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does anyone have the gavv movie with subs? please?
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>>23657910
Don't post here again until you've lurked this site for at least 3 years.
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>>23657910
why not get pics without subs in another thread?
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Sad Baku
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>>23657915
I do lurk I’m just lazy.
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Zero absolutely not 100% on the up and up.

Baku making an actual black hole and getting sucked in and now unable to wake up is wild
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Looks like Shout started including the full preview instead of cutting it halfway
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What are your compliments and complaints to Zeztz's 13th episode?
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>>23657956
I actually liked everything that happened this time. Conflict with the detective, but they have a clue for Nox, Nox and Zero actually intereacting. More building up on how the Capsems are dangerous.
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>>23657956
I don't even have anything to complain about. Manly drama, decent fight, mysteries starting to develop.

Only thing I'm wondering is why didn't Baku immediately ask "Hey Zero, why are these Capsems Nightmares" but I imagine they'll get to it
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>>23657956
Pretty good episode, better than usual. There were some high stakes and some nice drama involving the PSB, Baku and Zero. Nasuka is finally being a tardwrangler for Fujimi in a way that doesn't feel annoying or useless. They made it pretty clear that Zero and CODE are at the very least extremely morally gray, and it is possible they could've been grooming Baku to be an Agent since childhood. The fact that we weren't shown the aftermath of Minami and Zero's meeting last week outside of a very short flashback is pretty suspicious, I really hope Minami doesn't turn out to be just a normal person after all this teasing. After hearing that the second meteor strike had no casualties, I'm still debating on how bad Nox actually is and whether or not he's been making sure nobody gets seriously hurt by the Nightmares he helps out, though he did seem disappointed that Baku stopped the final meteor strike. The weekly case also felt like it had a satisfying conclusion this time around, since the characters were pretty involved with the kid both in the dream and real worlds, and it ended with the kid having a proper resolution for his problem instead of just him having a good dream after getting harassed by the Nightmare. And just like I expected, the meteor was the Nightmare itself.

The cliffhanger was exciting and it looks like they're going to wake Kensei up pretty soon. The wire action for Gravity this week was nice too.

My only complaints are that I feel like Baku got out of his funk a bit too early into the episode, and Nem... Nem is just there despite how important her character is supposed to be. Also Baku still hasn't brought up the fact that Nox called himself an Agent in front of him, at this point I feel like he'll only look back on that after Nox infodumps him with the entire truth himself. I also don't like the fact that Nox Knight is losing already, it really should've debuted earlier.
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>>23657975
>Baku immediately ask "Hey Zero, why are these Capsems Nightmares"
Baku's lack of questions after important reveals really bothers me.
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I assume that the thing Nox was warning Baku about is that he would be eventually be pulled into a neverending nightmare if he kept using the Capsems' power, just like he was.
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>>23658000
>The eventual evil Rider (if any at all) is an insomniac who warps reality with daydreams
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>>23658025
>>The eventual evil Rider (if any at all)
Reliable leakers confirmed there was a Dark Zeztz a while ago, there's also 3 new Rivals coming but it's unclear whether they're Riders and whether Dark Zeztz is one of them or not.
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>>23658044
>CODE is weirded out by the new guy
>Why? He never sleeps
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>>23657956
One of the better episodes of the show, I like the heated drama that's starting, but there's parts that bother me.
I never saw Baku as believing himself to be invincible. He almost failed his first case and let the detective be possessed by the Nightmare, and he has taken the cases seriously ever since. He's always been aware of his flaws and cares more about the dreamers he saves than being an "invincible agent". So this two-part arc pretending like he's just having a power fantasy is not accurate to how he's been.
Nox calling out Zero for sacrificing his agents is weird when he was willing to let humanity be exterminated with his bullshit nightmare. He is considerably worse than Zero, despite the story painting it so that he's more layered than we think, and Zero is more evil than we imagined. Unless the twist is that the world they live in is a dream prison, and planetary genocide is the only way to wake up humanity from this trap, this just paints Nox as unredeemably vile. I assume it will be another classic case of Takahashi brushing off a villain's crimes by the time he starts to redeem him.
Baku's sister just being okay with the weird shenanigans going on in his closet is also very strange; she just instantly accepts it and doesn't tell Baku about it. Maybe she discovered the dream world in that miniseries about her, but from what I checked out, it seemed more like a comedic nothingburger than a plot essential story.
Other than that, it was way better than the latest episodes. I hope whatever they reveal about CODE is less stupid than the DGP and Hiden Intelligence's nonsense.
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>>23658000
>implying reality was not already a neverending nightmare
Jokes aside, they could have gone for the big twist that what we considered reality in the show was actually the dream part all along, and reality was stranger than that, with the monsters and riders having strange abilities affecting reality. Baku could have been just an agent 007's made up personality for some experiments, trying to become real by bonding with real people. But I guess they would go for something way safer
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>>23658050
>He almost failed his first case and let the detective be possessed by the Nightmare
He also failed to accomplish the main objective of the previous arc's case and didn't seem too bothered about it.
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>>23658050
>Baku's sister just being okay with the weird shenanigans going on in his closet is also very strange; she just instantly accepts it and doesn't tell Baku about it.
I'm banking on her having some prior ties to CODE even if she hasn't necessarily worked for them before, maybe her and Baku's parents were Agents and died in a mission and that's why she has this weird insistence on having Baku drop his secret agent delusions even though she's otherwise fine with him being a NEET for his own safety. Otherwise, if she turns out to just be a normal person, all this teasing with the constant ambiguity of how much she really knows will feel really pointless.
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>>23658085
>she has this weird insistence on having Baku drop his secret agent delusions
She does not, the part she is against about is him helping people, because weird karma shit everytime he did
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-6LazqxD7E
Case 14 preview.
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>>23658050
>I never saw Baku as believing himself to be invincible. He almost failed his first case and let the detective be possessed by the Nightmare, and he has taken the cases seriously ever since. He's always been aware of his flaws and cares more about the dreamers he saves than being an "invincible agent". So this two-part arc pretending like he's just having a power fantasy is not accurate to how he's been.

It doesn't exactly contradict his prior behavior too. It would explain why he didn't ask about Nox being a former agent. Maybe not so much "invincible" so much as expecting things to go a certain way without serious hampering his ability to act as an agent.

As an aside, it's a little strange we didn't get a scene of Baku checking his Capsem collection in the real world, as his Impact Capsem is still noticeably red when he awakens after getting BTFO. Might just be an error, but it caught my eye.
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>>23658177
>It doesn't exactly contradict his prior behavior too. It would explain why he didn't ask about Nox being a former agent.
Nah, you're really reaching there.
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Now I'm convinced the C.O.D.E leader is the big bad and will be Takahashi's take on Kamen Rider Solomon
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>Can't have Nox Knight and Zero fight because they have the same suit actor
That's lame, can't they simply have Zero be played another suit actor temporarily?
Regardless fantastic episode imo
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I honestly have no clue what is happening in setting I like it but the dream storyline is to confusing.
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>Kami next episode
Hell yeah

>>23658299
You're on the right track, we're seeing everything through Baku's POV who basically has nao context to anything, I just hope they give a believable explanation as to why Nox was so willing to let humanity go extinct because that part of his plan feels retarded
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>the Zero that met Nox at the end of the episode spoke in Japanese instead of English like he normally does in dreams
So there's definitely two different Zeros, right?
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>>23658299
I think the dream storyline is less confusing as it is largely unexplained. Nox used to be an agent before getting burned, going rogue and scheming to get his powers back is pretty simple, but that's like the only thing that's been explained to us

>>23658329
Did you stop watching after episode 2, Zero speaks in Japanese most of the time.
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>>23658329
He literally said "Mission Complete" in English in that same scene, and has spoken Japanese most of the show
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>>23658185
It's better than whining when the show doesn't match the way you think it should go.
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>>23658359
Oh look, it's the retard who can't defend the show with any actual arguments.
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>>23658069
The pants ruin it
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>>23657956
The best is that it ended in a great cliffhanger and I'm hyped for next week.
The bad is that the plot would need Build's level of insanity and ambition to actually deliver and not make Nox a complete retard. I don't think it will be the case.
The detective getting uppity when Baku saved him before is pretty infuriating. At least he makes detective chick look good in comparison. I hope he gets to be a rider, because I don't like him asa support character.
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>>23658050
>Unless the twist is that the world they live in is a dream prison, and planetary genocide is the only way to wake up humanity from this trap

I mean is this really that out-there when Takahashi said the premise that he wrote that became Zeztz was:
>While developing a story with a unique worldview, I suddenly had the thought, "What if the everyday world we thought was ordinary is actually a dream?"
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>>23658266
Or maybe there's more to the dream world than meets the eye? Nightmares happen for a reason, and what that reason is might be revealed later. Of course, I'm just hoping for a deeper plotline other than "bad guy wants to use dream world for his own goals".
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>>23658975
Like, what if there's some eldritch entity that's causing dreams to become real?
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>>23658780
detective getting uppity because he thinks his dead/missing friend/co worker was a good guy and shouldn't be talked bad about, its irrational but thats kind of the point he cant conceive of a world where hes evil and helping the nightmares, hes probably right and Nox is just playing the badguy for the greater good or whatever like CODE seems shady as fuck and must have fucked him over
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>>23658985
I think what happened to Odaka made him believe CODE fucked him over, so he's out for revenge and fucking with their new rising agent boy. Still no reason why he should let the Nightmares win. What if he experienced what Espada went through?
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>>23658304
>Kami next episode
What?
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>>23658992
It seems like he needs/needed Baku to get enough capsems for something, so hes only working with nightmares to push Baku to get stronger or some shit. Like with the book he was reading where he was reading out the capsem types. It makes more sense if all the nightmares he did were lower level shit and not the most recent one of fucking planetary extinction though.
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>>23658995
The chief director of the show is directing the next two episodes, he's the best director of the show, and the second best in the whole franchise
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>>23659015
Oh? That's cool.
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>>23659015
>and the second best in the whole franchise
Who's no. 1 and what has he done? Don't you dare say Anno.
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>>23659021
Kami's mentor Hidenori Ishida who's the chief director of Kuuga and Kabuto, specifically Kuuga's final battle
Then the third best director would be Koichi Sakamoto who's the chief director of Fourze and Kyoryuger who makes characters fight out of suit whenever he's an episode director usually using a bunch of practical effects
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>>23658960
I find it so weird that he's jobbing before the Shadow Nightmare, why make a suit so fucking detailed if they're going to have him job almost immediately and give him an upgrade that uses an entirely different undersuit?
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>>23659002
He wants to "break apart this warped world," "reality is a dream we need to wake up from" might genuinely be his goal
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>>23659002
yeah. thats the main problem here with NOX!

its more than likely (even, its probably true) that he is gonna claim he is doing this for the greater good. and people are just gonna forgive him. but so far, we are in Ep. 13, and thru his plan, he has already killed hundreds of people in the name of his mission. thats even worse than the shit Azuma pulled off in Geats, and he murdered half a city for his wish.

not to mention, had Baku failed to kill the meteor nightmare, how the fuck was he supposed to stop it himself? no matter how you slice it, theres no way his capsem could do the job without it sounding retarded. he was ready to GENOCIDE THE ENTIRE PLANET for his vengeance.

>>23658070
not really... the objective was 'to protect the national secret' and whatever that was, was still there. and ZERO recognized it. while its obvious the KnightInvoker and the erase capsem were also part of the national secret, they werent the whole thing. hopefully, the other part of the national secret (as in the docs) will also play a part later.

>>23659171
considering the existence of the black cases (phenomena from the dream world that actually happen in the waking world), theres indeed the possibility that there might be a third realm beyond those. where theres no such thing.

>>23658085
theres the whole 'ZERO plans to kill Minami if she reveals the info he was gonna give her'. so maybe, MAYBE minami is indeed a civilian. it is bad enough that Baku's curse was clearly caused by CODE as the next week preview implies, but making minami an agent in charge of gasligthing Baku because of 'the greater good' would be too ridiculous and depressing.
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>>23659183
I wonder if Bakus curse is nightmare related. Like he has a nightmare about getting struck by lightning that doesn't get dealt with (maybe intentionally by CODE) and then he just gets put in a coma. Those nightmares maybe end up in the capsems somehow and now are being used to power the rider.
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Zeztz is my first Kamen Rider. I'm having fun with it so far
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>>23659201
So do you just wait around for the next episode instead of watching the better previous shows?
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>>23659202
nta but is that really a bad thing? People don't only watch toku
Although I remember back when I watched my first Rider show live Wizard I marathoned almost every Heisei season back then
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>>23659207
Yes. Because by that logic, you can't watch anything unless it's currently airing.
>aww this anime already aired all the episodes? I can't watch it then.
There's plenty of better Rider out there. A real eyeopener when you actually do watch something that's better than the new, very common with rider shows.
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>>23659218
But what if the anon was already binge watching a long show before starting to catch up with Zeztz? When one is young there's so much kino stuff to watch that it's almost impossible to run out of content to be entertained with
Regardless that anon should watch Kuuga or OOO once he has free time
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>>23659183
>but making minami an agent in charge of gasligthing Baku because of 'the greater good' would be too ridiculous and depressing
I'm not saying she's gaslighting him into becoming an Agent, I'm saying she's trying to discourage him from going down that path because she might know it's dangerous. She clearly cares about him.
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>>23659226
>When one is young there's so much kino stuff to watch
That's what I've been trying to say. He has time to watch Zeztz which isn't even done yet, but not Heisei?
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>>23659015
>>23659027
Saber and Revice are the only shows that have had episodes by all three of these directors.
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>>23659239
I caught up with Zeztz over the past few days, and was planning on watching something else in between episodes, in fairness. Maybe the original or Kuuga as that other Anon suggested
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx-_IdkLq3w
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>>23658295
>can't they simply have Zero be played another suit actor temporarily?
Yes
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>>23659239
It's much easier to tackle a single episode once a week than it is to tackle 50 episodes. It took me around a decade to watch all of Heisei because I hate binging things and Rider wasn't my only hobby.
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>>23657951
Episode updated.
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>>23657881
Would Odaka become new Kusaka as he is not so good 2nd rider, and uses gunblade? Hanto was new Daddyana, for being frail human and using gun as rider arm.
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>>23659868
its obvious everyone is gonna forgive NOX! after the next ep. and once he gets his actual Rider gear.

i dont think this serie has the balls to make someone like Kusaka again.
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>>23659943
Would he be closer to Akiyama Ren then?
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>>23660004
Now we need Kensei grabbing Fujimi.
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>>23660016
>Now we need Kensei kissing Fujimi
Ftfy
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Sex with Okada Kensei.
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>>23660016
I can already see him not being able to tolerate Nox in Q2, it's definitely going to happen
Does someone still have the collargrab collage from Ex-Aid?
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>>23660071
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>>23658067
That's just matrix, why would you do that?
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>>23660083
God Ex-aid is peak, idc what anyone says
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>>23660098
Feel the same way, my only problem withtthe show is the Hiiro cuck arc, otherwise it's a pretty consistent banger of a show
I hope Kami and Takahashi are able to tap into some of its greatness for future Zeztz episodes since they're the combo that gave us the Parad beatdown
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>>23659943
>>23659956
I don't know how to break this to you, but not every character can, or should, fit into the archetype of a previous character. Sorry guys.
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>>23658388
You got an explanation, you just tend to turn your brain off when it doesn't fit your narrative.
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>>23660453
>You got an explanation
No, I got a cope from a random anon trying to rationalize a dumb part of the story in an unconvincing way. It's not like Baku has never asked questions before.
>you just tend to turn your brain off when it doesn't fit your narrative
Nice non-argument, retard.
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>>23659689
Sounds like you are just bad at time management
I have multiple hobbies too, work a shitty 9 to 5 and still have time to keep up with the games I like, the anime I like, movies I want to see and toku I like
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>>23661460
Toei's going to get sued for cutting the Plasma scenes out of episode 14 in favor of more Noxwank, aren't they
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>>23661582
What are you talking about?
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>>23660098
Ex-Aid is in my top 10
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>>23660618
How is it cope? Baku's demonstrated naivete and a willingness to go along with events without questioning before. Look at how long it took him to try to play with the Capsem Dropper, or how he didn't question Nem's appearances until the big reveal. He may be self aware at times, but it's clearly only to a fault. It's an informed flaw as much as it may be convenient writing, and it's not very fair to write it off as the latter simply because you're too impatient to see what direction the show takes it in.
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https://youtu.be/EOMAspyt_RQ?feature=shared

Is there a more ruthless Rider protag?

I havent watched when it aired, but how did krg react when Emu murdered Parad?
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>>23662667
>He may be self aware at times, but it's clearly only to a fault. It's an informed flaw as much as it may be convenient writing, and it's not very fair to write it off as the latter simply because you're too impatient to see what direction the show takes it in
Being selectively retarded for the sake of the plot really is convenient writing. Come on, this guy had the gall to ask Zero to tell him a national secret. I get the naivety of not questioning the nature of his job at first, but getting a bunch of critical plot reveals directly told to his face and then acting like that never happened for several episodes and counting is something else.
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>>23657996
sex



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