Hard mode update came out I still won’t buy this game until a mod or update lets me play as a real mecha, I refuse to play as a terminator humandface clanker
>>23643754>you play as a cute robot girlNot bad, might give this a t->you also kill cute robot girlsFucking ruined, into the trash it goes.
>>23643850I don’t wanna play as a girl
>>23643850What if some of those Robot girls were super duper evil?
>>23643754How are the aesthetics later on? I played the demo and it was very grey and quiet. Reminded me of dark souls somewhat with how gloomy and joyless the atmosphere was. The mech(a musume) also felt pretty slow and kinda weak. The combat also felt a bit monotone but I can chalk that up to it being early game. Does it get more stylish later on?
>>23651403Define stylish. As anons tell you it's classic Armored core style gameplay, if you're expecting tighter melee, that's not really gonna happen, maybe vol.2 they might tweak melee more than one hit and to be less situational, but the game is very shooter oriented. General speed of the gameplay, that however does pick up.
>>23643754Just use Gypro-Verde parts, you can turn yourself into minitank or tachikoma.>>23651403It's mostly Blame!-like industrial sites and city ruins. Upper levels are clean and more sci-fi, middle levels are industrial warzone. Lower levels are ruins in desert full of parasites and infected plants, definitely the coolest one visually.
Anyone know how to mod UE4 stuff? I really want to increase projectile speeds for enemies and the player, weapons feel really weak and underwhelming.
>>23649630I am sad there were no mesugakis, just a tsundere tank.
Well I bought it. It's pretty fun although too slow for my taste. I don't like how the "sprint" drains your energy and the weird turn speed thing isn't great either.
>>23659188Fixed turn speed was in all armored cores except 6, and I dont remember but normal boosting consumed energy on the older games too. AC4 and 6 have infinite boost.
Did they fix the missile tracking? I only used the HALVR because it was the only one that consistently hit the target, which I'm fairly sure is not what they intended.
>>23659188You can make energy less of a chore if you tune your EP, you get more tuning points from killing hostile Nymphs. Also different frame parts have different energy consumption for movement, so try swapping them too.
Lol, doing a quick boost while boosting with the fastest wheeled legs SLOWS YOU DOWN. Janky asf.
>>23661063that's why we love this game
>androidsGive us sexy robots, fucking cowards
>>23659252IIRC gen 4 had constant energy regen so you'd usually just outregen the boost cost, and in gen 5 it was free and a toggle which you'd only turn off for a quickdrop.
>>23664016The dolls all look like t-800s, they use faceplates and hair for fashion.
>>23664016Anon, how many mecha musume games are out there? You can count right?
>>23666743>musumeDid I stutter?
>>23667082Probably. You sound pretty gay and annoying.
>>23667082Don't waste your energy on the fleshfuckers.
Fucking porn addicts.
>>23667082>>23667117lol fallout is gay
Why can't furries just accept that they aren't the target audience?
>>23667317We prefer the term; clanker clapper
>>23667874No you guys are furries, the whole "not robot enough" phenomena where people bitch about robot girls being "generic" came from furries larping as mecha weebs.
>>23664016>>23667082Anon, instead of whining that other games aren't doing what you want, you should do what the devs of Dolls Nest did and make your own game that fufills whatever niche you want.
>>23668310
>>23668608CAW CAW CAW
>>23668847>animal-themed mechaImpressive, very nice. Looks great.
>>23660269Played it a bit today and missiles do hit the targets just fine as long as the targets remain stationary.
>>23643754Is there some kind of flashlight part or are you stuck with throwing glowing rocks?
>>23671744There's a back part for it, but I recall it sucking. The rocks are easier. It's one of those ones where the map isn't as complex as it seems, so you can learn it really fast.
>>23671758The first map is honestly the easiest to get lost in even after you clear and come back to it. Only the great forest is about on par.
>>23671784The funny thing is, I thought the first locked door was some super secret because I guess I just overlooked it on the first playthrough. Imagine my disappointment when I went through the area again and realized it was just a shortcut to the boss room.
>>23668847neatrobo girls with no face but still with hair is a good combination
>>23668310Lovely feet.
https://x.com/AUTOMATON_ENG/status/2000913808731095101The release of Dolls Nest made this the most lucrative year for Nitroplus in a long while.
>>23672850It's nice that nice things can still happen occasionally. Too many disappointments lately.
>>23672850>mech action game>with no mechs in itSince when anything robotic at all is being categorized as a mech?Yeah, I know where the word mecha came from but still.
>>23673129They're robot girls wearing stuff that's effectively oversized power armor. Or is power armor not mecha?>with no mechs in itLike 75% of the shit you murder in the game are mechs. Not unless you explicitly define mech as stuff that needed to be piloted by someone or something.
>>23673129I dunno man, looking at this screenshot I see one giant mech, and an AC where the core part is replaced with a cute girl.
>>23673135>Not unless you explicitly define mech as stuff that needed to be piloted by someone or something.Yeah.
>>23673140>one giant mech,Is it manned? If not, it's just a robot.>and an AC where the core part is replaced with a cute girl.And human sized robot where the mecha part is replaced with a musume part, more like.I did enjoy the game, more than I'm willing to admit even, but this is just misclassification leading to false advertising. If it's supposed to be a mecha game, then it better have the player (character) sit inside and control a proper gianto robotto. This game is such a mixed bag, on one hand, the nymphs are handling more like a proper robotic vehicles (so mecha) than the ACs from AC6, which for the most part just felt like characters with verniers strapped on. On the other hand, they're both just human sized and human looking anime robololi abominations and I can't say I care much about that.
>>23643850homeboy cant play citadel cause he'd rather protect waifus instead of killing.honorable, but still a foolish parameter for choosing to not have fun
>>23671945Same, it felt like the game would really benefit from having more secret areas and maybe some secret bosses. Then again they were propably exhausted and strapped for cash by the end so I can't blame them too much.>>23672850Genuinely great news. I was worried that DL would be too niche with trying to mix up mecha musume with AC gameplay and grounded visuals but hearing that it performed well for Nitroplus is awesome. Hopefully proper expansion or sequel is on the table now. Also no point in engaging with obvious baiting retardation from western/eastern real/not real mecha/mech/robot autismo threads.
>>23673224tiresome autistic pedantry that isnt even correct, classic
>>23673224Mate shut the fuck up with this shit already. I don't care how frustrated you are, the chance of someone making a megastructure game with DeS level design and oversized mechs was even lower than that of a mecha-musume AC-like being made, and that was already a fucking miracle.If you want more mecha games, you'll get them. If you want more AC games that actually play like AC and not AC6, there's already at least 3 promising doujin titles in development. Mechagirl games barely exist.And to claim "Mecha-musume" or メカ少女 isn't mecha is fucking stupid. Either way, what false advertisement, anyone can see from any screenshot what you're actually going to be playing as. Wanna argue it should also be advertised as a third person shooter instead?
>>23673754You know what, mate? You're alright. I'll stop bitching just for you, just because I like the pic you posted. Cheers.
>>23667163The internet summed up in one sentence.
>>23675700gooners are free speech warriors, unlike mealy mouthed detached ironybros who stand for nothing except in group signalling
Playing for the first time but is Leki supposed to be this much of a difficulty spike?
Are any more content updates or dlc planned or is this it?
>>23680516Yes that's normal because her shotgun can rape you and she hides behind her shield a lot, so you can't just fight her head on like most other bosses. Either wait for her to expose her back or cheese her with poison rifle.>>23680527We just don't know.
>>23680527We don't know yet but it definitely doesn't seem like it's a one and done.
>>23680540>>23680542Okay, thanks, I guess I'll get it now.
>>23680527PvP is still coming if nothing else. There are already traces of it in 1.2.0 files (NetUpdateFrequency on parts).
>>23680605Wait seriously? Did they announce that at some point or is it speculation based on datamines only?
>>23680712It was even playtested at TGS.https://nitter.net/Dolls_Nest/status/1968585787240497214
>>23680516Leki is the cunt in the flower field? Just bait her overhead smash and blast her ass with a shotgun lol.
>>23680540>>23680931Yeah what I ended up doing was baiting her with the overhead smash but instead of any guns which all seemed to be doing piss all no matter where I hit her I hit her with the DRK which I was fuckin around with in the area you get that and it clicked that that would work. Just hold the charge until shes ready boost in and bonk.
Is the water treatment level the top of the nests? I guess the big sun thing is an exposed reactor core?
>>23683708The entirety of Hod is still inside that fuckhuge crater in the planet.The upper levels/Alqand territory is effectively the top of the megastructure they all live in yes, but its still inside the aforementioned crater.>I guess the big sun thing is an exposed reactor core?You mean the literal sun/light source we see? I'm actually not sure about that. The power source/scifi magic material that everything in Hod runs on is Cells. I think the "sun" we see underground is really just an artificial sun that was either made by the Nymphs themselves or the human civilization that inhabited Hod before everything went to shit. Probably either to light the place up and make it less depressing, or at least provide a constant heat source.
>>23685080>that fuckhuge crater in the planet?
>>23685409Doll's Nest is set in a chasm where a nanomachine weapon went apeshit. The superstructure the game takes place in something that goes towards the center of the planet.If the symbolism doesn't strike you in the head like a sledgehammer hard enough, the main menu theme of the game is literally called "Reverse Babel"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Xe-2ot0BMNehma outright says that Hod continues growing and that even she doesn't know how deep it goes now. Implying that even now, the autonomous functions of Hod continue eating and expanding into the planet's center.
A lot of stuff in the game is kept vague and open to interpretation, but I think it generally goes:- Metametria, the local mega corporation discovers cells and makes factories/research facilities for it.- Said Metametria facility develops nanomachine technology and weapons, a notable breakthrough being autonomous lifeforms. Said location is what becomes known as "Hod" later down the line - Some apocalyptic shit happens that never is elaborated upon, resulting in Humans being eradicated from Hod. Either way, the autonomous cell-based lifeforms become the rulers of Hod- The Central Pacific Trade Organization sends in drones to investigate the fallen Metametria facilities, a zone now given the code name by the rest of humanity as "Doll's Nest"- More blank spots in the timeline here. The ultimate fate of humanity is left ambiguous, but it can be inferred that the forces of Hod eventually wiped out the rest of humanity or made them outright fuck off and abandon the planet.Humanity MIGHT still be around, but realistically, humans probably won't be happy with a huge colony of self-replicating terminator anime robot ant girls being their neighbour. We'd be sending nukes Hod's way like every wednesday if we're still around. And since Hod has been thriving for a long time and the average modern Nymph doesn't even seem to be worried about human wars, much less know about humans in the first place, more than likely, Humanity was wiped out by Hod or left the planet permanently.And that's just humanity's footprint in the game. Hod and Nymphs themselves have their own complicated history once they became sentient and developed their own cultures and societies. But that's a lorefag dump for another day.
>>23673224>the ACs from AC6, which for the most part just felt like characters with verniers strapped onI dunno why people keep bleating about this when a full half of mecha anime or more very clearly animate them as moving like people with verniers, leading to the weirdest fucking situation where if a gundam in a videogame fights like it does in it's own anime... it's not mecha anymore?Or hell, the opposite, where actual synthetic humanoids are praised for being authentic mecha vehicle gameplay just because they turn slow?
>>23685426I think its just the weird physics, something that big just cant turn that fast and then stop turning instantly without spending huge amounts of energy. But I guess it would be too annoying to have even turning around consuming your boost gauge.
Didnt know the fetus thingies could break.
Idk where to go in the level The Fault. I've found this church area, but ascending from there goes nowhere. I found some kind of Blue Code or something at the top, but, it doesnt appear in my inventory. Also, there's this elevator next to the rail shortcut that idk how to get to.
>>23686428nvm found it lol, turns out I needed to go the other way somewhere.
>>23685424I doubt that humanity would feel threatened by Nymphs since Nymphs keep getting overran by Variants or devastated in wars with each other. If anything, Nymphs come off as relatively weak civilization since smaller colonies can barely survive and big ones waste all their resources fighting other colonies, like in some pointless third world tribal wars. It's likely that humanity would be much more worried about Variants, going by the implications of headless drone reactor quest.
>>23685705>I think its just the weird physics, something that big just cant turn that fast and then stop turning instantly without spending huge amounts of energy.>But I guess it would be too annoying to have even turning around consuming your boost gaugeThis would make the arms sensible (just ghetto-shoot a mothafucka on your flank instead of turning) and would force pilots into cool maneuvers instead of the boring face-to-face combat all the time where you never were doing any flips or acrobatics anyway to justify the rigidity as a formula.You'll get what I mean by maneuvers if you ever did gen 1-4 melee-only arena runs while relying basically only on the radar Take AC6 controls layout and swap the dumb "boost switch" with legs&torso&arms turning unity switch. Boom it's done, congrats on leaving the "circle strafe" overdone combat loop
>>23686653The whole Nymph sense of self and tribalism thing only came after Nehma got bored and started playing god I think.The earliest Nymphs looked distinctly more doll-like and robotic. And they explicitly had no ego or emotions. They were pretty much just robotic killing machines in every sense of the word. These were probably the forces of Hod that humanity fought against. The code name they gave Hod says its all. It was "Dolls Nest" not, "Freaky Insect Techno Necromorph Nest".After winning the war against humanity, Nehma probably got bored and decided to turn Nymphs more human-like to entertain herself/run simulations/gather data whatever. We know that Nymph colonies fighting and betraying each other was something Nehma engineered by design.
>>23686653>>23687601Nehma also says that Variants and Nymphs are fundamentally the same thing. That is to say, they're the same kind of cell/nanomachine lifeforms that Hod made.The difference being that Nymphs were Variants that were guided down a specific evolutionary line and blessed with intelligence and purpose courtesy of Nehma. Whilst the Variants that we do know of were essentially the same nanomachine lifeforms left to their own devices with no purpose other than their base needs of survival and multiplying.
>>23687601>Dolls NestDolls Nest is just as likely a reference to Nehma herself. She is the "Doll" and it is her nest. Nehma clearly has a deeper connection to Hod, having some administrative powers there with her eye thing. Nehma is also the only NPC in game to reference humans in her lines (the rest are item descriptions), unlike Nymphs that don't seem to acknowledge humans at all.>After winning the war against humanityProblem here is that all information relating to humans and chronological order of events in the game is so vague that we don't even know if humans even shared the same time frame with Variants and Nymphs. It's possible humans was long gone by the time Nymphs appeared.We have many descriptions of Nymphs fighting Variants and each other, but nothing confirming the same with humans or that they even met humans. There are no descriptions like "Nymphs overwhelmed humans and forced them out of Hod". This is contrary to how the game confirms that Variants attacked and overwhelmed Lower level colonies. There are no descriptions like "Nymphs killed all humans and took gear from them". This is contrary to how the game describes Gardina scaveging Gypro-Verde (GOGL) after they won. Every description of Nymphs interacting with human technology is more like scavenging something unkown and abandoned some time ago:>learning about it from manuals (Keris)>taking it from still running autonomous factories, so no human presence needed for these (hand grenades)>not understanding the purpose or function of human weapons (Caladbolg)None of these confirm active human presence at the time it happened. What I mean is that unless we get more additional lore like from DLC, I don't really agree with the whole humans-Nymphs war thing. Game gives no real explanation as to what happened to humanity, at what point and if there's still anyone outside alive like CPTO, so best to keep it to "humans are not in Hod anymore and it's a big mystery why".
I don't know why you people are still debating on the continued existence of humanity when the game itself spells out they're all fucking gone.Description of the Gladius literally spells it out. Humanity is fucking gone. Now I suppose the bigger question people can argue and lorefag about is what brought about said extinction. Or maybe the technicality of "they're extinct insofar in the planet, but maybe they fucked off to space or something."
>>23687836The various Metametria equipment used by Nymphs are the best glimpses of the world the predated the age of Hod and Nymphs.>ScimitarSo there apparently was an energy crisis on the planet before. But the discovery and development of cell technology solved said crisis. Unfortunately, humans are innately murderhobos so the discovery of highly efficient energy just lead to humans creating more efficient ways to kill each other.>Morning Star>HalberdSeems that traditional soldiers were still deployed against mechanical enemies. Humanity didn't shift to completely mechanical warfare. Good ol GI Joes still went akimbo against robot scum.>KerisHollow-point bullets are considered no fun allowed even by our present day rules, and that rule still apparently applied even in the scifi future with Metametria. The last line here in particular can imply a lot depending on your interpretation though. Did it imply a time where Humans actually used said bullets against Nymphs? Or is it just a cheeky way of saying that in the age of Nymphs, human rules no longer applied?On a related note, while there are a lot of Metametria made primary arms, there are absolutely no rear weapons made by them. Which would make sense because rear/shoulder weapons are specifically made for Nymph frames, a type of technology that only came to be after the age of humans has passed. Just a neat little bit of logical consistency within the setting.
>>23687892>Or is it just a cheeky way of saying that in the age of Nymphs, human rules no longer applied?It's Herros weapon but interestingly Boldr (poison grenade launcher) somewhat shares similar sentiment.>While the use of weapons utilizing corrosive swarms was considered in the old colony of Arvud, its effects were so lethal that any research was banned it its entirety.>That was the past. Whoever could stop this weapon from being used is long gone by now.So yeah, Nymphs are kinda crazy and not afraid to use unethical weapons.>there are absolutely no rear weapons made by themTrident is Metometria-made rear weapon. But is a vehicle mount modified by Nymphs to be slapped on frame,so yes the lore is nicely consistent.
Tank builds are really shitty to play, the most viable ones are a high rof primary, a melee weapon and fast missiles or cannons as back weapons with the fastest legs you can use.
>>23688560I think if more of the rear mounted weapons weren't steaming dogshit it might have helped.Basically everything besides missles, sniper, and some of the higher-stat artillery is fucking useless. So there's no real incentive to use a heavy build when you can just be fast and still use the best weapons.It makes me wonder how much the game was even tested, the difference in dps between some of the weapons is mind-boggling.
NAGARA DAMASHII and your good ol reliable DPS gun of choice is all you need.Shoulder ""weapons"" are just extra drip to complete the look you want and you'll almost never use them except maybe for emergency cases where you need one extra tap to finish off an opponent with a sliver of health left and all your primary arms are still in cooldown/reload.
>>23688671I never could get those missiles to work for me.
>>23688680It's not a very good weapon.It's a nice pseudo wing accessory though.And the animation of the wing missile pods opening individually is really sexy too.
>>23688671The sniper cannons and the large missile are the only ones that are really worth it. The sniper cannons let you kill things that you couldn't otherwise hit and the large missile is guaranteed damage with no downsides to using it.
>>23688622I imagine it was a situation like Satisfactory where the devs just didn't realize what kind of autism they were tapping into.>yeah, we'll just make a silly little Armored Core clone, how hard can it be?>holy shit this game is blowing up>holy SHIT these players expect a lot from us
There was no mesugaki nymph, even AI Limit had a brown mesugaki boss.
>>23691253> AI Limitwow that looks boring
>>23689031>killing things from far awayGay.
>>23691509it's better than dark souls and melee only games
>>23691518Can't wait for pvp to be enabled to hunt for little faggots with sniper cannons.
>>23691934>implying that you can ever get a lockon on nothing personnel kid WAGA YAIBA players
just picked this up for sale, are melee weapons just like this with a single swipe then long cooldown, or are there better attack animations locked behind different weapons.
>>23692325The animations are usually the same between melee weapon subtypes And some have very short cooldowns or charging attacksYou should try 2 melee weapons loadout The cam placement is the worst one possible for melee but it's viable to get used to
>>23692336eh, might focus on ranged thenI get what they were going for, it's just like the AC4A laser blade swing, but that shit sucked ass to control.
>>23692015Cool, I just dismissed the optical camo as a gimmick, didnt know it works on nymph bosses.
>>23692393You should see the jap multiplayer ac4a videos, once you learn how to use the blades you are unstoppable.
>>23692619> didnt know it works on nymph bosses.It didn't. At least not as well as you'd expect it to. Bosses detect camo really quickly. If you watch it again closely, she turned at the last second and negated the backstab/weak point damage bonus.
>>23692622While you were gooning to the Itano Circus, I mastered the blade.
>>23668847If she was an NPC she would be the chuuniest one.
I dunno if it's my build or what, but accuracy as a mechanic feels really fucked in this gameI'll be standing still, on flat ground, locked on, against a target that's barely moving, and then my little retard fires right at the fucking floor in front of her. Those floating bastards in the upturned forest are a humongous headache because she just refuses to actually hit them. Not even AC1 had targeting this bad
>>23694348A lot of the weapons are just plain shit in that regard. See most of the back/shoulder weapons.
>>23694348You need to use weapons with fast bullet speed or just use legs with high jump so you can blast the annoying lamp things in the face.
Where's this flower I need to find for the Church? The guides say it's near the boss room in the Forbidden Zone, but there is nothing here.
Nvm, found it. Guides are just wrong. It's actually down in the poison swamp.
>>23691253It's up to you to make your own brown Nymphs
>>23694851>>23691253I don't hate it, but I just want my tiny robot daughterus to blast shit in RL locations.
I just finished NG1. Are there alternative story paths, or is it the same two options at the end?I really enjoyed the game, not what I was expecting, but scratched the mecha itch. I kind of wish they went all in on exploring a megastructure like the first level seemed to imply they were going for.
>>23694955Most of the sidequests have multiple endings, depending on which order you talk to the NPCs in.
>>23694348Most rear weapons don't use predictive lock at all, and missiles always home in but often very poorly. Also predictive lock fails consistently on the jumping enemies because it expects them to keep going up or underground if you fire while they're in motion.Other than that it should all be fairly, well, predictable.
>>23694983>MostShould have said all. Missiles also technically don't use it.
>>23668847>>23694851I wish I was autistic enough to make cool fashion builds like this instead of being a metaslave.
>>23695024What was that other game called - the postapoc one where you could dress your teenage character up as an edgy goth Kingdom Hearts character?
>>23695067Code Vein?
>>23695067That's a lot of gamesGod Eater maybe?
>>23695024Blame the game balance
>>23680931>>23682330i don't get itfully charged plasma cannon and shotgun barely do anything even though I blast it when she's exposed after the smashI got in that world right after the starting one and i gotta say it's full of annoying stuff
>>23695380Accumulation Zone is not the best one to start with. I would do Great Forest first.
>>23695380>shotgunMost shotguns are kinda bad, use Bulz, Melee or SMGs.>annoying stuffYou picked the hardest first area to explore, Leki is also among the harder bosses.
>>23695475>>23695574I mean, would coming back later change anything? my weapons would need to be like +15 to make a dent at this rate
>>23695777Your build is just unoptimized, nymph bosses go down super fast with the right weapons.
>>23695777just bait the dives and then circle behind with an smg, use a support unit with the attack drones for double the dps and just spam all your weapons together.
>>23695777Upgrading your weapons would help a lot. You can also cheese her with poison if you want easy solution.>>23695867Unless he accidently activated hard mode at the start.
>>23696410What does the hard mode do?
>>23696415>What does the hard mode do?- Everything trying to kill you is slightly beefier and noticeably gives more damage- Bosses have unique hard mode exclusive attacks and patterns- Cell repair costs upon dying is raised, but you also gain more Cells upon killing enemies. If you're trying to collect all equipment and empty out shops, it definitely helps.
>>23696417Can you toggle it on/off between the playthroughs?
>>23696419 (Me)Nevermind.
>>23643754I dropped this game after getting the Muramasa armor just to find out it's buttcheeks
I've played through the Forbidden Zone twice now and I still have no idea what those red siren enemies actually do. Are they just there to aggressively honk at you?
>>23696952Spotters for artillery drones. But they can only spot, if there's no artillery around they're harmless.
>>23686653>>23685424You can also kind of interpret some of what's said as Hod being a self-contained arcology completely shut off from the outside world (it might even actually be literally shut off given how its sun is a fake one on top of the dam), in which case it makes sense that there are no humans in there, with the only traces being stuff from before it was fully established or scout drones like Talking Head being sent in.
>>23687861The translation is dodgy MTL, JP text just says the humans are gone which could mean as in from Hod.
>>23694955Two endings for the main story, multiple endings for the NPC sidequests (like one NPC has 3 different conclusions even if you ignore the premature bad ending failstates where you fuck up early)
>>23695777It's doable with crappy weapons if you just figure out her patternshttps://youtu.be/QnjglSQir_8?list=PLyaU6eWzn2EQWux4qaoADYjjOmRODXUCp&t=6727
>>23696459same but Cthugha and Ithaqua
Saw this a while back and I've had my eye on it. Bought it, what the fuck am I playing? It's like blame, armored core, dark souls, and girls last tour had a rape baby. Fun so far.
>>23697803yeah I don't get ithaqua, tested it on the training range and it does absolutely nothing
>>23697508skimming through that vid idk how he still got enough ammo after such an excruciatingly long fight, doesn't even seem to get ep from hitting her weak pointsanyways i'll do as the other anons advised and go back when I have cheesy weapons, her patterns are easy enough but I'm not gonna inflict the chore of chipping at her to myself
>>23694348It's a little counterintuitive but the lockon bar isn't for your missiles, it's for your primary weapon. Your shots won't lead until you're fully locked on and your lockon time depends on your weapon's aim rate, so you want the gun with the lowest aim rate possible. The scimitar is probably the best primary because it has both high dps and a very fast lockon time
Now that I think about it, where do they get the wood for all of those crates?
>>23698434I thought the all the wooden crates were left behind by human forces but wouldn't they fall apart given how much time has apparently passed since?
>>23698434Doesn't the forest area have some actual vegetation mixed in?
Is this game decent with mouse and Keyboard? And should I pirate it?
>>23698486>>23698434Ya niggas seriously asking who put the chicken in the wall here.
>>23697953She stays in place after doing the slam and melee doesn't use ammo so just bait the slam and poke her with meleeHer ranged attacks do basically no damage and her melee can't do anything to you if you hover
>>23698434Great bridge area has actual trees.
>>23698434Hod was initially prepped for human habitation.Literal water treatment plants and forest zones exist.There is also a literal merchant colony of Nymphs that go around selling both random curiosities and weapons of mass destruction to other Nymphs. Do you think they just hand carry all their wares?The lore of the game has us be Nehma's sneaky little shit, so all the places we go through in-game are either warzones or restricted zones. Each colony apparently has industrial/civilian zones that should be decently equipped for common daily life and of which the bulk of the colony population of worker/non-combat nymphs reside in. A bit of a missed opportunity that we don't get to explore those areas.
>>23697950The explosion does all the damage so you have to space out right. It's got pretty good specs for a pistol actually, just kind of clunky.
>>23698516Yeah it's fine. Better that way, I'd argue. If you have ADHD you might be annoyed by the turnspeed limiting mechanic, but it's never really an issue.And you should but it if you can, it's a fairly well made passion project.
>>23698853*buyIt's absurdly cheap too, well worth it.
>>23698836> A bit of a missed opportunity that we don't get to explore those areas.Yeah. The game's limited budget in regards to the narrative it wants to tell really shows at times and can be a bit funny, requiring quite a lot of suspension of disbelief.For example, the good end of Hati's questline has you sneak her in to some ruins that are apparently outside the radar of Alqand's church inquisition and she safely hides in the ruins for the rest of the game. The funny bit is that said ruins are like a 2 minute walk away from the main temple and headquarters of the Alqand inquisition.
>>23698878Honestly that end feels incomplete. Alqand in general does.
>>23698878That part was funny.I don't get why the player seedling couldn't have just whisked her off away to the broodchamber hub and join her growing robot harem. I mean Yoyo and Gilli-Vell were able to find their way into the broodchamber just fine on their own.
>>23698893Obviously so you can kill her for her gun.
>>23698893>robot haremDo the nymphs have barbie doll anatomy or do they come with adjustable, swappable or otherwise variable, uh, equipment?
>>23698942Nymphs are incubated from and grow on trees anon.That said, they seem to be a near perfect biomechanical simulacra of humans. They seem to have a perfectly functional digestive system as evidenced by their intestines, so butt stuff isn't out of the question.
>>23698942Outside of queens which seem to reproduce asexually nymphs don't appear to reproduce at all. That said, I see no reason to assume they wouldn't have parts for it given they were modeled after humans, if only for appearances.
Pic related is also apparently the official getup of Alqand Church clergy.So you can't convince me they don't do some religious sex stuff with how they're dressed up. Other colonies have more conventional and modest wear in comparison.
>>23698980>subtle buttcrack indentationsI'm legitimately surprised how modest and un-horny this game is for a Nitro+ release, but nice to see they still but in the details in the stuff that matters.
>>23698980>meanwhile the merchant nymphs all dress in various flavors of cosplay
>>23698989The average Herros Nymph dresses up like a waitress/shopkeep. Which I guess is perfectly on brand for the whole merchant of death and other funny stuff thing they have going.Meanwhile, their diplomats dress up like bunny girls for some reason. Complete with poofy robotic bunny tail on their butts too.
>>23698980Is there a non-faggot way to say I wish there was a less revealing version of thisThe preview with the half-cape made me think it was going to be anime military jacket kino, instead it just looks kinda retarded
>>23699022>Meanwhile, their diplomats dress up like bunny girls for some reasonPeople tend to let their guards down around cute bunny girls. It's a calculated distraction and appeal.
>>23699059>PeopleBut what about the nymphs though?
>>23699022Was there ever an outfit that was attributed to Porokka Nymphs? Always wondered what my favourite autistic rocket junkies looked like.
>>23699407From reading about scifi novel plots, I understand that they made their torch ship engine too weak. That's why they lost.
Looks like we are going to get a mango.I want a brown shortstack mesugaki nymph.
>>23698980What would be the lore of such a lewd dress?Nymphs are like ants, and they don't even fuck, supposedly the queens are tree like organisms.
>>23699920Queens.... Vary. Nemhra is a queen but shes certainly not a tree, and according to some of the nymphs you meet along the way you "smell like a child of the tree" but they then go on to say that such nymphs are basically myth at this point, and theres a whole load of tales about "seedling nymphs" that are akin to fairy stories. So presumably Nymphs have other ways of reproduction.As for the dress, presumably its due to them mimicking Humans but not understanding the hows or whys.>>23698836The entirety of Hod is so massive that I do feel sad we only got to explore a tiny fraction of it. Living spaces, other colonies, the vast expanses, all of them would have been fun to explore. Theres also a lack of NPC's, so areas feel barren. Even the throne room of Aqland feels empty, theres the sleeping empress and her guard and thats it.But then again, they did have limited resources for the game, and considering what the devs had to work with I think we got a good selection. Hopefully future DLC will expand on the game. As others including >>23698884 have said, the Hati questline feels rather incomplete, the only ending that really has any finality to it is if you let her be sacrificed at the church.Some expansions on the questlines would be nice, as would some post-main story stuff, and maybe some more areas, NPC's, and side quests. I would like to see what happens to Hod after Nehma is killed.
is it normal to have huge framedrops at the start of upturned forest? didn't have problems anywhere else
>>23699982Just UE4 things, you need a 9800x3d to run any game using that worthless engine.
>>23699407No, Porokka, Bau-Khan and Favlar all got left out in outfit department.>>23699920That probably is the lore, Nymphs just see it as something fashionable, not lewd. Nymphs do have some interest in fashion, iirc twins outfit description mentions that, so not all outfits have to serve some practical purpose.
>>23699920>What would be the lore of such a lewd dress?They probably just like it is all.Ever since the humanity/sentience OS upgrade Nehma gave them, they got pretty human-like.Yoyo likes collecting stuffed plushies as seen in >>23698836That want Gardina deserter Nymph is constantly scared for her fucking life.And most of Gardina developed tech was made not out of a search for more efficient arms, but out of spite for their Gypro-Verde mothers. A lot what makes Gardina what it is is born from what's essentially a rebellious daughter throwing a tantrum against her mother.
>>23699967>Nemhra is a queen but shes certainly not a treeI feel like there's a bit of semantics here.In a sense, Nehma seems to be the "Queen" of Hod itself instead of being a Queen we know it by Nymph standards. She seems to be more or less the head AI/administrator of the whole structure. And that means she has control of the self-replicating cell/nanomchine functionalities of Hod. And that involves hand-crafting new Nymphs herself. And these specific group of Nehma made Nymphs are what we know as Seedlings. The Nymph creation/incubation process seems to be what we see in the PV and the few cocoons/sacs we see in the starting area of the game. Other Queens probably just copy that process.The whole Queen system of Nymphs seem to just be basically just receiving an authorization key from Nehma to use the same tools she uses. And part of the process seems to be said Nymph being integrated into Hod itself via the tree process. And that's why after Eden's butthurt rebellion, there were no new Queens being created because the entity responsible for delegating access keys to Hod's self-replication systems is currently impaled as a lawn ornament. Eden realized this, and tried a bunch of things, only ending in failure. From attempting to create her own Nymph-Queen process, which resulted in the tragic abomination that is Shara, a failed Queen that is only able to birth aborted Nymph parts. To creating her own puppet Nehma, something that also failed and only left batshit insane Nymphs like Silas, still delusively trying to create a new "holy progenitor". But at the end of the day, even Eden herself seems to have realized that Hod still recognizes Nehma as its master and everything she done is for nothing. Which is why she seems so defeated and barely doesn't even fight back when you finally confront her at the end of Alqand.
>>23699912Aw shit. Fuckin sweet.>>23700239Eden is an interesting case because aside from the custom plasma handguns she made for herself, all her other gear loadout is older Arvud weaponry.For the supposed fancy pants technologyfag colony that Alqand is, it's a bit weird that their leader personally chooses to use a bunch of older tech. Which is why I think Eden was an Arvud loyalist. Arvud was the first ever colony and Eden was most likely one of the Nymphs birthed by Queen Arvud herself. By default, Nymphs have an innate love and loyalty to their Queen, and I would presume Eden was quite the mommy's girl too.However, since Hod is basically just Nehma playing antfarm goddess, Arvud was probably her control group/first ever case of deploying seedlings to destabilize and destroy a colony. Arvud eventually did fall. And Eden being smarter than most Nymphs realized that there was a shadow master orchestrating everything behind the scenes. And this grudge feud of wanting to avenge Queen Arvud culminated with her turning Nehma into a kebab.Is the huge tree you see in the center of the Decayed Broodchamber supposed to be Queen Arvud's tree corpse? Nehma says that the hub area is quite literally Arvud Colony or at least what remains of it.
>>23700253Nagara seems to have been the dominant colony in the lower levels before they too eventually fell to the Variant hordes.Makes me think that after the fall of Arvud, a bunch of Nymph splinter groups with their own leaders broke off to better pastures and founded their own colonies. But most of the directionless Nymphs that stayed in the remains of Arvud and didn't align themselves with a new leader during the mass balkanization of Arvud were eventually united and brought under the banner of the Nymph that will later be known as Nagara. Her name change unlike her sisters probably being her attempt at a "rebirth" of Arvud.
>>23699912>Art>NykkenThe post-apocalyptic scifi military/mechanical autism aesthetic of Dolls Nest is in competent hands.Not familiar with the writer though. Cursory research shows that he's former Nitroplus staff, but I'm not familiar with any of his works.
>Making a thread about updates for a game you don't playWhat level of autism is this
>Not being able to skip huge portions of the map because they're not flightchads.Can't be me.
>>23700307Pretty cool, I havent really tried to search for shortcuts since you almost always trigger a kill plane.
>>23699920>>23700071>>23700211Okay, but why do Alqand Nymphs have lewder/sluttier sense of aesthetics than literally any other colony.
>>23700364Probably found the porn stash of some of the human explorers.I hope the manga is funny instead of pure depression and robot loli war ptsd.
>>23700307That isn't flying, that's falling with style.
>>23700364>>23700799Hati uses her Alqand Aerial Corps uniform like a sane person despite also being an Aurum Devotee.I think the Prime Church in particular is just kinky instead of Alqand being degenerates in general.
>>23699912Can't wait to see Hati flayed alive in manga form.
>>23699912>>23700799>>23701815One thing I'd actually to like to be made clearer in the manga is how big Nymphs and Frames actually are in general.People call them lolibots, but is that really representative for all of them? Going by the ant sociology Nymphs are very obviously patterned after, I was under the impression that:Soldier Ants = Combat Nymphs = Young Teenage Girl size - Examples being the player Seedling and most of the other Nymphs you encounter in the gameWorker Ants = General/Factory Nymphs = Loli size- Examples being Yoyo and the Nagara twins
>>23701213If the mostly linear forward movement doesn't follow the curvature of the earth and is fast enough to get you further from the core of the planet, it's technically full-fledged flightBut the limited map sizes and leg stats and lack of autism wouldn't let us to harvest the benefits of this
I'm having fun. I've found a lightweight flight based frame, and it's really great to get the drop on these stupid fucking robots running around.
>>23702060Current loadout.
>>23702062Nice gyaru Reimu
I feel like all of the back weapons apart from the sniper cannons could have their damage values doubled and it would improve the game. There are a lot of cool parts but most of them are statistically worse than just leaving the slot empty.
When i first played AC I thought bunny hopping was the gayest shit ever but now I miss itNothing makes me feel ELITE as it did
>>23702104The max upgraded GandVolc absolutely DELETES everything. Combine it with that bubble shield module to protect yourself during the initial wind up and it just feels unfair. In fact, i think that bubble shield is quite helpful with back weapons that have a windup. Try using that.I felt the same way until used that module and found the larger back weapons really can hurt once upgraded.It can still feel a bit awkward that you come to a complete standstill but once you keep mind its not so bad with the bubble shield.
>>23702327Bosses included too I must add.
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I beat the outpost, uh. What now? Do I go to another area? I felt like I would get something more.
>>23703070Each of the main areas gives you a key, and when you have all three keys you can use the elevator at the start of the central cavern to access a new area. At the bottom of that area you find another key that lets you bypass the red barriers you've seen throughout the game.
>Sabi gets a big damage modifier boost depending on Nymph speed that moment the blade connects>Make autism minmax dash speed build>Time dashes to unleash Sabi at moment of max acceleration>Oneshot kill pretty much most of everything in the gameThe spirit of Queen Nagara and her daughters lives on.
>>23703101Honoraburu disupuru. Why was she barely moving around though? Whenever I encountered those, they were usually zooming all over the place and generally being rather difficult to hit with melee.
I have no idea how I'm supposed to approach colony depot on hard. I can't run away from the boxes because there's nowhere to run to, I can't fight the boxes because they respawn faster than I can kill them, and I can't ignore the boxes because they kill me faster than I can kill the cores.
>>23703664What I did was use a lightweight (Faluracarn) melee build, constantly jumping throughout the entire arena in a counterclockwise pattern, occasionally jumping up to one of the cores and hitting them with charged melee attack (greatsword). Point is to be faster and constantly move/jump in the air barely touching the ground because the box enemies will easily overwhelm if you stop, so you make them chase you instead and focus on hitting the cores. I also used chaffs to dodge missiles they would occasionally shoot. It's a pretty tricky fight, one of the hardest on hard mode, took me numerous tries, energy managment is a bitch in this one so tune your EP if you can. Try getting Savcan stealth module, I didn't use it but I imagine it would be useful too.
>>23703101When we get pvp we need some sort of tranquil walk of peace debuff too.
>>23702327That thing makes you eat supply candy bars like mad.
>>23671758The spotlight drone would be good if it followed you like the interceptor drone, but it works like a turret so it only illuminates where you're already standing. The biggest complaint I have about thew game is that a lot of parts feel like they weren't fully tested.
Whats the best progression. I did the great forest, killed a helicopter on another. There's more area to go there but I want to check out the other area I didn't go to yet.
Does this game go on sale or is it one of those "never ever sale" games?
>>23705105It goes on sale every major steam sale. But in the first place, the game is already pretty cheap for the amount of content it offers. It's like 12 bucks. Dropping down to 10 bucks during sales. Surely you're not so much of a jew to pinch on 2 bucks.
>>23705014Just do what you want. Area progression order really only matters if you're autistically maximizing efficiency of completing NPC questlines on NG+ runs.Evidently, you're not at that stage yet so just have fun experiencing the game blind.
So what are the different legs good at? Like biped vs beast?
Are there red barriers in every area or.am.i juts? I swore I saw some in some elevator shaft in the Forest but cannot find them at all.
>>23706409If you played the earlier AC games, you should generally have an intuitive idea of what the leg types are strong at. Also handling stat = turning speedClassic Bipeds- All rounder reliable choice. No real strength or weakness. Thicker ones are quicker, and chonkier ones are sturdierReverse Joint Bipeds- One of the quicker legs, great handling and low jump cost (but also overall lower jump height) if your playstyle demands that you bnuyyhop around like a motherfucker. Tends to be one of the more fragile leg types too.Hot Wheels- Gotta go fast. Most reliable and consistent ground speed in the game without boost or sacrificing armor for mobility. Decently sturdy. Trickier handling and shit jump height.Rocket Legs- The generally slower and less sturdy cousins of classic bipeds. Big dick jump heights. Kind of a meme really, but their jump height is practically required to reach some optional areas or hidden itemsTanks- The classic AC tank. Big dick defense. Best carrying capacity. Worst handling and absolutely slow as hell. Surprisingly decent jump though.Spider Legs- The less mobility cucked alternative to Tanks. Actually best handling in the game. Second best carrying capacity. Good jump height too. Lorewise, the most complicated leg type to do maintenance on, and is reflected in gameplay by having noticeably more expensive repair costs.Flight legs- Best aerial performance. Ignores gravity and does perfect horizontal aerial movement as long as boost is active (literally all other legs do a downward angle movement affected by gravity while doing aerial boost). Allows shit like >>23700307. Respectable ground speed too. Generally fragile and low carrying capacity.That's the general principle for each type barring some experimental units that play a bit more with the expectations of their category.
>>23706473>does perfect horizontal aerial movement as long as boost is active (literally all other legs do a downward angle movement affected by gravity while doing aerial boost)Akschully, the anti-grav thrust is a hidden stat assigned to all legs, and on FLs it's not quite = grav pull, so they still sink -- just very slowly. Raise that stat enough and you can actually boost up like in AC. I already did that, it's on nexus.
>>23706482Huh. News to me. Neat. But boost in this game doesn't really last long enough for you to notice the downward pull for FLs anyway.
>>23706473Also,>Thicker ones are quicker, and chonkier ones are sturdierI meant thinner ones are quicker.
>>23706410There is one in the Forest in an elevator shaft, its the hardest to find. Every level has a red barrier that you cannot pass until you defeat the Unknown Unit and gain Nehmras eye.
>>23706499Yeah I got the eye not to long ago it's why I was looking just haven't played in a couple weeks and am having a brainfart, apparently there's another elevator shaft I haven't checked yet but I will later.
>can't progress on upturned forest because current frame can't jump high enoughwell that doesnt feel good
>>23707529I don't think there are any mandatory paths in the game that are jump height locked. Some optional/hidden areas yes, but none for main scenario progression. You sure you just aren't exploring properly?
>>23707529The progress in that area is down an elevator
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>>23707586If you go FAT enough you can absolutely make yourself too fat to jump over some gaps.
Increasing the size of your frontal and rear kinetic dampeners should slightly increase your weight stat.
I beat the big eyeball getting my last code fragment. Looks like there is still a place to go after. Should I bang out the water treatment plant? I'm totally not saying this because the depths scares me.
>>23709111Water treatment plant is shrine of amanaDepths is tomb of the giantsthe twist is that they're both super fun now because you can fly and throw light bulbs around
>>23709137Well boy howdy, that is good to hear. Guess I'll the water plant first. I'm still really trying to find a weapon I like. I don't care for most of the rifles but the game has grenade launchers. I like those a lot. Shame about always stuffing my dolls face with snacks because they are ammo hungry.
>>23709137You cant really progress too much on water treatment plant without the item from the depths.
