Gonna be honest here, bulky western mechs are cooler than anime feminine sharp edges mechs
Based. Fuck Anime.
>>23636106scopedogs are pretty cool I guess
the atlas is lame though
Armored Core is the perfect middle ground since a lot of the designs are tactical instead of sentai even when a lot of Gundam artists worked on the games. Also battlekeks and titans (titanfall) would get raped by ACs, MAYBE the 40k titans would win but if a starter AC can bring down a coral strider the size of a state I think its a David vs Goliath situation. I know the LC isn’t an AC
>>23636106>gonna be honest hereDisingenuous OPs pretending not to know their origins will never not be funny to me. No Okawara = no BattleTech. Also, fuck this fake glownigger fanbase division. Mecha for life.
Luv' me stompy mechs.Luv' me zoomy mechs.'Ate dick size competitions between universes.'Ate bait threads.Simple as.
>>23636226The coral strider was a civilian mining mech so it wasn't exactly David vs. Goliath. It was more like a fighter jet vs. an oil tanker with a howitzer parked on the deck.
>>23636106Western Battletech-y mechs are tanks. Anime mechs are aircraft. Evangelion is just actual unhinged women fighting while their kids yell suggestions like a genuinely depressing worldstar video.
AND THEY SAY REDUCTIVISM IS BAD!
(you)23636172Then why are you here?
>>23636106>>23636287In these times when I question which region of mecha is better I always consult this video and go to bed knowing it all came from the place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLtohZ7Z_-I
AtlasCHADS are taking over!
>>23636106It's all so tiresome.
>>23636345Arms Forts
>>23636106>yfw when /v/ is less gayer than /m/reminder that /v/ ac/mecha threads are more cultured than the fucking mecha board.
I get the feeling they were probably stealing from any number of Japanese kits that found their way into American hobby shops.
>>23636106If atlas is so cool. Why is it constantly outshined by the madcat?Besides inner sphere mechs are for fucking faggots
>>23636106Look at you your sissy little curves. Come back when you're square enough boy.
>>23636287>>23637994Scopedog looks too bottom_heavy. Granted, it's supposed to be rolling around and all, but those overly pronounced legs make it look toyish.
>>23637327>Japanese mecha is power armoured mobile infantry subjected to island gigantismhuh...
>>23639203Nobody asked retard
>>23638945this is the embodiment of peak masculinity in metal form according to op
>>23636106all of your “bulky western mechs” source back to 80s and early 90s anime designs. Battletech machines are from Macross, go fuck yourself
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>>23637995Type-D. My beloved world boss. Also holy fuck I thought Emperor Titan was bigger.
>>23636106I prefer western style mechs, especially chicken walkers, but I like both
>>23641931I hate western mechs cause it's almost always chicken leg shit. Chicken legs defeats the whole purpose of bipedalism. Hence why Chicken legs don't exist irl. >inb4Pic related retards. Keep making your gay and slow ass walkers. Theres a reason eastern mechs dominated the pop culture.
>>23642154yeah but who cares about all that gay shit, they look cool
>>23639203It looks better in action than lineart
>>23642452>>23639203Scopedogs are a great and sensible design. For some reason thing strong legs are somehow anathema to the western pig reverse legs fans.
>>23636106Sure.
>>23636106>>23637994>>23641877Indeed...
>>23648930
I am so fucking disappointed i can't find a non-watermarked version of this image.
>>23651733Only western design there is sym bionic titan
>>23642154The very second people pull shit like this on /m/ it heads towards one conclusion.remember the /m/antra guys:>LEGS ARE IMPRACTICALStop bringing this crap to the table it looks cool and thats it.
>>23651915Syd Mead designed Turn A Gundam, honey.
>>23651925I keep saying that legs on most mechs are also used as jumping/landing gear as in starship troopers. Treads are a different concept. >>23651911Fucked up that they made it hard canon that all titans are actually pretty small. Like not really tiny but absolutely no mountain sized ones at all, ever.
>>23636106gungriffon series have nice bulky mech design
>>23652048>hard canonSource? Emperor titans have been described as so large that imperial guardsmen go insane in disbelief how huge something can be, visible from space, and a missed shot from a solex cannon causes rapid global warming and destroys the very planet they're standing on. There is no true "hard canon" on their exact size but i just go by the poetic description from literature as a guide.
>>23651925What was it that had some sort of leg with wheels/treads in it and it kicked a guy and spun the wheel/tread into his face in the manner of a belt sander?
>>23652276Since they started making models of them again. 55 metres for an emperor titan. The old models weren't that huge either. It's just BL taking poetic liberty like usual. Eva 01 is taller than an emperor titan by like a 3rd, and even the largest maybe-canon figures put it eye to eye with an emperor titan, ignoring only the spires on top. Big Zam is also slightly taller.You can't sell a model that can't fit on the table, and they want it to play nice at 6mm for epic.
>>23651925It's important because reverse legs are not digitigrade.alsohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I44_zbEwz_wlet's see your ugly ass chicken leg which you insist in shoehorning everwhere do that.
>>23652317WSIT I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS AWESONE AS FUCKWHAT WAS IT FUCK
>>23652769Sounds like another case of the fans treated warhammer better than GW does. Id rather side with the guy who made a "true scale" emperor titan.Doesnt fit on a table but you can always play on the floor!
>>23653110Almost everything that fans think is "canon warhammer" is just decades of hearsay and fanlore. I've never seen a community that knows so little about it's own object of obsession. It's like watching a bunch of kids hyping each other up with urban legends and it gets a little more ridiculous each time.
>>23653134Thats kind of what warhammer is though. Its a mega rediculous OP power trip. You need that retarded fanbase with the hyper passion to fuel it. Like you said earlier: GW will make it less impressive so it can sell. If warhammer was JUST titans then they wouldn't have to worry about scaling them relative to 10ft space marines.
>>23652958Wait when was i shoehorning chicken legs? I like all types of apendages if it looks cool. I was just telling you that in the sense of large machines: all legs are inferior in every field compared to continuous tracks so arguing practicality is silly.Also why would you use boston friggin dynamics as an example against reverse apendages? Those guys just do legs small scale.
>>23652276>Emperor titans have been described as so large that imperial guardsmen go insane in disbelief how huge something can beThat doesn't necessarily prove anything because an imperial guardsman could well be a medieval peasant from a planet where crossbows are considered high-tech.
Both bulk-design and sleek-design are pretty good, for different reasons.
>>23653342>. I was just telling you that in the sense of large machines: all legs are inferior in every field compared to continuous tracks so arguing practicality is silly.Oh REALLY?!
>>23653547Admittedly the physics work out a little differently if we're talking about machines for ants.
>>23651915
>>23653551Sorry, hard to find large pics of the Menzi Muck making the most of its dynamic legs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af1J1AbWqH8
>>23653547Yeah except thats a mega specific thing. And i admit it looks cool as fuck but it only uses the legs like outriggers to make itself level. It still uses wheels to move because thats more efficient.
>>23653586>It still uses wheels to move because thats more efficient.It also has to be air lifted to a lot of its job sites, does that mean helicopters are more practical than continuous tracks?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_XiSfdIvo0
>>23653561 how did they fuck up so bad with the kinect steel battalion
>>23653561The apostrophe is particularly infuriating.
>>23653561Just the smallest of edits, for consideration.
>>23653611considering drones are raping billion dollar tanks, yeah.
>>23653611Well thats more /m/ i suppose
>>23651733>list say "western mech">post east mechs
>>23654877
>>23637327Argonbolt's stuff is fantastic. Best /m/ youtuber by a country mile.
>>23636226Nah, 40k oldfag here. My fanbase will chew aluminium foil before admitting it, but ACs and plenty of Gundams (albeit higher end ones) have taken out enemies more dangerous.a d resiliant than Titans. Even Emperor-Class Titans tend to be surrounded by the vast armies fighting alongside them, and even they would likely be overwhelmed if not for the fact that it's merely the biggest fighting target in an environment rich with them. Void shields absolutely DO get overwhelmed, Titans DO fall, and it's not always another Titan than brings them down.Even Space Marines die perfectly often to fairly mundane military means by our standards or sometimes just fighting hive scum on occasion, but ask a 40kfag and suddenly a scout would body John-117 himself in-armor, and whatever you do, don't EVER bring up that time a Harlequin (as in NOT a Solitaire, a fucking Harlequin) killed a bunch of Custodes in the imperial palace itself during the War of the Beast, they REALLY like to pretend those books, and by extension that shit, didn't happen.When 40k stuff gets in vs debates, they DO usually win, but on the same basis that their victories usually materialize in-universe; no matter how powerful or deadly your forces are, you simply won't have enough ammunition or resources to fight the Imperium and you WILL lose eventually. It's just a matter of time. They will always have more to throw at you, and they care about winning even the smallest fight more than humans of any other era or setting could possibly comprehend.
>>23657954>power level faggot shit>m.jpg>a dfuck off
>>23657954Not really, I mean the Imperium may always 'have' more but not necessarily more they can send at you because the Imperium has thousands of active conflicts, but that's playing by 40k's setting rules, let's play by another one.Imagine for a moment a setting like Gundam, now imagine the entire solar system for unified in common purpose (like say... out of a need to defend itself from an empire of a million worlds). It'd take time to build up but casually looking online at other people who have done the math on this for what could theoretically be achieved from the resources in the real solar system, 60 billion colonies that can hold 1 million people each? Lets halve it to 30 billion colonies for materials for other things, does 5 mobile suits per colony seem reasonable? 150 billion mobile suits. Imperium still probably wins because of some solar system killer a tech priest has locked away from the DAOT but that's a different question.Yes the Imperium flattens all factions presented in UC, but UC unintuitively by being more realistic has insane unrealized conventional military potential compared to 40k.Something something Remembrance of Earth's Past, something something Xeelee.
>>23657954>even emperor-Stopped reading. You dont know 40k and are full of shit.
>>23658124>60 billion colonies that can hold 1 million people each?60,000,000,000 x 1,000,000 = 60,000,000,000,000,000 total people? nah mansorry, I'mma be that guy but in UC lore they only maxed out at like 10 billion people living in space, and that's right before they started the wars that decimated the human space-living population. also the databooks with the craziest high numbers for MS production say maybe like 9000 total Zakus were built and that was already more than the Feds' total. if we're being generous then maybe 15000 MS total ever built (including destroyed) at the end of the one year war UC time.https://www.gundamunofficial.com/archive/entertainmentbible39.htmlhttps://mechatalk.net/viewtopic.php?t=11881https://mechatalk.net/viewtopic.php?p=182878#p182878
>>23658417That's why the system state is a hypothetical.
>>23638909I mean aren't battletechs early designs literally stolen from macross?
>>23658725The point is they didn't stop there.
>>23658725No. They were leased.
>>23636106>bulky western mechs are cooler than anime feminine sharp edges mechsThey really aren't and western mechs have more shapes than feminine. That being said I still like a lot of western mech designs also, its a shame aside from sybionic titan and megas xlr westerners can't make a mech show to save their lives...
>>23657590>Argonbolt's stuff is fantastic. Best /m/ youtuber by a country mile.Only because he's like the only mecha youtuber doing anything in 2025 lol. That being said i'm enjoying his reviews of the "Eva Clones".
>>23658741>The point is they didn't stop there.yeah but the ones that came afterwards aren't as good looking
>>23661616>No. They were leased.And then they just went to them for JapTech.
>>23661616They weren't. TCI lied to FASA about that and left them holding the bag when Harmony Gold was out for blood.
>>23666291What was that whole debacle? I hear bits and pieces constantly and apparently it'd only recently everything was all settled?
>>23667679Apparently TCI thought they had the image rights to what would become the "Unseen" but they didn't......But then it turns out Harmony Gold didn't hold them either, and recently a judge checked their shit for their constant legal warfare, all because Piranha Games were the only ones to actually challenge them on it.
>>23667679>>23667703TCI was an importer for all kinds of Japanese hobby products (model kits, board games, magazines, etc) and would sometimes work with the official companies to re-package stuff for the American market. For example, they got Bandai to let them rebrand Yamato kits with the Starblazers logo. That meant they could get plenty of raw artwork from Japanese companies, which they appeared to do with the Nitto and Nichimo kits that Fasa repackaged with early versions of Battletech. They sure as fuck weren't getting proper clearance as any other instance of a fully licensed Macross or Dougram product had a company logo on it. Just look at any vintage Jetfire or those weird Monogram Gobots kits that were just rebranded Mospeada stock. Both had the Tatsunoko seahorse and full credit to any other Japanese companies involved. At best TCI gave Tatsunoko and Sunrise a "Special Thanks" to cover their asses. Fasa wasn't one to look a gift horse in the mouth and didn't question any of this until years later when they get involved with the Exosquad debacle.
>>23667764I think your demonizing TCI a little too much here, you have to remember that International Copyright Laws didn't exist until this point.I don't think there is much resentment from the other side of the Pacific, especially since FASA went to Studio Nue and Shōji Kawamori for the Japanese print of BattleTech.
>>23651911Google lens is your friend
Tank turrets with legs is where it's at
>>23667703>because Piranha Games were the only ones to actually challenge them on itIt was a money issue. Piranha was bankrolled in the lawsuit by Microsoft, because they're the ones who actually own the Mechwarrior IP. FASA and CGL folded on their respective lawsuits because they were/are small, tinpot operations without the cash to fight an uncertain IP lawsuit.
>>23668463Fairly certain FASA and Catalyst didn't have a suit against Piranha, it was more that they didn't have the backing to counter-sue Harmony Gold.
like me battletech. like me gundam. simple as.
>>23667854Pet peeve of mine, artists that don't understand how gatlings work and think they are volley guns. That "Macro gatling blaster" can't rotate.
>>23651925Guntank bros
>>23638922People loves the Timber Wolf because of Mechwarrior games.Tabletop chads loves the Atlas.
>>23648930>>23651733Both are just toys you fucking manchildren.
>>23638909No necks.
>>23636106>bulky wester mechsshit aint even over 1km long and over 20k tons, shut you bitch ass up
>>23636287You forgot Kawamori.
>>23667837>I think your demonizing TCI a little too much here,No, they were being extremely stupid and it didn't take much to see what they did was wrong. There were plenty of prior and concurrent examples they don't get a pass.
>>23653966I'm pretty sure Helghast combat armor isn't technically /m/.
>>23658124>UC unintuitively by being more realistic has insane unrealized conventional military potential compared to 40k.It helps that innovation isn't a capital offense in the UC setting.
>>23658725And Dougram. And Crusher Joe.
>>23668759>like me western mecha.>like me eastern mecha.>simple as.FTFY
>>23682811RESPECT THE ROBOT!
>>23682843I will not respect the robot.
