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Post your impressions/discussions on the teaser.

i'm cumming

>>23710113
>directed by Mamoru Oshii
where the FUCK is Takahashi?

>>23710113
Sounds like Kenji Kawai's doing the music?

Last VOTOMS thing I watched was Mellowlink and that was a couple years ago now. I really need to watch everything else.

what are you guys hoping to see? I like Chirico but it'd probably be better off without him around

>>23710164
Hozumi Goda is pushing 70 now. Alone Again came out 15 years ago.

>>23710113
Holy fucking shit I just came.

>>23710134
Probably resting and enjoying some good food in peace away from production deadlines, the man is 83.

>>23710134
fucking your mom

>>23710140
>two Kenji Kawai anime in one year
Blessed timeline.

>>23710164
>what are you guys hoping to see
new Okawara original AT

>>23710164
I want Chirico.
They need to anime God's child arc.

>>23710113
>WW3 is inminent
>New VOTOMS
Nice timing

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>>23710198
And instead of mechs we're getting sonic weapons that make you shit your pants and puke blood.

Just saw the twatter post and uh....

Holy shit?

>>23710167
Yeah but Chirico has a gruff older sounding voice anyway so it really doesn't matter. He sounded fine in his more recent SRW appearances.

>>23710113
What is with Bandai and their obsession with witches? Is this some kind of "every year until you like it" thing?

Chirico:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEuga3ZAN8

>>23710248
It's the thematic contrast between military sci-fi and magic and superstition

>>23710251
Don't engage with patternfags.

I expect yet another lesson in just how painfully long and drawn out the decline of a franchise can be.

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>>23710113
Can't believe we are actually getting a new VOTOMS anime in this gay fuckass timeline we are currently living in, AND it's being directed by the kinomeister himself, Oshii. I don't give a fuck about anything else, I just gotta survive long enough to watch this.

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Patlabor, GitS, and now Votoms. Might be a good year for mecha.
The Grey Witch is a weird choice what with it being the title of the first Lodoss Wars novel, somebody at Sunrise must be really into witches. It's a cute coincidence as Izubuchi was the illustrator for all the early Lodoss stuff and he's directing Patlabor EZY.
Super cerebral AT with lots of dense dialogue and literary references could be fun anyway.

Impossible to care considering how every VOTOMS entry outside the original series is dogshit

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>new remake of an /m/ classic with a German subtitle hated by diehard oldschool fanboys

>CG

>>23710323
The mechs were bound to be CG, but I'm praying mostly everything else is handrawn

>>23710324
I wonder, is this even a remake or a new story? If anything, to promote this, we need a Figure-rise Fyana to go with the Brutishdog. Or heck, GIVE US CHIRICO! HE COOL!

>>23710328
Chirico a shit. He killed my family.

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I only watched the main series, are the OVA worth?
Also the main series was largely influenced by sci-fi movies of that time, which one is this new one be inspired by? Avatar?

>>23710305
try again when the character designs are revealed

>>23710113
Is this going to be a movie? OVA?

>>23710113
>VOTOMS:WITCH FROM MERCURY
/u/ chads eating gud

>>23710347
Anti-gaijin sentiment hopefully.

What do you think of Oshii handling this? I've heard his modern stuff has been pretty washed

>>23710384
>I've heard his modern stuff has been pretty washed
to be fair, he only has one directing credits in the last 16 years and it was an attempt at creating a slapstick comedy
his own other credits are a little bit of script writing and story boarding/composition

>>23710384
Oshii hasn't directed anything anime related go know whether he's washed or not besides Vlad Love which was well-directed but kind of had an esoteric plot.

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>>23710113
>mechs driving across a forest floor like it's mirror sheen flat
The animators are delivering according to their pay grade, I see.

>>23710113
Why do they keep bringing back based old anime and take a shit all over them with cgi garbage. They did the same shit to Hokuto no Ken.

>>23710396
yeah? isnt that just how AT's move on all terrain?

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>>23710384
>I've heard
don't.

>>23710407
In the cartoon, it was them porting over the animation trick used to make the Doms slide, I think.

But Doms use literal hover jets while VOTOMS move on wheels with ground contact, like roller skates. While their movement being highly stylized is sensible enough in cell animation, it really falls flat in photo realistic 3D animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPegTk-w7Bw

>>23710389
>was well-directed but kind of had an esoteric plot
That's just Oshii.

>>23710399
They've only shown CG mecha so far, and the mecha have been CG in Votoms since Pailsen Files in 2006 (with the one exception of Case;Irvine). The Hokuto no Ken shit looks way worse than these CG Scopedogs too.

It’s truly over for mechanical 2D animation isn’t it…

>complaining about CG
>for Votoms of all things
Do these tourists just watch the OG and pretend they are fans?

>>23710399
At least the CG here isn't animated like Star Fox SNES. There isn't any reason to have that low FPS garbage that is everywhere nowadays.

For me it’s armor hunter merolink

>>23710384
Oshii's works are carried by beautiful hand-drawn animation.

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>>23710501
Witch From Mercury saved mecha! Yay! Tanuki!

Finally something /m/ which is not gay.

If it doesn't have the classic AT skating sound effects then it will be junk

>>23710600
>If it doesn't have the classic AT skating sound effects then it will be junk
>If it does then you'll just call it meaningless nostalgia wank
There's no winning with you people.

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Please don't suck.

I liked the cgi animation Palisen files and the sequels...

>>23710113
Holy shit those comments
>ボトムズ以外のなにかに仕上がってそう
>It looks like it will turn out to be something other than Votoms.

>AT戦は最初の5分だけで、あとはただただキリコがロッチナに追い立てられながら立ち食いそば屋でチンピラを折檻する話かもしれない・・・
>The AT battle will only last the first 5 minutes, and the rest of the story will be about Kiriko being chased by Rottina and punishing some thugs at a soba restaurant...

>Q:これはボトムズ?
>A:多分そう、部分的にそう
>Q: Is this Votoms?
>A: Maybe, partially.

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>>23710633
>みんな期待と不安が半々だと思う。ボトムズと呼べるものが完成するのか、ボトムズぽぃ何かになるのか…
I think everyone is half excited and half worried. Will they be able to complete something that can be called Votoms, or will it end up being something Votoms-like?

>絶対犬と魚眼構図が出る。間違いないよ
There will definitely be a dog and a fisheye shot.

>>23710633
>>23710635
This sounds like the exact same shit you'd read here, is it really that special to you that the japanese have similar opinions?

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>>23710198
Made me look but Nice try

I'm very excited
I love VOTOMS but not that much that i'm overly worried about it being "ruined", just glad we get something new

>>23710248
Good. Total witch love. Witchbros we eating good

>>23710113
Anime means a game is possible means a PS2 gameplay feel new VOTOMS game is possible but I'm not getting delusional because I remember how it was with anime to game in Synduality

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>Heavy Gear is back
>and now VOTOMS is back

>>23710672
i'm not ever touching the synduality game but only because it's pvp, are the mechanics actually bad?

>>23710696
Didn't touch it either but reading into it and seeing the gameplay made me realize that having mecha isn't enough to save a predatory kusoge

>>23710113
Will we finally learn why the bubbles were green and the significance of them being green?

>>23710483
>Do these tourists just watch the OG and pretend they are fans?
That describes all of /m/ in a nutshell actually.

>>23710347
For the most part, yeah.
Big Battle is like a really good episode of the original series extended to 45 minutes.
Roots of Ambition covers Chirico joining the Red Shoulders and sets up Pailsen. Solid watch.
The Last Red Shoulder is a lot of fun, cool action and an incredible AT design in the Bloodsucker.
Shining Heresy is largely okay until the last episode (or two, I forget when Chirico makes his move) where it gets much more exciting. The overall idea for the plot is also pretty interesting.
I skipped Phantom Arc on the recommendation of the friend who convinced me to watch VOTOMS. The last time I ignored his advice to skip something I ended up watching Macross II, so I'm willing to trust him when he says it's trash.
Alone Again is okay, it has some solid moments but overall it didn't really grab me.
I really enjoyed Case;Irvine, the main crux of it is one solid arena fight using some fighting styles that don't come up anywhere else in the franchise.
I thought Finder was boring, but I still respect it as an experiment for the different kinds of stories that can be told within the setting.

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>>23710837
>I skipped Phantom Arc

It basically undoes everything from the TV show and Shining Heresy but Chirico walks away from it all with another Wiseman baby to raise.

>>23710850
>don't talk to me or my adopted son ever again

>>23710850
Blonde kid looks like he's seen some heavy shit.

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Phantom Arc goes back to Kummen just to show us Pol Pot was in fact a terrible leader.

>>23710134
He's retired.

>>23710837
I liked Phantom Arc but it's because I really liked Chirico's friends enough to watch what's essentially a play-by-play revisit of each location of the show as well as some of the plotlines. There's still some interesting plot or character moments you'd miss by skipping it, and there's a text-only continuation of it where you deal with whatever's happening here: >>23710850
Mellowlink was very nice but I haven't seen either of the Case ones

>>23710944
No. He directed The Fable last year.

>>23710960
Phantom arc was alright but leaned a bit too hard on the 'member berries, especially at the end where wiseman brings chirco to his core and then chirco just kills him in the exact same way with the exact same reaction, like holy shit how can he be this retarded

>>23710248
It's just trend chasing. Witches are currently "in" for whatever reason. Look at some of the most popular manga currently running: Witchriv, Ichi the Witch, Witch Watch, etc. The kids want witches, and Bandai being a business, by god is going to give them witches.

Witches ain't shit

>>23710113
>Oshii's VOTOMS
holy fuck

>>23711030
It did, but the remberberries worked well on me because I really did like the supporting cast and it somehow felt like it's been so long since we saw our beloved trio (24 years since Big Battle's release and then Phantom Arc), call it cheap but it worked on me, although it's not great if the main highlight of a show or movie consists of it pointing to a prior and better show (I'm fucking looking at you Gcucks). It was neat to see how everyone was doing, with us getting some peaceful and happy closure with the desert lady as well.
I did think that last bit was really really fucking stupid though. Buddy you were still alive and you decided to just bank on your identical plot and hope and got defeated the same way again? On the bright side I think you're advanced and smart enough to have a SECOND backup, on the other hand I think you might be too legitimately stupid to live. Either that or the file transfer process turned you retarded.
Also it's not skippable if you want to read the text story and see how the ending of possibly the entire story goes (I have yet to do so)

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>>23711054
>I'm fucking looking at you Gcucks

>>23711058
No!!!

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>>23711072
YES

>>23710633
What's wrong with them? After Oshii shat the bed with Patlabor movie 2, does it really surprise anyone that the Japs are also cautious of him ruining Votoms too?

>>23711078
>filename
He really was literally there just for fapbait and some vague plot progression

>>23710683
I read that the recent Heavygear RPG was trash though. As in, clearly not proofread and having copy pasted rules from the wargame that don't work at all on the RPG version.

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>>23711083
>fap
Fapping with the kirakira.

>>23711082
>Somehow, the JSDF are staging another military coup even in the Astragius galaxy.

>>23710513
the 2d animation drawn on top of 3d cg in Gwitch looked pretty good. They should have gone with that for the other Gundam shows afterwards

I guess the backdrop of the 100 years war fits oshi's style more than making GitS dry or using Patlabour to philosophise about article 5, but even then the political backdrop of votoms is more just there to give Chirico excuses to blow things up while running from secret police

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>>23710850

>>23711140
Show us in the doll where Oshii touched you.

>>23710248
WFM did well so they’re just putting the word Witch in everything to try and ride off that I guess

>>23711084
Wrong on both counts. It does have kinda terrible layout though so maybe you confused that with one of them

>>23711140
Sky Crawlers had a similar "permanent war for no reason" type setting

>>23710305
wasn't directed by Oshii

>>23711082
>shat the bed
holy fucking bait

>>23711082
>After Oshii shat the bed with Patlabor movie 2
>Another fucking Noa waifufag filtered
It's all so tiresome...

I assume The Gray Witch is an AT.

>>23711231
It's probably going to be another Perfect Soldier or Nextant thing

>>23711171
……on my pp….

>>23710323
We’re not in the 2000s anymore. CGI mecha has come a long way.

>>23710644
Seethe more cuntface

>>23711304
why is this guy crashing tf out

>>23711306
But some Japs insulted Oshii

>tfw still haven't picked up Patlabor yet
Surely it's good

>>23711405
Think of it like J-Decker (another police /m/ series) and you'll have a jolly time with it.

>>23711405
Nobody cares newfag.

>>23711407
J-Decker WAS good, I just wasn't in a major policing mood in a while

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>>23711436
Deckard will wish you on having a fun experience on the Patlabor franchise when that time comes.

>>23710483
>tourist
There's way more entries and/or hours of VOTOMS with 2d animation than with CG.

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>>23711084
Nah, 4e's great. The editing isn't fantastic as >>23711199 said, but mechanically it's very solid.

>>23710633
>The AT battle will only last the first 5 minutes, and the rest of the story will be about Kiriko being chased by Rottina and punishing some thugs at a soba restaurant...
*sensible chuckle*
>>23710635
>There will definitely be a dog and a fisheye shot.
That counts no points, it's the bingo free space.

>>23711512
Irrelevant.

>>23710501
So, when's Hathaway episode 2 coming out anyway?

>>23711656
January 30 in Japan.

>>23711116
There has been 1 gundam show since WfM and it wasnt made by Sunrise. They know it looks good, give them time.

>>23710993
and it was stiff as shit. Only positives were the voice talent.

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>>23710164
Diving Beetle my beloved

>>23711082
Patlabor 2 was good thoughever

>>23712471
Tezuka Pro quality, nothing unusual.

>>23710113
FUCK YES
YES YES YES

>>23710501
Kino

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>>23710113
Consider the following.

>>23710113
The most interesting thing about this was the AI-slop "80s movie aesthetic" Warhammer 40K video YT suggested afterwards.

>>23716567
the stench of bikini bottom
clings to me

>>23716567
Sandy Cheeks as Fyana

>>23710113
Who's the character designer. That's the part that scares me.

>>23718071
Remains to be seen, literally all the staff info given is the studio and director, and that's it.

>>23710113
I'm interested in the fact Mamoru Oshii got to touch VOTOMS to begin with, the man prefers his melodrama and philosophy more than action. I wonder how balanced VOTOMS will be between those 2 opposing ends with him involved, I hope there's more action.

>>23721345
>the man prefers his melodrama and philosophy more than action
Why do these tourists pretend to know anything?

>>23711083
>fapbait
Are you gay?

>>23710479
You have been posting this every time a new show gets announced for the past 10 years.

>>23721345
>the man prefers his melodrama and philosophy more than action
is Patlabor 2 your only oshii movie or something?

>>23716567
Where's Plankton?

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Made for ryona.

>>23733252
That's not how it works.

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>>23716567

>>23739973
>tells Chirico that he was just a mediocre AT pilot without him

>>23739973
Karen is much better suited to be Wiseman than Plankton.

>>23736050
Please spare me.

>>23710305
don't forget the CG animation

>>23740364
So plankton is rocchina then.

>>23710113
just when I thought votoms couldnt get any worse

>>23747855
Cry about it zoomoid.

>>23710635
>There will definitely be a dog and a fisheye shot.
I mean Oshii probably does it so often because of VOMOMS in the first place lol

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>>23710683
>>Heavy Gear is back
>>and now VOTOMS is back
feels good bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqQg-x9sR8

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>>23761048
That does remind me, its been a while since I've checked, is the new Heavy Gear game still doing well? I don't recall seeing an update about it in a little bit.

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Straight from 2010, the BASAV.

>>23768658
Thank you.

>>23768658
now post the real one

>>23710113
Museru intensifies.

>>23710113
I've been watching a lot of Oshii movies.
Rewatched GITS 1 and 2.
Watched Jin-Roh, and The Sky Crawlers for the first time recently.
Planning a rewatch of Patlabor 1 and 2.
Watched the Dallos movie.

People talk about Oshii's Basset hounds and fisheye shots, but it seems like another one of his trademarks is like
"comfy military personnel life"
Hoping for and looking forward to this in Die Graue Hexe

>>23776977
>"comfy military personnel life"
yeah even if it's just an hour of people chilling hanging around ATs like that stuff in P2 that wouldn't be bad

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>>23776977
>>23777023
Speaking of Patlabor, any news about the new series, whatever it was supposed to be?

>>23777221
They had a trailer just a month ago, seems on track by all I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu35eXiEpFg

>>23776977
>Jin-Roh
Not by Oshii.

>>23777267
Written by him and heavily draws from the Kerberos manga, and from what I gather in interviews he very much oversaw the project as it was initially his to direct before passing it onto Okiura.

But yeah, people do mis-attribute its direction to Oshii too much.

>>23777250
It feels like I'm watching an Evangelion trailer. Not a bad feeling, just kind of distinct.

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>>23776977
That's quite curious, since Votoms is the opposite of "Comfy military Personnel life" Except for brief stints like Vanilla's cafe in Kummen which was peaceful for a little bit before getting burnt to the ground (and then getting burnt to the ground again in Phantom arc)

>>23777760
>[Deleted]
Why? There was nothing wrong with that post.

>>23778280
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/m.desu.meta/deleted/deleted/
JOURNEY WITH ME INTO THE MIND OF A MANIAC

>>23778316
Many of those are by duel so it makes sense.

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>>23778327
iirc there's chatter that there is something to be said for "quantity is a quality"
if you want pictures of robots on your robot image board, post images of robots

>>23778374
last time I saw it got me off my ass to go full Juche again
maybe if that's the option, the brigandish imperialists need to be put back in their place like a robber who cries "thief" at being stolen from

>>23778240
You might be referring to a post I deleted myself. Wasn't mod fuckery. I got this thread mixed up with a thread about Hathaway, which also reminds me of Evangelion for different reasons. Just got conversations mixed up.
Unless I'm mistaken and it was something else that was deleted.

>>23778333
>It's worse when you realize how hard traffic everywhere other than /pol/ got hit after the hack last year.
Even /a/ and /v/?

>>23779899
>>23780065
>>23782489
Why do you keep replying to yourself with this false narrative?

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>>23776977
I can see it.

>>23765113
The video game or the RPG?

Video game is in asset creation phase
RPG is releasing adventures soon

>>23776977
>>23787570
So, any other series leaning into this comfy military personnel life thing?

>>23710683
Now if only we could get a Front Mission game that isn't AI slop and we'd have the mini-mecha trifecta.

>>23710483
>if at least one entry has CGslop you must accept all entries will now be CGslop
waow
>>23711297
Every CG from the last 20 years aside from Unicorn still looks like absolute shit

>>23791381
Besides what I posted (Sky Crawlers is the peak btw), I'm trying to think of non-obvious examples since you could argue a case for basically every big name mecha series. Of course most are going to be action oriented rather than downtime oriented. Macross might have a good balance. Hathaway 1 had a good amount of it, spending a lot of time on a Feddie base just chillin, and I'm hoping 2 is similarly paced.
As far as vidya, Kojima games, MGS: Peace Walker, MGSV:TPP, Death Stranding 1 and 2 have it.
Starship Troopers OVA had it. Venus Wars a little, maybe, though I think it's only in the latter half. Area 88 iirc. Legend of the Blue Wolves of course.

still pretending to hate cg mecha in 2026 is larp

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liking cg mecha in any year is a government program

>>23792165
Idk mang, I'm starting to like it if it's done right (ie: when Mamoru Oshii does it)

>>23792123
I will never like it.

>>23796038
You can decide you'll never like it, and that might become true for you, but you also might just not have seen it used in a way you like yet.

>>23792165
THE CG MECHA WILL CONTINUE

UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

It's not like they have any 2D artists left that can do mecha. I don't even feel sorry for them, they did it to themselves.

>>23796283
Retard.

>>23796297
>can't argue against facts
>resorts to ad-hominem
average /m/echa poster

>>23796301
>another retarded post
Please marvel us with a third one.

>>23796305
>got called out
>chose to double down
>using the plural we of all things

>>23796308
Good boy, if you sit you can have a treat.

>>23796316
>got schooled again
>now pretends it's talking to a dog on 4chan

>>23796321
Who are you quoting?

>>23796326
>attempts age-old tactic to paint green text as being used exclusively for direct quotations
Yawn.

>>23796330
Retelling everything like some bot doesn't make you look any less retarded.

>>23796336
>deflects to le bot boogeyman
>continues overuse of the word retarded due to limited vocabulary and brain capacity

>>23796301
We have a few of those here, just report and ignore

>>23710118
I hope the main character is a man and the gray witch is just an AT he pursues.

>>23802156
we are still in the woke times. Probably lesbian fem MC who has nothing to do with the AT soldiers from the original show.

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>>23802164
das good i love jacking off to lesbians/really hot twins