Is it the best Zeon mobile suits?
I LOVE GELGOOGS I LOVE GELGOOGS I LOVE GELGOOGS
YO WE BE GOOG'N
I like Gelgoogs.
Why did Zeon bother making the Galbaldy when they already had the Gelgoog?
>>23671790Next generation model and/or reusing already prepared Gyan production lines
>>23670976I never got land-based Gelgoogs. Why is that a thing? Aren't they purpose-built to be space superiority suits? Wasn't Zeon already off Earth by the time they started deploying them?
What's a point of the gelgoog cannon when the basic bazooka that can be used by anybody looks like it packs way bigger shells?
>>23671873Was Gelgoog Cannon using shell or beam?
>>23671125Do you?
>>23671854Possibly the Principality hoped to turn the battle around by the time it was deployed, or they were very, very early test models, or even post-OYW modifications. Also, don't forget that a lot of Zeon remnant factions still kept some of their toys hidden away on Earth or in the colonies after the war, or they were acquired/confiscated the Federation, or sold off to third parties like the Blue Corps in ZZ, or mercenary groups.
>>23671854Gelgoog is purpose-built to be all-purpose. It's the new Zaku. You use it everywhere.
>>23672011Fuck yeah I do>>23671628EWWW UGLY GROSS THAT'S NOT A GELGOOG DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
>>23671873>>23671928it's a beam cannon
Ugliest MS line next to dijehs
>>23672023Oh. Alright, nevermind. Do land-based Gelgoogs still have the bank of thrusters under their skirts and legs? Obviously can't fly, but can they jump really good?>>23672032That makes sense. It'd be silly to have an artillery version of your fancy new beam weapon suit and have it's mounted gun just lob shells.
>>23672378Gelgoogs can hoveralso there are cases of Gelgoog Cannons with bazookas instead because sometimes that's the better option
>>23672011I still find it unrealistic that GQ Zeon dropped ALL of their bespoke designs in favor of a shoddily reverse-engineered Gundam, instead of simply taking what they could and applying it to their already substantial MS research. Hell- they couldn't even give this faker a proper mono eye!
>>23672544Makes sense to me. They had the spanking brand new prototype that's geared towards serving as basis for a new mass production model already. Mainline Gelgoog development had to be delayed because encountering the Gundam shifted all their priorities around. Here it's just more effective to focus all in on the already prepared platform than try to update the old one or waste time fusing them when you've got a war to win NOW.Besides there are still bits of Gelgoonity in it if you know where to look (utility equipment on the forearms or color scheme for example, and just has a naginata).And actually in a way they did fuse it with Zeon styling, namely in the propulsion systems. Gundam and Guncannon focus on the backpack thrusters from the core fighter whereas Zaku and Dom propulsion is concentrated in the lower body - hips or waist and legs. Rick Dom sticks a leg onto the backpack but that can be seen as a simple way of adapting the same principle as soon as Gundam data was acquired. Then the Gelgoog reuses Dom-heritage leg thrusters on a much lighter platform while refining the backpack thrusters into early binders. Meanwhile Gyan retains the "simple" backpack thruster format of the Gundam together with thigh-level thrusters akin to Zaku.
>>23672564What annoys me about the GMgoog besides the nubbins that they kept from the concept art despite scrapping any of the intended attachments (bits don't count since they're just jury rigged onto the gundam) is how unarmoured ured it looks, it's got exposed fuel tanks comprising 80% of its legs, the arms are essentially just raw hinges, there's no skirting or panels. It looks like a civilian model rather than a late war powerhouse
Hello fellow gelgoogs
>>23672627The fuel tanks on the legs look like they can be destroyed using vulcans.I like this full armor fan version for this reason, makes the machine look more like a zeon suit that wont blow up due to a stray bullet.
>>23672544I like this fanart
>>23672842Yes, we know. You already said that.
Why was the Gelgoog Jaeger so ridiculously fast? Shit wasn't beat out until Crossbone.
>>23672544On top of what >>23672564 said, anon, you also gotta remember just how absolutely batshit the Gundam was. In 0079, it blasted through virtually everything Zeon threw at it - Zakus, Goufs, Doms and Rick Doms, mobile armors, battleships, and so forth. It makes sense to me that the GQX Principality would just drop most of what they did in place of just mass-producing the Gundam. I mean, that's what the GM is, after all.Also yeah, OP, the Google is fucking amazing. From the original Gelgoog to the Galbaldy to the Vertex Program, I'd say it's both the best for its time and the best looking Zeon MS overall. though the Geara Doga is a close second for me
>>23673116While the absolute sexiest zeon mech will always be the Zudah F, goog is definitely a contender. I think part of why I don't like gqux going is there's features that can't be explained without going out of universe. The gundam has pairs of eyes, albeit thee of them, and the zeon suits are running off monoeyes. Even if zeon decides multiple eyes work better how did they wind up with a GM style screenface?
>>23673120To me, the GQX goog's eyes remind me of that one Feddie Gelgoog from Thunderbolt. But instead of looking like a mix between a jim visor and a goog monoeye, it looks like a mix between the jim's visor and a dom's monoeye? It's odd.It's also worth pointing out that unlike the Jegan, the GM actually has a pair of eyes under the visor, so it could be that the Gelgoog is less a Zeon mobile suit and more of a Feddie suit, but made by Zeon, perhaps? It also begs the question of why the hell didn't the Federation build more Gundams, or why didn't they use whatever project notes they had on Grandpa to make another one besides the original 3 or so in GQX, or to improve the Light Cannon models they already had.
We were robbed
>>23673092Because catalog stats are completely made up
>>23673133I'm guessing since they were banking on the combat data from the gundam the GMs underperformed in the field and zeon wound up with the edge in close combat, leading to them shifting to ranged superiority as the focus, like how in OYW goufs despite being a melee suit got outmatched by beam swords so they shifted tactics with the flight type and custom to keep out of melee.
>>23673133Light Cannon is basically using Gundam limbs on a Gun Cannon chest/helmet. And they did have that Psycho Gundam, so clearly making more Gundams wasn't out of question. They'd just go with the RX-78-1 type faces rather than RX-78-2.It is odd the apparent biggest OYW ace they had was just in an MP suit though.
>>23673511gwiwh
I ended up liking my Breaker 4 Gelgoog more than the custom Gundam I make in every game I can... Though part of it was that it was more fun in the combat system to me.
>>23673133Gundam is a symbol of the victory of Zeon. Federation hates the Gundam name and face as concealed by Psycho Gundam and commented by Gates Kappa.The in universe Foolypedia page also states that the general public had never thought of the Gundam as having originated from the Federation.
>>23673092Zeon design doctrine isn't weighed down by silly things like "physics" or "common sense"
>>23673611>Zudah explodes if it goes too fast>Gelgoog Jaeger just directly pulps the pilot through G forces
>>23673258Its a cool Goog redesign, and I've seen it in a couple of places. Was this a real concept for Gquux or just a fan design?
>>23673671Fanart, GQ Gelgoog was intended as the alternative GM from the beginning.
>>23673753Ah damn, still its a great design, I like the ball jointed shoulder thrusters.
>>23672847Didnt realize someone posted it first
>>23670976i love this fat boy
>>23671169gelgoog marine are the best ones for me
>>23672011I do.
>>236730920080's UMP suits are explained as having like double the speed of their predecessors but half the effective combat times because these thrusters guzzle fuel like your mom does my nards.That's why they all have fuel tanks by default except Zaku FZ - this one is intended as a ship escort unit while the stronger suits are sent into the direct fight. Of course due to logistical limitations and late war chaos nobody had the means to use that doctrine in practice so Zaku FZ struggled to conserve fuel.
>>23671628Don't listen to >>23672026! I think you're a cool Goog.
>>23672026Sorry meant this thing >>23672011
>>23672011Looks like a bootleg Daughtress.
>>23676152The poached UC designs from Destiny are the definition of soulless corporate slop. The worst part is that they actually had their own CE lime going with GINNs ad such but decided that SEED wasn't enough of a 079 remake so they copied the Zeon MS too, with progressively more ridiculous acronym names. Can't wait to see the acronym for Kshatriya or Hamma-Hamma
>>23673611>>23673669You see, by the time the Goog went into peoduction they only had child soldiers left, and their softer bodies weigh less and thus feel less G-forces
>>23682819Yeah, it feels like a Daughtress with all armor removed and just the inner frame exposed.
>>23672564>GelgoonityShould I even ask?
>>23674657Being a marine makes it worse
>>23684143How so?
>>23670976Yeah.
>>23670976Not the best.
>>23674656You seem to have mistaken the 'Goog for the Dom.
>>23673133The mentioned superior Fedgoog coming through >>23672764Hello!
>>23692708Thunderbolt did this weird thing where initially the extra shields were meant to be for blocking debris in the TB sector, but I guess the author saw how much people loved it and suddenly every MS gets them, even those not meant for the TB sector
>>23692717And people gave IBO shit for the spinning Barbatos png
>>23692731wdymthis is not particularly bad
>>23692717>>23692731>>23692745You people are arguing about Johnny Ridden's Gelgoog and IBO, but you both are so blind that you don't even notice that The Ball is a shooting a pink beam from a weapon that was never meant to shoot a beam. Somehow a physical cannon is shooting a beam.All of you have tunnel vision.
>>23692814I assumed it was some buildslop where MS specs don't matter
>>23682848>The poached UC designs from Destiny are the definition of soulless corporate slop. Perhaps, but the designs are already timeless. You can't really improve a Zaku or Gelgoog design. Not to mention, at least Seed used the same mecha designer (Kunio Okawars) that was used in the original MSG 0079 show from the 1970s. So it pays respect to the original. >The worst part is that they actually had their own CE lime going with GINNs ad such but decided that SEED wasn't enough of a 079 remake so they copied the Zeon MS tooBut I will give Seed credit. The truly unique suits were the aqua suits that ZAFT used. And also those doggy mobile armors.
>>23692814Clearly it's just pink colored tracer to spook the zeeks
>>23692833You don't need to copy the Zaku on every AU. Even if most have a "Zaku Like" they can put their own spin on the idea and be great too. See: Leo, Graze, Desultor and Dilanza, Batalla, the Den'ans, etc.
>>23692858>You don't need to copy the Zaku on every AUThe only ones guilty of that are Turn A and SEED Destiny, chill out
>>23692864That's my point. SEED is the only one that does the souless copying. The borjarnons come in relatively late into Turn A and the whole point of the show is digging up old MS (also technically they're RF Zakus, not Zaku IIs)
>>23692872So what are you talking about with 'every AU'
>>23692873Original comment I replied too said "they copied the Zaku becauae the design is timeless", I'm saying you shouldn't copy the zaku and shpuld do your own thing instead
>>23692876Why not?
>>23692880Because doing exactly the same thing over and over is unoriginal and boring and our brains are literally hardwired to find repetition boring. Next you'll tell me you loved Force Awakens
>>23692882>Because doing exactly the same thing over and overBut only SEED Destiny did it?
>>23692917And is therefore one of the worst Gundam entries, glad we could find common ground
>>23692725>Amphibious Marine Combat Group>amphibious>in spaceWUT
>>23692864Turn-A didn't copy the Zaku, those ARE Zakus.
>>23692970They're Borjarbobs, also known as RF Zakus, also known as Geara Doga/Jegan with a bodykit
>>23692966Amphibious in space theoretically would mean they can fight in both space and terrestrial environments? Possibly even during the same operation. Sorta like the Marines >>23692720>>23692724>>23692725These are all peak. It's a shame all the end of the OYW stuff we get in ramroaded into being basic GMs fighting basic Gelgoogs for the most part. Feels like the best OYW MS fights happen immediately after the OYW
>>23692966>>23693023Maybe it means they can fight in space or underwater but dear god don't let them try anything in atmosphere.
>>23692966>>23693023Maybe it means they can do both ground and space, and possibly reentry. Maybe even reach orbit on their own, but that would put them in Zeon Wunderwaffen lebels of thrust
>>23693053Definitely reentry but not the other way around. Not even in Victory can MS get back into space without a shuttle. Regardless, these should be higher than normal trained Zeon pilots. Maybe not special forces but at least higher than average. Just because they are only fighting space doesn't mean they aren't at least trained for reentry and terrestrial combat as well. Sorta like how Marines got deployed in the middle east during GWOT. >>23693032Being able to fight in space and underwater is retarded. Please activate your brain anon
gelgoog sucks
>>23692966It's about specialising in space and colony combat.
>>23692921You make no sense. You're griping about every AU reusing Zeon suits and "doing exactly the same thing over and over" yet can only point to a single series doing it.
>>23693146I read that as him griping about CE using the designs (almost) verbatim. The "doing exactly the same thing over and over" is in reference to>why not?>why [shouldn't you copy the zaku]and talking about a hypothetical where more shows copy it.
>>23693095Technically there's MS that can reach orbit pre-victory. There's Re-Haize from AoZ (though I think that's mars orbit) and the HF Gundams can probably do it too.
>>23693160Yeah that's exactly it
How the fuck is it "verbatim" stolen from UC? If they didn't use the ZAKU name or in mostly green, would it have been more acceptable since the Ginn is already clearly a Zaku expy?
>>23693229>Flip horizontally>add chest ventsLook ma! New design!
>>23693229It's still a pretty radical departure fom previous grunt suits from SEED. Rounder and less detailed, even if still obviously less round and more detailed than the actual original Zaku.
>>23693229I like the Phantom version of the Zodiac Alliance of Freedom Treaty Armed Keeper of Unity since the twin shields brings back that winged look the GINNs have in their silhouette.
>>23693247>>Flip horizontallyIt's called mirroring.
>>23693247same shit as the ginn then
>>23676152>>23671628While I admire the Seedgoog for its homage to older ZAFT ms, I wish it was drawn with slightly bulkier proportions
>>23693229The Cosmic Era Zaku is better honestly. I swear half of 0079's suits were accidentally mirrored.
>>23693229>since the Ginn is already clearly a Zaku expy?The GINN's also pretty significantly different as a design. No power pipes, no shoulder spikes or shoulder shield (has symmetrical shoulder armours instead, unlike the Zaku), no mouth grille, no elbow roundels, all of which the ZAKU kept. The GINN's also got some new features like the head fin, and the backpack wing thingies to distinguish it from the Zaku. They didn't even give it an -06 serial number, it's the 'Zaku expy' just by virtue of being the basic monoeye grunt
>>23693362ZAFT later decided to regress into having exposed power conduits, as a joke
>How do we refined Gelgoog?>Umm.... Make the shoulder bigger...?>GENIUS!
>>23693420>How do we refine Refined Gelgoog?>Umm.... Make an extra set of shoulders...?>GENIUS
>I'm Haman Karn. How do we custom my MS?>Umm... Give Gelgoog some funnels and yaoi hands?>GENIUS!
>>23693732It looks NOTHING like gelgoog
>>23693356I like the ZAKU Warrior just because I think it resembles a Geara Doga more.
>>23693732>yaoi handswat
God I fucking love propellant tanks
>>23693732That’s a Dom, you silly goose>>23693804Disappointed we never got a kit of this guy. The world needs more goog plamo
>>23693732Isn't the Quebely an MS-ified Elemeth?
>>23694200Yesn't. They share the psycommu tech but that's about where it ends Actual inner flame looks like fucking Meta Ridley
>>23693852The fact we didn't get a whole range of thunderbolt kits is one of the greatest crimes known to manI would KILL for a thunderbolt gelgoog
>>23694212And Acguy, and Bull-G, and Perfect Gundam + Braw Bro, and Thunderbolt Gundam...
>>23694344If they made a thunderbolt acguy kit I think I'd jizz all over my ceiling
>>23694345Question is, how would they make all the loadouts? Would they sell a base Axguy kit and then a separate box with all the toys? Woudl they make each loadout a Pban variant?
>>23694365In a perfect world they'd just have all the loadout options included. My ass would shamelessly buy four just to have the full squad
>>23672564>Rick Dom sticks a leg onto the backpackCare to clarify that statement?
>>23695689NTA but it was a literal statement. Gquux rick doms have a third leg on their back
>>23695752And they can unfold to act as a leg too, they're not just there for boosters
>>23673577>and commented by Gates Kappa.Is pic somehow related?
>>23675696Reminds me of how the F4F-4 had an additional two guns thrown in without any corresponding increase in ammo capacity. USN aviators did not appreciate the consequent reduction of over 50% in overall firing time.
>>23693423I unironocally think this looks good and is something original Zeon would do. Like if the war dragged on beyond One Year, and they needed to enhance the Gelgoog to stretch resources. So they came up with an detachable backpack with additional boosters but still keeps to the original look of the Gelgoog. Then give the Gelgoog a beam machine gun.
>>23692858Is there some reason you omitted Jenice?
>>23693852Much like end Dom, but to a greater extent, Bandai seems hell bent on never giving us a modern gelgoog kit
>>23696023Did they at least give us a Gelgoog Jaeger kit in any grade?
>>23695904>etc
>>23696048Just the HG kit from 2004
>>23696249>not even a MG kitRAGE!
>>23696284Gelgoogs just don't get any love from Bandai in 1/144 scale. No RGs exist, and the last HGUC was in 2007, which is almost 20 fucking years ago. Nothing from the Origin or Thunderbolt lines either.I ain't counting CE or GQX
>>23696305yeah dude the gelgoogs we do have are ANCIENT like they can still look ok but they're depressingly antique compared to modern kits. Idk why Bandai fucking hates the gelgoog its one of the most iconic zeon suits. I'm not even asking for a reddit grade or nothing just like a revive or a 2.0 PLEASE bandai
>>23696305>>23696318It is genuinely baffling to me the origin line hasn't come out with a Gelgoog and hasn't absolutely milked the crap out of like they did with the Zakus. I'd be willing to buy a tristar goog, some ridiculous ground type goog, and obviously a standard goog from the line. On top of all of that you could also obviously tack on Char's goog to it all
>>23695752>>23695758Is this a Carnage Heart Tripod reference!?Funny thing is that I painted the Tripod in Dom colors in my EXA runs
>>23696513Looks like something from Makoto Kobayashi.
>>23695752How hackneyed can you get?
Kill yourself now.
>>23704022Who are you talking to?
>>23704022the Zudah thread is next door
>>23705259I wish we had a zudah thread
>>23692986>RFI don't know what that means.
>>23706774By late UC (around the time of F90), all the various space terrorist groups started designing/producing RF versions of old MS, which basically means it's a jegan/geara doga with an exterior that looks like a Zaku II, Gouf, Dom etc with some minor differences and of course, greatly improved performance. They suck against miniaturized MS, but they work great against colony defense forces comprised of older MS. And they're easy to make anywhere because they use parts that can be found anywhere, even on non-military stuff.
>>23706774https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=rf+zaku
>>23705503It gets bump limited and drops to page 12 too quick for us to notice, daily
>>23707124That damn Saturn engine…
>>23670976The Gelgoog looks like a pregnant woman.
>>23674656How much is one hated to get put into a fucking Zaku I that late into the war?
>>23707354Probably fire support assist role given to a volunteering type of coward, a veteran particular to his custom controls Zaku I, or some non-combat role like a mechanic drafted out of desperation The pic looks cool but canonically it's just cadets barely knowing what the hell they will have to do next
>>23707176Nah. It looks like someone who pulled their pants up too high
>>23693356>>23693229>>23693247It always did seem like the Zaku's shield was on the wrong shoulder.
