New ragebait just dropped https://youtu.be/X-AsdGwnhaU?si=U7cmO2y2pza9SyRRDo people really still think Kira got nuked or some dumb shit in 2025?
>>23666533Kira should have died in seed episode 30And no amount of astray trying to patchwork that change it. But again, seed is a 20 fucking yo old show.
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>>23666558Why should it have even killed him? Strike still had full Phase Shit.
>>23666533This just showed me I was genuinely mistaken about something in this fight and that really pisses me off
>>23666571The cockpit hatch was cut open and Athrun latched Aegis right over the hole, phase shift or no, that's still a massive breach to Kira's safety.
>>23666580>paint on the Aile aint even damaged Pft
>>23666580Nta but why is all the worse damage of the seat behind where Kira’s body woudve been? I never understood that
>>23666587Why the fuck is only the seat and seatbelts mostly melted and nothing else is touched? Why didn’t they question where the body was???
>>23666587>>23666589Because Fukada was going pretty hard with the brutality of war with early SEED. The fact that Kira as the main Character was THAT Close to actually dying, was surprising as it was at the time. Then they told him walk it back, and calm down these deaths were getting to be to much, hell it was surprising they still let him get away with Cyclops system
>>23666570>Pleb filtered by Based Loran, who overwhelmed a dude twice his size in a sword fight, like straight up through pure chad/twink strength
>>23666533He doesn’t get nuked but a blast powerful enough to fuck up the impulse hits right where they are and all that is left of the freedom is scrap, even if it wasn’t the reactor going critical it is still absurd he survived
>>23666533Racus sama!
>>23666533I mean if you're tampering with the genes anyway, it only makes sense for the "Ultimate Coordinator" to have DNA of octopi and cockroaches built in to squeeze though 1mm cracks in the cockpit and survive nuclear radiation. Hell. he's probably got some of that space whale in him and who knows what that thing can do
>>23666735What radiation?
>>23666580The Aegis was a battery-powered mobile suit with barely any battery power left when it self destructed. The cockpit was protected by a safety shutter and most of its internal damage was from an explosion after the fact. Kira was immediately extracted and taken to get medical attention.There is genuinely no way he should have died there.>>23666596Kira was intended to die to stop Genesis in the end, and the OST even has a track titled Freedom Suicide that was for it, but executives shot it down.
>>23666533>>23666558I find it bizarre that these opinions are common with western fans but very rare among the Asian fanbase. I wonder why?
>>23666533Not watching your shitty video. Buy an ad.
>>23666779I find it bizarre they’re still around after decades
>>23666779>rare among the Asian fanbaseIt's not. It's just that Asians voice their displeasure by drawing the SEED girls being raped by niggers or dying in flames. For decades now, even.
>>23666853I mean SEED antis exist, but these arguments usually get shut down instantly. Why do western fans need a youtube video 20 years later to understand the same scene?
>>23666863I searched up some of those comments shown off in the video and they’re from current year. That’s grim.
>>23666570>Someone other than me acknowledges Loran was a bad character Nice, he was my least favorite Gundam MC until IBO.
>>23666863Because we’re dumb as hell
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>>23666580This shit makes absolutely no sense. I don't care what explanation you come up with, it's bullshit. I choose to believe Tusk and pic related was done in the same vein.
>>23667051The Astray manga, which ran alongside SEED, explains this. SEED was a work that attempted to connect various storytelling mediums.Anyway, the Strike's cockpit was destroyed, so its emergency blast shields deployed, completely mitigating the impact and shrapnel of the explosion, and Kira was *only* exposed to intense heat (much hotter than re-entry, judging by the recovery time), and was lucky to be rescued. The Strike still had its phase shift armor, so it withstood the blast pretty well, all things considered.Ironically, Athrun's survival is more unbelievable. He only set a 10-second countdown to self-destruct, which would have given him a few seconds to escape the Aegis. We see him injured from the explosion, but he's in better shape than Kira.
>>23667075I can allow all the other bs survivals, it's Athrun in the Gouf that I refuse to accept. A'l the others had offscreen happenings or scene cut trickery or a new release of the show rewriting history that you can explain them away with, but not that one. Stab, drop, enormous explosion, no scene transitions or anything
>>23667105The cockpit block was intact and they got immediately picked up by KisakaThe only truly unforgivable survival imo is Mu's
>>23667201There's nothing implausible about that. He was shot by an anti-fortress weapon and he's not a fortress.
>>23667201And don’t forget his Strike was apparently rebuilt from that too
>>23667349Rebuilt into what?
>>23667746https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/MBF-03%2BP208QX_DRAGOON_Strike
>>23667075>Ironically, Athrun's survival is more unbelievable.This is the truth. Let's not also forget that the Strike was rebuilt yet the Aegis was a write-off. Yet Athrunfags will insist he "won" the duel.
>>23667869Rebuilt? Lmao it was barely touched
>>23667783I hate this. I really really hate this.
>>23666608And even had his Gundam help out for the finisher.
>>23667783>>23667894That was pretty obviously just supposed to be the Rouge until they realized at the literal last second that it would make no sense for Kira to keep it when it was supposed to be in Orb with Cagalli. So they made up the "actually it was Strike but mostly made of spare Rouge parts because we already animated it with green eyes and Rouge's headcrest whoops". That whole storyline really doesn't make much sense according to Destiny anyway and really didn't need to exist.
>>23667051Fukuda loves fake out deaths.
Nicol shot first.
>>23667075Didn't Fukuda essentially say >I don't know what's going on in the side story stuff, that's someone's else's businessCause that really makes it hard to me to accept Astray's answer as an intended explanation.
>>23668264That was Fukuda seething at the fact that Red Astray had a katana first. Regardless of how much he seethes, Astray is canon. >featured in both the original trailer for the series but also the opening>Red and Blue (two separate mangas) ran concurrently with the series, mostly covering plot holes>has an OVA>ReHome shows up in the Remaster helping the three ship alliance
>>23668273I agree it makes him look butthurt, but I still put original intent in high regard for story telling, and it just kind of makes me think Fukuda never even thought about the escape plan.
>>23668279He doesn't seem like the kind of person who thinks past the immediate impact of that scene and that scene only.
>>23668273>Astray is canon.>t.fangirl obsessed with prayer, canard, or agnes
>>23668264Even the in show explanation where Kira managed to get out and crawled to Malchio's place where he passed out is explanation enough.
>>23668273Too bad you’re lying
>>23668307Yup, unless there's an actual cockpit death scene like Tolle being beheaded or Heine cut in half, then you can explain all the survivals with "stuff happened offscreen". Well, except for Mu, but he does make the impossible possible after all
>>23668264Fukuda is not the only person who worked on the entirety of Cosmic Era.He decided to have a big explosion which Kira survived with no clear explanation, the Astray manga that was running at the exact same time decided to show Lowe rescuing him.Did Fukuda intend for Lowe to save Kira? Likely not.Is that the story now? Yes. You can choose to ignore it and just go by what the show shows us, and accept that if Athrun made it out of the explosion with zero protection, then maybe Kira could stumble out and collapse somewhere.>>23668273I thought it was him seething at people pestering him about Astray and asking if he was ripping it off. >>23668280This. As far as he's concerned, it was just a cool and dramatic way to end the episode.>>23668281As terrible as Astray gets, the official stance seems to be that we can all pick and choose what we think counts as canon. So I choose to ignore most of Astray.
>>23666533So how does this compare to say, Wackymodder's Seed rants?
>>23668810This is a rant?
>>23668810This guy is just pointing out facts while WM is actively making shit up
>>23668810Still autistic, but isn’t shouting the whole time. Relatively short and sweet. No indication of him paying money for anybody to recolor a mobile suit.
>>23668470Well, they did remove his helmet in the remaster. I also find it funny how him surviving beams had become his main thing in Destiny and Freedom.
>>23666608Need to impregnate that black ass for strong mulatto children
>>23668810Subscribed because he’s not absolutely screeching. Actually liked his GP02 theft one too
>>23668810A hell of lot better. Actually informative and quickly delivered. Pretty well produced too. I thought the fake episode title was cute
>>23666533Oh hey, an actual chill guy who doesn't go into a complete rage meltdown when talking about SEED and actually presents the scene out in detail.He gets a thumbs up from me.
>>23668878There’s more?
>>23666533The explosion is from the positron cannon of Minerva and there's a reason why Murrue Ramius keeps rejecting Natarle suggestion of using Arcangel's positron cannon in earth's atmosphere because it will do significant damage to the surroundings
>>23668959(You)
>>23668964yeah so what?
>>23668903>>23668936Has one about Nina not seeing Gato toohttps://youtu.be/tLC3HHk1gBo?si=rIcrbzgbcJTdB_cL
>>23666533not watching this shit but I'll assume it's another retard that only just realized that the big explosion was from the taunnhauser and not the freedom.
>>23668980Not watching that either. He looks right at her and that’s a fact
>>23666863Japanese SEED antis are just classic mecha fans and otakus. SEED is known as a faggot anime / for women.
Shill?
>>23669415Tourist?
>>23666533Not bitchy? Not cringe? Sticks to facts then says to sort it out yourself? Based and subbed.
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