No dub EVER. Deal with it.
>>23704739>Dubそして、貴重なものは何も失われなかった。
What did you like and dislike about the premiere?
>>23704739Is that supposed to be a problem?
It annoys the fuck out of me that crunchyroll is floating a "put dubs only in theaters lol" now. They are doing it with Zombie Land And I guess a release of Fruits Baskets Prelude.
>>23704764I dislike how little it's being promoted internationally. Barely anything. Guess the average anime fan just wants fetish slop.
>Magical armor = /m/????Can I post about Card Captor Sakura here too?
>>23705923there was some gag doujin where she summons THE HIGE and Turn A comes out
>>23705923All previous threads were fine:>https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23650175/#23650175>https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23315994/#23315994>https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/17801118/#17801118https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/16754287/#16754287
>>23704764>LikeMurdermanlet MC>DislikeUncanny animation
>>23704739Good. I want it Jap.
>>23705923now that I think about it Sakura's not very apt, her outfits are specifically mundanepart of her gimmick is that her magic powers don't have anything to do with her clothes, the clothes are made (and forced on her) by her friend so she wears different weird frufru dresses all the time instead of the usual one single Combat Cheerleading Bridal Whore outfit all the time (plus mode changes)
https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2010909671394279888
>>23705923Precure is /m/
>>23704739More like difficult to dub, but still. Remember, Graz originally had the licensing for the dub, and while the legacy cast needs to keep their dub names, the rest can keep their original names, though they could make nonsensical dub names for like three of the armors when the two who had a barely changed dub name (Shakunetsu = Heat, Kouya = Wilderness), since the names of the other three are plain and lame. Suiren could be renamed the Armor of Waves or Currents, Senko could be renamed the Armor of Flash, and Sokyuu could be renamed Armor of Celestia.
>>23707839precure has transformations, sakura don't. Her costume is handmade
>>23707810RAEP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJflo-z7e7A
No subs for episode 2...
>>23708331Just wait for Crunchyroll to pick it up like before, OP trying to "own the dubfags" but should be lucky this is even getting subs to begin with.
>>23708054To be completely honest, I would rather they take their time if they decide to dub it, so they can do it right. Believe it or not, Samrai Troppers got very big when it was named Ronin Warriors because before that, it was just Samurai Saint Seiya. Sure, it's great on its own merits, but outside of the West, Samrai Troopers can never get past Saint Seiya's shadow. >>23707839>Precure is /m/Remember when Precure had a giant robot episode made by Obrai? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ub8hdby6TM
>>23708346Maybe. Or it's just in Latin America, Europe, and Japan that Saint Seiya is more popular. While it is and will always be a legendary masterpiece, more people are invested in Samurai Troopers because the nostalgia hits harder.Say, how do you headcanon the existence of Hariel? Me personally, I say Hariel is the actual name of the Ancient One in the English dub (otherwise, he's simply Kaos, and we don't know him much other than he forged the Nine Armors from Arago's original armor and that he has a descendant, Lady Kayura, who we don't know if she's still alive or not after a new demon usurper, Ramaga, turned the place into a chaotic mess). Could also connect the Ancient One with the Armor of Inferno, which is the ultimate power in the story anyway, and whether or not we will see it again redesigned for Shin Den or keep the design as-is because it's a sequel.
>>23705923Depends on if it's fun like this or shit like Infinite Stratos.
>>23708352That's also true, keep in mind, I don't think Samurai Troopers don't have huge place in Japan's fandom, just I always pictured it as an ironic twist of fate, as Knights of the Zodiac never stuck in the US for various reasons. >Say, how do you headcanon the existence of Hariel?desu they could just not bring up Hariel since he wasn't mentioned at all in the OVAs, as much as I love the EN version, I can memory hole that lore of Inferno since it only exist as an excuse for toy branding when they were brought to the states, which is even more of a mystery since Ryos name was still in the toy box.
So is everyone supposed to overlook Gai being a demon that randomly killed innocent people? The OG team wouldn't tolerate him.
Protect his smile, anons.
>>23708366Shuten/Anubs was a demon who killed many, who also used women and children as bait, and he was forgiven.>>23708367Rip, he was too good for this world.
>>23708369We all witnessed his redemption and what he went through. If they do the same with Gai, then I'll be cool with that, but knowing Bandai... I have my doubts.
>>23706158>manletWait, Gai is actually a shortie?
>>23708370I mean, we're only two episodes in to know for sure that they have in store for Gai, all we know for sure is the poster by Troppers they had outside of Musashi, where all assholes that got what was coming. >>23708377Reposting sheet, but he's pretty standard height, Musashi is the smol one of the bunch.
>>23708393Also, reposing relationship chart, featuring spoilers.
Nezu sensei
The board reads:Intensive course - Conquest of the Human World 1
>>23704739Ronin Warriors?
>>23708456Yep, a direct sequel 30+ years later.
>>23708307I feel the powah
>>23708235KILL YOUR GRAMMY, NOW!
https://nyaa.si/view/2063832How was the 2nd episode?
>>23708396Kinda mad that this pretty much spoils that Ryusei is probably gonna bite it soon.
>>23709035Pretty good, the murderhobo is a funnier guy than I thought.
>>23709157What? How?
>>23709164Shown in the opening as the Green Warrior, but clearly has a replacement lined up. Talks about how the armor puts strain on him, and how he's basically too old to be a Samurai Trooper. Ryu's probably gonna bite it before the second opening.Red Flags see >>23708367
>>23709425The ending clearly shows the death flags than the opening. The opening can easily replace all of Ryusei's shots with Shion's, though the crying fit will be completely different, like him punching a mirror. Some of the shots on the ending can have minor changes, which shows when Shion is part on many group shots, and have less parts to replace.
So, among the main Ronins for the new series, who is your favorite? While I may yet judge, Shion could be my personal favorite for being the cool guy of the five. I won't say much if you choose Gai, as someone is starting to see him as someone who can fit in well in Symphogear due to his love for singing while fighting (he is yet to sing while in full armor, though), and honestly, they could be like a gender-flipped version of the Symphogear cast if you squint too hard due to their potential for singing (Gai just loves anything Showa, Kaito loves his rock and roll, and Musashi and Yamato's ideal hero also has opportunities for singing, though we're not sure about Shion and Ryusei's tastes for songs for now).
emblem
no emblem
>>23709493
>>23709494
>>23709492>>23709493>>23709494>>23709497At first, I was going to say it was odd for Shion to not have an emblem on his armor, but then I realized none of the Ronin/Troppers have them, and Ryusei is the odd one of the bunch.
>>23709493According to the leaks, the emblem disappears when Shion wears that armor. It's because that's the leaders emblem. Maybe Shion doesn't want to encroach on Ryusei's legacy?
>>23709553Does that mean Kaito might become leader? Only one with a visible position for the emblem aside from Shion.
>>23709565Nah they all have places for emblems. Look at helmets of the other three. There's some sort of circle.
>>23705923Samurai Trooper is getting a gunpla, which makes it /m/-related.
>>23708307https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw45Q_mr0_MSo the full version's still pretty short a song.
>>23709568That looks a lot smaller, like they're missing some ornament, but you're probably right that the emblem spot doesn't matter.
>>23709450Kaito for now, just because I like his style and he is being voiced by Enoki Junya. My actual fav is Ryusei but it seems like he's not a permanent main 5 character
>>23709579>is getting a gunplano it doesn't
>>23708396>Jun grew up into an overweight NEET and sold White BlazeWhat the fuck
>>23709579The 30MF looks so good compared to the Tspark, how did Takara fuck up so bad.
>>23709955Making the proportions similar to the old spring-loaded figures, perhaps? Again, the 1988 Takara figures were imported by Playmates in 1995, and all of them are almost 1/1 in transfer except for Dais (who became purple because pink is for girls) and the White Inferno (which replaces the plain blue chest spot with one bearing a dragon pattern inside). The wide chest and tiny head is only supposed to match the proportions of the old figures.
>>23708346>Saint seiyaClinging to a glory from 40 years ago.Pathetic.
>>23710006What's the cling about? I prefer Ronin Warriors, but fact is the rest of the world cares for Knights of the Zodiac more than it.
>>23704764>>23705923they look mecha style... if you can't see the appeal you really don't belong here lol
>>23710022And one more interesting move: It appeared in Brave Saga: New Astaria. That Game Boy Color game filled to the brim with /m/, and they are the only human-sized characters among the mecha.
>>23710015iirc Transformer had some gear that was Saint-ish, and Psycho Clown had a mask that was half Seiya
>>23710006
>>23710031Masterforce is a little Saint Seiya-ish now that I think about it. Not quite enough yaoi bait to fit the profile though.
>>23710358Can this franchise not be gay for two minutes
>>23710363In this day and age?
If you told me last year that a Ronin Warriors sequel with painstakingly researched fujobait designs and a glossy kodomo toy commercial anime artstyle would have some of the best production values for a modern day anime in the current state of the industry, I would NOT believe you.Like sure it’s Sunrise, but this shit really came out of nowhere
https://youtu.be/k2jX9-pVJoU?si=YmnC9xaMqDkYcYu3Kaito teaser>>23710358Fuck off with the AI. Sure, I know you mean much with this, but this freak of nature is clearly AI.
>>23710006Ok Salvatore
>>23710503>Cool smart one is actually a dorkwon't get tired of this troupe. What's that he's watching at the end, a genderbend version of samurai troopers?
>>23710393Here's the thing though. I don't think the new characters' designs are meant to attract fujoshi, I think it's to attract children. Sure, it's not a show that's aimed at them, but that hasn't stopped kids from being attracted to bright colorful designs like you'd see in Inazuma Eleven or Digimon.And most of the fujo fans I've seen have said they dislike the designs because the boys aren't conventionally handsome like the originals.
>>23710520I think Kaito is watching some kind of stage play with idols? Like Love Live School Idol Musical
>>23710524so he's an idolfag too, can't wait for Gai to find out and bully him relentlessly over it
>>23709492>>23709493>>23709494>>23709497>>23709542>>23709553Say, considering how they would be leaderless after Ryusei hands over the armor to Shion one way or another, do you think they will truly live up to the Ronin Warriors name for official localizations? Otherwise, everyone could regain the armors' actual emblems by the time they get stronger over time (the Sanada clan emblem on the back of the Heat Armor around where the swords are sheathed, the lightning bolt symbol on the shoulders of the Flash Armor where the leader's mark was when Ryusei wore it, etc.). I could also assume they would add those emblems somewhere as 3D jewel stickers in a future 30MF release, whether or not they will release the classic armors that we're sure will be jewel stickers for the emblems instead of flat foil ones.
>>23704764>What did you like and dislike about the premiere?>likeI like that they're not skimping on certain mature themes and not being shy on violence. Also the use of famous 80s pop songs is very amusing>dislikeApart from the use of aforementioned 80s pop songs, the music in the show is very forgettable. Very in contrast to the original series that had a VERY outstanding soundtrack. Also, the OP and END songs are garbage.
>>23709865I don't think it literally means that Jun sold Byakuen. Like, how could he? You can't OPENLY own a tiger in Japan to be selling them. Especially if you're a hikkikomori. And whatsmore, Byakuen is a divine, immortal animal who had been Kaos' companion for over 1000 years who clearly possesses greater cognitive capabilities than ordinary tigers. He wouldn't allow himself to be actually sold because he wouldn't perceive himself to be property to be sold.
>>23705923>Magical armor = /m/Yes, always was. You never complained about posting Garo threads, why should this not be allowed? Hell, if magical armors weren't /m/ we'd never be able to have Sentai and Kamen Rider threads either since the bulk of those franchises shows are also magical armor themed.>>23710542>(the Sanada clan emblem on the back of the Heat Armor around where the swords are sheathedThat's not the Sanada clan, anon. The Sanada clan's banner is 6 mon in two rows of three. They have a similar thing in Japan like roman and catholic myth about one paying their way to the afterlife and so the Clan's banner is six coins so that they always have what they need to pay their way to the afterlife if they die in battle. The crest of Rekka is, if anything, just a warped version of the Takeda clan's banner. To which the Sanada clan, under Sanada Masayuki, Sanada Nobushige father (Ryo's ancestor) served during the Warring States period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG1jXUMJ4MI
>>23710824You can just say you have shit taste in music anon.
>>23710824I like the 2 songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyJcrcFgbjEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw45Q_mr0_M
>>23711143>You can just say you have shit taste in music anon.>it's shit taste to not like an uncatchy song and another song sung by a bunch of effeminate fagslol,k. The 80s songs they've been using in this show blow the shitty OP and END songs out of the water.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7MHXbsT3J4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Ng1BjGtwohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUfTDQru5yI
>>23711234I meant the soundtrack of the original show retard. That shit was bland as fuck I didn't even feel athing from it. And Japanese fans aren't fond of the constant insertion of 80s pop because it's cringe.
>>23711236>That shit was bland as fuck I didn't even feel athing from it.You can just say you have shit taste in music, anon.>And Japanese fans aren't fond of the constant insertion of 80s pop because it's cringe.I haven't seen them react positively or negatively to it so far. Best I saw was them pointing out the use of Sailor Fuku in it's lyrics to how it may symbolize Gai and his demon disguise with how it was forcibly removed.
>>23711267Like I said, bland as fuck. You can say you have shit taste retard. >I haven't seen them react positively or negatively to it so far.Lurk moar. Not my fault you can't read moonrunes.
https://x.com/i/status/2012087437552746803Hero Day post, just to remind some people.
>>23711236>And Japanese fans aren't fond of the constant insertion of 80s pop because it's cringe.Japan has always had the shittiest of taste, what else is new. Meanwhile they lap up current era idol band noise that sounds more like industrial than pop music in how inorganic and overprocessed it is. As expected of the audience that got addicted to isekai and begs for more of that slop.
>>23711459Why do you keep on infesting this site if you could just fuck off back to the Japanese Internet? You're not getting anything out of staying here, so why torture yourself?
>not NewtypeSo sad for Sunrise!
>>23704739>No dub EVER. Deal with it.How about you deal with this.QUAKEWITH FEAR
What was the song that Gai was singing in the first episode?
>>23712344Which one, the part where he massacres people together with the Demonic Braves, or when he hacked up the Weapon Gears off the poster boys?
>>23708393So apparently Kaito's grandma was voiced by Katsuki Masako, who voiced Kayura in the original series. If Kayura were to come back I'd figure she'd be recast anyway since it'd be odd for a kid to have the voice of a mature woman.
>>23712214>Ankoku-
>>23712859>Chohigiri!I just pre ordered this yesterday. I'm really looking forward to it.
>>23712859>>23712861If I had the funds, I would preorder all of them in a heartbeat. As a kid, I always dreamed of these kinds of toys, but now as an adult, I can't find myself putting 200+ on just one, and that's before S&H. But I'll always be envious of those who can buy them and can always dream.
>>23712887>If I had the funds, I would preorder all of them in a heartbeat.As would I. I nabbed Anubis for $135 from a chinese import site (they only have him and Rajura for sale), but they haven't notified me yet how much it'll cost in shipping so It'll probably round out to $200 at the LEAST, I suspect.
>>23712801>recast anywaySpeaking of recasting, Nasti's original seiyuu, Kaori Kusakabe got replaced by Sayori Kinoshita.https://twitter.com/samuraitroo_pr/status/2008554398386188522
>>23712910I heard about that. I wonder why. Scheduling conflicts or she just didn't feel like it? Or maybe her voice just doesn't fit what they thought Nasti would sound like in her mid 50s? Japs are usually pretty insistent on using the same voice actors for the same characters and it usually takes either a huge controversy or death to get them to recast.I do hope they'll get Kusao Takeshi to voice Ryo again if he appears again beyond Musashi's flashback.
>>23712904If there was one I would buy since these are limited afsik it would be Shuten or I would be a basic bitch and pick up Ryo as Wildfire or Inferno, but I can guess both would be close to $300 because lol Sentinel.
>>23712801>If Kayura were to come back, I'd figure she'd be recast anyway, since it'd be odd for a kid to have the voice of a mature woman.I get that this is a thing now to bring up recently, but unlike the Samurai Troopers, you do act their age, so you don't really question them in their teens; Kayura, despite being "psychologically 12," how she speaks and acts has her as old as the four demon generals even if they aren't that far apart in age. I feel their age as they were human is no issue and would be even less if she comes back in this, since even if you want to portray her as a kid, she would be an adult woman in human years by now.
>>23712917>>23712887If Shuten were to come back in Shinden, he would have to be recasted anyways since his original seiyuu: Kiyoyuki Yanada, passed away back in 2022.
>>23712922But Shuten is dead though; he passed on his armor to Kayura while he was purifying her at the cost of his life.
>>23712922I doubt he'll come back. Only way I'd see it happening is if any of the Masho have flashbacks of him. And it's not looking likely that any of the three of them even appearing so far. At best the only character featured in the series that knew him so far is Nasti (although we know Jun will be in too later on) but they could just do archive audio from the original series for him.
>>23705923Cardcaptor Sakura is the greatest anime ever made
>>23712929Not to mention we still don't know if any of the Masho and Kayura are still alive if the Demon Realm is invading again. If possible, they immediately failed to accomplish their mission as soon as they returned to the Demon Realm and got ambushed when they returned, leading to the massacre 35 years later. Otherwise, it's possible Kayura noticed young Gai and instilled the idea of defeating Ramaga when he's starting to rise in power and trained him in secret while they hide the entire time from the realm that forsook them as traitors for assisting in Arago's fall.
>>23712910Kaori Kusakabe is a singer first and foremost. Her time as Nasté is the only time she ever did any sort of acting, and thus, she's out of the question.
On a similar topic, the Inochi no Magatama that Natise and Jun wore is the same one in Youri Shinden? If so, how did it come back into their possession since the last time we saw it? The Jewel of Life faded away shortly after the boys finished playing baseball with it to celebrate finally defeating the Emperor.
>>23712947It could be a different magatama entirely, as it's now called the Jewel of Conquest. Whatever it is, it's the one choosing the new Samurai Troopers, and its name is a bad omen, hiding a new side for her. It could tie with how the Dark Warlords are no longer heard of after the series, possibly made by Kayura while she and the others were hiding.
>>23712952I do hope we get some more lore after the events of Message because the big thing that gets glossed over is Mia/Natise convinced the United Nations to not use conventional weapons against giant demon spirits in armor as a result of a power vacuum, like Shinjuku tried to do, else it would cause worldwide chaos.I really want to see the events in between because now Japan has demon barriers, and Natise is in cooperation with the government as head of the DST
>>23712939>Not to mention we still don't know if any of the Masho and Kayura are still alive if the Demon Realm is invading again. If possible, they immediately failed to accomplish their mission as soon as they returned to the Demon Realm and got ambushed when they returnedYeah. With this new series and the antagonists it's quite probably the biggest loose end. Until they address it, my figuring is that the Troopers armors being destroyed in the second OVA may have had an effect on the Demon Generals in the Yoja World and that might've killed their efforts and allowed Ramaga to rise to power. >Otherwise, it's possible Kayura noticed young Gai and instilled the idea of defeating Ramaga when he's starting to rise in power and trained him in secret while they hide the entire time from the realm that forsook them as traitors for assisting in Arago's fall.I think if that were the case Gai would've had a vastly different personality. I think his motivation is laid pretty clear in that they kept it as no secret that Ramaga intends to use him as a new vessel.>>23712947>the Inochi no Magatama that Natise and Jun wore is the same one in Youri Shinden?I don't think so. I think this new magatama is the "jewel of conquest" mentioned in the leak in >>23708396. But where that comes from is a mystery. It could be linked to Kayura. Maybe something she created (similar to how Kaos a had created the other one). >>23712952>Whatever it is, it's the one choosing the new Samurai TroopersI don't think it's "choosing" rather that it's showing who is eligible. It's basically enabling someone to do what Kaos could do by himself with his own powers as he had the ability to look into people's souls to determine their character. It's how he chose who to give the armors to in the first place a year before Arago's invasion in 88. I suspect this might could've been created by Kayura and sent it to earth to help the good guys on their end.
>>23712954>I do hope we get some more lore after the events of MessageI think that's likely. The show mentions a lot so far about how the last time there was a demon invasion from the Yoja World was 35 years ago, which was 1991, the same year that Message takes place in. And what we know from the leaks is that the original Troopers fought Ramaga and lost and Nasti had to make a deal with him to spare their lives for the jewel. Between that and her addressing the UN, that probably kickstarted the establishing of the DST.
>>23712963I knew this is bound to happen. I presume their new armors shattered as a result, which tied to my theory that the new armors in Shin Den are indeed the Message armors. We might need more credibility next week at the earliest if those details happen to end up in episode 3 like in the early screening.
You know, I've always wondered.What's with the hooks on the back of the ankles every armor has?
>>23713091A holdover from toy design. The original toys added handles on the ankles so that the spring-loaded arms on other figures can grab them and put their enemy in wrestling holds, out of place as they are.
>>23713106Okay sure, makes sense.As a kid I had all the good guy figures except for Cue after I saw one episode of the show (pre-toonami), but then I realized I couldn't remember which channel I saw that one episode of the show on. I was a real stupid kid. Didn't take care of the figures either.
More toy talk: Does anyone think the Special Color/Renewal Edition re-releases of the Armor Plus figures fix anything faulty from the figures, or are they just straight-up reissues of the originals, flaws and all?
https://youtu.be/7qoDWCYUrRc?si=UWxCpkqydyKLl8HRFor those crying about the limited release of some episodes, the official YouTube channel will release said episodes. Not sure if they last a week or two, but they are a good source of playing some of the song covers.
>>23713294Important news: These YouTube premieres will last a week. Once the week ends, the next episode will take its place.
>>23713294No English subs though.
>>23711267>Sailor Fuku in it's lyrics to how it may symbolize Gai and his demon disguise with how it was forcibly removedWHY IS THERE NO FANART OF CROSSDRESSING GAI GOING KYAAAAAAA AT AT BEING STRIPPED THOSE-WHO-HUNT-ELVES-STYLE YET????????THEWORSTTIMELINE
How many soldiers did they send?!
He can't be a bad guy.
...and that's how we make zombies. It will be on the test.
>>23713681How did they even digitize the tape did they have a random vcr laying around somewhere or was it Scifi scanner magic?
Is his dad Orochimaru?
>>23713693>did they have a random vcr laying around somewhere Why not? It's Japan after all. They still use fax machines. A VCR is not even that outlandish (I still have one connected) when compared to some other stuff. >It's taken until 2024, but Japan has finally said goodbye to floppy disks.>Up until last month, people were still asked to submit documents to the government using the outdated storage devices, with more than 1,000 regulations requiring their use. In 2021, Mr Kono had "declared war" on floppy disks. On Wednesday, almost three years later, he announced: "We have won the war on floppy disks!" Mr Kono has made it his goal to eliminate old technology since he was appointed to the job. He had earlier also said he would "get rid of the fax machine".>And it was not until 2019 that the country's last pager provider closed its service, with the final private subscriber explaining that it was the preferred method of communication for his elderly mother.>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx82407j1v3o
I wish they used a pun instead. An isekai transplant from the sengoku period would definitely use something horse-related.
Yeah, that's how you do it.
The LISTEN TO MY SONG! intro is half-cringe half-fabulous. Memorable for sure.
>>23713765Literally kills people while singing 80s j-pop is definitely a thing here.
>>23713026>I presume their new armors shattered as a result, which tied to my theory that the new armors in Shin Den are indeed the Message armors.I don't think they are in the slightest. There's only one person alive who can forge magical armor and she's unaccounted for at present. I think the new suits are magitech. It's clear that the DST has found means to counter the cancelling out of electronic devices that Demons create. Also, the new armor gears are clearly evocative of the Kaos gears. If they were the Suzunagi gears then I'd think there'd be design similarities but there isn't. I think the original troopers still have the Suzunagi gears.
>>23714181>>23713026I think they're tied to the original armors somehow, not the OVA ones, especially since Nasty didn't seem surprised Gai would be able to use the armor and seemed to want to hide the reason she knows that (probably him being a demon and the armors originally being made from Arago's armor).
>>23714347>>23714347>I think they're tied to the original armors somehowThat is another theory I've had. That they might be the energies of the original gears reforged by Kayura to prevent the return of Arago. She could've dispensed them to Earth somehow with the new jewel of conquest to Nasti so that she could find new bearers since Kayura probably can't make it there for some reason to do it herself like Kaos did with the original five troopers.>probably him being a demonGai is human. They clearly state this when they first examine him at the DST HQ. He's just been raised to think he's a demon. If he were a demon, he wouldn't be able to use armor gear as he wouldn't have a human virtue by nature of being a demon.
>>23708307Japan has forgotten how to make boy bands. Sad.
So, will the murderhobo MC be getting his own iteration of the Armor of Inferno or some modern equivalent as a midseason upgrade since the original article was destroyed at the end of the original series, or are they just gonna have the red armor the entire time?
>>23714459What made you think the Inferno Armor will forever be destroyed? Suzunagi attempted to summon it using her own original armors, so it may just be the original article most likely mixed with hints of the Black Inferno that was destroyed along with the white one.
>>23714475>New Inferno Armor made from the remains of the original White Inferno Armor and Black Inferno Armor... So clearly when the two combine it's gonna be a fancy-ass Silver armor instead of grey, right? I can dig it.
>>23714482Or, you know, be straight-up the original White Inferno with some pieces changed to black reflecting the duality of Gai as a half-demon, half-human being with a new destiny beyond a vessel for Ramaga. The red highlights could even be silver if you imagine it too hard.
>>23714459>So, will the murderhobo MC be getting his own iteration of the Armor of Inferno or some modern equivalent as a midseason upgrade since the original article was destroyedIt wasn't destroyed. It's physical form was broken but it cannot be destroyed as it's the manifestation of a different plane of existence. It's a borderline cosmic energy that takes a physical form based on the user's subconsciousness. the Kikotei being armors has only been a thing for 1000 years.>>23714550>be straight-up the original White Inferno with some pieces changed to black reflecting the duality of Gai as a half-demon, half-humanThat wouldn't work for two reasons. 1.)The Kikotei's white and black energies are naturally opposing forces. They cannot combine. 2.) If Gai was half demon, which we conclusively know he is not, he'd never be able to use the Kikotei since it can only be used by Humans. Arago trying to absorb the Kikotei is ultimately what lead to his death because Demons cannot possess it. That being said, it is possible for him to summon the Kikotei and given that it has no set physical form, it could use the Shakunetsu armor as a base and just be a supped up looking form of it just like how it was previously like that with the Rekka armor.Also, if Ryo does appear more in the show and has a more active part, I could easily imagine him having one bit "YAMEROOO!" moment since the events of the second OVA soured him and the other four original troopers on summoning it.
>>23714365>Gai is human. They clearly state this when they first examine him at the DST HQ. He's just been raised to think he's a demon. If he were a demon, he wouldn't be able to use armor gear as he wouldn't have a human virtue by nature of being a demon.What if he's a hybrid? He still has superhuman strength even when in the human body.
>>23714958>What if he's a hybrid?If he was then it'd probably show on the DST's instruments. But even then, I don't think humans and Demons can breed with eachother. Demons are not exactly living beings like Humans are. At least as far as we've seen. He's clearly just a human child who was lied to his whole life about what he is.>He still has superhuman strength even when in the human body.So did Mukala. He was even stronger on his own than Gai as he could compete against the original troopers when they had their armors equipped. Gai can't even beat Ryusei in the Senko armor.
If he's human or part human, he's could be Kayura's son or something if they are going to connect this show to the original.
>>23715358>MukalaTo be fair, he's the Magical Negro archetype. Gai seems like a regular Japanese teen in his human form. >I don't think humans and Demons can breed with eachotherJUST IMAGINE
>>23715369Leaks indicate that he's probably going to be adopted into Ryo's family. Not necessarily like a foster son, but just like->hey, you're with us nowAlso, I doubt they'd age her up to a physical adult. I don't know why, but it'd just seem too convenient that she spent 400 years as a 12 year old and then suddenly she ages up. I think Gai really is just some kid that Ramaga abducted between now and when he last appeared on earth in 91.>>23715377>To be fair, he's the Magical Negro archetypeHe don't seem like Uncle Remus.>JUST IMAGINEIf femme demons exist, I think I'd rather not given how Gai's demon illusion form looks,
>>23709579horse girls are /m/ then
>>23712933It really isn't.
>>23715437You really don't want to go down that route, anon.
>>23714181God these fugly armors are such dishwater.
>>23716069I like them. There's much more coordination/uniformity between them. They look more like they're an actual set but with enough details that make them unique between eachother. And they look closer to real japanese armor. Not realistic by any means, but much more leaning toward than the originals. I like them more than the original ones. I think they're the best looking armor gears next to the Demon Generals' armors.
>>23713151Just to remind people about this question. Sure, the Cho-Dan-Ka-Dou figures exist now, but anyone owns the Special Color Editions of the Armor Plus figures and if they ever fix anything from their original releases in the early 2010's?
BTW, if you want to listen to the insert songs (new arrangements), the links are here: >https://www.samurai-trooper.net/music/1st/songs-informationFreely available on Youtube Music.
Opinion: Since the show is a split cour with lots of stakes stacked on top, among the five main Samurai Troopers (not counting the side characters and especially Ryusei), who do you think will die at the end of the first cour, and do you think any more of them will die throughout the second cour?
>>23716660>the show is a split courWhatnow?
>>23716672It is. >https://myanimelist.net/anime/63047/Yoroi_Shin_Den_Samurai_Troopers_Part_2
>>23716660Second cour probably Gai or Shion.
More leaks. This time about Naste. I trust my friend's translation is accurate enough.
>>23716684Did your friend get Shinden's equivalent of the Armor of Inferno settei or was that not visualized in production yet?
>>23716689Not sure. So far, there has been no mention of the Inferno Armor that she could find. She thought the Emperor's armor referred to the emperor of the heaven realm. It's in the other leak someone else posted above.
>>23716684I think this lines up with my idea about her hiding that she knew Gai would be able to use the armor since he's the demon prince.>>23716250The armors looking more realistic makes them more underwhelming though. There are supposed to be powerful special artifacts, not random samurai gear.
>>23716684I actually hate leaks for original anime. Why would anybody enjoy spoiling the fun of others?
>>23716701"Don't reupload my art" the artist said
>>23716708'Don't pirate our anime' the production committee said.
>>23716701Why do you enjoy clicking on spoilers even when you know they'll spoil you?
>>23716713I didn't? I just commented in general, especially because few people are considerate enough to tick the Spoiler? box when posting spoiler images on 4chan.
>>23716684Naste age is 52 now and she was born on 1970, so its 2022 the series takes place; so does that mean when the original series aired on 1988 it took placed on 1987 then?
https://x.com/i/status/2013416189486342189On the next Samurai Troopers, a training arc for the newly minted Kaito and Musashi, and Yamato joins the DST. But how will they bring back the deserted Shion?
>>23716699>The armors looking more realistic makes them more underwhelming though.I do not agree. It makes them look more culturally appropriate given that they come from japan and were created by japanese people. Albeit supernatural japanese people, but still. >There are supposed to be powerful special artifacts, not random samurai gear.I don't see how those two things are contradictory. >I think this lines up with my idea about her hiding that she knew Gai would be able to use the armor since he's the demon prince.It doesn't though? Gai has a human virtue. Demons can't have those. Arago was the arch-demon of the Yoja world yet he was originally Human. There is no middle ground. You're a demon or you're not. >>23717032I'm willing to bet it's translation error or old documents before they decided it'd take place in 2026. The whole 35 years ago bit coincides too well with Message in that the whole world finally took notice of the Yoja world's antics and wanted to do something about it. It sets up the existence of the DST too well.
>>23717290Not to mention Nasti's only appearance in Message is her being accepted by the Japanese government, and it could also hint to how she even created the DST.
>>23717290Not a translation error. You can even see the date of birth on the document itself. Gai and Kaito's birthdates are also 2009 and 2008 respectively. Their ages are the same as the current info (14 and 15 years old).
>>23717295>Not to mention Nasti's only appearance in Message is her being accepted by the Japanese governmentShe was addressing the UN in Washington DC.>and it could also hint to how she even created the DST.That's what I was saying.
>>23717290>Gai has a human virtue. Demons can't have those.When has this been stated in canon? I don't remember.
>>23717302>When has this been stated in canon?I think it comes from the databooks and such. But as far as what is shown in the series, the Kikotei under Ryo's use being imbued with the powers and virtues of the five trooper armors also contributed to Arago's death. Demons don't have human virtues because they're not human. The closest any of them came that we've seen was Kenbukyo in that he preferred fighting fair. But that in of itself may be a stretch.
>>23717308Which data books? I've read most of them and none of that is mentioned. Although Gai IS human, I don't think we can conclude that demons can't have virtues. Nothing has been said about it. This is also the first time we're seeing youja who are confirmed to look and even act like humans to an extent (the Ten Braves).
>>23717324>Which data books? I've read most of them and none of that is mentionedDon't remember. If it isn't in them then I must've accidentally thought I got it from there and projected my own reasoning. I'll have to look through shit again.>I don't think we can conclude that demons can't have virtues. Nothing has been said about it.Not directly, but Arago having none from becoming a demon and being weakened by having them forced upon him is something I think cannot be handwaved.>This is also the first time we're seeing youja who are confirmed to look and even act like humans to an extent (the Ten Braves).I don't think they are Demons any more than the Masho were. Until they confirm otherwise, I assume they're Humans that Ramaga recruited just as Arago recruited Shuten, Anubis, Naaza and Rajura. Although why he would I admit is questionable. Arago recruiting who he did is explained because he needed them for the armor gears. If Demons had virtues and could use the armors, then I don't think he'd have bothered with the four of them. So yeah, while I thin the Ten Braves are human, I admit my thinking it is flawed. It'd be an odd choice for them to be in human guises like that whilst Gai was raised to think he was a demon. ... Unless it's a marketing thing.
>>23717336Well Nezu said that he, the Ten Braves, and Ramaga were demons. The translation is also correct, it's not a mistranslation or anything.
The only thing I can think of is that youja like the Ten Braves used to be human but became demons like Gai. But they also look completely different than Gai's demon form.
Did you all already have this Samurai Trooper knowledge prior to the sequel announcement? Feels like it's all randomly crawling out of the woodwork.
>>23717341Then my guess would be a marketing thing for the fujo crowd then. Because otherwise you'd think they'd look freaky like Gai's disguise (or reverse glamor? disguise is starting to not feel quite right in this case) or they'd just be covered up like Arago, Kenbukyo, Saranbo and Dala were.
>>23717348>Did you all already have this Samurai Trooper knowledge prior to the sequel announcement?I didn't. I rewatched the original series and saw the OVAs for the first time in preperation for the sequel. And since finishing the original and the OVAs I've just been hunting down information to better understand the setting and what influenced it. Which is kinda neat because there's a lot of stuff that gets lost in translation because it's all deeply ingrained in asian culture and thus doesn't get mentioned aloud in the show (being dub or sub) because the intended audience knows it from it being present in every day life over there.
>>23717341And his soul got absorbed by Gai, who could succeed Kayura in bringing peace to the Yoja Realm. Not to mention he might be the next of the Ancient One's clan in that case.
>>23717280Designated troll character. >>23717341Trash subs from Crunchy are often inaccurate. Maybe he's missing a comma here:>powerful demons such as Emperor Ramaga, and we of the Ten Warriors>>23717350You're overthinking. They can probably shape-shift at will.
>>23717487I'm referring to what he's saying in Japanese. It's accurate this time.
>>23717363>And his soul got absorbed by GaiWe don't know what that was. >who could succeed Kayura in bringing peace to the Yoja Realm. Not to mention he might be the next of the Ancient One's clan in that case.Kayura is long confirmed to be the last living kinsman of Kaos. Arago saw to that. I don't think that's what Gai is. And even if he was, I don't think it'd be his responsibility. As a Samurai Trooper, his is to the protection of the Earth. The armors of the Demon Generals is to the protection of the dead who reside in the Yoja world. Although perhaps Kaos might not have originally intended that, the themes behind them are there to imply it. Kayura only opted to stay in the Yoja world in the first place because she's long not been part of Earth. She's out of place there so she went to where she did know and could do the most good. Though it seems she was unsuccessful with Ramaga coming to power. Given that he was also able to somehow defeat the original troopers it's not surprising he could defeat the demon generals. Though I'd be willing to bet Kayura with Kaos' shakujo probably put up a close fight given she was already formidable without an armor gear and with the shakujo she'd probably be even greater. Which is why I'm hopeful that she and the other three are still alive and in hiding in the Yoja world.
>>23717549Okay, I'll trust you.
Episode 3 subs out.
https://x.com/i/status/2013627580684083475Today's song covers are THE BLUE HEARTS songs.
>>23710523>Here's the thing though. I don't think the new characters' designs are meant to attract fujoshi, I think it's to attract childrenConsidering the main character mercilessly and violently cut down people in the first episode I don't know if I agree with that assertion
>>23718028Plus their collab using 80s music. It's definitely not meant for children.
https://nyaa.si/view/2066772How was the third episode?
>>23718036>>>/a/285422082Less violent, I'm disappoint. Please give me more human sacks exploding into red juice.
>>23718028Like I mentioned in the post you replied to, colorful characters WILL attract children regardless of if the IP is aimed at them or not. Look at Demon Slayer which is way more violent. Or Squid Game which no child should be watching but ended up getting Roblox games made of all things.
>>23718076Kids were always attracted to stuff they weren't supposed to watch. You don't need colors for that.
Why do the villains seem like they have a better moral compass than the heroes? They hold funerals for their dead friends while Gai and his team don't have any urgency to save people who are being attacked by zombies.
>>23718081Fighting zombies is far more dangerous than holding funerals. They are rookies - they can't just jump into action like seasoned soldiers.
I know they went out of the way to make the fake troopers assholes but I still feel like Gai just murdering them outright should be treated as a bigger deal.
>>23718238They tried to kill Musashi and other witnesses, if anything everybody should be glad they only have one dog that needs to be leashed and closely monitored, not an entire pack.
>>23718305This, Gai is like Inuyasha, dangerous if left alone, but is worthwhile if you keep him tamed. He even has a collar just like he did to keep him in line. And I bet this is what Sunrise was going for: a pretty bad boy for the lead that has a shock collar for the purpose of domestication.
>>23718305>They tried to kill Musashi and other witnesses,I'm aware but it was not done out of the goodness of his heart and it's still pretty psychotic to just shrug it off
>>23718334I don't think putting a shock collar on Gai is just shrugging it off, not to mention Ryusei handled him while fighting with an Armored-Gear. Also, according to the leaks, they'll need all the help they can get right now.
>>23718348You mean the shock collar he clearly isn't wearing anymore
>>23718351That just means he knows if he starts killing randomly, it means it's coming back on. Besides, have we forgotten Shuten from the OG wasn't easily forgiven when he became a monk following the path of Kaos.
>>23718353>That just means he knows if he starts killing randomly, it means it's coming back on.I'm not sure you understand what the point of such a collar would be. It's only effective as a preventative measure when they already have him in custody. Not after the fact when you already taught him how to use super armor. >Besides, have we forgotten Shuten from the OG wasn't easily forgiven when he became a monk following the path of Kaos.Have you forgotten he wasn't the main character and fucking died.
>>23718353I think you're missing the point a bit. It's not a question of redemption or potential for it, it's a matter that everyone else is being both recklessly irresponsible or psychotically casual
>>23718357As I said, they can't pick and choose who can use the armor gear, and we still are too early to find out of Gai will have any regrets or develop from murder hobo to a Samrai Tropper, not to mention we don't know what contingency plans they have if Gai happens to turn on everyone which so far he has yet to do. >Have you forgotten he wasn't the main character and fucking died.No, but my point is they want someone who is the complete opposite of Ryo as the main character, while still having a fiery personality to match his armor of Wildfire. Only time will tell how this will play out regarding if he continues to be a Samurai Trooper.
>>23718361We don't know why they are taking it lightly, but as I said, based on the leaks, they can't be picky on who is capable of using the armor. We just have to wait and see if any of this gets brought up before the first cour is over.
>>23718325Inuyasha at his worse came off as less of a dick than Gai.
>>23718369Didn't he kill people in the early episodes? Also, Gai being an asshole is more of him being the demon emperor's son, but afak we know very little about him so far.
>>23718364>>23718362Just because they can't be picky doesn't mean they can't show more resignation. Their hands may be tied but that's no reason to throw them up.
>>23718348What if you get hit in the face does the armor protect you like a force field?I vaguely remember in the first show Ryo was able to stand in a volcano with the armor on.
>>23718085And yet, that's exactly what they did. They took out the giant centipede easily.
>>23718405>Just because they can't be picky doesn't mean they can't show more resignation. Who's to say they aren't? So far, Gai hasn't done anything extreme since being part of the team, and until we get to that part, the best they could do is put him on a short leash. >>23718410>I vaguely remember in the first show Ryo was able to stand in a volcano with the armor on.He didn't just stand in it; the early episodes have him lying down face-first in a volcano. I think the armor's natural protect its user from any of the elements it's based off such as Ryu with fire.
>>23718334Don't let the other posters here gaslight you. Most Japanese fans have the same opinions as you. They think Gai is being taken too lightly by the other characters and don't really like him being the new fire trooper. It honestly just comes down to lazy writing.
>>23718415You got those 2chan posts about Japan fans, I'm sure, right?
>>23718390 Considering how much more level headed the Ten Braves are compared to Gai, I think it's more because he's young and immature. Gai was practically raised by them, Nezu was his teacher/caretaker and speaks in an extremely polite manner. Gai's just a little shit
>>23718417Chan brainrot got to you mate. I'm talking about X, YouTube, Yahoo Japan, Nico Nico, etc. Places where the majority of Samurai Troopers fans normally gather
>>23718418Oh, I have no doubt he isn't a little shit, and that comes off as him being the demon prince. I just feel it's too soon to say that he won't change or he'll be removed as a Tropper. Maybe nothing will change, and he'll be a worse successor to Ryo, but for now, I'm just going to wait and see once the first half is finished.
>>23718424Meant for >>23718420
>>23718414>Who's to say they aren't?Anyone with observational skills. >So far, Gai hasn't done anything extreme since being part of the team, >He only murdered people once!Again, I feel like you're not understanding something very simple and I don't know how I can make it any clearer.
>>23718415Any character with Gai's introduction would be hard to like.I don't think the other characters are taking him lightly, though. The other Ronin (rightly) don't trust or dislike him.
>>23718435>>23718437What do you want them to do then? Just lock him up and wait for someone else to show up and be chosen to wield the armor? I'm not condoning him murdering people, and I feel there will be some consequences later on, but right now, if the original Samrai Troppers can't beat Ramaga, which I feel is bullshit if true, they have to trust the jewel in choosing who is worthy of the armor, even if it's an unlikeable demon punk like Gai.
>>23718465>What do you want them to do then?Not write a show were the MC is so difficult to like or at the very least empathize with. See you're trying to explain this away with the show in show logic. The problem is more meta. It's the writing. It's the character. It's the actual show. What the show is doing and what is it is saying aren't lining up. They explain it as him being raised like a demon, because of the jewel, because of this and that but real issue is that these things are only this way because they wrote them to be such. All you're doing is pointing out the problems people are criticizing. We saw every justification they made, but as a viewer it's not engaging.
>>23718481Spot on. This is most of the problems the fans who dislike Gai have. It's not really about him, it's about how the circumstances of the show make him and the other characters act. The only ones to call Gai out are Kaito and Yamato, but they're very obviously going to accept him in the end. Not because Gai felt guilty over the things he did, but because he's "not so bad after all". He was the coolest guy!
>>23718492It's kind of hard to get a sense of the tone the show is going for
So what's up with the music. I mean I'm not gonna complain about some Linda Linda but where are we going with this? They're not pulling a macross looks like.
>>23718506>They're not pulling a macross looks like.if you can name something with more 80s music let me know
>>23718511Rolling Girls immediately springs to mind
>>23718465>I feel there will be some consequences later onSee, I don't understand why you'd believe that precisely because of what happened in this episode. Before this it might've been a reasonable expectation. But they've already showed how they're treating it: They're not. If there was a time to do it, it was now. They didn't. Worse, they His Culture'd it with nonsensical moral relativism that the others accepted immediately. If the writers won't take it seriously why should I take the show seriously? It was a flawed premise from the start that would be bad enough for a supporting character. For the main protagonist though? Catastrophic.
Ryo and Gai are like night and day.
I forgot when was Matt Hill's birthday was for a bit, but the fact the recent Shin Den episode came up a day after his birthday is just wild. Well, I mean he was the voice of Ryo before he voiced Double D and Kira, and the semi-full reveal that Ryo was the one who saved Musashi and Yamato in the mountainside is just enough of a surprise.Now back to reality, episode 3 is supposedly the cut-off part from the early screening, correct? We now saw all five Ronins (Shion fighting the demons all on his own using a handmade armor), but not all details from what was leaked were shown off in all three, meaning these were word of mouth from the staff in the early screening. Now we're anxious on what will happen next besides the fact that Shion will gain his actual armor probably next episode.
>>23718554>I mean he was the voice of Ryo before he voiced Double DHill didn't voice Edd, he voiced Ed. One D. Buttered toast!
>>23718636I get what you mean, but I hate when people reply to my post, only to not answer my question.And by the way, HAS ANYONE GOT THE SPECIAL COLOR ARMOR PLUS FIGURES!? I asked fucking everyone in this thread and /toy/, but nobody fucking answered my question!
>>23718554>Now back to reality, episode 3 is supposedly the cut-off part from the early screening, correct?Yes.>We now saw all five Ronins (Shion fighting the demons all on his own using a handmade armor), but not all details from what was leaked were shown off in all threeCorrect. There was information leaked long before the first three episodes were screened.>but not all details from what was leaked were shown off in all threeCorrect. >meaning these were word of mouth from the staff in the early screening.No. You can literally see leaked prodiction charts posted, and translated, in this very thread.>Now we're anxious on what will happen next besides the fact that Shion will gain his actual armor probably next episode.Not for that. My concerns still lie in the explanation on how Ramaga came to be and how he beat the original Troopers and I want to learn of the fates of Kayura and the three Demon Generals.>>23718660>And by the way, HAS ANYONE GOT THE SPECIAL COLOR ARMOR PLUS FIGURES!?I don't know anything about that.
>>23718481Yeah I'm really trying to like the character but the weird way the show itself is justifying his behavior is off-putting and keeps pulling me out.I don't even mind edgy MCs. It's the way everyone is treating him with kids gloves as if he's NOT edgy. And it's weird how quickly the other guys adapted to>It's actually normal to murder sentient lifeforms in his culture! It's fine!I would really rather they just play into him being scary and dangerous, but a necessary risk. It already feels like they want the viewer to move past it at episode 3.
>>23718411After days of training in the virtual reality.>>23718415>Most Japanese fans have the same opinions as you>invoking Japan's shitty taste and opinions of all thingsThis is beyond desperate. I'm worried for your sanity.
This is your main character for the foreseeable future /m/
>>23718911I'm underwhelmed.
So I've been brainstorming for a while in regards to when we get the classic Ronin Warriors stuff in 30MF, which is naturally bound to happen because of the sequel's best toys coming from that line. Considering the various DLRO creatures and the Customize Structure stuff including a few creatures here and there, wouldn't it hurt to release White Blaze in that line, considering... whatever the hell the original toy was? While they could go the lazy route and make him a brick, they made some animalistic kits with full articulation, which can lead to a special treatment for a tiger that matches a 30ML humanoid scale. Bonus points if they release him with the White Inferno Armor and he gets to carry the Soul Swords of Fervor just like in the show.
>>23718846>After days of training in the virtual reality.It was after a single half assed gesture at the tail end of the fight and the whole "TRAINING IN VR" angle was just a cheap bullshit tactic to try and speed rush a sense of comradery. This show is ass. Get a sense of taste you faggot.
>>23718846>>invoking Japan's shitty taste and opinions of all thingsThis show isn't even getting fully localized, why wouldn't he? Their the target demo.
>>23719180nta but there is no way in hell the sequel to Ronin Warriors won't eventually get localized, just not getting a simulcast with a dub a few days later based on the CR release.
>>23719185I think you overestimate how popular the show actually was
>>23718911Not bad if he goes through a decent redemption arc
The treatment of Gai is strange to me because I've seen so many series where even obviously well meaning heroes with no criminal record are treated with hostility and caution because they are seen as dangerous due to their power.But Gai has a double digit murder count minimum (resulting in a pile of bodies that have barely had time to rot), and they were already palling around with him and taking off the shock collar in a couple days, before they even did the month of training In VR.It's like they really want the character to have an intense backstory but don't want to write around the consequences. Which kind of makes his backstory seem incidental, and like I'm being told not to worry too much about it.
>>23719191It's just a cute character quirk.
Man I know there's a market for the cute helpless guy in modern ensemble casts like this, but Musashi not even getting a cool debut for his armor, and instead getting bullied by a Gai who was apparently holding back is just embarrassing.It doesn't help that he has an uphill battle ahead of him, with the armor that had the most situational usefulness in the original series.
>>23719187It has a big enough cult following in the west, and it was basically male Sailor Moon in a region that never got Saint Saiya Prophecy. It had tons of reruns back during the peak of anime in the west and aired side by side with Gundam Wing at the height of its popularity.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QVLNPBeFEg
>>23719203He's the definition of a cuck. Namida no Request should be HIS signature song.
>>23719203It's even worse because In the original show when the fire armor and water armor first clash, it's used to show how powerful the armor is and they blow a huge crater in a mountain when they clash.In this version it was just a one sided schoolyard bullying.
>>23719203>>23719206Yeah, Musashi is no Cye/Shin, who, in the OVA, wanted not to fight what he felt was an endless fight, would still throw hands in a fit of frustration and hates being called a coward, which revealed his self-contradiction.
>>23719211It's weird because it wants to seem like the show is more serious with the violence but the fact that it's so bright full of singing and we can evidently waste time fucking around in a vr high school really makes things feel weak but our MC is a murderer
>>23719225Yeah the tone shifted fast. Just two episodes ago we were being told that this is a cruel world where even human samurai troopers can be cold, opportunistic murderers, as shown with Musashi's previous team.Now we're getting wacky highschool days montages and learning its culturally insensitive to tease Gai for murdering people.
>>23719204Yep Toonami's how I saw it back in the day. Not that I remember much of what actually happened but yep.
>>23719250>Now we're getting wacky highschool days montages and learning its culturally insensitive to tease Gai for murdering people.And this ontop of watching the badguys have silly funerals where they clearly show that demons people understand loss so should have some idea of why murder might be bad!
>>23718481>Not write a show were the MC is so difficult to likeIt's a (You) problem lol. Not everything has to cater to your abysmal taste - don't like, don't watch. I like Gai just fine - whatever faults there are with him as the MC on the writing level have no relation to your personal hung-ups about the character. I don't even see the point of you broadcasting your embarrassing takes on decorum in anime character writing unless you're trolling? >>23718492>fans who dislike Gai >pluralThat other person you keep on having conversations with in your head is not real.
Alright, who's this Gai simp that keeps dick riding a fictional teenaged character.
>>23718511Concrete Revolutio, though it has plenty of older songs too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wsfOGwz6P4It flopped in Japan.>>23718526This one flopped too. See the pattern?>>23719190He doesn't need one.
>>23719294What you don't see could fill an I Spy book.
>>23719250It's Fujita as director, he loves to emotionally bait then go "Gotcha"
>>23719294I don't hate Gai, I'm fans of characters who are worse people than him. It's how his environment reacts to him that I find off-putting.
>>23719275Are they even demons? Weren't they just people being corrupted and manipulated by Arago in the original? They made a distinction that they only Gai had an actual demon form before he was transformed.
>>23719302An average yume I would guess.
>>23719329Yeah, I'd be down for a bastard lead character but you need to stick to it.
>>23719310>He doesn't need one.In this episode, Ryusei literally gets everyone to back off by proposing the idea that he could attone for his actions in the future.
>>23719191Oh please. Were you raging as hard when Dragon Ball genociders like Vegeta got absolved of their sins while doing fuck all to earn forgiveness?>>23719206>cuckWords have no meaning anymore. Where is the cuckoldry you're thinking of? He's never shown any romantic interest in anyone. >>23719225>waste time fucking around in a high school>but our MC is a murdererI miss Code Geass like you wouldn't believe it. >>23719250Sunrise classics.
>>23719341A bastard asshole MC is more fun when they're dyed in the wool and unrepentant, like Saotome Mondo or Takeda Akane
>>23719348Vegeta was an antagonist made antihero who didn't face attornment until... Well, longer than this show's intended run time.He was literally making life worse for everyone else as late as the Cell and early Buu arcs. Bad example to compare the jumpstart lead to.
>>23719275I think you might be intellectually challenged actually. WHY should an invading army modelled after Japan of old show mercy to civilians? WHY would they share the values and morals of the present Japan? Them having imported some 80s popculture is equivalent to Bin Laden's HDD being stuffed with anime and vidya - it didn't change their mentality and value system in the slightest.
>>23719348I don't think most people considered Vegeta "absolved of his sins" until he killed himself...
>>23719362If that's the logic I feel like Ryusei would have said>He's from a replica of the culture that produced the rape of nanking.Not>He got learned wrong cause he's a Demon.
>>23719362>WHY should an invading army modelled after Japan of old show mercy to civilians?I didn't say they should show mercy. I said they understood the concept of loss. The defense of Gai was that he didn't know better. The demons know better but chose to attack. He knows wrong and right.
>>23719368As if Ryuusei was an expert on the demon society.
>>23719363I don't think Dragon Ball ever wanted to give the impression that Vegeta and the others were actually friends. At least during Freeza. Cell was a whole mess of bullshit but that's a different argument for a different thread.>>23719376Which is all the more reason the argument doesn't work.
>>23719376That kinda enhances my point, wouldn't he want to compare it to a culture he knows?
>>23719377I'm pretty sure both Krillin and Tien still speak as if they don't like or trust Vegeta all the way into Super.
>>23719381No way a Japanese character in a mentorship role would shit on the Japanese history and label figures like Oda Nobunaga or Toyotomi Hideyoshi vile savages lol Handwaving everything with 'demons be that way' is easier, more palatable and won't get you complaints from the parents.
I want to hear Naoko Kawai songs next.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiJCp9nqZP8>>23719345My judgement > Ryuusei's judgement
The turning point everyone would want to see is the Samurai Troopers singing Samurai Heart in the final battle, whoever it would be, empowering the Kikoutei far more than what the original show can do (like how Symphogear has songs power the gears in full). If anyone is willing to see that day, good for you, but it's probably a pipe dream.
>>23719513I'd be more satisfied if they used this track of Stardust Eyes, actually. But for like when the OG troopers arrive and bail the new guys out before the final battle or something. But even then I don't think that'll happen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WMb072q9JE
Seems like it's getting more and better art by the day,not a huge hit but not bad I guess.
>>23719851The originals assisting the new guard is a deathwish. They will get killed. I'd rather they just train the new team and not get themselves involved.
>>23720032I hate seqeuls>Congratulations heroes! You saved the world and had a triumphant happy ending.>Oh wait we need to undo all this so some new faggots decades later can pretend they're half as cool as you were so you need to eat shit
>>23720064>>Congratulations heroes! You saved the world and had a triumphant happy ending.>>Oh wait we need to undo all this so some new faggots decades later can pretend they're half as cool as you were so you need to eat shitThe irony. Every minute on this board must be absolute torture for you.
https://x.com/i/status/2014262639799726354On the next Samurai Troopers, the resigned mechanic returns as a rogue agent.
>>23720120Green on Green violence.
>>23708396>woman boss is a traitor, again.
>>23720064It doesn't bother me if it's a new villain at least (unlike something like Chrono Cross that retcons the previous heroes into messing up and creating the current troubles - well, I could even take something like this if the story is going for a more cynical direction, but not if you're just pushing another new set of idealized young heroes). The alternative is going with only a single important event ever happening in the world.
Too on the nose, but I'm loving it.
>>23710834>GaroGaro is toku
Does anybody here even listen to Japanese songs from the 80s? Or is there absolutely no overlap between /m/ and /mu/? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdksI3--M_g
>>23720164It became multimedia Ishinomori-style after three live-action seasons, gaining an anime afterwards before returning to live-action at some point.
>>23720185I looked up and like the song the 2 of them sung in the last episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaHPogN-iNc
Wait, air? I thought dark blue was space. Like they found him in outer orbit at one point.
>>23720437It was both. The original could be weird like that. Like Sage's armor was simultaneously Light and Lightning, or one or the other depending on what was happening.
>>23720437Space isn't exactly an element as ancient cultures had no real perception of space as we know it. The rough transaltion of "Tenku" is "the heavens" which is typically what is best interpreted by ancient cultures as space. Or just anything that's literally "up there" as they thought the sky was unending. So yes, Toma and now Kaito's armors are/were always of the air. Their both using bow and arrow should also be a kind of dead giveaway there. >>23720440 also this. East asian cultures have been very loose in what they consider to be elements compared to the west's typical hard-locked 4-element pattern. So Seiji and Ryusei/Shion's armors being light/lightning themed in a team of elemental themed armors isn't that far out in this case.
>>23720128>Shion can make his own armor gear>their bracelets have the same kanji-binary as the VR sequence didI'm leaning a little more on that the new armor gears may actually be artificial. >>23720131>woman boss is a traitor, again.Buying time so that the good guys recover is not being a traitor. It's being the big sister she's always been, taking care of her little brothers.
>>23720320I recommend this radio:>https://www.j1fm.tokyo/player/j1gold
>>23712920>I would be a basic bitch and pick up Ryo as Wildfire or Infernoit's me. I am double the basic bitch, since I own both Wildfire and Inferno. Though in my defense, I ordered the Inferno Armor figure through my FLCS after I missed the first offering for the Wildfire figure.>>23712904shit, I didn't even know the Four Generals got figures. I might have to grab one of them.
>>23721732I also ordered some of the sentinels through my local comic shop to complete the set, since I missed the timing on my usual online shops.I thought it was a shot in the dark because I had never ordered something that way, but it worked out.
>>23720765>I'm leaning a little more on that the new armor gears may actually be artificial.They gotta be, it would be weird if they are still pieces of a villain they aren't even currently fighting against.
>>23721763I wonder why Earth and Water's weapons changed so drastically when the others are pretty much the same.
>>23721772The shield looks so goofy but maybe it's going for a surfboard vibe.
>>23721914They clearly show him surfing in the intro
>>23721732>shit, I didn't even know the Four Generals got figures.Yeah. Anubis just got released a month or two ago. >>23721766Well the prevailing theories were that they were either the Kaos armor gears or the Suzunagi armor gears completely reforged. But that honestly doesn't really work very well because Suzunagi had passed on and is no longer a vengeful ghost and the only living person who can forge magic armor lives in a different plane of existence. And also with Ramaga having risen to power she may or may not be alive anymore.>>23721914The Earth armors have always been polearm weapons to some degree so at least there's still come consistency there. But with Suiren's that makes 3 of the armors sword users so that is a bit of a choice.
>>23721763This newspaper article looks so good in comparison. Really does pander to 80's kids quite a lot.>>23722111I mean, remind me about this Philippine semi-toku, Bagani. Does tend to go a bit like Samurai Troopers (not to mention I can't even remember if the Philippines aired that anime between the 90's and 2010's), and the warrior of water used a shield (the true warrior gains an upgraded and more elaborate shield that perfectly matches everyone's aesthetics, in comparison to a giant clamshell) and a short sword just like the Suiren Armor here.
I just wish they didn't use CG for armour.
So, if you are still talking...>>23723033