Was she really that bad?
>>23699951>Manipulative>Unfaithful>Traitorous>Uselsss What do you think
>>23699954Anon, I already love her, you don't need to keep selling her to me.
>>23699951yes, can you imagine the super dangerous haffu coordinator haffu psychopath babies she would have squeezed out of Kira-kun?
>>23699951Why isn't she fat
>>23699951Of all the Hoko Kuwashima voiced characters, Flay and Natarle were both the most fixable. Hell Natarle was a good ship Captain outside of a minor blunder when she was focusing on resupplies instead of attacking GENESIS immediately in SEED. As for Flay, she would have been a far better mate for Kira to bridge the Natural and Coordinator divide. By the end of SEED she had grown a lot with the increased perspective on both sides.>>23699960Half Coordinators in setting received the genetic best of both worlds. If not for the societal stigma it would be a boon for mankind to interbreed with them as George Glenn intended.
>>23699951Favorite character, her school girl logic applied to war was a highlight.
>>23699951She was based and did nothing wrong. Also she’s hot.
>>23699951is this AI?sighflay needs more hentai
>>23699960sex
>>23699951I was infuriated with her but saw her grow and have a meltdown and realized she's just a realistic woman and racist whose fake love was slowly becoming genuine, and I felt really bad for her by the end. Good character, one of the many cases where a Gundam character, especially female, starts off grating before you realize she's human, which made her memorable and endearing
>>23699951Not even remotely close. She was a child ffs
>>23699951Yes. She is a baddie.
>>23700042>>23700067
>>23699951I love Flay and think she is the best character in seed and is one of the best Gundam characters in general. I also love the drama around her character, she totally makes the first half of seed way more enjoyable and it noticeably falls off a bit when she stops being in the focus, I really think it's a writing blunder that they didn't continue her storyline more closely. In an alternate timeline she should of been the Strike Rouge pilot(would have been funny to reveal after everything she is a decent pilot as well) and survived to be Kira's main girl. There is something about seed where Kira is the only one who can fight and keep everyone alive for a lot of it that makes sense that he'd come back to a hot redhead to make love to. Even if her love is fake at first, the fact that it becomes real later just makes it better. Something feels right about it
>>23700611am i crazy for saying this is the best sex scene in fiction. nothing felt more raw emotional and real than this
>>23699951Great girl. Like everyone, I hated her at first. If I can understand that they decided to kill her to show how bad war is, I don't understand why they made it so that Kira did not hear her space ghost. I watched the remastered version so I'm not sure the original version had that, but most of the shipping between Kira and Lacus happens in the opening and endings. It's one of the worst offenses I've seen of a show deliberately forcing a ship down the viewer's through. I'm watching Destiny now and they should have definitely kept Flay alive. Her dynamic with Kira was much more interesting. I don't know much about that Freedom movie, but I assume there's no mention of Flay past Seed really. I wished they'd at least give her and Murrue good scale figures.
>>23699951She's a based atoner. She did do things wrong but she tries to make them right in the end which is a pretty cool thing to do.
>>23699951Shes bad in a really good and interesting way. And SEED becomes much worse when she isnt on the Archangel.
>>23700804I think id say SEED is one of if not the best Gundam series purely carried by Flay if they kept her in focus till the end of the show. The latter half feels way weaker without a significant focus on her. She doesn't even need to survive or anything, she can still die, but she was very much one of the most interesting characters in the show. Lacus is written to be a boy's blank slate female dream, Flay is written as a realistic dream girl
>>23700693Care to explain?
>>23700833How is Lacus the boy's blank slate dream? She's quite the opposite. Imagine being Athrun, you just want a hot loving chick to go back to between missions. Instead you find out that she's become a terrorist. Then imagine being Kira, you're just chilling on a nice villa on a cliff. Then you're targeted by special forces at night and the whole house is destroyed. Worst part is that she has a doppelganger with bigger boobs and a nicer personality. Meanwhile, Flay is the actual dream girl. The hot chick you had a crush on decides to fuck you out of nowhere. By the time you start asking yourself questions, she has already fell in love with you. Not only that, but falling in love with you made her into an objectively better person.
I love fat bitches
>>23701697>nicer personalityYeah stealing somebody's identity is one of the nicest things you can do :)
She's the one source of entertainment in pre-Azrael SEED. Her trying to pussy-whip Kira into being her attack dog Uncle Tom was the only interesting part of Cosmic Era. Apart from maybe the space whale, but that never even pretends to be going anywhere.
>>23701707Lacus deserved it
>>23699960Reminder the original ending to SEED was the following:>Kira dies>Arthurn ends up a cripple>Flay ending up pregnant with Kira as the father and thus giving birth to a human the way Glenn intended for Naturals and Coordinators to breed.
>>23701852I found it note worthy that all coordinator/natural romance was coordinator male x natural female.Maybe conflict wouldn't have escalated as much if PLANT engineered the naturals some bitches.
>>23701852Where did it say that about Flay?
>>23699966>Half Coordinators in setting received the genetic best of both worlds. If not for the societal stigma it would be a boon for mankind to interbreed with them as George Glenn intended.According to Astray mangas, Half-Coordinators were genetically superior to Naturals but still inferior to Coordinators.
>>23699951No, she was great. A very realistic woman. You can look at the popularity chart for females in gundam to see how realistic they are. The most popular are boring Mary sues, very unrealistic characters. The most hated are the more realistic like Flay and Reccoa.
>>23702413>The most popular are boring Mary sues, very unrealistic characters.Cagalli?
>>23702569Yes?
>>23702569how dare you
>>23699951No. She gave Kira the encouragement to fight even if it was manipulative and self-serving. It was what everyone needed from him as the most capable person around.
>>23702703This, if you are the only Chad in the entire ship capable of piloting the giant murder robot to defend all the refugees on the ship then it's totally expected that the hot redhead gives herself to you to keep you motivated to continue being the giggachad who keeps doing that
>>23702671No, I meant she was the most popular character in the SEED Freedom character poll right?>>23702703She wanted him to die in battle, anon
>>23702713based
>>23702747she also wanted him to kill more coordinators, if he died then it would just be a bonusbut then I guess you forgot that when kira was lost after the strike's explosion, she had a moment of regret on her face after being told he hadn't returned and was MIA
>>23702963I mean, that was after he already broke up with her
You think Kira's dick was designed for maximum female pleasure?
>>23702976lacus hands typed this
>>23701852The original ending to SEED was Flay getting a bomb planted inside her and exploding on the Dominion akin to what would happen to Paz in Ground Zeroes.
>>23701628ive just never seen a sex scene in a movie anime or series or anything that felt more real than the one in SEED with kira and flay
>>23700611mfw there's no actual doujins or art that actually represent this canon scenewtf???? guys? AI prompters???>>23700693meh you can't see shit
It just really bothers me that they never introduced anything sex related again in SEED. It's like fans hated it and they backtracked from it hard. I mean the next thing you get it Meer's tits but no Cagali x Athrun, no Kira x Lacus, no Shinn x Luna, no Ramius x Mu. Nope you just see one sex scene, like one big panty shot in Destiny (and that was in the remaster only), and then meer's boobies. that's pretty much it. what the heck?
>>23703255watch freedom
>>23703255Fujos, man. Sex between a woman and man is a surefire repellant in most cases, it's a miracle they still remained attached to SEED despite Kira and Athrun having girlfriends by the end.
>>23703257freedom didn't have sex. it almost had ntr but noooooooooooo the western audiences aren't ready for that kino.
>>23703259bro Lacus was like two movements away from getting raped.
>>23703259It had a ton of horny, you're focusing too much on purely sex. The sex scene wasn't even originally there, it was only added in the compilation movies.Fukuda has removed consistent in making most of his works horny, nothing changed.
>>23703261>removedremained consistentdude's openly talked about how much he values putting in sex and ero
>>23703259>freedom didn't have sexNot on-screen sex, but uh, if one pays attention to Kira and Lacus footprints on the sand in the end, well...
>>23703258It's just weird because they always ship Kira and Athrun but they have no chemistry with each other at all past like the first 10 episodes. As soon as their homies died, Kira and Athrun were fucking going for the kill for each other and even once they forgave each other, shit definitely felt more like "ye we're cool" but the dynamic definitely change. One series later and they can't even talk to each other normally without being retarded lmfao. >>23703260but did she tho? no she didn't. therefore NOT HORNY. i hate how that one guy made a doujin of that moment but then used a fucking fat ojisan instead. REALLY?>>23703261I swear I remember seeing it in remastered. and yes bouncing tits and I think you have one luna shower scene (no nips) but I'm just saying you show like the only ONE on screen sex scene in ALL of the Gundam and have nothing like that for the rest of the fucking series?
>>23703264Damn, Lacus got taken doggy right on the beach
>>23703264i can't remember why they did this lmao
>>23703265Yes, it's in Remastered because that came after the Compilations.There wasn't really much of a point to it anywhere else. Flay using sex to manipulate Kira was an extremely major point of her. Do you just want a random cutaway of Meyrin giving Athrun paizuri instead of just fanservice? cmon man. he likes hornyshit but he wasn't making a hentai.
>>23703269>Do you just want a random cutaway of Meyrin giving Athrun paizuri instead of just fanservice?you wouldn't? meer's scene should've had her done an implied blowjob instead with cum on her face.or at least can we just get better seed doujins good lord it's just all yaoi and rape.
>>23703274gonna be real, not really. I've jerked it to flay and meyrin more than anyone probably should but I'm not missing pointless sex in the anime. sure, not like you can really make destiny all that much worse practically, but still. it's more impactful when it's got a reason to exist besides making you want to cum.
>>23703277im just saying you give us the banana in seed but then you won't even mention the banana ever again?
>>23703281Athrun literally thinks of fucking cagalli's brains out to win a fight
>>23703284IT SHOULDVE BEEN AN IMPLIED SEX SCENE AHHHHHH
>>23703288I'll give you an implied sex scene
>>23703297I'll go check if there's any good flay, luna, ramius or meyrin stuff again. i just find it hilarious that i could just technically watch that space hentai for ramius stuff.
>>23703300it's all fucking ojisan shit why
>>23700694>Flay stays alive into Destiny>She somehow ends finding her way onto the Minerva to groom ShinnFund it
>>23703371>Flay stays alive into Destiny>because she's kept as a sex slave for ZAFT's aces
>>23703373Heine puts it in her hiney >>23702224Unlike Coordinators though, at least Naturals can reliably breed
>>23703259I dont think Bandai was going to ok a Lacus rape/cheating scene followed by a Kira reclaiming her scene, anon. No matter how much Fukuda may have secretly like that.>>23703255It's 20 years ago now, but Seed received a bunch of parent backlash in Japan at the time for merely showing Kira getting out of Flay's bed. Gundam is targeted for teens to adults but there's often at least a few kids that are watching, at least when it's on TV. Might be different today, the 2nd Hathaway film may include a sex scene.>>23703265Fujos love the rivals trying to kill eachother and then shipping them. It's all about sublimated passion. The fact Kira and Athrun are friends and don't want to be fighting with one another only adds to that. Seed is also just very Final Fantasy melodrama-esque, which naturally appeals to fujos.
>>23703378fortunate for her she already developed an addiction thanks to Kira "Anal Guy" Yamato
>>23703383>2nd Hathaway film may include a sex scene.too bad hathaway's girlfriend is ugly as shit. seriously any girl he could've gotten and he picks the one that literally looks like Amuro and not even the cute Amuro like Patlabor Noa is.
>>23703253I think I found one fan comic:https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/85845205
>>23703404cmon, that isn't nearly enough. that's less explicit than the anime.
>>23703405Well, crap, I don’t know. I think a good artistic depiction of the scene would have to give a feeling of emotion that would accompany the physical sensation. If I could draw it, it would have been erotic without necessarily being gratuitous—I would draw the nipples but keep the genitalia hidden, for one.
>>23703253>meh you can't see shitYou probably need a better screen.
>>237034133 hours of gratuitous, raunchy, uncensored sex in every position they can achieve as happens when you get your first gf
>>23703417based
Made for spitroasting between Rau and Yzak
>>23703385Is he?
>>23705224it is known
>>23699951need to be the easily manipulated MEAT of a Total Bitch Sandwich
>>23705404Agnes doesn't look enough like a whore in this image.
What if Flay lived long enough to get the dick sucking lips they gave all the girls in Freedom?
>>23705267What is the context??
>>23699962She subsists solely on a steady diet of Innovator semen.
>>23705650who could ever know>>23705616then we'd probably see her state mandated gloryhole service
>>23705616
>>23705766Which state?Orb?
>>23705777Lacus's reforms were the only way to bridge the gap between coordinators and naturals
>>23705773Pretty sexy, definitely would.
