fuuto PI S1 was actually pretty good
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>>23614826
The streaming I think is for old series, not new ones
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>>23614864
>Toku fujos and yumejos are NEVER gonna double dip
There's a bunch of childless women of varying ages that buy the toys to make shrines and show support for their Oshis.
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>>23612218
>since the last season that underperformed, Revice, had Mochizuki demoted
Wasn't that more to do with the production trouble than the season underperforming?
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>>23615019
Wrong it was shit
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>>23615102
There was no official statement for his demotion so admittedly we don't know, anon is just guessing, we only know about his following demotion which was due to the stage show he did with Kinoshita after Revice being really controversial
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>>23614483
Sentai is the only one of the big four (Rider, Ultra, Godzilla) to not have at least one huge success in Reiwa. Rider has been outselling Sentai's highest selling season literally every single year.
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It's sad to see Sentai failing this hard since it reinforces the belief that kids don't care about mecha anymore.
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>>23615333
And yet other mecha is selling.
Maybe Sentai is just shit?
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>>23615333
A huge part of why Sentai fell is that Shinkalion came out the same year as LuPat and became an overwhelming smash hit. Shinkalion toys are miles ahead of anything that Sentai's done short of Onitaijin and KingOhger. Kids want good toys, Takara gave it to them, and now they don't want Sentai's crappy toylines anymore.
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>>23615333
Other kodomo mecha are successful, mecha aren't as popular as the 90s/00s but Sentai's decline is mostly because of the toys being bad rather than their mecha designs or their entertainment value
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>>23615333
Articulation is king and pretty much every other rival toylines has that and the kids love it yet Bandai refuses to do the same for Sentai, only allowing two years of mechs with articulation and then going back to bricks the next year afterwards.
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Preview of Gozyuger's episode 38: https://files.catbox.moe/g45hrg.mp4
It's an extreme shame that this version will essentially become lost media, hopefully some rogue employee if a streaming platform leaks the unedited last quarter
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>>23615390
You keep bringing up Shinkalion in these threads but at the time of LuPat they were still making gimmicky bricks like pic. Can't you use Transformers, or choose a more recent time period for comparison? Like Shinkalion CW vs Boonboomger.
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>>23615043
Damn they have no taste.
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Masayuki Gotoh (the designer of just about every modern Ultraman suit) posted a Gavan fan art now of all times
I wonder if he's simply able to draw this quickly or if he's actually involved in the show
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>>23615333
It's true though. At least for giant mecha.
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>>23615437
That one was from back when there was no Shinkalion anime yet, it's from 2015 and predates LuPat by a few years. Pic related is the one from the line they created when the first anime series came out.
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>>23615463
That's not a Sakura shrine, anon.
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>>23615494
Same difference, if you inspect it the joints are the same, it's only a cosmetic upgrade. They only added hip articulation with the DXS series in 2020 long after the OG anime was over.
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>>23615498
>if you inspect it the joints are the same, it's only a cosmetic upgrade.
Wow, you're both blind and retarded.
https://youtu.be/sxhz6xrUIhE?si=Wj8obAld9Pqs6Kr0
https://youtu.be/RZLuB1REQxk?si=LXoBRpjqbkEEDNXO

Not to mention, the original DXS toys already show more range of articulatiom than the average Sentai robo.
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I really hope the Sumimo shitshow doesn't discourage Matsuura and Akiko.
While they have a lot of faults, they still manage to make most of the show entertaining for me, had good ideas and seemed legitimately passionate, it really is a shame that their first show had to be screwed this hard by issues beyond their control and that there's a chance that the show will only be viewable via piracy now.

>>23615484
Looks cool but I think it's just coincidental fanart rather than him being involved. I want to be excited fir this Gavan reboot but it will probably have Kiramager-tier budget, maybe less. I just hope they're able to compensate with a good writer, but I cannot even begin to imagine who'll produce this show.
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>>23615513
I don't need videos when I already have the toys. Shinkalion was a hit but it was due to it being trains not the toys, just like Toqger. Sorry that real life doesn't agree the narrative you're trying to spin, lil' bro.
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>>23615531
nta but
>no evidence
you really suck at proving your point when anon literally posted video examples proving your point wrong, although trains are definitely part of the reason why it sold well but zoids and shinkalion toys are leagues better than sentai in general
on an unrelated note I'm surprised that the first show actually turned out good because Ninninger's writer is a train autist
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>>23615531
>I don't need videos when I already have the toys
So you're even more of a retard than I thought, since you can't even identify the very obvious upgrades they made to the articulation of the legs, as well as the arms and the head, despite having the toys in your own goddamn hands.
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>>23615519
I hope Matsuura and Akiko get demoted to AP and sub-writer respectively, they're clearly not competent enough to headline a show.
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>>23615498
Kids don't care about hip articulation. They care about cool toys and cool characters. People liked and still like Shinkalion.
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>>23615542
writers don't get demoted, you really don't understand how these shows are made
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>>23615565
I know that they're freelance and not actual Toei employees, but I still hope she doesn't get hired as a main writer again.
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>>23615585
I mean chances are really low since her only contact are Matsuura and Minato, Matsuura is the likeliest to pick her again and even him admitted that he didn't originally want to pick her so chances are his next show in case he's given a chance won't have her as the head writer
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>>23615534
Did you watch the videos, how do you know he's not shitting you?

>>23615538
>>23615414
Say we still go with your argument then here's a counterpoint. If kids cared about articulation then why did Tomica Earth Granner not survive Covid when it had articulation superior to even the DXS?

>>23615561
Exactly my point, it was never about how good the toys were.
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>>23615627
>Say we still go with your argument then here's a counterpoint
Oh, so you're backpedaling now. I don't know why you're trying to convince anon that I might be bullshitting him, it's so pathetic when the proof to my claims is right there.
>If kids cared about articulation then why did Tomica Earth Granner not survive Covid when it had articulation superior to even the DXS?
I never said articulation was everything, but the reason the main mecha of the highest-selling Sentai in Reiwa came to be is because one of the toy designers found out that his kid cared about being able to pose his toys.
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>>23615639
I'm not backpedaling, I'm asking you to apply your logic to another example like Earth Granner, which you failed to do.
>I never said articulation was everything,
Now THIS is backpedaling
>highest-selling Sentai in Reiwa
And we're jumping to Reiwa now? Doesn't it disprove your point if Onitaijin sold more than Shinkalion Z? Both are 2022 but Shinkalion Z still has superior articulation and more combinations.
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>>23615660
>Now THIS is backpedaling
I was initially just correcting you about which Shinkalion toys the first anon you replied to was talking about, but since you made the entire conversation about articulation, I decided follow suit in the next posts. You're still wrong about which Shinkalion toys competed with LuPat by the way, despite your constant lying.
>And we're jumping to Reiwa now?
Donbrothers was the first Sentai show since Kyuranger (the show that came before LuPat) to actually go up in sales instead of continuing the downward trend.
>Doesn't it disprove your point if Onitaijin sold more than Shinkalion Z?
No, because both toys have decent articulation above what the usual Sentai robo has, and if both sold well then that just proves the point two fold. I don't even know which one actually sold more between the two but post the evidence if you have it.
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>>23615333
Kids don't really care about anything anymore, to be fair. If it can't be digested in 30-60 seconds, they have no patience for it and tune out. Kids' desire for toys has been declining year after year because they want smart devices to watch endless short-form videos all day. It's not Sentai's fault kids are brainrotted content zombies now.
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>>23615698
So if you're not >>23615414 only >>23615390 then what else, besides the extra few points of articulation, makes OG Shinkalion "good toys" over LuPat's. And don't say >>23615390 is not (you) either.

>Donbrothers was the first Sentai show since Kyuranger (the show that came before LuPat) to actually go up in sales instead of continuing the downward trend.
There's a whole other argument here because domestic sales dipped slightly during KingOh but went back up during Boonboom. It's almost as if the toys don't matter.

>I don't even know which one actually sold more between the two but post the evidence if you have it.
This part I'll put my hands up and concede since 2022 was also the year that Kimetsu no Yaiba DX sword was released. Don't need to look it up to know that we both lose.
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>>23615734
>So if you're not >>23615414 only >>23615390
I'm neither of them, >>23615494 is my first post on this chain of replies, you didn't even reply to >>23615414 until you assumed he was me. I even addressed >>23615390 as someone else already but somehow you failed to understand that.

Also nice job completely ignoring that you were wrong and lied about the Shinkalion toys that competed with LuPat.
>then what else, besides the extra few points of articulation, makes OG Shinkalion "good toys" over LuPat's.
They also look better and have better gimmicks.
>There's a whole other argument here because domestic sales dipped slightly during KingOh but went back up during Boonboom
That potentially has to do with how those shows were received by children, though I don't think that's the sole determining factor in sales.
>since 2022 was also the year that Kimetsu no Yaiba DX sword was released. Don't need to look it up to know that we both lose.
That's not even remotely the same kind of toy, and it supposedly selling better doesn't automatically mean the mecha toys sold poorly. We know Onitaijin definitely didn't, I'm not familiar with Shinkalion Z's performance.
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>>23615985
>I'm neither
So you have no fight in this at all and is just fucking around for the sake of it. Got it.
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>>23615992
>So you have no fight in this at all
I corrected you and you kept insisting on your blatant lies. Anyone is free to reply to whoever they want here.
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>>23614622
So ugly
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>>23614622
>start great, especially lupin
>slowly turn into shit
sad
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A lot of recent Sentai robo toys are bricks and don't even attempt to look cool or even screen accurate, like their engineering was stuck in 2005. Meanwhile Korea and China are making cool looking robots that can transform, combine and have good articulation.
That's a problem.
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If instead of a Sentai reboot, Universe Heroes was a Metal Heroes, what would change?
You could still have hero teams and robot toys, just in more elaborate sui- oh. Right.
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>>23615519
Budget was never the main draw of Gavan. Honestly if they can manage to find an acrobatic lead actor willing to do stunts they'll have gotten 70% of Gavan's appeal down. The biggest downside of Gozyuger's reshoots taking Sakamoto is I feel he would have been the best pick for this.
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>>23614856
>>23614826
Oh that's great. Metal Heroes designs look so cool.
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>>23614329
Damn, that's depressively low sales for sentai.
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>>23611965
>>23621581
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>>23613399
Wasn't that just allegations from some tabloid?
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>>23622147
Yes
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>>23611965
>Worrying state of Toei Tokusatsu
>Didn't read the rest
OP wants teen/adult Tokusatsu, and have toy-centric tokusatsu fatigue?
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>>23623301
>Didn't read the rest
OP is worried of the increasing costs of toku and that in a single week a lot of bad news about tokusatsu in general happened.
But now that some weeks has passed none of those news seems as big deal as initially seemed aside from Kamen Rider Valen's suit actor breaking his skull.
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>>23622147
Yeah, we don't know if they're are fake or not.
Likeliest scenario it's fake but the actress still did more misdeeds besides the underage drinking which is why she got fired.
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>>23625290
>Likeliest scenario it's fake
No, the likeliest scenario is that it's true, because the affair insider leaked the suit actor's departure.
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>>23625299
The actor had already be shown to be sick and the episode had already been filmed several months ago before it's airing, it's likelier that Asai didn't do anything but they couldn't comment because Imamori had already done something, which given how this isn't even the first controversy from an actor of her talent agency
There's also another tabloids also reporting that the cast hates her because she apparently had no remorse about anything, but that's another un sourced claim so ultimately we don't know
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>>23625315
Private videos of Imamori and her (ex)boyfriend got leaked, it's suspected that it was her (ex)boyfriend who did it out of revenge after learning she cucked him.
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>>23625319
Didn't that get revealed to come from a musician who got canceled by a tabloid who then turned into a tabloid writer from Bunshun himself, who apparently was friend of Imamori's boyfriend allowing him to get those pictures or something?
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>>23621644
Maybe they should switch to more intricate model kits and higher-end toys, similar to Master Grade and Perfect Grade Gundam kits, and Masterpiece Transformers. More money in the enthusiast market
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>>23625326
>Didn't that get revealed to come from a musician who got canceled by a tabloid who then turned into a tabloid writer from Bunshun himself
He's not a tabloid writer, he made it his mission to expose every celebrity he can on his Twitter account after he got exposed himself.
>who apparently was friend of Imamori's boyfriend allowing him to get those pictures or something?
He never names his sources, he keeps asking for anyone who has dirt on a celeb to get in contact with him so he can expose them.
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Why do you guys care? Nobody here is Japanese. Tokusatsu is primarily for Japanese audiences. If tokusatsu has problems, that's on Japan. You guys feel as if Kamen Rider, sentai, Ultraman, etc. are supposed to cater to you guys. I never understood this entitlement from non-Japanese fans of Japanese media.

I like tokusatsu as well as Japanese music, manga/anime, and video games because it's a refreshing alternative to some of the modern slop that gets peddled by Western companies. But I'm not going to get flustered if it all goes under 1 day. There's a huge backlog of stuff that I can watch, listen, read, play, etc.
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>>23626183
>Why do you guys care?
Because it's a whole genre of live-action that's only done by the Japanese and the people behind these shows are really passionate, the problems are the laws, inflation and increasing budget costs making them harder to live on even if it is something well-liked in Japan. One doesn't have to be Japanese to appreciate that.
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A late GenZ / Gen Alpha kid has too many options when it comes to entertainment and most of them are "cooler" than Super Sentai. Fortnite, Youtube, Streamers are all more popular options for children than Sentai. Sentai is too safe and focused on compliance with PTA standards which makes it lose it cool. Youtubers are free from this. They are doing stupid shit online and creating content your mom can't control. It makes sense why its dying even if it hurts us fans.
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>>23626424
There's 50 years worth of sentai. I highly doubt anyone here has watched every season.

I just finished all of the Shout Factory Super Sentai releases. Now I'm getting into 1980s series starting with Bioman.

>>23626417
I appreciate it too, but it's not our country and not our problems. I'll be sad when they cancel it but all good things come to an end. Just appreciate all the work they've created.
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>>23626424
The thing is that people, even children like toku including Super Sentai
The reason why it's dying is because their toys are worse than everything you said and other toku/mecha toys
Point is the problem aren't the shows or the their staff but the toy makers in Bandai, even if people like the show no one aside from a few autists will buy a bad product to support something, because as a customer you'd like expect the manufacturer to actually improve the toys
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>>23626424
Action cartoons in America died decades ago for the same reason, it's really easy for kids who want something violent to just watch battle shonen or play GTA or whatever instead.
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>>23622147
Yes, it happens all the time, and this kind of shit is somewhat emblematic of all the problems in the Japanese entertainment industry. As much shit we give to the American one, we often forget, neglect or just don't care that Japan's has its own unique myriad of problems, not the least of which being that if people don't like you, they'd just spread malicious rumors to hurt your career, which more often than not works and happens to younger talent.
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>>23614354
And Demon Slayer is basically JoJo part 1.
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>>23614354
Everything is a copy of something
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>>23622147
Alegations of a Tabloid that came out before it was suddenly revealed the suit actor was retiring ealier than previously announced.
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Man everything good is either dying or becoming too expensive to make. The good times truly are over aren't they
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>>23614428
Personally I thought the toys weren't great. The main driver was way too big and the gimmicks were way too small and repetitive.

Not to mention the writing in gavv was terrible and none of what the bad guys do makes any sense.
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>>23626826
Bocca made some sense and the writing of Shouma, Lakia and kinda Hanto plus most of the cases of the week were great.
Bud goddamn the Stomach family are the worst villain organization in the franchise which is saying something, I really wish the producer hadn't extended their lifespan or that at the very least the writer would have found a way to properly integrate them into the story rather than just straight up giving up. They could have also let some of the secondary writers handle the Stomach development, I don't think any of them would have done a particularly great job aside from maybe Uchida but it still would have been better than nothing.
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>>23627014
It just seemed like there should have been so much more meat and drama to their story. Instead it was basically "Yeah Shoma we're all shitbags and always fucking hated you" and Shoma was "Yeah I figured, alright guess I'm genociding my family then" And that was basically it. It's not even that Granute's were inherently evil, they were all just a bunch of comical assholes for some reason.
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>>23627107
I mean, that was basically established from the start. Even stuff like Nyelv not really hating Shouma felt kind of forced. They just weren't built to be villains for an entire year.

If it were a Takahashi show, I think when asked to extend their roles they'd all just suddenly grown consciousness and help against the final villain. But Gavv's writer was clearly worried about how people would react to people who did cruel things "turning" around - see all of Vram's victims getting rescued so he had no blood on his hands, so there could be no real redemption for them and they had to remain villains even if there was much more they could do in that position.
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>>23611965
>Gozyuger will be the last show (for now) because the franchise has been bleeding money since 2015 and them not being able to do multi media projects due to the Power Rangers license
Wait, what? They didn't earn a single penny out of PowRangers?
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>>23627457
Hasbro stopped using sentai footage and Hasbro is a competitor to Bandai so no toy revenue.

Saban really burned bridges and lately Toei is very pissed off at the retarded contract that the 90's management signed over PR. Shirakura in particular is pretty salty towards PR; a sentiment that other Toei figures have expressed.

So them ending sentai as a franchise and doing something else is Toei marketing their stuff in the West.
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>>23627467
Yeah maybe in the 90's it made sense because burgers are racist fucktards though I think that's mostly from boomer executives.

That pic is from The Toys That Made Us (you can even see the patch on Shirakura) and you can tell he doesn't like how sentai has to be repackaged as PR. Sentai should be marketed as itself. The last 5 years have proven that modern audiences can accept and watch Asian media including live-action.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8id6cf

You can tell at 14:34 when they're talking about how Saban "loved" sentai and there's Shirakura's reaction. I think out of deference, Shirakura doesn't openly criticize Suzuki since he's a senior producer but he privately thinks the old man and the other execs were retards back then.
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>>23626444
You're a faggot of the highest order and deserves to have everything you currently like cancelled so you can weave in the past while ignoring the future.
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>>23627117
>But Gavv's writer was clearly worried about how people would react to people who did cruel things "turning" around
that's in basically everything she's worked on, she also wrote that one Wizard two-parter about Gremlin's bait and switch redemption
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>>23627117
Yeah she just likes killing villains. This happened in all her Sentai seasons, this happened in her Precure season, and according to the producer the Stomachs were outright planned to die even earlier. She's not worried so much as she never had any intention of redeeming them from the start. Stacey in Zenkaiger is literally the only time one of her villain turned face and that's because the character was created for the actor.
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>>23627554
iirc she said she's a fan of Showa Sentai and likes making villains as unredeemable as possible so that they can die and Gremlin being unredeemable was plotline thought up by Tsuyoshi Kida but Gremlin wasn't originally intended to become the final boss of the show.
But I might be remembering wrong.
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>>23611965
OP here, I take back some of what I said
>>One of the Zeztz's suit actors broke his skull during practice
Still recovering but he just got out of the hospital and will remain on the industry
>>Sumino got fired because she got caught drinking despite being underage
Got replaced by Kohaku Shida who is a much better actress, but sadly every episode released prior her firing is still in limbo
>>Matsuura might take the fall for all this
It's still uncomfirmed from my understanding but I've seen multiple Japanese who claim that while Toei will have to pay some damages to the actors, most of the damages will fall unto Imamori's agency Seju
>>Toei will now give legal classes to new actors due to this controversy
This doesn't seem as restrictive as I initially thought it was, and it might motivate agencies to actually do their job, in response to this news many actors opened up about how agencies don't give them any proper training and how Seju has had other controversies before apparently
>>While not as bad as other asian countries, Japan still has a declining birth rate
As many pointed out this actually doesn't matter as much and the birth rate actually improved
>>Toei still seems desperately trying to expand toku outside of Japan
Also doesn't seems as big of a deal the more I think about it, since they haven't done any scummy deal so far, Zeztz's official subs have been surprisingly competent when compared to other official subs and wether future shows try to appeal harder to the west or other eastern countries depends on which producer gets assigned rather than being something enforced, so since the main focus is still Japanese children not much might change actually aside from maybe the toy shilling now that something is taking Sentai's slot.
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>>23611965
The future of toku is looking bright honestly, next year we're getting a lot of toku and this year hasn't even ended yet, meaning there's probably even more toku to get announced for next year
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>>23628614
And they just posted the trademark for a Gavan reboot too
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>>23628614
We're getting more western releases too, the license fees and royalties will hopefully help, at least a little bit.

Discotek will continue with Kamen Rider and Metal Heroes. Media Blasters doing Garo. Etc
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>>23614871
No but it doesn't matter how good the sales are if making the show is so annoying and expensive to make that no amount of sales are worth the headache
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>>23630430
But everyone liked working on Gavv besides the action director and arguably the writer, but the latter was just mildly annoyed she still liked her show overall
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>>23631381
You're a newfag that doesn't even watch /m/ anime and didn't even bother reading OP
Come back once you've watched Ideon and MD Geist at least jesus
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>>23631404
Bitch, I have denounced tokushit for longer than you have been alive. This is also me.
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>>23631370
Why did the action director not like working on Gavv?
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>Why did gavv sell so poorly

Because it wasn't very good
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>>23611965
>Toei still seems desperately trying to expand toku outside of Japan which is a tactic that tends to have bad results in Japanese companies
Well maybe, maybe, SELL ME THOSE FUCKING FIGUARTS IN EUROPE
There is a tamashii nations store in my city and yet they get 0 Kamen Rider or Sentai due to "few customers for that"
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>>23612472
>Unless they're the biggest stars
Lmao, even Char Aznable VA was dropped due to him fucking bitch on the side
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>>23613402
>Fanbase is mostly autistic
>The season about trains sells like hotcakes

Coincidence?
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>>23614354
>My Hero Academia is X-Men as a manga
Wh-what ?
MHA is 80% of the population have super power and you follow the dude who is in the 20%
X-men is minority have super power and you follow this minority
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>>23632210
MHA is a shit copy of Tiger and Bunny and all my real ones know it
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>>23632190
I've noticed posts like these where they use a reaction image that doesn't like it belong to any board, saying "shit sucks" without elaborating getting posted across 4chan as a whole for the past two weeks on almost every thread
It's obviously a bot operation but from whom?
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>>23632057
Poor scheduling resulting in the fights being more tiring to film
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>>23632245
It's from the boogyman living inside your brain you schizoid
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>>23632209
Japan as a whole likes trains. One of the most successful toylines over there in recent years is all about train robots.
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>>23613402
>Trains and rainbows, that's the key to success.

Except back then Toqger didn't have to compete with Shinkalion. Back then it was a less crowded market compared to now. Not to mention, Takara makes better robots that kids want and the kids and their parents finally realized it. Bandai still hasn't figured it out yet or rather outright refuses to go in that direction to the point that they bear some responsibility for how badly the toyline has fared. Not that it absolves Toei for making a string of bad shows that cratered the franchise. And the worse thing is, the guy who wrote one of the worst sentai shows that put Super Sentai where it is now on the chopping block helped launch Shinkalion. So really, Sentai could have gone in a totally different direction if production and management did their jobs properly instead of a clusterfuck of shows and toys that destroyed this franchise.



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