https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD259cLGDnwEven includes Hathaway cheating on his GF
>>23672674Will this have action scenes this time or just be another batch of talkslop?
Will Sunrise ever realize that total human extermination is not a sympathetic goal?
>>23672699Book 2 had the least amount of actual battles in it, but it establishes a lot of build up for the Adelaide Conference Center battles.
by Takayuki Masuo
>>23672709Wait is that what Hathaway wants? I thought he was fighting for illegal immigrants to Earth.
>>23672709>>23672757He wants everyone to leave Earth. Although he isn't pulling a Char and attempting to destroy Earth/kill everyone. He's going after Federation higher ups to break it apart.
>>23672757Basically he thinks Char was fundamentally right about a lot of things but also tried to hurt the wrong people to achieve those goals. I think he likes to think he's doing what Amuro maybe would've wanted to if he didn't have to spend his entire life stopping genocidal madmen from making things worse instead of actually improving things.There's something to be said for the tragedy of how many good people had to fight for the fairly questionable Earth Federation in order to fight against catastrophically worse things. All the time, energy and lives spent stopping Zeon could've gone to something that actually improved everyone's lot.
>>23672674That messer looks very close to the novel version
>>23672674Will they change the ending?
>>23672781yes, my uncle who works at sunrise told me to be ready for SOREDEMO
>take your medsKEK
>>23672674Mogged by SEED and Wing
>>23672737>IMAXDoes it even matter when it's not made in 4k nor mastered on 35mm reels?
3D pig disgusting all over the place to try and cut time.
>>23672674Did they fix and brighten up the battle scenes, or are they still dark as sh1t like the first movie? I would like to be able to actually see the night battles. That would be awesome. Thanks Bandai.
>>23672709dumb motherfucker >>23672757He wants Federation to do its job
>night fights still retardedly dark as shitAnd to think japan will pay to see this....
Tomino rolling in his grave right now
>>23672757>>23672929He wants the Federation to do what the Universal Century was coined for more than a century ago, for humans to go to space and let the Earth and nature heal with minimal human presence. The current Earth Federation government does not want to do that anymore. Mafty is trying to force this not by dropping an asteroid or a colony, but by directly killing Feddie officials whom they consider corrupt to try to shake up the system.
>>23672870>>23672957If they brighten the battles it would expose how shitty they actually look
>>23672760>He wants everyone to leave EarthIn Tomino's mind, that means humanity must be eradicated. Haven't you watched Ideon or Dunbine? Or even heard the kind of bullshit Scirocco kept saying in Zeta?
>cheatingDropped.
>>23672757Hathaway knows Earth isn't enough for every human. Char said "It's fucked up that humanity will forever fight itself when they are put on either side of a line. As long as there is a difference between 'Earthnoids' and 'Spacenoids' there's gonna be war, so let's get everyone on the same side of the line by making everyone into a spacenoid!" This is probably not his full sincere belief, but it's what he taught his followers to get soldiers. Hathaway heard this and thought "That's almost right, but there are poor abused people on Earth too. They are not uniformly 'the elite' trying to assert power over the poor spacenoids. It's really just The Federation that is setting us up for forever wars so I'll just do a terrorism against them specifically."
>>23673067>This is probably not his full sincere beliefBecause his sincere belief is that existence itself is sin and all life should be eradicated.Fucking new age hippies, we should've banned Japan from making sci-fi stories after the sarin gas attack and executed Tomino via firing squad to prevent these garbage stories.
>>23672674That was fun.
>>23673060>SciroccoHe's supposed to be a villain, anon...Also, Turn A and G-reco didn't involve forcing people to leave earth, just the usual 'stop fucking up earth'.
>>23672737I really like Xi. I hope it gets to do some cool stuff
I watch for her.
>>23673094>He's supposed to be a villainQuattro shares the same beliefs as him. And look where that led in CCA.>Turn A and G-reco didn't involve forcing people to leave earthThe Black History is all about how anyone still living inside the Earth Sphere were left behind when the Rapture happened and must suffer for their sins with eternal eradication by the Moonlight Butterfly.
>>23672957So its King of the Monsters 2019 but with Gundams?
>>23672674Finally, actual gay sex in Gundam. This might be the best one out there!
>>23673357>see short haired woman with man>immediately think of gay sex Freudian slip much?
>>23672975>trying to stop zeon out of principle has led to the "liberal" federation becoming a despotic tyrannical state that justifies itself only by the fact it isn't zeon, making zeon's ideals more and more appealing over timeit's just like.... it reminds me of...
>>23672783Will the Unicorn descend like the Gundam 0 from the opening of 00 to save the Xi from the fishing net?
>>23672779Head, shoulders and chest so far.
>>23673548Except Sunrise actually thinks that Zeeks are good guys.
Why did this take five long years to get out? It doesn't look any better than the first movie.
>>23673609Skinny Karl please
>>23673626They are.
>>23673640Sunrise Studio 1 (the studio making the hathaway movies) had to help out a lot with G-Witch which was a production shitshow which probably delayed this a lot. Plus they initially couldn't do any location scouting because of covid restrictions
>>23673163>Quattro shares the same beliefs as him. And look where that led in CCA.Yeah, being the VILLAIN.AGAIN. If you want to do armchair psych analysis what a work's creator might be thinking about, at least learn to use the motivations of the stories' good guys, not the villains being opposed.You people are just like what the 'media illiteracy' meme talk about.
>>23673512No, no, I thought it was Hathaway and Lane. Unlikely pairing, but still a good one.
>>23673640Covid happened, as you may recall.
>>23673708Tomino has said on several occasions that he relates much more to Char in CCA
>>23672674Is she going to shave up her head entirely? Why? Her old design didn't even have short hair.>>23672699I unironically would like a movie with more talking. Hathaway not explaining his motives in the 1st movie has obviously left some folk ie >>23672709 confused. The bed scene, where Hathaway goes through all the bullshit the Feds do, not being a 1 to 1 was a massive blunder.>>23672769>doing what Amuro maybe would've wanted to if he didn't have to spend his entire life stopping genocidalRetard. Amuro Ray is a dog, a Federation spook. He could've done something. Actually take a stand, start something to help clean up the Federation. But no, instead he becomes a spook for them. Spying on Spacenoids, keeping them down under the Federation's boot.Amuro Ray, the Federation's child soldier, the Federation's sample that led to the torture of a multitude of war orphans under the CyberNewtype program, the Federation's Spook Hound that sniffed around Spacenoid business. The Amuro "leave it for the next generation to resolve stuff" Ray, who takes no responsibility for his title, his role as a NewType.Char only wanted to be a soldier. The PEOPLE clamored for his rule, for his guidance, his light. And so, even against his wishes, he rose up to the role.
>>23673765
>>23673712>Unlikely pairing, but still a good one.guess you really are gay
>>23673712>男もどきな>おい、何してるの?Gay sex ensues. Is that what you envisioned anon?
>>23672737That's nice art.
>>23673765>The bed scene, where Hathaway goes through all the bullshit the Feds do, not being a 1 to 1 was a massive blunder.I don't think they want to demonize the Federation that much considering how they go on controlling the setting afterwards and a bunch of other stuff takes place there.The novel was originally standalone, so Tomino could end with with any kind of downer conclusion without worries.
>>23673765It would have been far too fucking clunky and clash with the direction.
>>23672801Kek. Hathaway confirmed a /m/an
>>23673765The Cyber Newtype program was Zeon I. Origin
>>23673765>>23673771I am retarded. I mixed Kelia with Mihessia's old design.
>>23673822https://zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=11282At the time it was believed Newtypes could only be achieved by being a Spacenoid. The Earth Federation would be at a disadvantage if that were the case. CyberNewtypes were the answer.
>>23673708>Yeah, being the VILLAIN.Mineva says he was the good guy in Unicorn episode 6.
>>23673708>at least learn to use the motivations of the stories' good guys, not the villains being opposed.The heroes don't have any motivation beyond the desire not to die or see humanity eradicated. Where in Ideon do the Solo Ship crew ever have a cause that isn't "don't die"?
I was promised gigi's pussy hair but I'm increasingly afraid we won't be getting it. tomino would have shown it full frontal but modern directors aren't based enough for that kind of thing. they'll hide it with "artistic" camera angles and the most we'll get to see is some out of focus shit or a shot of her when she's like an inch tall on the screen.
>>23673765>Amuro Ray, the Federation's child soldier, the Federation's sample that led to the torture of a multitude of war orphans under the CyberNewtype programDon’t use crap from Fukui’s Gundam, Zeon was already experimenting with using Newtypes for warfare with Lalah and Challia Bull. In Zeta itself it was mentioned how the Titans were emulating Zeon’s tactics (as if them piloting Not-A-Zakus wasn’t obvious enough). Why should Char be given a pass even though he’s directly responsible for Haman Karn and her Neo Zeon and basically fucked off while the AEUG and Karaba got folded into the Federation leading to Londo Bell? “Oh well he actually rose up to the people’s wishes” yes by essentially enacting a dipshit plan that would’ve led to nothing because the Feddies were already moving to space. If fucking Mirai Yashima, a veteran of the One Year War could not get a shuttle to leave the fucking Earth then your average joe had no chance of evacuating to Earth. The conversation with the bus driver in Hathaway shows there were just as many on Earth suffering from the Federation’s capitalist system.>keeping them under the Federation’s boot.Provide one instance in the fucking movie that shows Amuro actually persecuting Spacenoids. Londo Bell was made to combat the rise of Neo Zeon, y’know. Neo Zeon? The same faction that dropped multiple colonies onto Dublin?
>>23673832>Moon GundamFukui fanfiction doesn't count. If the Purus were cloned around OYW then it must mean Zeon already had the idea of artificial Newtypes. Neo Zeon clearly had a cyber newtype program too that seems to be too mature to be based solely on the Titans Newtypes labs
>>23672957The fights in GQX and WfM are so much better choreographed. The night battle of Xi vs Penelope in movie 1 just consisted two dark blobs of CGI mess spamming missiles and lasers against one another, it's a fucking disgrace.
The Federation collapsed between Victory and G-Savior. I wonder why don't they just tell a story where the Federation finally collapses?
>>23674089Early UC is still not milked enough and with GQX, they're convinced that they should just stay in Early UC forever.
>>23674023>>23672957>>23672991>>23673183>MUH FIGHTSAre you 12? Hathaway is mostly devoid of fights
>>23672991Cel shaded shit is already the ugliest shit. Why does Unicorn get to be drawn/traced and visible but not this?
>>23674144see>>23674140
i am so emotionally empty and defeated i cannot engage in pretty much anything new, but i will have to check this out eventually because i loved the first movie and the first trailer too (and Mobius is a great song)
>>23674089They are, it's Crossbone Dust
Why does Hathaway flirt with or sleep with everyone except his girlfriend?
>>23674140What does this have to do with anything? Does that mean production shouldn't put any effort in the little action there is?
Bros i think i might be in love with Gigi.
>>23674382IT means that you're a faggot who should stick to something to your speed like Gwitch
>>23674006I like how you blame Fukui when the text at the bottom quite literally says "Exposition by Shinya Ogura." The dude is the one responsible for the sci-fi/setting material for Unicorn.Congrats on being a fucking retard.
Third movie will end with the Unicorn time travelling to save Hathaway while also redeeming him and reforming the federation Then all the characters will look at the screen and clap while saying "Only through the elimination of violence can we achieve peace"
>>23674648"Only through extreme violence can we eliminate violence and have peace"
>>23674006We don't really know what the Purus are. You can pull non-canon stuff, but in ZZ they're never explicit about it. From all that we can analyze, Zeon's Cybernewtypes are way more advanced and don't really suffer from the same downsides as the Fed's. It would make sense, given that Zeon created the Psycommu and the Fed's were playing catch up on that field.>>23674002>Zeon was already experimenting with using Newtypes for warfare with Lalah and Challia BullWow 2 people, who got to live fairly comfortable and normal lives (as normal as Lalah can be) until their deaths. You could add Daryl to that list and it would still not add up to the suffering from all the Fed's Cybernewtypes.>Why should Char be given a pass even though he’s directly responsible for Haman Karn and her Neo ZeonEverything Haman achieved was due to the Federation's own stupidity. Char has 0 responsibility for it. The AEUG was also done by the end of Gryps. So he, being AEUG's active leader, had no reason to remain in action.>essentially enacting a dipshit plan that would’ve led to nothing because the Feddies were already moving to spaceMoving people to space is simply one of the problems. The colonies still have to export more than half of what they produce to Earth, Spacenoids still have the desire to return to Earth (as stated by Hathaway), many Colonies were not being properly maintained/were poor etc. >to leave the fucking Earth then your average joe had no chance of evacuating to EarthBillions for Trillions and the evolution of Mankind.>Londo Bell was made to combat the rise of Neo ZeonYeah yeah like all police forces they have their noble reasons, they surely don't abuse their power. It's clear in the movie that a bunch of Colonies do not assist LB in fear of riots, I wonder why that is.>y’know. Neo Zeon? The same faction that dropped multiple colonies onto Dublin?Not the same faction.
>>23674648You forgot to mention Quess' ghost appears to dance with and confess to Hathaway.
>>23674512>t. Hathaway Noa
>>23674602It's Fukui's fault for writing something popular that ruined the entire UC.
>>23674790Ok Treize that's nice but you have to let other people in their own universes come to that conclusion
>>23674864>Zeon's Cybernewtypes are way more advanced and don't really suffer from the same downsides as the Fed'sWe know this to be false because they completely fucked up Mashymre's personality and someone like Zoltan is clearly unstable
>>23674864>Wow 2 peopleMore than 2 affected by the Flanagan institute(Chalia Bull was not one of them) especially if you want to use extended material.Also 08th MS team shows Flanagan was doing inhumane experiments on children, the reality of itt is that all programs are pretty fucking bad, they all stem from the same research that began with Flanagan, there's a reason why his star subject was also their only really good one, then there's Arlette(who was literally about to be killed for being useless as a weapon), if you use novels Kuzco al is okay I guess, but then if we're going that far that institute is the same place that did the fucked up experiment on Marion and created the split personality Leila
>>23675326Gundam doesn't care about explaining Cyber-Newtypes, they just want to make you understand which character you should think are evil.Which makes Jona surviving Narrative completely baffling, until you remember he's male instead of female.
>>23675349It's probably just completely dependent on genetic on how well they can handle it, Gates is pretty stable too, but stable subjects also probably aren't good enough for crazy newtype weapons
>>23674602Oh noes I blamed the wrong faggot for being faggots when they are both faggots. The Unicorn novels were already Zeonwank. The anime just made it extra retarded
>>23673640GQX wasn't ready yet, so they moved G-Witch to come out. Studio 1 ended up having to help with G-Witch due to covid interfering with literally everything including the initial steps for Hathaway 2 since Sunrise seems to have a hard on for recreating real world locations for Hathaway.
>>23675235>>23676188Oh Christ almighty, get the fuck over it you stupid shit gibbons. Unicorn changed nothing. Literally everything that happens in that timeframe is a nothingburger for history. That's the entire point. Y'all are so fucking retarded and seethe over the stupidest of shit. Quit sucking off Hasegawa when he's the fucktard destroying late UC with his loli over hype horseshit compared to Fukui trash.
>>23675434great selection of ladies
>>23673765>Retard.Retard. Putting aside that you're chugging the purest Zeon copium, I clearly said it's what Hathaway probably thinks, not a statement of fact either way.
>>23676498They also probably didn't want to do anything that could fuck with Seed Freedom once it was clear production was actually progressing for the first time in over a decade.
>>23676650Crossbone has nothing to do with why Unicorn's story is bad. I do agree nothing happens due to Unicorn though. Nothing happens due to Hathaway either.
>>23676650But.. but.. but my Unicornrinooooos
>>23676778Hathaway is typical Tomino nothingburger too. I don't get why he considers it his "best" work when it just sucks like all the other novels the man attempts to write.
>>23677063Tomino is like George Lucas in that he has great world building, plot lines, and themes, but should be never allowed to write dialogue.
>>23677084He really doesn't, though.
>>23677063Hathaway is actually atypical of Tomino novels. It had an unusual amount of depiction of the inner thought and struggle for Hathaway and character drama. Unlike his other novelization where much more passages were dedicated to explaining the settings of the world
Stop responding to Zetarager.
>>23677084>lucas comparison in 2025fuck off retard
