https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPgSVYu4C6cSunrise and Production I.G, directed by Mamoru Oshii
Post your impressions/discussions on the teaser.
i'm cumming
>>23710113>directed by Mamoru Oshiiwhere the FUCK is Takahashi?
>>23710113Sounds like Kenji Kawai's doing the music?
Last VOTOMS thing I watched was Mellowlink and that was a couple years ago now. I really need to watch everything else.
what are you guys hoping to see? I like Chirico but it'd probably be better off without him around
>>23710164Hozumi Goda is pushing 70 now. Alone Again came out 15 years ago.
>>23710113Holy fucking shit I just came.>>23710134Probably resting and enjoying some good food in peace away from production deadlines, the man is 83.
>>23710134fucking your mom
>>23710140>two Kenji Kawai anime in one yearBlessed timeline.
>>23710164>what are you guys hoping to seenew Okawara original AT
>>23710164I want Chirico.They need to anime God's child arc.
>>23710113>WW3 is inminent>New VOTOMSNice timing
>>23710198And instead of mechs we're getting sonic weapons that make you shit your pants and puke blood.
Just saw the twatter post and uh....Holy shit?
>>23710167Yeah but Chirico has a gruff older sounding voice anyway so it really doesn't matter. He sounded fine in his more recent SRW appearances.
>>23710113What is with Bandai and their obsession with witches? Is this some kind of "every year until you like it" thing?
Chirico:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEuga3ZAN8
>>23710248It's the thematic contrast between military sci-fi and magic and superstition
>>23710251Don't engage with patternfags.
I expect yet another lesson in just how painfully long and drawn out the decline of a franchise can be.
>>23710113Can't believe we are actually getting a new VOTOMS anime in this gay fuckass timeline we are currently living in, AND it's being directed by the kinomeister himself, Oshii. I don't give a fuck about anything else, I just gotta survive long enough to watch this.
Patlabor, GitS, and now Votoms. Might be a good year for mecha. The Grey Witch is a weird choice what with it being the title of the first Lodoss Wars novel, somebody at Sunrise must be really into witches. It's a cute coincidence as Izubuchi was the illustrator for all the early Lodoss stuff and he's directing Patlabor EZY. Super cerebral AT with lots of dense dialogue and literary references could be fun anyway.
Impossible to care considering how every VOTOMS entry outside the original series is dogshit
>new remake of an /m/ classic with a German subtitle hated by diehard oldschool fanboys
>CG
>>23710323The mechs were bound to be CG, but I'm praying mostly everything else is handrawn
>>23710324I wonder, is this even a remake or a new story? If anything, to promote this, we need a Figure-rise Fyana to go with the Brutishdog. Or heck, GIVE US CHIRICO! HE COOL!
>>23710328Chirico a shit. He killed my family.
I only watched the main series, are the OVA worth?Also the main series was largely influenced by sci-fi movies of that time, which one is this new one be inspired by? Avatar?
>>23710305try again when the character designs are revealed
>>23710113Is this going to be a movie? OVA?
>>23710113>VOTOMS:WITCH FROM MERCURY/u/ chads eating gud
>>23710347Anti-gaijin sentiment hopefully.
What do you think of Oshii handling this? I've heard his modern stuff has been pretty washed
>>23710384>I've heard his modern stuff has been pretty washedto be fair, he only has one directing credits in the last 16 years and it was an attempt at creating a slapstick comedyhis own other credits are a little bit of script writing and story boarding/composition
>>23710384Oshii hasn't directed anything anime related go know whether he's washed or not besides Vlad Love which was well-directed but kind of had an esoteric plot.
>>23710113>mechs driving across a forest floor like it's mirror sheen flatThe animators are delivering according to their pay grade, I see.
>>23710113Why do they keep bringing back based old anime and take a shit all over them with cgi garbage. They did the same shit to Hokuto no Ken.
>>23710396yeah? isnt that just how AT's move on all terrain?
>>23710384>I've hearddon't.
>>23710407In the cartoon, it was them porting over the animation trick used to make the Doms slide, I think.But Doms use literal hover jets while VOTOMS move on wheels with ground contact, like roller skates. While their movement being highly stylized is sensible enough in cell animation, it really falls flat in photo realistic 3D animation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPegTk-w7Bw
>>23710389>was well-directed but kind of had an esoteric plotThat's just Oshii.
>>23710399They've only shown CG mecha so far, and the mecha have been CG in Votoms since Pailsen Files in 2006 (with the one exception of Case;Irvine). The Hokuto no Ken shit looks way worse than these CG Scopedogs too.
It’s truly over for mechanical 2D animation isn’t it…
>complaining about CG>for Votoms of all things Do these tourists just watch the OG and pretend they are fans?
>>23710399At least the CG here isn't animated like Star Fox SNES. There isn't any reason to have that low FPS garbage that is everywhere nowadays.
For me it’s armor hunter merolink
>>23710384Oshii's works are carried by beautiful hand-drawn animation.
>>23710501Witch From Mercury saved mecha! Yay! Tanuki!
Finally something /m/ which is not gay.
If it doesn't have the classic AT skating sound effects then it will be junk
>>23710600>If it doesn't have the classic AT skating sound effects then it will be junk>If it does then you'll just call it meaningless nostalgia wankThere's no winning with you people.
Please don't suck.
I liked the cgi animation Palisen files and the sequels...
>>23710113Holy shit those comments>ボトムズ以外のなにかに仕上がってそう>It looks like it will turn out to be something other than Votoms.>AT戦は最初の5分だけで、あとはただただキリコがロッチナに追い立てられながら立ち食いそば屋でチンピラを折檻する話かもしれない・・・>The AT battle will only last the first 5 minutes, and the rest of the story will be about Kiriko being chased by Rottina and punishing some thugs at a soba restaurant...>Q:これはボトムズ?>A:多分そう、部分的にそう>Q: Is this Votoms?>A: Maybe, partially.
>>23710633>みんな期待と不安が半々だと思う。ボトムズと呼べるものが完成するのか、ボトムズぽぃ何かになるのか…I think everyone is half excited and half worried. Will they be able to complete something that can be called Votoms, or will it end up being something Votoms-like?>絶対犬と魚眼構図が出る。間違いないよThere will definitely be a dog and a fisheye shot.
>>23710633>>23710635This sounds like the exact same shit you'd read here, is it really that special to you that the japanese have similar opinions?
>>23710198Made me look but Nice try
I'm very excitedI love VOTOMS but not that much that i'm overly worried about it being "ruined", just glad we get something new
>>23710248Good. Total witch love. Witchbros we eating good
>>23710113Anime means a game is possible means a PS2 gameplay feel new VOTOMS game is possible but I'm not getting delusional because I remember how it was with anime to game in Synduality
>Heavy Gear is back>and now VOTOMS is back
>>23710672i'm not ever touching the synduality game but only because it's pvp, are the mechanics actually bad?
>>23710696Didn't touch it either but reading into it and seeing the gameplay made me realize that having mecha isn't enough to save a predatory kusoge
>>23710113Will we finally learn why the bubbles were green and the significance of them being green?
>>23710483>Do these tourists just watch the OG and pretend they are fans?That describes all of /m/ in a nutshell actually.
>>23710347For the most part, yeah. Big Battle is like a really good episode of the original series extended to 45 minutes. Roots of Ambition covers Chirico joining the Red Shoulders and sets up Pailsen. Solid watch. The Last Red Shoulder is a lot of fun, cool action and an incredible AT design in the Bloodsucker. Shining Heresy is largely okay until the last episode (or two, I forget when Chirico makes his move) where it gets much more exciting. The overall idea for the plot is also pretty interesting. I skipped Phantom Arc on the recommendation of the friend who convinced me to watch VOTOMS. The last time I ignored his advice to skip something I ended up watching Macross II, so I'm willing to trust him when he says it's trash. Alone Again is okay, it has some solid moments but overall it didn't really grab me. I really enjoyed Case;Irvine, the main crux of it is one solid arena fight using some fighting styles that don't come up anywhere else in the franchise.I thought Finder was boring, but I still respect it as an experiment for the different kinds of stories that can be told within the setting.
>>23710837>I skipped Phantom ArcIt basically undoes everything from the TV show and Shining Heresy but Chirico walks away from it all with another Wiseman baby to raise.
>>23710850>don't talk to me or my adopted son ever again
>>23710850Blonde kid looks like he's seen some heavy shit.
Phantom Arc goes back to Kummen just to show us Pol Pot was in fact a terrible leader.
>>23710134He's retired.
>>23710837I liked Phantom Arc but it's because I really liked Chirico's friends enough to watch what's essentially a play-by-play revisit of each location of the show as well as some of the plotlines. There's still some interesting plot or character moments you'd miss by skipping it, and there's a text-only continuation of it where you deal with whatever's happening here: >>23710850Mellowlink was very nice but I haven't seen either of the Case ones
>>23710944No. He directed The Fable last year.
>>23710960Phantom arc was alright but leaned a bit too hard on the 'member berries, especially at the end where wiseman brings chirco to his core and then chirco just kills him in the exact same way with the exact same reaction, like holy shit how can he be this retarded
>>23710248It's just trend chasing. Witches are currently "in" for whatever reason. Look at some of the most popular manga currently running: Witchriv, Ichi the Witch, Witch Watch, etc. The kids want witches, and Bandai being a business, by god is going to give them witches.
Witches ain't shit
>>23710113>Oshii's VOTOMSholy fuck
>>23711030It did, but the remberberries worked well on me because I really did like the supporting cast and it somehow felt like it's been so long since we saw our beloved trio (24 years since Big Battle's release and then Phantom Arc), call it cheap but it worked on me, although it's not great if the main highlight of a show or movie consists of it pointing to a prior and better show (I'm fucking looking at you Gcucks). It was neat to see how everyone was doing, with us getting some peaceful and happy closure with the desert lady as well.I did think that last bit was really really fucking stupid though. Buddy you were still alive and you decided to just bank on your identical plot and hope and got defeated the same way again? On the bright side I think you're advanced and smart enough to have a SECOND backup, on the other hand I think you might be too legitimately stupid to live. Either that or the file transfer process turned you retarded.Also it's not skippable if you want to read the text story and see how the ending of possibly the entire story goes (I have yet to do so)
>>23711054>I'm fucking looking at you Gcucks
>>23711058No!!!
>>23711072YES
>>23710633What's wrong with them? After Oshii shat the bed with Patlabor movie 2, does it really surprise anyone that the Japs are also cautious of him ruining Votoms too?
>>23711078>filenameHe really was literally there just for fapbait and some vague plot progression
>>23710683I read that the recent Heavygear RPG was trash though. As in, clearly not proofread and having copy pasted rules from the wargame that don't work at all on the RPG version.
>>23711083>fapFapping with the kirakira.
>>23711082>Somehow, the JSDF are staging another military coup even in the Astragius galaxy.
>>23710513the 2d animation drawn on top of 3d cg in Gwitch looked pretty good. They should have gone with that for the other Gundam shows afterwards
I guess the backdrop of the 100 years war fits oshi's style more than making GitS dry or using Patlabour to philosophise about article 5, but even then the political backdrop of votoms is more just there to give Chirico excuses to blow things up while running from secret police
>>23710850
>>23711140Show us in the doll where Oshii touched you.
>>23710248WFM did well so they’re just putting the word Witch in everything to try and ride off that I guess
>>23711084Wrong on both counts. It does have kinda terrible layout though so maybe you confused that with one of them
>>23711140Sky Crawlers had a similar "permanent war for no reason" type setting
>>23710305wasn't directed by Oshii
>>23711082>shat the bedholy fucking bait
>>23711082>After Oshii shat the bed with Patlabor movie 2>Another fucking Noa waifufag filteredIt's all so tiresome...
I assume The Gray Witch is an AT.
>>23711231It's probably going to be another Perfect Soldier or Nextant thing
>>23711171……on my pp….
>>23710323We’re not in the 2000s anymore. CGI mecha has come a long way.
>>23710644Seethe more cuntface
>>23711304why is this guy crashing tf out
>>23711306But some Japs insulted Oshii
>tfw still haven't picked up Patlabor yetSurely it's good
>>23711405Think of it like J-Decker (another police /m/ series) and you'll have a jolly time with it.
>>23711405Nobody cares newfag.
>>23711407J-Decker WAS good, I just wasn't in a major policing mood in a while
>>23711436Deckard will wish you on having a fun experience on the Patlabor franchise when that time comes.
>>23710483>touristThere's way more entries and/or hours of VOTOMS with 2d animation than with CG.
>>23711084Nah, 4e's great. The editing isn't fantastic as >>23711199 said, but mechanically it's very solid.
>>23710633>The AT battle will only last the first 5 minutes, and the rest of the story will be about Kiriko being chased by Rottina and punishing some thugs at a soba restaurant...*sensible chuckle*>>23710635>There will definitely be a dog and a fisheye shot.That counts no points, it's the bingo free space.
>>23711512Irrelevant.
>>23710501So, when's Hathaway episode 2 coming out anyway?
>>23711656January 30 in Japan.
>>23711116There has been 1 gundam show since WfM and it wasnt made by Sunrise. They know it looks good, give them time.
>>23710993and it was stiff as shit. Only positives were the voice talent.
>>23710164Diving Beetle my beloved
>>23711082Patlabor 2 was good thoughever
>>23712471Tezuka Pro quality, nothing unusual.
>>23710113FUCK YESYES YES YES
>>23710501Kino
>>23710113Consider the following.
>>23710113The most interesting thing about this was the AI-slop "80s movie aesthetic" Warhammer 40K video YT suggested afterwards.
>>23716567the stench of bikini bottomclings to me
>>23716567Sandy Cheeks as Fyana
>>23710113Who's the character designer. That's the part that scares me.
>>23718071Remains to be seen, literally all the staff info given is the studio and director, and that's it.
>>23710113I'm interested in the fact Mamoru Oshii got to touch VOTOMS to begin with, the man prefers his melodrama and philosophy more than action. I wonder how balanced VOTOMS will be between those 2 opposing ends with him involved, I hope there's more action.
>>23721345>the man prefers his melodrama and philosophy more than actionWhy do these tourists pretend to know anything?
>>23711083>fapbaitAre you gay?
>>23710479You have been posting this every time a new show gets announced for the past 10 years.
>>23721345>the man prefers his melodrama and philosophy more than actionis Patlabor 2 your only oshii movie or something?
>>23716567Where's Plankton?
Made for ryona.
>>23733252That's not how it works.
>>23716567
>>23728796Wiseman, obviously.
>>23739973>tells Chirico that he was just a mediocre AT pilot without him
>>23739973Karen is much better suited to be Wiseman than Plankton.
>>23740364Okay wise guy time to put that brain of yours in the robot body. I went to college!
>>23736050Please spare me.
>>23710305 don't forget the CG animation
>>23740364So plankton is rocchina then.
>>23710113just when I thought votoms couldnt get any worse
