thunderbolt is huge
why does it look like that
>>23674867Seems like the ZZ isn't that far along in this timeline. The transformation has design cues from the G-Fighter, so this might be an attempt to make a ZZ before they try to downscale it.
>>23674833Can I get a QRD on that thing? Is it Io's final MS? I thought he rode a Zeong
>>23674934>I thought he rode a Zeongthis is after that
>>23674867>>23674930Also it wasn't gattai transformation like ZZ
>>23674952Wait a minute
>>23674952Is the manga finished? Is it translated?
>>23675091>Is the manga finished?just finished a few months agohttps://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2025-09-26/yasuo-ohtagaki-ends-gundam-thunderbolt-manga-plans-new-manga-for-next-summer/.229301>Is it translated?scanlations are up to volume 22, there are 26 volumes totalhttps://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=3_1&q=thunderbolt
>>23675099Shit, is someone doing the last volumes? Why'd they stop at 22?
>>23675103I just read raws of the last few chapters, dont really need words for most of the shit, and then I ran the important seeming parts through an image translator and called it a day.
>>23674833Fatty.
>>23675128where can I read the raws
>>23674833Shit I wanted it in gbo2 but they won't add it now. Do they show him killing scirocco?
>>23675087Holy fuck how have I not realized it was built on the Zeong this whole time?
>>23674833Quin Mantha is such a sexy boss. Never gets said enough.
>>23675187Try jestful,use brave because there's a lot of ads.
>>23674833Calling it now, Io and his newtype loli GF get to pilot the Psycho Gundam.I hope there's a new antagonist and Daryl is officially dead for good.
>>23675249Much appreciated anon
>>23675251That girl seems more like his daughter figure. Pretty sure he fucks Bianca when they are offduty, though.
>>23675291>BiancaLmao, she hit the wall already
Looks cool. Almost like it's somewhere between the G-fortress and an actual battleship.
>>23675305In fairness everybody in Thunderbolt is ugly as fuck
Why didn't anyoen tlel me the manga was peak? And why did they never continue the anime? I know S1 did well, but reading the manga now, the S2 sections were better in the manga. How come the anime had crappy Z'goks instead of the TB Gogg? And why do I never see anons praising best UC girl?
>>23676300The anime at a perfect time because it gets supremely shitty past that point. You don't need to take my word for it, just read it yourself and see how repetitive it gets.
>>23676359It gets shitty for a bit but eventually winds back around. If anything the anime only covers some of the weakest parts.
>>23674833What UC year the manga ended?
>>23676359I kept reading and it only keeps getting better? I just finished Cornelius' death and for the first time in a Gudnam story I'm rooting for the Feds. The Spartan felt more like home than any other mothership in Gundam, I hope one day they keep going with the anime. I used to think the Atlas was ugly but seeing it in action has really endeared me to it
>>23676760The make or break part is when Daryl takes an unarmored Zaku with just two heat hawks and solos a battleship full of feds including the battleship itself, just with two heat hawks that he can throw like boomerangs (yes they come back). If you think that's UC material, then you probably wont mind when they send hundreds of cripples into space and give them all psycho zakus turning what was once a series iconic suit into just a normal grunt suit.Enjoy.
>>23676300At the time, I don't think Sunrise was that sure about animating something that was overtly AU UC. The Thunderbolt anime and Origin anime got a bunch of profiles trying to fit them into the main continuity. After GQX's success that might change though.
>>23676767I want requiem for vengeance season 2
It's kind of crazy how the entire thing goes to shit the second the OYW ends. There's a perfect story of two guys going nuts trying to kill each other on the battlefield and then it just keeps going for like twice as long. It's like reading Fist of the North Star all over again.Just add like one five minute alternate ending where they both kill each other in the final fight of s1 and the battle goes on without even really noticing and it's perfect.
>>23676764The ship was badly damaged and its only escort were a bunch of core fighters. An MS flying up to ship and destroying the bridge is nothing unheard of in UC, and throwing heat hawks like boomerangs is pretty low on the scale of newtype BS. I'm betting Amuro pulled sillier shit in 079
>>23676774Guy ran out of ideas and started going memberberries hard. Member big zam? Here's more of em. Rember zeong? Here's another one. Rember Gundam? Here's Gundam but it fights like its straight out of Gundam SEED. Rember Last shooting??? But what if reversed??>>23676776Amuro shot and dodged good and that was it. He would still get dinged, he would still need lines of supply. He would still need support. He rolled a couple of times, and it was clumsy like he programmed it into the robot. He did not do stupid naruto shit.
>>23676780>get dinged, he would still need lines of supply. He would still need supportAre we reading the same manga? Nearly every fight so far has had one or both sides gimped by lack of supplies. Daryl is pulling some "h-hayai!" shit in the Perfect Gundam but that's just manga depiction of fast movements, a gundam casually taking out grunts is nothing new. And every time there's bene a gundam wrecking face, they get outnumbered by competent pilots and are instantly in trouble. The whole point of the TRUST squad is avoiding this exact scenario
>>23676787Even with the Nu gundam amuro never faced an army solo. He would always be around the soldiery until it was time to fight something strong, and he didn't fly around in a fucking meteor by himself. Hell, even Kou and the Dendrobium had guys nearby.
>>23676760>I used to think the Atlas was ugly but seeing it in action has really endeared me to itHe is BALL!
>>23676780>Guy ran out of ideas and started going memberberries hard. Member big zam? Here's more of em. Rember zeong? Here's another one. Rember Gundam? Here's Gundam but it fights like its straight out of Gundam SEED. Rember Last shooting??? But what if reversed?? I agree. As someone who doesn't really like Thunderbolt, I read it all just to see what the author would do once the OYW war was over.I want to add that Io's story should have ended much earlier. It didn't really make much sense to keep him around after the end of the OYW or after the destruction of the Spartan. Io's story was pretty much concluded around that time. Yet the author insisted on keeping him in the story. I guess as soon weird "Reverse Char" (what if blonde guy was fighting for the Federation instead??) clone rival. However Io lost 4 times to Daryl in combat. So I don't understand what's the point in keeping Io around. I felt like the story could have evolved naturally into something much more interesting. A story focused on Daryl after the OYW. A man trying to find purpose after Zeon falls. But he gradually loses everyone he cares about and is left alone by the end. A wandering samurai type of story could have worked better.
>>23674833Those hips and shoulders ruin the entire design.
>>23676760is this actually by the AoZ guy
>>23675103>Why'd they stop at 22?They didn't, it's an official releases and they've released up to 24 right now with 25 coming in March. It's just no one's uploaded the last couple volumes
>>23674833>>23675084The beefy GP02-esque face feels at odds with the spindly limbs. Also the fact that they rerouted the Zeong's mouth cannon to become a ZZ-like hat cannon is hilarious but I love it.
>>23676881The powerscaling definitely got out of hand, those two pretty much became super duper pilots (particularly Daryl, Io needed help with his not Lalah after all) never before seen in UC. An easy solution would have been to promote them if he wanted to continue the rivalry so they were commanders instead of steadily improving pilots who could do continuously ridiculous shit.Again, I liked thunderbolt for the designs - psycho zaku was amazing when it was introduced. But he never really tried to innovate past that and we got more psycho zaku that were now grunt units, and one psycho zaku wearing a gundam costume while using the braw brow as a meteor unit. Like, the return to space arc was the blandest shit ever. No new suits (not that he needed it), and instead they just gave the GMs more shields and let them link up and turn into a shield ball. Like, get the fuck out of here with that pajeet logic. UC shields were decent, but adding more and letting them link up like some sort of magnetic tortoise is ridiculous in a lazy an uninovitive way.
>>23676881>I felt like the story could have evolved naturally into something much more interesting. A story focused on Daryl after the OYW. A man trying to find purpose after Zeon falls. But he gradually loses everyone he cares about and is left alone by the end. A wandering samurai type of story could have worked better.Lets not forget, the newtype cult was the middest shit ever. Jesus christ, he could have taken his crippled unit mechanics and became zeon remnants or connected with africa korps. Instead the guy makes up his own faction and it fucking blowed.Seriously, the Thunderbolt side stories that focused on characters that weren't IO and Daryl were the best thing that happened to the series. The more disconnected from those two, the better.
>>23674833This mangaka's mechs' tech specifications are always all over the place compared to the setting's he's making side stories forNot a crime but not something to take as core canon
>>23677797Case in point, he shrinked the Balls: >>23676795
>>23677797Actually nevermind, making a Gundam around a Zeong is not transgressive unlike SHRINKING THE BALLS
>>23675305Still would fuck. Io on the otherhand, aged like milk. He looks repulsive now.
>>23680287Io looks the exact same person as he always did, minus the scar.
>>23680551That Io is the uglified Io. He looked legitmately handsome before. And to be fair, Ohtagaki was not in a good shape during his Thunderbolt run and it messed up the art quality.
The Psycho Zaku is the best Zaku variant, change my mind
>>23676780>He did not do stupid naruto shit>literally one of the most iconic scenes of 0079 is him dodging a point blank bazooka while using another MS as a springboard>shooting under his elbow like he gangsta>ripping MS in half somehow???>Olympic athlete javelin throwing >most MA are taken down in frankly stupid and suicidal waysCome on now.
>>23680984Its ok when amuro, and only amuro does it.
>>23680897Halfway through he got some sort of tendon disease and changed his art style. The mangaka curse is real. Or maybe it's the unhealthy working habits.>>23680973It's definitely the best Zaku II variant
>>23680973I prefer Act Zaku, which actually got mass production as it was everything you'd ever need from a grunt of that era's tech, and it was so good that feddies adapted it after OYW, and titans reinvented 1:1 it as a Hizack.
Where do I pick up reading it after the anime?
>>23681085The animation covers the first ~7 volumes or so, movie 1 is volumes 1-3 and movie 2 is volumes 4-7. But if you enjoy it anyway, you might as well read from the beginning so you can see what's different between the animation and the manga version, not that there's a lot that's changed. IIRC the second movie condenses and skips more scenes than the first movie did.
>>23681128Thanks anon. Just saw that scans aren't even up to date and stops exactly where the anime left off.
>>23681140>Just saw that scans aren't even up to date and stops exactly where the anime left off.huh? did you see >>23675099?
>animu looks great>no CGI>but it ends right when it gets interesting again>>23676881>However Io lost 4 times to Daryl in combat.>Io in the FAG vs Daryl's sniper ambush>Daryl runs away (in the anime he loses his left arm there)>FAG vs Psycho Zaku>both units get destroyed, Daryl wins because Zeon sends reinforcements, Feds don't>Atlas vs Naked PS mkII>Io wins, then gets mindfucked by gf's death>Perfect Zeong vs Nise Gundam plus Braw Bro>draw because colony laser firing>Zeong vs Nise Gundam>draw again because colony laser destroys both, technically Daryl wins since Io fails his mission>duel on the Big Zam>Daryl wins (even Io admits that Daryl being a sniper is the best shot)Reminder that in the first sortie of the Psycho Zaku, it smokes an entire fed fleet solo, that's how dangerous it is
>>23680986
>>23681484There is CGI but it's usually traced over or obscured in shadow and stuff. It's handled pretty tastefully.
>>23680551>>23680897This just looks like a guy that was in a band going dad mode after needing to be a parent
>>23681157I guess its not uploaded on manga sites yet. Thanks
>>23676881>>23681484author realized daryl wank was killing his series, because holy shit turns out western opinion doesnt matter. And nips actually hate daryl.>>23681484Peglegs fucking lost so hard the only thing ehe had in his mind before killing himself was the ps zaku. Meanwhile io ends up adopting the two newtype kids who clearly dotes on him
>>23681821>What soilent does to a motherfucker:
>>23681895I find it difficult to feel sympathy for Daryl. Imagine losing all of your limbs and you still think the conflict is worth fighting for. And skip torward near the end, he was running a cult. Atleast you can see some humanity in Io, no matter how big of an asshole he is.
>>23681895>And nips actually hate daryl.but he's a zeek, nips love zeeks
>>23681895>author realized daryl wank was killing his seriesSeries was died when focus on Io
>>23682062>drink the buddhist newtype kool-aid>still considered a zeek
>>23682063the series was dying due to lack of interest(when it became daryl wank), didn't help the author's hand is still busted.
>Only up to 22 is translatedWhat the fuck, it ends with a massive cliffhanger too. Can't find the other volumes anywhere.
>>23682172someone hasn't been paying upor feeding the MTL slopperizer
>>23682179But aren't they officially translated?
>>23682187oh, then in that case someone isn't buying the books to debind them and put them into a scanner
>>23682199fug
>>23682116>the series was dying due to lack of interest(when it became daryl wank)The series was dead before the focus on Daryl. People stopped caring about Thunderbolt after the first anime and the series died due to the long hiatus and the returning chapters were Io focus not Daryl
>>23681895Io adopting those kids should have been his ending. Its his perfect redemption, and makes up for all the kids he sacrificed in the first arc of the series. If they keep him going, there's a good chance one if not both of them are going to die, or there's a risk that he ends up doing some stupid power wank that puts him in the same infamy as Daryl. Just write him off and get us a new guy.
>>23682199All that effort just to translate chapters about an army composed entirely of kririn, and that crazy lady in fact, being crazy.
>>23682247Bianca was his redemption arc before adopting the kid and her android buddy. He found someone to care about and form a companionship with her, unlike at the beginning when he was just a narcissitic jerk. Io is quite compelling imo, got alot of Ls and came back more mature.
>>23682199Nato manga has until ch 189
>>23681484>shifting goalposts to whatever I feel like.Lmao
>>23682602>being accurate is moving goalposts
>>23681484Whatever happened to this cima garahau painted zaku?
>>23681484You can't whine that's it not fair that Daryl had help from Zeon reinforcements when both suits were immobilized. But then claim it's fine when Io does it. Io had the entire Spartan team backing him up on the assault on Monk island. Then Io had 2 other co-pilots helping him pilot the Perfect Zeong. Plus an entire Federation FLEET backing up Io during his battle against Daryl in the Perfect Braw Bro. So many people shooting Daryl and getting several lucky shots on him.
>>23682678Based Io the regular Joe. Very relatable compared to some naruto superhuman with plot armor and boomerang axes.
>>23682641Isn't this the unarmored one Daryl uses to fight the Atlas before he gets the finished one?
>>23682689Dunno, the manga was black and white.
>>23682708Well, it's the first complete model they have, which they mention has been synced up to Daryl's original combat data. Might be a colored version of the fight in one of the volume covers or first couple of pages though
>>23682685>Based Io the regular Joe. Isn't he some sort of Super Ace? He may not be a newtype but he's not some regular pilot. He's top tier.
>>23682785>Loses every now and then>Makes mistakes>Barely gets away with his life against regular guys>Needs other people's help>Needs superior equipment to keep up with a zaku II in a gundam costumeNah, he's just a regular joe.
>>23682785He's a Yazan-tier ace, and mostly an oldtype with a certain caveat.Thunderbolt makes up a new distinction of "recievers" which are basically oldtypes who can hear newtype thought waves, and he's one of them. Of course, any strong enough newtypes can brute force their voice into anyone's mind. Also, when in the "room of time" (the name thunderbolt gives to the kira kira) he gives off a dark demonic aura similar to Dozle's, but I don't know if that qualifies as some sort of newtype manifestation. He's also linked to a specific newtype girl, Lily, who used to have a twin who boosted her powers. Said twin sacrificed herself for Io, and he inherited the ability to boost Lily's power.
>No daryl, you were the cuck all this time>psycho zaku II...
>>23682785He is somewhat inbetween. No doubt he is decent, but he can't pull nonsenses like Daryl.
>>23674833For you
>>23682818The Dozle thing I think isn't necessarily a display of newtype powers, perhaps more like a newtype reading a person's heightened emotional state, but I could be wrong. I feel like before newtypes became as established as it currently is, the older shows used to play a bit fast and loose with oldtypes and newtypese.g., Lila in Zeta was apparently not a newtype but still had experience as well as some sort of battle-honed senses. And she still got some pseudo-newtype moments where time seemed to stand still, especially particularly right before Kamille kills her. Yazan also seemed to nearly awaken as a newtype but shut it out of his mind with pure willpower instead of letting it happen.
>>23682789>>Needs superior equipment to keep up with a zaku II in a gundam costumecostume my ass
>>23683726Wouldn't it have been better to give Daryl a Gelgoog and make a Psycho Gelgoog? The Gelgoog is supposed to be superior to Gundam in terms of performance.
>>23683719by Zeta it's pretty well established. All people, or at least a very large portion of the population, have the potential to awaken as newtypes given the right circumstances (usually fighting for your life).
>>23683764Daryl is supposed to be an ethnic swapped Zeon Amuro and Io is supposed to be Federation Char. If Io piloted a Zeong then it makes sense for Daryl to pilot a Gundam.
>>23683726>>23683764Keep in mind that's not the same Psycho Zaku that he used in the TB sector, the one the monks give him is a Psycho Zaku II (as in second iteration of Psycho Zaku, not the psycho version of Zaku II) which already has greater specs.
>>23683726Nah its just a gundam costume. Daryl defeated the super duper mega federation zeong with 3x pilots in a zaku with a costume. That's how good he is.
>>23683764>The Gelgoog is supposed to be superior to Gundam in terms of performance.No? It's close to Gundam level, but the Gundam is still both more agile (0.93 G max acceleration vs 0.84G, while also having a more widespread distribution of the thrusters) and has better armor.
>>23680897>>23680551The guy got a fucking concussion or something and now has partial paralysis in his right armNo shit Io looks a bit ugly now
>>23675251Daryl's been dead for good since the last volume, the new villain is Scirocco
>>23684057wait, it's still going?
>>23684059no it does another fucking "and the story continues after the manga ends" ending like 0083 with missing Gato never resolved
>>23684059That's the ending. Io and Bianca joined the Titans while Sirocco, well, he did his own thing and now fighting Titans.
>>23684063Rebellion tied up all loose ends. The existence of Gato's fanboy pretty much confirms the guy is dead and now his corpse is being used as propaganda. Similar storyline to Unicorn.
>>23684057>the new protagonist is SciroccoI will now read your manga and buy every single toy.
>>23684057I love how most of legacy mechs got extreme makeups to the point of beyond regconition and then here is The-O with Gyan shield and that's it.
>>23684072The fanboy impersonator literally has nothing to do with the other mystery faction that found his cockpit first retardread the actual manga or fuck off
>>23684075You already got that
>>23684078>extreme makeups to the point of beyond regconitionwhat? most just get a couple sub arms and that's that
>>23684082That one was some isekai nonsense with a generic shonen protag self inserting as him.
>>23684082genderbent scirocco?
>>23684087No>>23684088Clone
>>23684085>most just get a couple sub armsThanks for proving my point.
Thunderbolt did GM Gelgoog before Gcucks and did it better.
>>23684100To be fair, this may be a GM cannon 2 (or was it guncannon II? I forget) and the base model is fairly similar, but this is the custom gundam-ized model that was clearly designed as a new iconic "gundam" for the manga.
>>23684104Feddie Gelgoog is pure sex
>>23684116Bull G is the most obvious "fake gundam" i have ever seen. Doesn't have red parts to complete the tricolor pattern and the crotch looks similar to GM's diaper. Unlike Atlas which came out as a sincere unorthodox gundam design. It is abit hard to tell it is actually a Guncannon but i would think it is a GM rather than an actual Gundam.
>>23684121I wish Bandai make kits for the rest of Thunderbolt mechs someday. Or some Chang studio pick them up. Would kill for a Bull G, Federation Gelgoog and Perfect Zeong.
>>23684128And yet it looks amazing. If I hadn't read the manga I would believe anyone who told me this was the next main gundam after the FAG
>>23684130>Perfect Zeong MG or HG never ever
Did we even get any kits for S2 aside from the Atlas?
>>23684140You can work around UC Zeong kit if you are into modeling, but the shoulders look like something difficult to recreate.
>>23684140What are you talking about? We did get a MG Perfect Zeong, it exists. Now if it's about it not being reissued in years then that's another thing.
>>23684157Thunderbolt thread, Thunderbolt version.
>>23684157This is the Thunderbolt thread retard. He's referring to the Thunderbolt version of Perfect Zeong.
>>23684156I never liked the Braw Bro, but between Thunderbolt and Gquux suddenly I love it. Amazing how one's tastes can change
>>23680984being a newtype =/= stupid naruto shitI can confirm as a real life newtype
>>23684082That looks like shit.
>>23683956Gelgoog has higher reactor output and much greater sensor range. It may have slightly slower acceleration, but Gelgoog has a higher top speed. The Gelgoog's shield also has Anti-beam coating. The Gundam shield does not.
>>23684057>>23684059>wait, it's still going?No it ended. Io lost to Daryl again in their final battle and he runs away. Similar to how Char always loses to Amuro. Daryl's teammates broke the Antarctic Treaty and used decided to use nukes to kill the monks. Daryl's "death" was left ambiguous to the reader. We don't actually know if it was a dream, newtype vision, something real, or if he survived. Daryl's newtype power was going crazy into over drive. He might be dead or he might not be. The Manga just sorta ends by saying the "story continues" and showing the readers a few panels of Zeta era suits fighting each other.
>>23684249>Broke the treatyThe treaty only applies to conflicts between the parties that signed it. The Nanyang alliance left the Federation, and thus is no longer protected under the treaty.
>>23684075Thunderbolt to Super Gundam would be somewhat of a downgrade against The O
>>23684255>The Nanyang alliance left the FederationThat's not what happened.1. The Alliance is an autonomous region.2. The Federation just decided to invade the South Seas Alliance because they didn't want them to gain new technology. So they launched an invasion.3. Even if a region has rebellious elements, you don't immediately jump to using weapons of mass destruction like nukes.
>>23684360Nanyang shot first while shouting about infidels. The Federation was passing through and cited the treaties that allowed them to do so.
>>23684249You must be on some weapon grade copium to think Daryl "might have survived". Karla is dead and he saw her ghost, he also took his helmet off out of space to kill himself. And even after that, his limb were sent to his surviving comrade. He is deader than dead.
>Daryl is still alive bro!
>>23684364>The Federation was passing through Oh please. Don't stretch the definition. This wasn't some civilian air plane or cargo boat passing through the SSA waters. The Federation rolled up on their doorstep with the most advanced and latest BATTLESHIP-CARRIER ship in their entire fleet. The Spartan ship is the size of a small island, and they even brought a squadron of mobile suits and their latest advanced Gundam. You don't get to "pass through" autonomous territory with weapons of war.
>>23684387You don't seem to understand the rule of Gundam. Unless you see a dead body, then no main character is truly dead. Have you learned nothing from Gundam Seed?
>>23684249>daryl wo-Retard>>23683333>>23681895I would also like to point out he tried to kill io in a zaku i at the end and fumbled so hard we got >>23682633
>>23684403By the same token, the Alliance was already deep into developing the psycho Zakus with the explicit intention of attacking the Federation. Both legally and morally, the Alliance shot first
>>23684405>You don't seem to understand the rule of Gundam. Unless you see a dead body, then no main character is truly dead. Amuro is dead, Char is dead and so are Bernard, Mikazuki, Rebellion Gato and so on.
>>23684405Daryl killed himself. There is 0 reason for him to fake his death at that point.
>>23684506He needs to show up later with another psycho zaku ii. But maybe this time it has no arms and solos Titan forces with just its commander antennae.
I honestly think S2 of the OVA must've bombed and Bandai scrapped all their plans for a Thunderbolt anime. What other reason in there for them to make only two kits of S2 designs while even while it was still a manga they made like a dozen kits for it?Real shame too. I was looking forward to kits of some of those designs like the Gelgoog and Acguy.
>>23684528I agree, though it's worth mentioning that they didn't have much manga to animate past that, so maybe it didn't bomb, but they just decided to put the entire line on hold, that is both anime and kits. Not sure how Bandai manages these things internally
>>23684534they've been too focused on that metaverse shit that it bombing really fucked most of their plans
>>23684550I refuse to believe that, they only released like 4 shitty HGs reusing old molds for that metaverse crap, I doubt it was ab ig investment, The fucking TCG probably has more investment than that
>>23684601metaverse was a 130 million USD lossfor reference, gundam as a whole earned 645 million USD in 2022 for bamco
>>23684609I know Japanese execs being hyper-conservative traditionalists that are a decade+ behind the trends is a meme, but it's also a fact so often I genuinely don't understand how they manage to stay afloat.
>>23684435>psycho Zakus with the explicit intention of attacking the FederationThey never displayed any explicit or open intention to attack the Federation. Re-read the story. The Federation just didn't want the SSA and Monks to have the Reuse P technology.
>>23684528>I honestly think S2 of the OVA must've bombed and Bandai scrapped all their plans for a Thunderbolt anime. There were complaints from Japanese fans that Banrise rushed S2 and cut out a bunch of content. For example the Battle of A Boa Que was supposed to much longer and more brutal. There were other things that were cut too. An interview was given earlier this year. Banrise and the Producers of Thunderbolt decided to wait until the Manga was 100% complete before making anymore Thunderbolt anime. They may also reboot the anime and redo it since it's been 10 years since the original Thunderbolt anime was released.
I still laugh at the scene MC gets out of his MS and the other guy starts seething he lost to a guy without arms and legs
>>23684667Anon did YOU read the manga? What do you think the Zakus were for? Lighting candles in their temples? The whole point of building the Zakus was to attack Side 3, steal the Solar Ray, a banned WMD, and use it to piss on the moon, a Federation member
>>23684699>implying that the moon is a subset of the Federation when it's the other way around
>>23684671>the Battle of A Boa QuBut it's not in the manga? It's like one page of Bianca being like "wow that sure was a battle"
>>23684703I don't know the "offcial" politics, if each moon city is it's own "country" or if the entire moon is a single member state of the Federation or what, but the fact is that they're part of the Federation. In fact, given the point in the timeline where TB takes place, I don't think AE has even started doign the "sell to both sides" thing so Levan Fu's whole "it's the MIC leading humanity astray" spiel makes little sense since AE is just getting started by then
>>23684699>What do you think the Zakus were for?Doesn't matter. Owning and building Zakus not illegal. The SSA literally have mobile suits patrolling their borders.
>>23684705>it's not in the mangaGet your head checked.
>>23684104Sex
>>23684717what about the part where they attack solomon and side 3 being defended by the feds
>>23684699Anaheim Electronics on the moon is not part of the Federation. They are their own Autonomous city. They have a partnership with the Federation, and the Feds are supposed to provide security and protection.
>>23684717Owning a private army of child soldiers, performing horrific banned human experimentation including turning disabled vets into quadruple amputees and brainwashing them, brainwashing citizens into suicide bomber tactics, planting spies in active federation military vessels, stealing federation assets, harboring zeon remnants including war criminals, pretending to be a federation member state but refusing to respect what that entails, owning at least two stolen zeon superweapons (psycho zaku and big zam), do I need to go on? Remember the whole "Iran has WMDs" thing that ended up being a bullshit excuse ot go to war? These guys actually do have WMDs and are specifically planning to use them against the federation.
>>23684730That's... what being in the Federation means, doesn't it? Isn't the Federation like the UN? A "neutral" army that serves to protect all member states? Of course there's some corruption behind the scenes like every big organization, but in practice that's their role, isn't it?
>>23684699Are you forgetting the Monks have their own mobile suits?
>>23684743what does that have to do with anything? The're not banned form having mobile suits, they're banned from having forbidden reuse p techonology among other things. Depending on where you live, you're allowed to own a gun. You're not allowed to own a nuclear bomb with a targeting system set to a government building.
>>23684734The Federation is a world government. Not an army. Individual national governments and national militaries were dissolved when the Federation was created. The Federation runs everything.
>>23684759No, each member state has its own government, as seen with the various member states like the Republic of Zeon and other colony officials.
>>23684763Those are just different levels of the same government, federal (federation/world nation) to state (side/earth region) to municipal (colony cylinder/city).>various member states like the Republic of ZeonRoZ, Side 6, etc only have independent governance because they are specifically guaranteed autonomy due to previous negotiation and war. Sides 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 and the moon never had that kind of autonomy according to any lorebooks.
>>23684087It was Gundam's version of Zeorymer. The basic bitch isekai protagonist gets replaced by the actual Scirocco as the manga goes on and he has to help the Oldtypes defeat Scirocco from the inside of his mind.
>>23684802does he do the icicle thing?
>>23684746>banned from having forbidden reuse p techonology among other things.No they aren't banned. There's no law against it. The Federation secretly just didn't want them or anyone else to have access to the knowledge. And by The Federation, I mean Anaheim Electronics. They wanted a monopoly on the tech for the next generation of mobile suits.
>>23684763>No, each member state has its own government,No. It's the same government for all countries. The mayor for a local City still works for the Federation. >as seen with the various member states like the Republic of Zeon and other colony officials.Republic of Zeon only has autonomy because they fought a war and negotiated it with the Federation. The other Colony Sides don't have independent governments. They are all part of the Federation.
>>23684873>>23684778psh now you're gonna tell me the OYW was actually a civil war
>>23684877I mean, it's not far off. Principality declared independence from the Federation after all.
>>23684879psh now you're gonna tell me all human-on-human wars are civil wars
>>23684881I think it depends on whether the Federarion recognized Zeon as a separate nation state, or if it still considered it a rebel territory. I imagine tothe Brits,the American revolution was a civil war, but Russia invading Ukraine is not despite both being ex soviet states. The difference lies on toher states recognizing ukraine as its own country, but since there are no other nations in gundam... unless Jupiter counts? Don't think they even learned of the OYW until it was over though
>>23684528Thunderbolt anime was not some sort of ambitious project to begin with. It had very little episodes and most of those were just to advertise the manga and 2 new Ver Ka MG kits. Bandai is either abandonned the idea of milking Thunderbolt or just wait until the definite anime adaptation started. Keep in mind, there is no kit for Thunderbolt manga, anime kit only.
>>23684079>The fanboy impersonator literally has nothing to do with the other mystery faction that found his cockpit first retardThe fanboy is literally the point of that storyline. Gato has become this mystical immortal hero due to propaganda and the fanboy was used as a "proof" of his survival. The soldier's morale always get better when they think there is something to rely to, either elite reinforcement or a specific idea to fight for. The idea of an immortal demigod fighting on your side is like that, a propaganda to make you feel better. Try to catch that political context next time you read a war themed manga.
>>23684249Haven't been keeping up since Daryl defected from Zeon.I assume they got wiped out, again?
>>23684249that's one hell of a cope your huffing there. the big zam blew the fuck up there's simple no way he survives that shit.
>>23685191retard
>>23684325That is unless the G-Defenser is developed from the TB after it's destroyed in battle
>>23685256This would have been the perfect ending if this were an anime.Io plays the drums and matches the same tune that was played in the start of the anime. Zoom out to outer space. Maybe show some mobile suit wreckage. The end.Hell, even if he wanted to keep the series going it would have been the perfect time to put another guy on the front seat. Maybe one of those child cadets that Io sacrificed in the first arc, maybe, a jupiter guy under scirocco's command. But nope, keep Io going even if he no longer has a horse in the race.They are most definitely bringing Daryl back or killing off one of his kids to motivate him.
>>23685325nah I'm pretty sure the next chapter or two would be the last. Mind you the author's hand is still fucked and he's clearly ran out of ideas for this series.
>>23685140Technically the Atlas is manga ver., the anime version is Pban
>>23685361It's already over with the final VOLUME out let alone chapter
>>23685260>There is a mysterious faction and Gato is still alive because i believe it
>>23685479retard
>>23684072>The existence of Gato's fanboy >confirms the guy is deadThere is no logic that links these 2 ideas together. Try again.
>>23685225>Haven't been keeping up since Daryl defected from Zeon. >I assume they got wiped out, again?Do you mean Zeon remnants? They are still around, but it's left very vague how much strength they have left. The Zeon remnants return to the shadows to rebuild. Possibly return as Axis in the future. If you mean the Monks that Daryl joined? Yes they got wiped...but it's very, very, very weird how it happened. The Monks did everything correctly, and were about to win. Literally one button press away from winning. But the author wrote a lot of contrived and cooky ideas to stop the Monks from winning at the last second. Lots of betrayals, double and triple crosses, and everyones' IQ suddenly dropping 20 points. Then the Federation brought out nukes and nuked the Monks and obliterated them to stop them winning. Daryl's final fate is left unknown. His body was never found after the final explosion. It's like the author built up the Monks to be this powerful faction, gave them everything, but then suddenly decided at the last second that he didn't want the Monks to actually win. So he killed them in a badly done way.I'm very disappointed with the ending. It's like the author just wanted to end the story quickly and didn't want to properly end it.
>>23685620this retard literally didn't read the manga
>>23685689Your post is a disappointment. A total waste of space.
>>23685507>>23685611Imagine being this dense and lacking critical thinking. If you actually read the manga, the dialogues literally said it was impossible for Gato to survive. And before you complain about this " storyline" being abandonned, it was a fucking epilogue section made of 4 chapters.
>>23686547No body found in cockpit = no confirmed death.Basic logic.
>>23686547Why would he include an entire wishy-washy no confirmations escape pod scenario if you weren't trying to leave an out for him? You don't write stuff like that into a story without purpose.He even had to include an escape pod and kou randomly deciding "uh I don't know why, but my instincts are telling me he has to be captured instead of killed right now!" sequence. There was an entire chain of changes to lead to an empty escape pod and a "tune in next time!" jingle.
>>23686559>Why would he include an entire wishy-washy no confirmations escape pod scenario if you weren't trying to leave an out for him? That's solely to tell the origin of his fanboy and to keep his presence last longer than it supposed to be. Gato didn't appear after the crash, he is dead.
>>23686553>No body found in cockpit = no confirmed death.Holyshit
>>23686760>to keep his presence last longer than it supposed to beYeah, surviving in an obvious survival escape clause will get you that.
>>23686761Neither of them died either. They "ascended" to a higher plane of existence. That's why both of their cockpit were empty.
>>23686761They're one with the Kira-Kira
>>23685507>>23686547>intact escape capsule>no body, not even bloodYeah, Rebellion Gato is alive
>>23687533>>23686761https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYCaIbUz7A
So the Thunderbolt Gundam is just a pseudo ZZ?
>>23692881It's a G-bull-Zeong hybrid
>>23692883Sounds fucking awesome on paper but the proportions are sinfully malnourished sigh
>>23693088Much like Atlas, looks kinda bad when still but amazing in motion
>>23676780>Guy ran out of ideas and started going memberberries hard.You call it memberberries, I call it a love letter>>23684168The Braw -Bro has a pretty meh design, bit when used as a dendrobium, it's peak kino
>>23693850If he wanted to commit to the whole zaku in a gundam costume bit, they should have given it an mmp-80 with the 120mm zaku machine gun barrel and optic jury rigged onto it.
>>23693940The Nise only had the head vulcans and two beam sabers when it infiltrated Luna II, all other weapons were obtained on-site
The one thing that bothers me about this Manga is that after Season 1, the author doesn't really give any satisfying mecha battles. He tends to just destroy mobile suits of the main characters without any epic showdowns.The Braw Bro connected to the Zaku Gundam (sorry I don't know the name) VS the Federation Perfect Zeong was one of the most disappointing battles I've ever seen. SO MUCH hype went into the build up of that battle. Lots of advertisements in magazines. But the battle was a joke.Dendroboum VS Neue Ziel from 0083 was epic.But this? The Braw Bro Gundam VS Perfect Zeong was super short. They clash a few times. Then Io runs away scared. Then both suits are destroyed. As a mecha fan I was very disappointed.
>>23693987There's a ton of great fights. Pretty much anything involving Trust squad is peak mecha, Io infiltrating the volcano is great, Daryl rolling through Luna II is great (even if the Braw Bro is a mite OP with I-fields on each funnel that can tank entire fleets worth of beams),
>>23693987I really like the combats and would love to see pic related's fight which lasts for 3 entire chapters untill getting cockblocked by the colony laser
>>23694012The why did the Braw Bro Zaku Gundam VS perfect Zeong battle suck so bad? He didn't give us a cool battle. The psycho Zaku vs full armor Gundam was so much better.
>>23694039>>23694044The duality of /m/an
>>23694044He just wanted to do memberberries of ao bao qu. As long as it had a final shooting reference, it would be fine.Can't wait for the anime adaptation that plays a jazz cover of Meguriai
>>23694630There are many references to the old show, and it's great
>>23693987>>23694044Secondaries out.
>>23692883>>23692881>>23693088I'm more interested in seeing if it actually will last long, or if it'll get destroyed so its parts can be used for making G-Defenser for the Super Gundam
>>23684881Yes. Welcome to the cosmopolitan-pill
>that mental rampage by Karla
Gkeks Char if he Thunderbolt>>23706263Karla is unironically worse than NinaPotato Karla is very fuckable, tho
>>23680984You forgot the context of the black tri-stars was doing another attempt of the jet stream attack when amuro countered their movesAlso >ripping MS in half somehow???What are you talking about? The only time this remotely happened was when he pulled a gouf's cockpit open
>>23710920I don't get it.
>>23711677They had a newtype head in a jar to help manage the thunderbolt zeong's psychommu.Char is a head in a jar in that picture.
