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>>23714455
Not the best episode. Pretty obvious twist and the "murder game" seemed more like a regular monster doing his shtick than anything creative. It would have been more dramatic if he forced the students to kill each other rather than just chasing them like a Sentai monster. And it's weird that we don't see the other Agent's rider form either this or the next episode.
Still, the mystery keeps mysterying, so let's see where all this CODE bullshit leads. As is, I don't think Nox or Lady are any better than whatever "darkness" CODE has, as they're blowing up schools and endangering children every week like they're nothing.
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>>23714499
I'm still banking on the big twist being that the real world is an illusion, it would partially explain why Nox is so flippant about the destruction the Nightmares cause.
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What did you like and dislike about the episode?
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>>23714535
The episode felt shorter than usual because of the pacing and the final fight was just kinda ok, but I do like the twist even though I saw it coming a mile away.
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>>23714535
Agent 3 is such a downgrade and Nasuka getting sidelined in her own supposed arc is a downer. Well, at least Nemu wasn't a target of suffering this week. Fujimi is still the goat.
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>>23714547
This isn't Nasuka's story. It's Kureha's. It's spelt out to you when it's revealed that the dreamer is actually Kureha
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>>23714499
I like this guy's Wakamoto impression
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What are you impressions on these characters?
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>>23714559
Yeah, but this was the perfect chance for Nasuka to have some focus and be actually relevant for once, the "victim of the week" is related to her.
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>>23714574
Nasuka can't enter dreams, so there isn't much she can do in Kureha's introduction episode. It might come up later.
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>>23714565
why does 3 look like Aleks Le
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>>23714622
He looks like asian Don Cheadle.
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So Kureha indeed retired, but now it seems she would be forced back to service again Agent Bussin'.
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>>23714565
He's literally me.
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>>23714455
>>23714535
It was an okay episode. The biggest highlight for me was the Nightmare feeling like a real menacing threat this time around, I hope he's actually killing people irl because I feel this show is severely lacking in deaths, we're almost 20 episodes in and we haven't seen a single person die yet. Like the other anon said, it just going straight after the students instead of forcing them to kill each other or something doesn't seem much like a "death game". Also, it seems like Kureha landing a shot on him will be the key to defeating him.

It was nice to see Nasuka show a more vulnerable side of herself and get some focus for once. The comment Yanaka made that Kami's background story for her was that she was a rebel back in her school years seems to have gone nowhere, since here it's shown she was as stuck up as ever even back then. And Fujimi's deductions are wrong as always. It's kind of suspicious that both detectives of the PSB have ties to CODE Agents, don't you think? Especially since Nasuka was basically forced to join the unit against her will. I wonder if Zero or some other member of CODE has been moving the strings of the police department, we do know that the former director of the PSB left for unknown reasons. Speaking of Zero, Three somewhat implied that him using a remote controlled robot body was an specific quirk of his and not standard procedure for CODE commanders, so now there's the mystery of why he was doing that. Also, I would've been annoyed at the fact that they took him out to conveniently delay the revelation of CODE's secrets to Baku, but it seems like he and Kureha will piece out said mysteries next week, so it's okay.

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>>23714730
That anon who kept defending Nox by claiming he had no control over the Nightmares' actions just got proven wrong as we now see that his faction is cultivating the Nightmares themselves and letting them loose into people's dreams, and they're probably using Nem to make them manifest more often, which means they are behind the sudden increase in Black Cases in the last few years that Fujimi brought up many episodes ago. Also, the last episode made me think Nox would start destroying the Nightmares like a proper anti-hero to increase his arsenal and further his faction's plans, but he went right back to aiding the Nightmares again this week, which means he didn't develop as much as I thought. Every episode makes me question more and more why he thinks working for The Lady is somehow better than working for CODE, at this point he either has to be truly amoral/evil or mentally manipulated by The Lady into working for her. Or maybe he thinks there are no consequences to his actions because he perhaps knows the real world is just dream, but I'm still unsure about that.

There was some palpable lack of Minami this week, I hope they don't start sidelining her because she's easily the best supporting character in the show.

The two fights at the end of the episode were pretty good, better than usual. There was some good flow to the choreography this week instead of the usual clumsy slugging intercut with "cinematic" tryhard shots full of CG effects.

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>>23714565
Neither of these two new characters has made much of an impression yet.

We didn't see much of Three this week but, just like The Lady, it's extremely obvious that he's evil just by looking at how much of a blatant asshole he is. I don't see Baku working under him for very long.

Can't say much about Kureha's personality other than the fact that she seems to be a pretty serious individual but not as stuck up as Nasuka, though her implied background also means she probably won't be getting into many goofy shenanigans like her old friend does. Unlike Three, she seems to be a fairly normal person with quite a heroic drive, so if any of the 3 new Agents is gonna get redeemed, I bet it's gonna be her, especially since it was revealed she got brainwashed since childhood just like Baku was. Speaking of that, when the character got revealed I had actually considered the possibility that she was part of the "special" class getting MK Ultra'd by Nox in Baku's flashback, but I thought that theory wasn't going to turn out to be true because it was stated that she was Nasuka's old school friend and I thought Nasuka was a few years older than Baku, but I checked their ages and it turns out Baku and Nasuka have the exact same age.

I kinda wish Kureha had been introduced as a recurring character earlier in the show so that her introdution wouldn't be so abrupt. I know their intention was likely to make us think she was just another victim of the week and then pull a twist by revealing she's actually a very important character, but I don't think they did it very well since, on top of her being way more involved than previous victims of the week, they also made the "hints" way too obvious and they didn't even wait until the next half of the 2-parter to reveal the surprise.

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i was expecting the CODE people to use the fact that baku spared the traitor nox as a demerit against him but instead they just played off zero as a lying nignog
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>>23714743
>it's extremely obvious that he's evil just by looking at how much of a blatant asshole he is.
I'd wager no and that he's got his own circumstances that led to him looking like a ghoul and being an asshole. Nox has his own vendetta against CODE and that casts a shadow on the organization but so far CODE hasn't been the one causing casualties and collateral damage. The fact that he punted Baku right into the mission to protect Kureha who seems to have been retired is a point in the guy's favor. Zero's data getting stolen seems to have burned their agents so now Lady and Nox are going after sleeper agents besides Baku for whatever reason.
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>>23714730
>I hope he's actually killing people irl because I feel this show is severely lacking in deaths, we're almost 20 episodes in and we haven't seen a single person die yet.

I know they were being vague about it, but I'm pretty sure it was strongly implied the former students were dying. Otherwise the disappearing photos and Nasuka's borderline nervous break down when meeting Kureha wouldn't have nearly as much impact. I wouldn't be surprised if it were revealed to be otherwise, but it could go either way.

I'm willing to bet the reason it's not a "proper" death game is because it was never truly about the class, but spurring Kureha into reactivating as an agent. May sound like a copout or painfully obvious given the leaks, but there you go. Also would tie into Nox reminding Baku of "the darkness of CODE".

>I wonder if Zero or some other member of CODE has been moving the strings of the police department, we do know that the former director of the PSB left for unknown reasons.

Now there's an interesting twist I didn't think of. Good deduction.

>>23714734
>Every episode makes me question more and more why he thinks working for The Lady is somehow better than working for CODE, at this point he either has to be truly amoral/evil or mentally manipulated by The Lady into working for her.

I'm starting to get the impression Nox really is doing the best he can given the situation he's in. Given his conversation with The Lady in the previous ep, he doesn't seem to be totally brainwashed since he can tell when she's in his head. Rather, he's acting out of desperation and hoping that as dirty as his acts are, it's the only way to achieve a favorable outcome. Maybe it's not even about his actions not truly mattering, but doing what's necessary and atoning for it later, even if it means going down with CODE and the Lady. But I'm just spitballing here.
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>>23714929
>I'd wager no and that he's got his own circumstances that led to him looking like a ghoul and being an asshole.
He's literally one of the confirmed main antagonists of this arc. His look and behavior just make it more obvious that he's going to be a villain.

>Nox has his own vendetta against CODE and that casts a shadow on the organization but so far CODE hasn't been the one causing casualties and collateral damage.
CODE has been brainwashing children to turn them into Agents. Kureha's twisted Nightmare is a result of her traumatic experiences working as an Agent of CODE. Even Kureha herself questions why Baku's working for CODE in the preview.

Zero as an individual might be more benevolent, but Three clearly isn't and whatever higher-up that appointed him as Zero's replacement probably isn't as well. The show has been hinting that Baku will end up having to face against both Nox's faction and CODE at some point.

>The fact that he punted Baku right into the mission to protect Kureha who seems to have been retired is a point in the guy's favor
She will stop being a retired Agent soon, whether she wants it or not.
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>>23714950
I guess I exaggerated somewhat when I said Nox had to be truly amoral/evil since he doesn't seem to relish in his evil actions, but he does give off the vibes of a "the ends justify the means" extremist who's willing to commit evil acts for "the greater good" or whatever, kind of like Kaito during Gaim's endgame. But that still puts him firmly in villain territory, because a villain with good intentions is still a villain, as we've seen many times before in Rider.

>he doesn't seem to be totally brainwashed since he can tell when she's in his head
He can tell she invaded his mind because of what she says to him, but I don't think he's aware of when it's actually happening. Obviously she isn't literally controlling his mind, but I feel like there's a possibility she might be using her suggestion powers on him to some degree, especially after seeing his headache in the recent Transformation Lesson video.
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>>23714950
>I'm willing to bet the reason it's not a "proper" death game is because it was never truly about the class, but spurring Kureha into reactivating as an agent
Good observation, but I think it's less about reactivating Kureha as an Agent and more so forcing Kureha to recall her erased memories as an Agent, possibly to find out the location of CODE's HQ or some other secret they're hiding. This is very much the scheme of Nox and The Lady, not CODE which seemingly wants Kureha to avoid the Nightmare by protecting her from it.

>Also would tie into Nox reminding Baku of "the darkness of CODE"
Sounds kind of hypocritical when The Lady and Nox are the ones who orchestrated this whole incident themselves.
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>>23714535
What I liked:
-All the set ups, I hope they get good pay offs.
-Kureha, she's kind of pretty and I'm digging her stoic and no fun allowed personality. I'm ok with her as an antagonist or ally.
-That Nem will finally will do something instead of being a decoration.
-The Nightmares' designs.
-Nasuta

What I dislike:
-Agent asshole. Kicking your best agent in the guts is the most retarded way to make him cooperate
-If CODE is so evil, why doesn't Nox tell Baku what they are up to? At least drop bits of information instead of go one hundred percent cryptic. It's getting annoying.
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>>23715004
It's starting to make Nox look more like a controlled opposition or informant. If he told Baku what they were doing, his cover would be blown
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Baku telling Agent 3 about the deal he personally made with Zero to learn about CODE's secrets was kinda dumb, it could land both him and Zero in hot water since those are supposed to be secrets for a reason and it's not like he has proven to be very loyal to this organization he's been constantly warned about lately.



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