It's December first, aka 12/1, also known as RX-121 Hazel day! Happy Hazel day!--useful links--https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entrieshttps://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html>scans of some of the earlier entrieshttps://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/>samples of the ongoing mangahttps://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html>another page with their stuffhttps://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first onehttps://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entriesLast thread>>23598539
Still the latest volume, Universal Conversion Development Machinehttps://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot82/Still a reminder the Gundam Inle manga hiatus might be ending12/1 - Hazel Day12/2 - Hazel Kelderek Day12/3 - Hazel Hrair Day12/4 - Woundwort Day
Put the rabbit in the bag
>>23644608It never occurred to me that the thigh armor could be front skirt armor with normal woundwort thighs underneath
>>23649318it does seem like the implication is that Hazel Hrair and Woundwort share quite a lot of parts. Naturally Woundwort is compatible with TR-S by design since it's compatible with bloody everything but it's more than that. In this drawing >>23648694 it seems to have the same armor shape on the inner side of the thighs, just covered up by skirt armor/subarms. Shitty drawing by yours truly.We can also see the forearm is just straight up the exact same as Woundwort's but Hrair gets larger upper arms not unlike Haze'n-thley II.My guess is TR-S and TR-6 share a lot of the inner frame, or rather TR-6 reuses the design of TR-S's with modifications for its wider operation capabilities.
>>23649318in addition to everything the other anon just said, the skirt armour is supposed to unfold into subarms as well but we haven't gotten a look at that yet. if you look at the old lineart you can also clearly see the woundwort thighs are taken straight from the drawings he's released, but from the back view they appear to not have the unfolding lower leg and foot elements.
>>23649448do you have the backshot handy? That could probably give us a better picture of what the thighs look like >thighs and backshotsheh>>23649459I wonder if the design is still this or if it's been changed
>>23649476He drew pretty intricate details on the earlier volumes and overall most of the details haven't seemed to change. It uses production Owsla/Barzam II shoulders by the way, with the extra bit of shielding attached.
>>23649476And here's the backshot. The thighs are drawn very weirdly, like they're incomplete, here. It's always bugged me.
>>23649476I always have the picture of Hrair's ass safe in my walletThat said the angle is just exactly right for us to not see anything about the thigh structure.
And the slightly sharper original one
>>23649486>>23649487you're right, the thighs are weirdly obfuscated. Wonder if it's intentional? I imagine since this came out around the time the AoZ gunpla started gaining traction, maybe he's redesigning the thing to make it easier to gunpla-ify
>>23649493The Woundwort thighs were built to do exactly what this thing does, so the models don't really need to change at all. The front part of the Woundwort's thighs probably needs a new cover to fit nicely under all that bulk though. Ultimately the Barzam II kit is actually extremely close to the TR-S (and intentionally so).
>>23649497even with all the proportions fuckery? Given the "new" size of the wundy kits, a HG TR-S using those proportions would be PG-sized
>>23649493Fujioka typically designs mecha with models in mind, at least to some degree. Exact proportions between drawings can be inconsistent for the sake of aesthetics but especially in Flag of Titans the sketches sometimes had little notes about how this or that could be engineered on a kit or if it's a variant then it'd be nice to keep parts of the original etc.
>>23649498The TR-S's body structure is, again, extremely similar to the Barzam II. It probably has slightly longer lower legs with the redesign, but you can go put Hazel legs on a Barzam II kit and you effectively have a discount Hazel Hrair. If you put those legs on the Hyzenthlay II you might arguably be closer.
>>23649503I wonder if kitbash anon has tried it
>>23649507You're probably referring to the other anon who posts more often but I have posted a rudimentary assembly of what I'm talking about before.
>>23649513>you vs the girl your pilot tells you not to worry about
>>23649507I'm the other kitbash anon, I would like to try that. If I had a Haze'n-thley II, that is. Though look at Barzam II's kit I don't think it's gonna be all that close proportionally to Hrair. Leg area is pretty on point but the torso especially would be way off>>23649513This feels closer to me but one damn strange thing is that we can't really tell how the waist/torso part works, especially regarding drum frame(s). It seems to me like there's one in the waist area and a second in the back, so it might end up pretty different from Haze'n-thley II where they're stacked on top of each other.
>>23649513That's Psyco Gundam size, isn't it?. Those big gaps under the arm seem perfect for underslung guns though. Also, are those F90 mission packs in the back? What are you cooking?
>>23649564Psycho is still a different kind of beast
>>23649564>Psyco SizeIt's very, very close in size to Odysseus, still a ways from Psyco. Mine are nestled in a display and I don't want to pull them out for a picture though.>>23649558It's tough to say but we know it's still using the primrose II and, honestly, it appears to just plug down into a backwards Barzam II with the dong now being a dickbutt. Were it using the Hyzenthlay double vertical drumstack we'd probably see it.
>>23649569>backwards Barzam II with the dong now being a dickbuttit's called tucking
>>23649564>Also, are those F90 mission packs in the back? What are you cooking?oh whoops. Those are the back cannon F91 parts, some G-Cannon parts and some other stuff from related things. I'm working on two MG F91s and have some other spare parts out to just compare stuff.
I forgot we have its bust too, probably hasn't been massively overhauled or anything like that.Looking at it here I am guessing this drum frame is the one we see in the back here >>23649486 while the one peeking out at the top here >>23648694 would be situated below.
And we've also had Barzam, Haze'n-thley II and Hrair lined up in the Hrududu II compatibility graph. Here there's the "vertical" kind of drum frame mounted on the back, but I believe it is attached to the drum frame in the back rather than the waist one. Unless I'm misreading this completely, which is very possible.
>>23649579I guess this means no waist pivot
>>23649577It certainly seems like the >>23648694 picture here is showing two, with an extra mounted in a diagonal to the other. But where that mounts appears to instead be a bellows frame in this >>23649486 one to me, and like you noted a dual drum of the other variety in that art there.It seems to me the entire body of the TR-S is actually just the Woundwort but without the foldout legs from this image. It's worth noting that bust is specifically El-Ahrairah's in the higher detail art, and like the little notes beneath show the basic TR-S doesn't have the folded up arms or the fancy chest covering but instead a boxier, basic chest and Production Barzam II/Owsla shoulders.
Happy Kelderek day!!!
Why do the kits have to be so rare and expensive, I don't want to spend 60-80 bucks on a fucking HG TR-1 Hazel
>>23650146Barzam Juggler>>23650177price to pay to make the millions of Unicorn and Strike Freedom recolors widely available
Do you think The O's design ethos could be applied to TR plan configurations? Being Scirocco's MS it was too expensive for mass production, but the TR plan is all about finding ways to mass produce shit anyways
>>23650441The O's problem isn't even so much about cost (even if that's also a problem) but rather that Scirocco was just fundamentally completely disinterested in giving the suit any potential usage beyond his personal pimpmobile. If you wanted to turn it into a mass production model you'd be better off starting from zero with the aim of achieving similar functionality which would end up as... a pretty regular GM-type MS or something of the sort.At its core The O isn't about any unique feature like psycommu or transformation functions, it's about mobility and front line combat just like the Gundam. And when you tweak that doctrine for mass production the end result is just GM.
>>23650488Wasn't it designed for>Extreme durability>High Thrust>Close CombatI don't think most "gundam-type" MS fit into that role, most are all roundars, usually with an emphasis on long range (well, beam rifle range) and having a single saber as a backup weapon. The O has four swords and they are its primary armaments. WEll, it does also have a fuckoff huge beam rifle but that's hardly unique
>>23650531All this does describe the RX-78-2 when it was made. Most durable and agile mobile suit to date, equipped with beam weapons and designed to fight in close combat as part of the Operation V team with Guncannon and Guntank providing medium- and long-range support.The O is the same thing for the modern era and technology. Gimmicks like the subarms and Biosensor are there to enhance these basic functions. Instead of a shield it's heavily armored but the armor houses fuel and thrusters to give it tremendous mobility. It emulates Gundam's functions but in pursuit of that it turns into a big ol' gross yellow banana and forgets Gundam's role above all else was as a prototype for the mass production models. The O has no legacy.Palace Athene and Bolinoak Samahn are also modern takes on the Operation V trifecta. Palace Athene's parallel to Guncannon is self-explanatory but in the realities of Gryps War's high mobility combat a dedicated artillery unit akin to Guntank wouldn't work so the long-range support role was replaced with EWAC and information warfare.
Fat Karl is pretty much MP The O.
>>23650798Gustav Karl is just a modern GM-type platform really
>>23650802Fat Karl specifically follows "big bulk, big thrust" rules to maintain the same mobility as its gym-skipping jim brethren
>>23650804true that, fair point
>>23650146I'm eternally grateful to the Asshimar Rah II for letting us know we can stick Inle's income on random shit.
>>23650798I think that MP The O would remove quite a bit of its armor, like Flat Karl.But as a true /fa/shion queen she would also wear it as a dress on an occasion, like Over.on.
Happy Hrair day!
>>23650441>Do you think The O's design ethos could be applied to TR plan configurationsSure. Just take a Hazel and cover it from head to toe in shield boosters, apply subarm unit and give it a Barzam head to complete the silhouette.
>>23651473did you draw this?
>>23651896Instructions unclear, is this what you meant?Thinking about it, is the Kondo/Kobayashi style the antithesis of Fujioka design? Fujioka uses Modular, clearly distinct elements to build a greater whole, and his MS have flat panels and sleek femboy proportions. Meanwhile the Zimmerit bros make rounded textured masses with fat bastard proportions, hard to tell where parts start and end and thye give the feeling of being some sort of cancerous mass that grew out of control, like no two MS are the same despite being the same model. I love both styles.
>>23651918no
To think it all started with a single XFS Hazel II bootleg almost a year ago.
>>23651980damn she's sexy
>>23649491>>23649579The longer I look at this, the more it seems the Hrair is just a reconfigured Woundwort in a similar vein to the Haze'n-thley II
>>23652131because it pretty much is
>>23651980
>>23652131Woundwort is redesigned Hrair, pretty much.
Dusting my models after getting some more shelf space.I now get why Fujioka likes this isometric angle so much. It really makes all the extra crap you add to base design really pop.
>>23652219What's that on the bottom left? Another Hrududu pod? Where's the one on the right?
>>23652221looks like the kehaar rifle
>>23652221That's the Kehaar II beam cannon, folded up. Made by Effect Wings.Changed some stuff around for my Gigantic Arms Owsla.I used to be pretty anal about displaying my models as accurate to lineart as possible, any deviation from it simply wasn't canon in my mind. But the 100th volume about the various Kelderek loadouts really changed my mind. There is no limit and there is no canon. Just do whatever you want.So fuck it, give the Owsla the Mk-V beam rifle. It's as real as anything else.I've been trying to think of ways to swap the winch cannons for something else, but nothing else comes up on my mind. Ideas welcome.
Also, Woundwort Rah Cannon Type.This is a fiddly one, but looks very nice.I have so many Woundworts lying around that I'm not sure if I grabbed the Bandai original or one of my bootlegs for it. Oh well.Can't quite nail the pose from the illustration because the Hrududu II attachments on the shoulders negate most of the articulation on the arms. And the TR-6 has such tiny arms that it doesn't really have much room for movement on the elbows.
Might as well share a pic from a while back I never got around to sharing.>>23652219damn that's looking sexy, wish my work station didn't look like shit so I could take bigger pics like that instead of low quality lightbox. And paint. Next year, with any luck.>>23652226That's the right attitude, Fujioka always encourages putting random shit together, nevermind how many times the blurbs list optional equipment "and others" so people can make up their own shit. AoZ traces its roots to when he played a Sentinel RPG in school and made an OC Barzam and stuff.For other sub arm options, Woundy's CBSs have two 3mm holes in them so it's easy to plug them there, but they're pretty heavy so it's a pain in the butt. If you have a Gaplant lying around the 4mm polycaps can be switched out for 3mm ones with no modification too.>>23652238Damn, I'm surprised how well this works in kit form. Even if it's fiddly, that's pretty much unavoidable for Woundy.
waow...
>>23652254awesome pose, very angelic. Biblically accurate Woundwort?>>23652360Pool Party Wundy? Are those two more wundys folded up on her shoulders? Triplets?
>>23652378It's like an aquatic Queenly config. Beach Queen, if you will.
Happy Woundwort day!!!
>>23653264What makes it Woundwort day?
>>23653487December 4th -> 12/4 -> 124 -> RX-124 Gundam TR-6 [Woundwort]!
>>23653495then happy Wundy day
Happy Woundday.>>23652378We can go further, the shitty lightning is almost a positive here.>>23652226Got pics of CSBs and Gaplant binders on subarms if you wanna see them
And a much more down to earth Woundy to even it out
Actually gonna post the CSB type regardless because I think it turned out fucking sick, even if it's basically a great value Kehaar II. Pic doesn't do it justice but I can't take any more right now.
Re-Haze day?
>>23654967PRoblem is, there's not nearly enough decent Rehaize art
Problem is THERE'S NOT A MODELREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I think about this chart a lot and wonder what other stuff could be suspended on a simple drum frame like that. It's mostly relatively small stuff, at most regular backpack mounted weapons but I wonder if it can be pushed further. Gaplant binders maybe? Winch cannon is most often seen on Hrududu II's subarms but it can be attached onto Owsla's chest binders too so maybe it's not that hefty...
>>23655261Did we ever find out what the thingies on the top left are? Anyways, I think you could probably stick Palace Athene's anti ship missiles there, maybe with a little holding clip.
>>23655368>Red shoulderNever fails>HeelsThey done yassified my Keldereks. Which backpacks are they using?
>>23655344>Did we ever find out what the thingies on the top left are?They're still mysterious motherfuckers I'm afraid.
Chink company doing knockoff AoZ. As usual, it looks like shit.But their heart is in the right place.
>>23655460I can appreciate the attempt, at least.
>>23655460IS that the head from the CGI netflix Gundam?
>>23655541this one is nowhere near as ugly
>>23655261I suppose they’re heavy launchers of sorts
>>23655587we know what they are, they're labeled as missile launchers. The question is where the fuck did they come from because every other piece of equipment here originates from elsewhere.
>>23655376looks to be a custom backpack design
>>23655605I feel like I've seen it before but can't remember where exactly
Here's a brain teaser for ya, /aoz/: how would Baund Doc equip the Hrududu II?Hard mode: don't interfere with the transformation. Get creative, the world's your oyster.
>>23655261>>23655589They bear some resemblance to the Zaku Cannon's rocket launchers. They're like a mix of them and the Ground Gundam's missile launcher.
>>23655961I mean, realistically it doesn't need it, but if it HAD to have one, either stick it on the butt flap, or on the shield arm and use it as a sort of handheld booster
>>23656074I could see it on the arm, maybe replacing the shield like Advanced Binder Unit on Advanced Gaplant.
>>23655961I put two Kehaar IIs on each side of it
fellas, fujioka wouldn't let us have an AoZless Christmas, would he?
>>23655078Re-haze is my "I love AoZ" moment. Haze'nthley II Rah, Vervain II Rah, and Re-Haze completely changed me forever. They're so fucking cool
>>23656409at least her sister from another universe got animated
>>23656063there's a passing similarity due to the details on the sides but there's no grips or magazines so I reckon that ain't it, all the other gera here is rather faithful to original depictions.
