She looks like space obasan.How come she is the leader of the Neo Zeon?
>>23625480Wait to you learn how old Kycilia was.
>>23625480OYW literally killed off like 80% of people 30 and overPart of the tragedy is that kids had to grow up real fucking fast to keep society running
Haman Karn is a woman who could have been like a mother to me.
>>23625480>space obasanWatch more anime.
Imagine if she lived past 30.
>>23625860Kamille...
yes, And?
Do they draw her thiccer in ZZ or am I crazy?
>>23625480>She looks like space obasan.You WILL retract those words, earthnoid
>>23626063what's this from
>>23625480>How come she is the leader of the Neo Zeon?Spacenoid politics. Her dad was the admiral in charge of Axis and her sister was Dozle's mistress. Both of them died early so Haman inherited their responsibilities as both Zeon holdout leader and Zabi family retainer.
>>23626230Imagine if Chat left her at the altar instead of the absolute ass that was CDA. Char not being ready for commitment makes way more sense than him knocking up a random OC.
>>23626422CDA's events should not be considered canon to Zeta's TV or movie versions. It only exists within the same realm that Zeta Define did. The closest we have gotten to something giving us a proper telling of Char and Haman's relationship at Axis was through that U.C Engage game. Haman in that version was already naturally ambitious and wanted to be the one to create her own "Neo Zabi family". Char initially thought she could be another Lalah, but her mindset caused him to eventually leave under the excuse of aiding Earth's Sphere-based elements to undermine the Federation. Considering Kycilia had ties to the Karn family and had Haman learning from her at some point before and during the OYW, it makes sense Char would see shadows of her in Haman.
>>23626468>create her own "Neo Zabi family"Imagine if she succeeded lol.
>>23626468>closest we have gotten to something giving us a proper telling of Char and Haman's relationship at Axis was through that U.C Engage gameThis and also a 5 second appearance in a Gihren's Greed cutscene (she hugs him)
>>23625480Have you ever seen a woman
>>23626515Why is she dressed like a trad wife?
>>23626171zeta novels
>>23626548Why indeed
>>23625480Your generation is just a pack of overgrown babies
Do boobs sag still in zero gravity?
>>23625480
>>23625480>She looks like space obasan.wtf I love obasan now
It's amazing how one mention of that woman brings out the same type of faggots as wfm
>>23628379I wish this was more than a gag.
>>23628379Isekai Villainess reincarnation story. Some rando Japanese OL who is a mega Gundam otaku dies from overwork, wakes up and find herself as Haman just after OYW is over/ pre-Zeta and must now figure out how to not end up dying plus reform Zeon.
>>23628399Except Hamanfags know we are garbage. I realize I am trash and accept that.
I am drinking my coffee, smoking a j, and dumping from my Hamanfolder.
>>23628613>filenameBasically Lecce from L-gaim
>>23628608nice legs.
>>23628637I know rite?
>>23625480>Wtf... Haman is 20?out of 20!
I have 800+ images in my Gundam folder, none of them are organized, none of them are Haman/Judau, and I need way more coffee.
>>23628642dramatic bitch
>>23628671She was excited to see her bae again and felt extra flirty.
>>23628671>>23628678she just wants to play.
>>23626230I like the picture but she never piloted the Gerbera.
>>23629130The gerbera feels out of place in the image the more you look at it.
>>23629130>>23629135it was a gift for her would be groom.
>>23629246Still out of place, why is there an MS inside a mansion? How did it even get there? How does it even fit for that matter? Why is it seemly phasing through the floor? It's not perspective, even accounting for that it's sized wrong. Is it not actually an MS but some sort of statue? Why would that even exist? Like I get that the artist wanted to avoid the massive negative space that would otherwise be there but surely there was a way to do it better.
Could you imagine though if Axis had this huge planned royal wedding like they do in England only for the groom to not show up? How fucking humiliating would that be?
>>23629897Haman should be a chihuahua.
Do you think her and Char bonded over both being molested by Kycilia as kids?
This is AI but I gelked to it and grew half and inch I am so sorry.
I need help.
>>23629967It's giving Harulu vibes
>>23629921why is minky momo hanging out with space nazis??
Will they animate OL Haman?
What's her appeal?
>>23631702no plastic to sell so no.
>>23631901They can sell bishojo figs, which is also big money.
>>23631702no because the manga bombed hard and it's on hiatus already
>>23632169I thought it just wasnt being translated anymore because Japan is cracking down on this sort of thing.
>>23625480She is one of the few characters who look at her age
>>23632169The manga has like 7 volumes and has been going on for 5 years. For a dumbass gag manga I mostly jerk off to that seems like a success.
>>23632306>japan is cracking down on translationsThen do it yourselves you lazy fucks, stop leaving money on the table and whining about people overseas wanting to read your product
>>23625480It's hilarious at the end of Zeta when Char, Haman, and Scirocco are all laying out their ideologies in the theatre, and Char says that they need to step aside and let the younger generation take charge... not a single one of them is older than 25 and he's talking like it's time to retire
>>23626530Is she a sad circus child?
>>23632321Despite it being drawn for the coomer gaze it is also very fucking funny.
>>23632835Char catfishing Kamille in an MMO is nothing short of perfection.
>>23625496>8 years old
>>23632843Upon reading this page, I was slain.
I love girlfailure Haman. I don't know why it works so well with this character. Maybe its because she failed to fuck a 15 year old once that really resonated with people.
>>23632889
>>23632989It makes sense. She tries very hard to come off as a cold, calculating leader, but she fucks up a LOT.
gender bent haman.
>"C'mon, Capitan. Tell kids about all the Spacenoid Independence conventions you attend discussing SPACENOID INDEPENDENCE with the NEWTYPES.">takes off sunglasses>wipes them off>puts them back on>"...">"Tell them how you killed our baby, Haman.">"CHAR, NO!">"Real, real tragedy. Haman was drunk of course, and she wasn't watching the mobile suit launch pad. We were by Luna II. I was receiving an award for my work in, what was it dear? SPACENOID INDEPENDENCE? I wanted to have another child but her uterus was polluted from all the Minovsky Particles.">"YOU BASTARD!"
>>23636414>That thing cannot be called life. Abort it. NOW.
>>23636444
sex with haman in her dumb capey uniform
>>23638015This makes me so stupid happy. If they don't animate this then they are leaving money on the table. I don't care if it is a slide show if they get the right VAs.
>>23626147It's the dress, it really does make her butt look big
>>23641695Her butt has always been huge though.
>>23641727Never seen this one, where'd this come from?
>>23641762https://80sanime.tumblr.com/myscans
>>23641766What a goldmine. Thanks friend.
>>23625480In anime terms that's like being 30, almost 40!
>>23631879Resting bitch faceIs evil(very important)
>>23645803Sayla has this haircut too.
>>23631879gap moe
>>23645927MINEVA'S MOM HAS GOT IT GOING ON
disguised haman
>>23629246This, the GB was meant to be piloted by char.>>23629817It's a joke
Haman is beautiful
Haman is cute
Haman is cool
Haman is boss
Haman is mommy
Haman is pretty
Haman is silly
Haman is small
Haman is derpy
Haman is best
Haman is kitty
Haman is plush
Haman is smug
Haman is 3D
Haman is relaxed>>23629961
Haman is wife
>>23647934
>>23655493And a wabbit.
>>23645827>hey Char, I'm thinking of going blonde>it officially just got weird I'm off to the AEUG
goddess
>>23647934>>23657560Remember when kycillia wore a blonde wig so she could shake her ass on the moon? I wonder if a blonde wig is just the go to spacenoid disguise
Why is /m/ so tsundere for OL Haman-sama?
>>23665931It sucks, I hate it!
Haman tying up kamille and pegging him with a pink foot long dildo!
>>23668456>with a pink foot long dildo!Make it a qubeley head and you have a deal.
>>23626530>He said the line
>>23626626not just souls no longer pulled down by gravity
>>23626530Judau was so lame in T. You can easily tell those Bamco cowards watered down his bond with Haman to make Char the only possible romance option for her
>>23626530silent voice mentioned.
>>23671130Momwife
So you're saying that Arasa OL Haman is Haman who has gone through some shit ... I dig that
>>23667396Why do you think it sucks?
>>23625480It would make no sense with the themes of the show if she was an old cunt
>>23678246methinks anon is being tsun
Could Haman have survived her defeat? Was her death suicide?
>>23626468>CDA's events should not be considered canon to Zeta's TV or movie versionsAnd neither should 0083's events
>>23625914Where can I watch more obasan anime
>>23665931Because Haman looks closer to 30 anyway and I love office ladies
>>23626468Tangential but what are some good Gundam manga to read, I haven't read any yet. Was thinking of reading Beltorchika's Children
>>23681245Thats a good one assuming you've seen all the required anime. Its not canon due to some changes but it does explore a lot more of CCA's characters in canonish ways. A lot of scenes that should have been in the movie.If you're into Late UC and have seen the F91 movie I recommend the Crossbone manga(and Skullheart and Steel 7) as they are both fun and good bridges to Victory Gundam.
>>23681414>requiredWouldn't that be just the UC stuff set from 0079 to CCA times?I was fascinated to hear of an alt take of the movie, and I wanted to see what Char was like there.I did enjoy F91 and the first Crossbone manga, was a bit surprised that there were like forty sequels. I just wanted a full story for F91 but Crossbone was fun, especially because I like weirdo mobile suits and stupid mobile armors. Not every strong mecha has to be a Gundam...
>>23681245Depends on what you're interested in. There's a wide fucking range of Gundam manga all over the place. Most of what's listed below should be fully or nearly fully translated, except for whatever is ongoing.>alternate version\retelling of existing Gundam stories0083 RebellionGundam Wing Glory of LosersBeltorchika's Children>solving\chasing a mysteryThe Plan to Assassinate GihrenMSV-R Return of Johnny RiddenGundam Pulitzer (ongoing)>early UC sidestoriesThe Blue Destiny (there's an old and new version)Ground Zero - Rise from the AshesGundam LegacyThoroughbred - From a Place Beyond the BlazeMSG Aggressor>late UCF90F90 Fastest FormulaF90 Cluster (ongoing)Crossbone Gundam series (ongoing)>sillier stuffGundam SouseiMobile Suit Gundam-sanAcguy: 2250 Miles Across North AmericaWe're Federation HooligansGundam Katana
>>23681430If you liked the first Crossbone manga then I highly recommend you read the rest! The only stipulation is that before you read Ghost and the manga after that you need to watch Victory first.>Wouldn't that be just the UC stuff set from 0079 to CCA times?Yeah.
Judau is a stronger man than me. I would have folded like a newspaper if Haman was whispering in my ear like that.
>>23682102Mans already got Ruu and Puru
>>23682253Roux is a massive bitch and Ple is just annoying. Haman utterly mogs them.
>>23682654>Roux is a massive bitch What? A bit if whinning compared to Haman carrying sour grapes for years?
>>23682672It's endearing when Haman does it, it reinforces her cute girlfailure side. Roux is too competent so it comes off as over-entitled whinging.
>You know what I really want for Christmas this year is for a big man in red to come stuff my stocking. Maybe I will give your North Pole some love in retrun, ya feel me?
>>23629948>gelkedWhat does that even mean?
>>23632306>Japan is cracking down on this sort of thing.Aw, say it ain't so...
>>23632557Kinda gives the impression that Japan has skewed perceptions on age.
>>23632980At first I thought she was thinking out loud and he was despairing over her holding him in such low esteem.
>>23632989I thought he was 14.
>>23641766Got that in a res that makes the text actually legible?
>>23665907>Remember when kycillia wore a blonde wig so she could shake her ass on the moon?No.
>>23679572No. Yes.
>>23629941Imagine how many lives could have been saved had Judau just swallowed his pride and took her to pound town.
>>23629918Whoa... She has abs!
>>23681430>weirdo mobile suitsWhich weirdo mobile suits in particular?
>>23681451This is extensive and helpful, thank you! I keep hearing about the F90 now and then, so I was wondering what was happening. A rewrite of 0083 would be nice, Blue Destiny seemed interesting as well.>>23681457I do plan on watching Victory at some point, but I presume I have plenty of time to do that. Crossbone was good, substantially more likable than in SRW, I think I slept on it for that, but I also wasn't familiar with F91 either.>>23683694The three specialist "tank+speed+attack" team was neat to see, love me my mobile armors as well.
>>23682654Haman killed herself after being rejected by a 14-year-old
>>23632557wasn't Char like 28 then?
>>2368425225
>>23684251yeah, it was funny
>>23661886Not nearly enough reverse kabeDON in general.
>>23683710What made Crossbone less likable in SRW?
>>23684252He was 27 in Zeta.
>>23685272Not sure if it was>I don't know what's going on, so I'm not interestedor>they're sort of just there for most stages and the theme's not that interesting, I don't know why the Gundam looks like that, how stupidI only remember Bernadette was a bit endearing. I warmed up to the Crossboner from seeing its plethora of weapons as well as finding out that it needs those thrusters so it won't be weighed down by the gravity of Jupiter. That and I care about Kincaide from having seen F91.
So what did Haman want to do with Neo Zeon in the end and why? Also why did she kill herself?Kinda related but what the fuck was Glemy trying to accomplish? Did he just want to be the one running things instead of Haman?
>>23678026>KazInitially I conflated that with YAS for some reason.
>>23629817>take apart a whole ass mansion, truck in your mobile suit, reassemble the house nail and plank by arduous plankSpacen*ids be like "damn how the fuck we keep losing these wars where the hell do my space taxes go??"
>>23687546i think she wanted neo zeon to control earth like what the original zeon wanted, but with her more or less pulling the strings while mineva was essentially a figurehead (until she became and adult, presumably)initially it seems like she attempted a more diplomatic approach, with some light skirmishes early on to deal with the crippled federation/ titans before going to the table to work out terms until judau fucked up the party at the ef hqi forgot why she dropped the colony on dublin, iirc it was just a show of force and not really much else and nobody really gives a shit afterwards glemy falls into the problem of him initially being a minor antagonist who suddenly had the role meant for char thrust on him, i think he did want to usurp zeon from haman, yeahiirc he's gihren's test tube kid and puru is his sister according to character docs
>>23692135>i forgot why she dropped the colony on dublinfeds setup a government-in-exile in dublin after they fled dakar
>>23692536I thought she just really hated the Irish.
>>23636267Male Haman should have a medieval yee yee ass haircut, like that of Dry Devil from KCD2
>>23645803BTW that's a historical nickname for bob haircuts. They were meant to resemble helmet.
What makes her so wifeable?
>>23693773Ten free moving particle cannons
>>23693824I don't get it.
>>23693773Combination of her glamorous charisma and aristocratic presence. She has the physiognomy of an ancient Queen and the attitude to match. Probably the only Gundam female character where you actually feel like she has presence.
>>23694062the funnels she controls are the free moving mega particle cannons
>>23693773this >>23694905 combined with her vulnerabilities makes her an endearing and very three-dimensional character
>>23687546Like she tells Char in the finale of Zeta and in her motive speeches in ZZ, her objective was to use the figurehead of the Zabi family and a resurrection of the imagery of Zeon as a standard to rally Newtypes around a Contolist military dictatorship. She violently rejected Char's faith that humanity on their own would leave Earth and become Newtypes. In Haman's opinion, this is naïve and the way to fix humanity being "weighed down by Earth's gravity" (stay caught in the cycle of violence, obsolete ideologies and attachment to tradition) was to establish a forceful military dictatorship that'd develop humanity into the direction she wanted. She doesn't have any actual loyalty to the Zabi family per se or even Zeon, they're just convenient. In fact if anything she seems to despise them for stealing Zeon Deikun's republic and getting her sister killed in the "far reaches of space". She tells Judau that she made the Zabis a puppet to get back at them. Haman just sees the Zabis as a convenient way to get power for her political vision. The problem was that in pretending to be a Zabi loyalist she attracted actual Zabi loyalists like Glemy who were incensed by her blatantly reducing them to figureheads while she ruled as dictator. Glemy wanted a restoration of the Zabi family to true power, hence the Neo Zeon civil war at the end of ZZ. She kills herself because she realized that she was the one who was most weighed down by gravity of them all, and she had corrupted her own dream by using the Zabis who she should have left in the garbage bin of history. Judau embodied the pure dream she desired (hence her obsession with him, he was the promised Newtype), a violent rejection of both the Federation and Zeon and all who copied them for a new revolution of the youth unweighed by gravity.
Did Haman know Char was Casval Diekun?
>>23695407Yes.
>>23695312Hasn't the majority of the human population been displaced into the colonies by the EF already?The Zabis were the greatest enemy of Contolism, the EF its greatest benefactor.
>>23695477IIRC it was soemthing like 11 billion in spaxe by the OYW
So you like red...
>>23695477>>23695482>The only populations figure that is consistent throughout the Gundam Saga is that, at the start of the One Year War, there were a total of eleven billion people in the Earth Sphere, nine billion of whom lived in space. Of these, it is estimated that a billion lived in subterranean colonies on the Moon. Another billion were scattered among the various asteroid settlements and geosynchronous satellite stations.>The remaining seven billion lived in the six “Sides” orbiting the Lagrange points, one billion per Side except for Side 3, which alone used the newer closed type colonies to support a population of two billion.https://www.dyarstraights.com/gundam-test/its-life-gm-but-not-as-we-know-it/
>>23696177I already like Haman as-is, but blonde hair makes my knees meltI'd be loyal like Mashymre too if she asked me to join Neo Zeon like this
>>23695312>She violently rejected Char's faith that humanity on their own would leave Earth and become Newtypes. In Haman's opinion, this is naïve and the way to fix humanity being "weighed down by Earth's gravity" (stay caught in the cycle of violence, obsolete ideologies and attachment to tradition) was to establish a forceful military dictatorship that'd develop humanity into the direction she wanted.sort of related but what made Char change his views from seemingly moderate in Zeta to his CCA views where he esentially does the same thing as Haman minus the Zabi iconography and militarismWhy did Char even leave Haman in the first place? Was it the case of him not liking Haman using the Zabis as a rallying point for Neo-Zeon? I just finished watching the main parts of UC (0079, Zeta, ZZ, CCA) so I am not familiar with any of the side-materials that might explain the things I am asking.
>>23692536Okay but why did NeoZeon kill any civilian refugee ships trying to escape? Thats not helping your plans its just comically evil.
>>23696492I think CCA wants the audience to think Char was radicalized by the Federation's cooptation of AEUG and the total failure of any real reform, with refugees jampacked in new colonies. As for Haman, his problem with her in Zeta is that he abhorred using the Zabi family and Neo-Zeon.
>>23696862Being comically evil was the goal. Hitting the Feds was just an excuse.
I think they should fuck.
>>23696874I don't think Amuro and Haman ever even met
>>23696875They didn't, but if they did it would end in sex.
>>23696878OL Haman is for Judau
>>23696885That's a lie.
>>23696492>>23696492Depending on how you look at it you could argue Char in CCA doesn't have "views" and is just going through the motions in order to get his duel to the death with Amuro. Zeta's ending basically threw everything he strived for back in his face, from Kamille turning into a vegetable, Haman and Scirocco being powerful newtypes but still creating strife and conflict, as well as like >>23696868 said about feeling like it was all for nothing. Not to mention the other things that probably added up like being put on the spot for Dakar and having to fill the role of a quasi-leader for AEUG and getting blamed for Reccoa. It's easy to imagine he just snapped and regressed to wanting to dredge up his rivalry with Amuro, and essentially concocted up some bullshit to get spacenoids sieg-ing in the streets again and build him a red mobile suit.
>>23696885Other way around.
>>23647291fuck I laughed
>>23626063I mean yeah, at the start of Zeta, Kamiyu is obviously attracted to both Reccoa and Emma. Four fixes him. Four...Every man is either attracted to, or repelled by, characteristics of his mother. It makes sense evolution wise, but the whole "mommy"shit is disgusting. But I digress, this is why so many men are attracted to abusive women, usually because a similar behavior could be seen in their relationship with their mothers. Some times the behavior is exacerbated due to reasons, ie the girlfriend is way more abusive than the mother, but you can still track the seeds for such attraction.
>>23696492Wasn't it Kamille's mindrape that acted as the final straw?
>>23625480>HAMan>doesnt pilot the HAMma HAMma
