thread for one of the best /m/ franchise.hope we get some news about EZY that bucchi is supposed to direct.
>one of the best /m/ franchise.But that's wrong!
>>23647481Cry about it.
>>23647481shut up duel.
i like it but it's not my favoritecannot deny its absolute excellence though
Recently watched the OVA series + the first two movies. Is it just me who prefers the first movie? I see a lot of people praise Patlabor 2, and while it was a great experience I thought 1 was a bit more engaging, both with the plot and characters as well as the mecha action. That, and the forced romance bit at the end between Nagumo and the bad guy seemed out of character. Weirdly enough, it felt like it should've been a third movie, with a sequel to the first one in between?
>>23648514you are not alone in finding patlabor 2 a bit short on the /m/ factorpretty common sentiments expressed in your post
>>23648514Fear not, a fellow cool guy is here who ranks the movies 1 > 3 > 2
>>23648514Movie 2 is good but by that point Oshii started doing whatever the fuck he wanted, imo all of his entries somewhat miss what makes Patlabor great (even though they're still good)On TV and the manga are the peak of the franchise; embrace the joy and whimsy, it works much better than a flat out drama
>>23648605some of the best tv episodes are written by him.
>>23648617Oshii has great writing don't get me wrong. I just think his writing COMBINED with his directing leads to something different than what I really love the series for.For On TV he wasn't in control of everything so it had to be consistent with the rest of On TV to some degree (rather than having the tone in line with his other stuff like Jin Roh and GiTS).
>>23648514copy pasting a 2 year old /a/ post.It's a really good movie but what makes it so good is often lost in the way people recommend you watch the series.People say "oh, there are two timelines, the 'Movie Timeline' which goes OVA1-Movie1-Movie2, and if you like that then check out the 'TV Timeline' which goes TV-OVA2". The thing is, if you follow this watch order, Patlabor 2 comes out of nowhere and is complete tonal whiplash to what comes both before and after. That's not how it was meant to be watched. If you follow production order (always do this, fwiw), Patlabor 2 is the final piece of Patlabor (by the original team). It's meant to be a sharp tonal shift -- this series which has occasionally dabbled in political intrigue here and there is suddenly thrust DEEP into the machinations of a brewing civil war, much in the same way the characters who have been living in a time of peace and prosperity are caught off guard. The political undercurrents of the whole show suddenly take over everything, leaving the viewer in the same position as someone whose peaceful country has suddenly gone to war for reasons that only make sense upon reflection.It's a really good movie, and the fact that it doesn't wrap up SV2's character arcs from the show doesn't matter -- they were already wrapped up in the TV show and OVA. Watching it in the middle of the franchise is like watching Unforgiven after A Fistful of Dollars but before The Good the Bad and The Ugly; it leaves you with a totally skewed idea of what the movie is going for and will leave you very dissatisfied.
>>23647461So anyone scanned that Patlabor X Zoids crossover manga?
Is it acceptable to read the manga as my first foray into Patlabor?
>>23647481You don't even like mecha let alone japanese media drool
>>23648519>>23648521>>23648605For me it was still really enjoyable, but yeah it felt less like a mecha anime and more like political intrigue. I don't mind that, in fact I thought a lot of the concepts shown off were super sick, but it was jarring from right where 1 left off and the lack of mecha didn't help.>>23648638That makes a lot more sense, and I imagine it'd be a more satisfying watch after experiencing an entire show's worth of mecha and having a lot of buildup. Even so, I think it'd serve better as the end of a trilogy or if the series was integrated into the original timeline then: the idea of mecha being phased out and the world being darker is really interesting and adds a lot to the setting, but as it stands it is a total change from previous entries.That, and while I did enjoy the themes I found them to be a bit underdeveloped. The movie is pretty clearly an expansion on SV2's Longest Day, and if anything I wish an interim movie existed so that the themes of 2 could have been allowed to cook for longer and build up. Adding onto that is the weird Nagumo romance at the end: it's introduced halfway and frankly doesn't add much, and if anything it feels disrespectful to Nagumo's character (a caring but standoffish elite officer who is cold even to Goto) to randomly have a romance with the main bad guy. It's not even a bad concept but it's not done well IMO.For me, Patlabor 1 was more enjoyable not just because of the excellent mecha action, but also because the characters are developed a lot and we get a ton of great chemistry between the cast. Patlabor 2 only really focuses on Nagumo and Goto, and even then besides the philosophical discussions it falls a bit flat. I'd like to know what you anons thought of it, since I'm still going through the series and my preliminary opinions here could change once I'm fully done with Patlabor.
I found it all on my harddrive and some sick motherfucker took out all the openings and endings. Who the fuck does that?! Now I have to download it all again.I've been meaning to play the Sega Genesis fantranslation that came out recently too
>>23649548for a while it was common to have the OP/ED as separate files and the mkv would string them into the right spots
>>23649535>Nagumo romance at the end: it's introduced halfway and frankly doesn't add much, and if anything it feels disrespectful to Nagumo's character (a caring but standoffish elite officer who is cold even to Goto) to randomly have a romance with the main bad guy. It's not even a bad concept but it's not done well IMO.it's sort of like ghost of the past that has came back to haunt.Her affair was the backstory for her character, the reason why she is so strict and professional, the reason why she never acts upon the unspoken 'romantic tension' with Goto.It's not just her, nearly everybody in SV-2 has a past which has resulted in them being sent there. It's like a weird place where pariahs are sent as a way to demote them or take them off the playing board.Goto is too smart and has caused trouble for the Police brass, Asuma is the banished prince of Shinohara Industries, Kanuka is too difficult for NYPD, Ohta is hot headed gun fetishist who was transferred.SV-2 HQ itself being on an artificial land, that was previously used as a landfill, which is isolated from the city is a deliberate setting choice.I don't have the exact source for this at the moment, so approach with caution.>For me, Patlabor 1 was more enjoyable not just because of the excellent mecha action, but also because the characters are developed a lot and we get a ton of great chemistry between the cast. Patlabor 2 only really focuses on Nagumo and Goto, and even then besides the philosophical discussions it falls a bit flat.it's generally agreed upon that P2 is a better film and P1 is a better Patlabor film.
Wasn't it recently discussed here that Patlabor 2 was supposed to have at least a little more action and more involvement with the other characters, but it got cut for budget reasons?I mean half the fucking movie is characters standing around, in the dark, facing away from each other and talking. That's a classic budget saver.
>>23650286P2 had nearly twice the budget of P1.
>>23649535>>23650280forgot to mention, the affair plot point is also lifted from the new files ova which concludes the griffon storyline.
>>23650286>AAAAA NOOO WHERE ARE THE EXPLOSIONS IN MY FUCKING POLITICAL THRILLER? WHY IS OBARI NOT MAKING A 30 SECOND COMBINING SEQUENCE FUUUUUCKK PUT MORE IDOL DANCING SEQUENCES THIS SHIT IS SO BORING AND LOW BUDGET
>>23650334This but unironically
>>23650292>oshii-sensei! this budget is insane! we can animate on the ones! we can shade like don bluth! what should we draw? gaint robots? giant monsters? giant robots fighting giant monsters?"fisheye lenses of people yelling and military guys standing around. on the ones. "
>>23650280I suppose I see what you mean, it just seemed a little underdeveloped to me. Patlabor 2 is universally recognized as an excellent film so I'm not trying to say the movie sucks, but it felt a bit sparse of character development I guess.Nagumo and Goto do get some good moments though.I guess what I'm trying to say is that I wish the film had more buildup in previous entries, especially with regards to the other members of the cast?But like you said earlier I probably should have seen it after the TV series, I imagine it'd hit a lot harder that way and have more context.
>>23650286They shouldn't have skipped on the final elevator battle. Talk about a fucking cockblock.
I watched movie 3 and really enjoyed it. Maybe it's not really a patlabor movie but it's jaw droppingly beautiful visually and the plot is not too bad. They probably should have just called it WXIII and left it at that and maybe there were a few too many cameos of the og cast
>>23650464Or maybe you can stop being a bitch.
>>23650464It definitely improves tenfold when you treat is as Patlabor Gaiden
>>23648638I was reading this post, agreeing with every point, and then realized that it was because I was the anon who wrote that post on /a/ lmao.
>>23649578Did MKVs use to have more capabilities or something? Between subs, intros, and small extras none of them have autoplayed like that.Does it work on VLC, does it just not do anything because I use MPV?
>>23650334Well... Yeah?Have you not seen any Patlabor besides 2? 2 is an outlier from the rest of the series because it took an action comedy about a police crew and turned it into a political thriller that in no way fits the franchise.Good movie in its own right, but let's not act like it actually captures the essence of Patlabor; still better than WXIII I guess.
>>23653094It's just a follow up on SV-2's Longest Day in movie form. Noa and Asuma take a backseat there too and Goto, Nagumo, Matsui and Sakaki do the most work.
>>23653094>Have you not seen any Patlabor besides 2?Have you???
>>23653089iirc you need to have the seperate video file for the intro and the outro in the right spot with the right nameit was a big hassle to save like, an extra three gigs of data in a pile weighing in at 30g.I dunno what supports it or doesn't these days, I'm still using the old MPC-HCappropriately enough Palabor TV has ended up the sticky widget for me for redoing my Christmas encodes in HDI've got the one without intros/outros and I've got one without subs lol
>>23648519did we watch the same film? there's so much variety of /m/ stuff.wyvern, JSDF tanks, the choppers, opening scene, training, tunnel fight, blimp.
>>23654944yes these things are all present but they're hardly the focus nor are they presented (for the most part) as cool eyecandy or to show off their abilitiesas others have said, it's more of a political intrigue flick with some /m/ bits
I am just assmad they ruined my Genki girl
>>23655363It's set 3 years after the first film. She is around 25, it's time to grow up and leave Alphonse behind.
I love Kanuka!
Pat 2 would be more loved if it had Kanuka. She was too based for Oshii.
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With Zootopia 2 being huge right now, seems a good time to post this.
>>23661787that Robocop 2 parody is miles better than it has any right to be
>>23648514I liked the first movie as a patlabor movieI liked the second movie as a bit of blackpill movieI liked the third movie as a random ass detective movie
is the live action any good? I wanna watch it just for harada
>>23662297They are all patlabor movies.
>>23662633this, it's the strength of patlabor, it can be goofy as well as goofy without breaking a sweat.
>>23648719l've read it about 5 years ago in Italian, which was the only language with a full translation available at the time (one of the very few times being Italian has done something for me)l've actually enjoyed it very much at the time, perhaps even more than the animated version. Main difference is that Takeo is in the cast from the very beginning and Kanuka only appear much later iirc. Plus the whole Griffon plot had a different resolution.l should read it again, at the time l couldn't find anyone to discuss about it
I didn't like the OVA too much but the series is a good time so far. OVA has a problem with having tone shifts all the time especially if it's your "first entry". I get it but it's jarring seeing 4 goofy episodes at once and then the 5th episode is like super serious (sorta) and you're just like ??? the hell.
>>23663402>tone shiftsWhy are Americans so retarded? Children watch these shows and have no problems with them.
>>23663508He's not wrong, the OVA is all over the place, doesn't make it bad, but it's pretty noticeable
>>23664494It really isn't.
>>23664501Explain your reasoning
I like birds with big eyebrows.
>>23664513I don't think you understand what the Patlabor production team was like, what their interests were or what crowd they were aiming for. "Tone shift" isn't a real thing, watch more anime beyond what your tiktok algorithm recommends you.
>>23664523Then please do enlighten me on the subject instead of saying "You are wrong" or "You don't know better than I do"
>>23648638Where does PL3 fit into this?
>>23663380It's great, it feels like a coherent balance of the TV series and the intrigue of the 2nd movie (movie 3 was just an arc of the manga with the patlabor crew shoved out). I think Yuuki did rush the end a little, though he made the Asuma-Noa relationship pretty fun (open ending implying romance like the TV series, except he put Asuma in the dog house for a while). All in all an 8.5/10, you can find it on mangafire if nothing else works
>>23665201Never watched it, but I heard it's basically just an arc from Yuukis manga that took out the main cast for most of it. The actual arc in the manga is pretty nice)
>>23665694I downloaded it via the torrent on Nyaa a long time ago, I was asking out of curiosity because I generally prefer reading manga over watching anime when it's a viable option.
>>23665201It's a 2001 monster flick where SV-2 show up at the end.
>>23647461I like the REAL real life version better
>>23666023I love the truck slowly noping the fuck out of there at the start
>>23665694>you can find it on mangafireare all the chapters translated? wiki says 22 volumes but site shows upto 20.
EZY looks like a super fun budget PS4 game I'd love to play itWatching it as an anime though... I'm unsure...
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2025-12-13/patlabor-ezy-anime-to-be-8-parts-long/.232055New Patlabor anime with be 8 parts long. Finally some new info.
>>23667213It is fully translated, yeah. All 22 volumes worth.
>>23667365I'm not very excited for it unfortunately, the production values seem very mediocre. Expected for JC Staff. All I hope is that they confirm Noa and Asuma have a kid
>>23648742No u
>>23647481you're a faggot
>>23667627It's been in the making for years, don't worry you are not getting OPM S3.
>>23669685Not him but the trailers haven't exactly filled me with confidence that it's going to be high production value show. The CG mechs look fine, but the character animation is meh
>>23669836>high production value showYou people are so gay.
>>23669924"Stop complaining and consume the new thing"
patlabor tv got pretty cheap but they worked well with it
>>23670169Yeah but 80s shows are always just going to look better cause of the aesthetic
>>23670160"Complain more and don't watch anything, just read wikis and youtubers talking about 80s anime"
