>Gundam Wing 30th Anniversary video releases>most relevant Gundam has been in decades>does nothing with >continues to make more UCslopretard alert
It was also the 40th anniversary of Zeta and they did nothing with it as well
>>23692674The anniversary video was a testbed to see if fans wanted new Wing content.It was never a guaranteed.
>>23692709I thought they were in the middle of releasing a bunch of FT stuff?
>>23692709No it wasn't. It was done because Wing was the biggest in the franchise until SEED came along. >>23692729They were not.
>>23692822>Wing was the biggest in the franchiseThat was never the case. It also got lower ratings than G
>>23692674>most relevant Gundam has been in decadesThat would BE GQUUUUUUX which ya know...made Banrise money unlike the Wing video>>23692709>The anniversary video was a testbed to see if fans wanted new Wing content.It was literally just an anniversary video retard they did the same shit with other anniversary videos like All That Gundam, Complete Mission and Ring of Gundam. They aren't going to seriously pursue new Wing content when the studio is backed to the wall with projects that need to get finished
The hubris of wingfags never cease to amaze
>>23692701They're gonna animate OL Haman for Zeta's 40thn.
>>23692899G flopped though and has no relevance.Wing had better ratings in Japan and the west and is, overall, more successful.>>23692903GQX made less money than WFM.
>>23692925>GQX made less money than WFM.It literally reached a new milestone for the franchise and the first movie is the second highest grossing movie in the franchise
>>23692925>G flopped though and has no relevance.If G flopped the AU would not exist retard
>>23692674They just don't give a shit about anything but Seed and UC. Seed Freedom Zero got announced almost immediately after Freedom came out. Even if it wasn't in the plans initially and wouldn't be out until like the 35th anniversary, just announcing that Wing would get a new animation after the reception the video got would get people opening their wallets for whatever you put out in the meantime.
>>23692899>It also got lower ratings than GThen how come Wing got sequel OVAs and G didn't?
>>23692674Need to wait for the UCboomers to die out before they could start catering to the non-UC fans.
>>23692943And that would've been for the best, shitstain
>>23692899Sumizawa and Nakamura literally point out that it was the most popular show since First before SEED came along. Ratings were not lower than G. Cope more you illiterate fag
New Year's Reiyo!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvuYnMinHMc
>>23692674>>most relevant Gundam has been in decadesdo wingfags really?
>>23692974LOL, SEED is next after UC.
>>23693034LOL, now it isn't because 00 and SEED exist.
Do you *really* want Endless Waltz’ ending ruined?Do you *really* want Frozen Teardrop adapted?
>>23693408Yes. Give me my RG Snow White already.
>>23692674I don't think it's completely nothing, it certainly is more than G Gundam and what Gundam X is likely to get:>Re-issue of the Gundam Wing and Endless Waltz Blu Rays>RG Wing Zero TV>turned P-Bandai HG wing kits into normal retail releases for countries outside Japan>Tamashii Web S.H. Figuarts Heero Yuy is regular release outside Japan (he gets figure before Amuro...)>Tamashii Web Robot Spirits Wing Gundam TV is regular release outside Japan>new Wing Manga>GFFF Wing Zero Cloaked Custom>1st non UC suits for PS4 GBO2 are Wing Zero EW and Tallgeese III>Miku x Wing Zero Collaboration>Overwatch x Gundam Wing collab (meh but still counts)>1st time screening of Endless Waltz in movie theaters outside Japan>shit ton of t-shirts, acrylics, apparel, plushies, and other softgoods>cafe and store events with Animate and >ton of in person Staff/Voice actor eventsAlso Wing is still definitely driven by girls. Everyone in the audience at the Christmas event here looks like they fujo who are at least over 40.
>>23700256There's even more stuff. Two-Mix is releasing two new anniversary albums for Wing. A bunch of HGs for the G-Unit manga sidestory to Wing are being reprinted. Bandai was also sponsoring several collaborations in Asia, just this year there was a 5 kilometer Gundam Wing themed fitness run in Hong Kong with a pop-up store where you could buy Heero's jersey top, and a separate collab with KFC merch like a Wing Zero Custom fried chicken bucket.
>>23692925>G flopped though and has no relevance.Citation needed
>>23700348easy, it didn't get equality with the same amount of merch
Why are Wingfags so retarded?
>>23692674Are you the guy who freaked out because someone said 00 is Wing, But good?
A Frozen Teardrop adaptation would be the biggest moneysink for Sunrise ever. But I'm so on board with one because you know it would have the best animation they ever produce. I can actually see them doing it at this point.
>>23693408UC got ruined so why not AU?
I dont care about UC I just care about Tomino Gundam and the spin-offs are good partly because they lean on the setting and themes of tomino gundams.Maybe make something good and we can finally move on from UC (Wing isnt and SEED is popular but not good).
>>23692899>the show that put Gundam on the West and on par with fucking DBZ till 0079 shat the bed and killed Gundam in the West for over a decade>errrm Wing was actually really le hecking stinky and nobody watched it Shut the fuck up, you weren't there
>>23692899>That was never the case. It also got lower ratings than GLmao. Sit down zoomer.
When did you realize he is a retarded hack nigger who contributed nothing to Gundam's success, was directly responsible for nothing iconic about the series, destroyed the UC setting more than anyone else with his shit sequels made by none of the original staff and completely misunderstood the appeal of Gundam, and all his cultlike fans are tranny zoomers?
>>23700977After I watched Unicorn, but why did you post a pic of Tomino? Is that supposed to be him laughing at Fukui?
>>23700977After I watched Zeta
>>23701011I didn't know Fukui was responsible for Zeta too, the more you know...
>>23700977After I watched Daitarn 3
>>23700977>sequels made by none of the original staff ???Zeta and CCA still had some of the original staff involved. But you can't expect the same exact staff that made MSG 0079 to stick around for almost 15 years to make CCA. People have families and friends. They move on and life goes on.
>>23700977OP, Please
>>23701096He's obviously talking about Harutoshi Fukui, he completely misunderstood the appeal of Gundam and created shitty sequels (Unicorn, Narrative and Moon) that shat on the original's legacy and had no involvement from the original staff.
>>23701096>Zeta and CCA still had some of the original staff involvedthey did not
>>23701299yes they did
>>23701313no, not really
>>23701316There is no "not really". There's no middle ground. Either they were or they weren't. And the answer is yes.
>>23701323You can compare staff on ANN and easily see that you are full of shit
>>23701326>You can compare staff on ANNYOU'RE the one full of shit.
>>23701299>>23701316>>23701326except Yasuhiko and Okawara literally worked on Zeta, shitstain
>>23701339They had minimal involvement, their roles replaced, were shut out of meetings, and had no direct contact with Tomino. Please stop being ignorant.
>>23701339And the rest of them?
>>23701364>They had minimal involvement>>23701378THAT'S NOT WHAT IS BEING DEBATED.WERE THEY PART OF THE STAFF?YES/NOTHE ANSWER IS YES.LEARN ENGLISH.
>>23701378They were working on DEEZ NUTS
>>23701364Post source.>>23701378Don't move the goalpost.
>wing fags mad that nobobody cares about their gay little show start attacking tomino to draw attention to their threadKEK
>>23701364>Please stop being ignorant.That's rich, coming from a Wing fag.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2022/01/26/yoshikazu-yasuhiko-on-gundam-giant-gorg-and-making-manga/“During the original Mobile Suit Gundam, my relationship with Tomino was very positive and productive. After the success of the series though, Tomino shut out everybody else and acted as though he was the only person responsible for its success. So there was almost no communication between him and I after this, which made it very hard to work on Gundam. After all, if you have to work together, there needs to be communication."https://www.ourstarblazers.com/vault/524a/Yasuhiko: Yes, it was easy. Especially when we were working on First Gundam, I knew what he was thinking. We were like comrades in a way. But when it came to the sequel, there were various reasons, but he went in a different direction, and I couldn’t follow.Interviewer: When you got to Zeta Gundam (1985) and Gundam F91 (1991)?Yasuhiko: Yeah. Around the time of Zeta, they shut me out and said, “Don’t come again, but if you do, make an appointment first.” I was shut out.
Newfags only know Tomino via twitter memes and know nothing about the making of 0079 and who was involved. What else is new
Okawara worked more on Wing than he did on Zeta btw
Zeta shares more non-voice actor staff with Wing than it does with 0079
>>23701587There's definitely more to this story than what is being said. That's my feeling at least.
>>23701587>“During the original Mobile Suit Gundam, my relationship with Tomino was very positive and productive. After the success of the series though, Tomino shut out everybody else and acted as though he was the only person responsible for its success. So there was almost no communication between him and I after this, which made it very hard to work on Gundam. After all, if you have to work together, there needs to be communication."So THAT's why the sequels were vastly superior to the original...
>>23701598>the sequels were vastly superior to the original.no one says this but trannies
>>23701592and that's a good thing as he can't draw for shit
>>23701599>implying your favorite cartoon isn't a rehash of zeta and ccasilly wing fag
>>23701604it's a rehash of 0079 and closer in aesthetics and themes to it than zeta was
>>23701600but enough about any animator on zeta
>>23701592And even then, Katoki had to fix his shitty designs later
>>23701606It's a rehash of 0079 all the way to CCA>closer in aesthetics and themes to it than zeta wasWrong
Literally every single person who got into Gundam in the last 10 years is a tranny. If you didn't watch Wing on Toonami you are seriously cancerous.
>>23701587Based
>>23701604my favorite show is 0079 (dubbed), followed by wing (dubbed) and G (dubbed)try again
>>23701587"With the Gundam Unicorn novels, the author Harutoshi Fukui is someone I regarded highly. Despite being so young, he writes with a sharp perspective on social situations."Enough reason to disregard Yaz's opinions.
Unicorn is just CCA but with good animation and actually acknowledges ZZ
>>23701626Unicorn is not canon
>>23701629I didn't say it was
>>23701613You're cancerous, Because -you- didn't watch it on YTV!
>>23700977When did you realize that he is a genius master of storytelling who laid the foundations for Gundams success, was directly responsible for its most iconic designs (Gelgoog bros rise up), elevated the UC setting more than anyone else with his great sequels directed by himself, the series creator and completely understood the thematic core and meaning of gundam rather than appealing to what insecure manchildren and plamo faggots liked about it, and his most dedicated fans went on to work on influential mecha series in their own right, such as Hideaki Anno and many others??
Watched a few first episodeSo it's basically love story between autistic boy and schizo girl, right?
>>23702159You don't seem to get it. Even though UC was finished, Banrise wanted more UC anime to sell more UC gunpla. So they selected the era between CCA and F91 and decided to fill it with stuff (even though Tomino said that time gap was an era of peace with no battles). First they wanted a novel written to test the waters. Banrise selected Fukui to write it. The Unicorn Gundam novel was the first Gundam novel ordered by a committee. Fukui was selected because he was a corporate yes man and did whatever Banrise wanted. Then once the novel was written, the committee ordered Unicorn to be made into an anime. Nothing about Unicorn's development was organic or natural. It was designed from the ground up to only sell gunpla and give Banrise a way to stretch out UC. The anime helped sell Unicorn gunpla because fans liked the transforming gimmick of Unicorn. The reason why Unicorn sequels have been delayed or canceled is because fans are finally getting annoyed with the story going nowhere and making no sense. So there had been some criticism from fans. Tomino has also stepped in and, according to some producers, harshly reprimanded the Unicorn staff and Fukui for not being more original. He told them to seriously think about the story they want to tell, and to stop relying on his past stories (Colony drops, colony lasers, Zeon, etc). The Producers and Fukui apparently took this pretty hard and Unicorn has been delayed while they re-assess how to move the story forward.Meanwhile Banrise is focused on the success of Gundam Seed Freedom and has already moved on from Unicorn. As long as they sell gunpla they are happy. The next big thing is Gundam Seed Freedom Zero and the next big seed movie.
>>237009470079 didnt shit the bed, it was popular during its initial run on toonami but CN took it off the air after 9/11 for "reasons" and when it came back a year later it was dumped to the night shift where it failed.It still has not had a complete broadcast run of all episodes here.
>>23702217>0079 didnt shit the bed, it was popular during its initial run on toonamiNot really. The ratings were meh. The animation was too old. IIRC Toonami/Cartoon Network wanted to commission new anime that appealed to American fans. Like what CN did with Big O Season 2. Cartoon Network asked Bandai to make Big Season 2, and paid for most of the budget. For whatever reasons, Bandai didn't want to continue doing this and tried to convince Cartoon Network that it was cheaper to show older Gundam anime like MSG 0079. But they could still get the same popularity and ratings as Gundam Wing (even if the animation was older). Obviously this plan didn't work.
>>23702260If you were around back then you would know the animation wasnt even the issue, they already had multiple shows of much older vintage airing on that channel for years by that point.Every anime that aired on cn back then was already old by the time it was there.They had dbz and wing airing uncut and unlike wing there was no uncut 0079, even when it eventually aired at night.
>>2370238870s/ early 80s anime looks very different from 90s and later anime. A lot of anime design and animation characteristics aren't fully developed there.Note Lupin III Part 2 was another big old show from the late 70s show they tried airing in 2003 and was a failure, ending up incomplete.
>>23702388>If you were around back then you would know the animation wasnt even the issueDude. The original Gundam animation looked very old by 2000s standards. Every kid noticed that.Even back in the 1979s the OG Gundam looked budgety and dated. They had to redo the animation for the MSG Gundam movies.
>>23701597Yeah, it sounds like he's salty because most of his later projects weren't as successful and now he wants to steal some credit away from Tomino.
>>23700256Yet despite all that, Katoki still needs to be sued for copyright infringement if any major non-G-unit Wing project wants to get off the ground
>>23702445
>>23702441>he's salty because most of his later projects weren't as successfulThat was Tomino though>Meeting those standards, Tomino continued, requires a collaborative effort. The original Mobile Suit Gundam required the talents of mechanical designer Kunio Okawara and animation director Yoshikazu Yasuhiko, despite his personal opinions of Okawara's designs or Yasuhiko's story ideas. "What's important as a director," he said, "is to be able to work with people you don't really get along with." Tomino confessed that this has been a problem for himself as well. "After Gundam, whenever I worked on a project, I kept thinking about how I wanted to do things my way, and I've come to realize that that is why I have not been able to create something greater than Gundam."
>>23702445He just doesn't want to do full designs of the upgrades if they aren't going to be used for an anime (since Bandai then could get someone else to do ''for animation'' sheets, ignoring him), Still, if Bandai wanted so much they could just ignore Katoki completely and get someone else to design the upgrades from zero.
>>23702445>Katoki still needs to be sued for copyright infringement if any major non-G-unit Wing project wants to get off the groundWhat the fuck is that supposed to mean?
GODtoki won. Cope more.
>>23702499they can't ignore him because he's the only one that's involved with making product of the design too. basically if he does it, like 3/4 of the work for making the model kit/figure is done too.
>>23702433Cartoon network wasnt airing 2000s standard anime when it aired the 0079 dub in 2001.
>>23702515Oh, I see you're just an ESL That's why your previous sentence made no sense.
>>23702528>Cartoon network wasnt airing 2000s standard anime when it aired the 0079 dub in 2001.Okay. 0079 was very dated by 1990s standards.
>>237025280079 looked dated back when it came out. You can't raise an audience of primary and middle schoolers on DBZ, Samurai X and Gundam Wing then sucker punch them with 0079.
>>23702844>You can't raise an audience of primary and middle schoolers on DBZ, Samurai X and Gundam Wing then sucker punch them with 0079. Someone finally said it in a simple way. Thank you.
>>23702159>completely misunderstood the appeal of GundamIf that was true, Unicorn wouldn't be one of the most popular entries in the series.
>>23702878They should have brought over Gundam X like the Toonami folks wanted. Similar mecha designs, character designs, animation, model kits. An alternate universe to get people ready for the idea of different settings. G Gundam did well for the same reasons. Would have worked with X.Bandai's insistence on 0079 kneecapped the franchise in the west for at least decade, if not more.
>>23702921Bandai had been obsessed with trying to make UC a "thing" in the West for decades. They won't accept that Americans aren't interested.And if even if they did like UC, most Americans wouldn't like the constant Zeon pandering in UC. If anything they would cheer on the Federation crushing Zeon.
>>23702923I hadn't considered the Zeon pandering aspect. Its always felt like another name for Imperial Japanese revisionism, I guess that would be a big hurdle that Bandai can't even see because of culture.The fandom in the west seems mostly to have grown in the following years due to the model kits, with the shows being secondary interest at best
>>23702933The main issue is that there's a big distortion between what's popular on social media and what actually sells in real life. The people who post on social media are often times just a very loud minority. But companies like Bandai think this represents all of the Gundam Fandom.So when Western fans on Twitter, Facebook, etc...post Zeon memes and how much they love Zakus, Bandai thinks "Wow. SEE? Western fans DO love UC Gundam. I was right! We need to keep pushing UC to Americans!"The reality is most Americans don't care about UC. If you showed them an RX-78 statue with Amuro standing next to it, or a Wing Gundam statue with Heero standing next to it, then most Americans would choose Wing Gundam.
>>23702911you can thank trannies for that
>>23702186At least try to get your facts straight. Unicorn was pitched to Gundam Ace by Fukui as a gag story because he wanted to try writing a comedy for once. The Ace editorial staff turned it down and suggested something different. Moon Gundam was that, which was eventually tweaked to the novel we got today. There was as no fucking committee. Also, Tomino's presence did nothing of the sort to delay the project at times. His comments came because they were leaning too hard into what he established versus creating new. That's all. He didn't harshly reprimand anyone. Ffs read interviews jackass. Seed zero won't yield anything. A prequel story will not eclipse the film SEED is done after that.
>>23703881>Also, Tomino's presence did nothing of the sort to delay the project at times. His comments came because they were leaning too hard into what he established versus creating new. That's all. He didn't harshly reprimand anyone. Ffs read interviews jackass. Tomino did. The Producers of Unicorn and NT said so while trying to laugh it off.
>>23693408I LIKE absurd science fantasy, faggot.
>>23701877Cucknadians please refrain from comment
>>23702445Why do retards think the artist of a project is also in charge of writing, directing, funding, distribution and marketing?Reminds me of the psychos who think Tetsuya Nomura is responsible for every decision Square has ever made that they dont likeTruly third world behavior
>>23704826He's probably a macaco or a cucaracha.
