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It is time to admit that Delta was the best Macross entry. It had the most cogent everything really. You guys think the upcoming one from Sunrise will surpass it or not?
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>>23732948
It was okay
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>>23732948
No can do. It was a pleasant surprise that it was actually good after hearing only bad things for years, but in terms of Macross it's mid-low tier. Can only put II and Zero below it.
Its biggest offense was having maybe only 2 standout songs and neither was enough to ingrain itself into my soul/memory, when SDF/7/Frontier each all had 5+ of those. Even Plus snuck 1 in
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>>23732948
They slandered the Jenius name in that one and generally didn't even bother to attempt to do anything about all the fucks they didn't give.
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>>23732948
Kinda ironic that for a show titled "Delta", it actually resolves the love triangle.
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It's not the train wreck some spergs say it is, but imo it's the weakest Macross. Still good though. As for Sunrise, I just hope the new series looks good. Say what you will about CGI mechs but there was something comfy about Satelights' Macross and now we're getting something completely different.
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Its crazy that this is still the newest Macross.
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>>23734039
It's crazy how they announced the next entry was already in development when Delta TV ended and almost a decade later: Nothing.
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>>23733133
>Slandered the name
The entire point of the character is that it's absurd to expect everyone in the family to be a clone of their granddad and she's being way too hard on herself by considering only once-in-a-generation talent to be a passing grade.
Do you think you were meant to infer that Max just had the Pilot Gene and passed it to all his other descendants or something?
>>23734038
I think Delta's probably the best that the CG integration has been, though Frontier's was solid too. I like that they settled on a look that wasn't trying to imitate 2D. I think embracing the 3Dness of it and trying to make it complement the 2D works better than trying to disguise the 3D as 2D, since you don't have to worry about breaking the look as much.
It looks like the new Patlabor show is going for something similar, which I think is wise.
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>>23732948
fucking kill youself
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>>23732948
It was boring.
Hayate has no personality and is just a weaker Alto.

He had a little bit of style and originality in the original 1st episode when he was implied to be a breakdancing delinquent, but then they took that away.
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>>23734106
>Hayate has no personality and is just a weaker Alto.
Alto was an annoying shit head and his whole dressing up like a woman and father issues were completely superficial to anything related to the plot.
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>>23734131
and that had more depth that whatever the supposed MC of this turd >>23732948 was
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>>23734076
That's because they made two Delta movies and a bunch of shorts instead.
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>>23734135
No. No it really didn't. He mostly just stood around getting pissed off at nothing for the entire series.
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>>23734843
Don't forget that in TV at least, he's comically indecisive in the love triangle.
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You people are literally posting in a drool slide thread.
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>>23734131
>and his whole dressing up like a woman and father issues were completely superficial to anything related to the plot.
Plot-wise, he wasn't even the MC, but the eye candy man slut the woman and the girl were lusting after, yes.
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>>23732948
Delta was the only Macross I never finished just because of how boring it was so nope

The music slapped but I didnt care about Freyja and Hayate practically had no struggles outside of his mid life crisis waifu. And some of the girls were underused and very notedly to me had VERY little interaction with Hayate.

>>23734131
Alto was fine if not a little boring. He didnt bring any drama to his show.
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Thoughts on the mecha for this series?
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>>23739363
Where did the Windmere get the tech/specs to make their own Variable Fighters?
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>>23735278
>He didnt bring any drama to his show.
Yeah. That's bad. A character should have some amount of drama. Alto was just a bitch for no reason.

>>23739390
From the same people who sold the good guys theirs. Pay attention.
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>>23739363
I really liked them. The Draken 3 is neat, both from trying to show a different design lineage to the UN's mainline fighters and attempting to do a single-engine look. I also love the VF-31, more than a lot of people it seems.
>>23739390
They bought them on the open market, not sure if he's in the film but in the TV show we straight-up meet an arms dealer involved at one point.
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>>23739591
I'm really disappointing SRWY didn't let Mirage get her draken
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>>23735278
>Alto was fine if not a little boring. He didnt bring any drama to his show.

Most of the male leads save for 7 are just like that. Gamlin escape the daddy issues problem Hikaru, Alto, Shin (kinda), and Hayate had because all we know is he's the son of a widow and that's not in the show proper.
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>>23732999
>having maybe only 2 standout songs and neither was enough to ingrain itself into my soul/memory
Is it one of these one songs at least Ikenai Borderline? Delta easily has better songs than Frontier and 7.
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>>23741127
No. No it doesn't.
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>>23732948
I doubt Sunrise will surpass it.
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Delta being the best at anything but being a vehicle to sell virtual idol tickets and CDs is a laughable idea.
Maybe best at making it clear that Kawamori shouldn't lead Macross projects anymore. Definitely shouldn't direct. Stick to mechanical design and production supervision.
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>>23742782
At a certain point I've realized that Macross almost in it's entirety is pretty shit sci made to pander to Kawamori's idol fetish.
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>>23741127
>Better songs than 7
Not a hard task. M7 is full of really shitty wannabe jap glam rock
>Better songs than Frontier
Nah Diamond Crevessace,Triangular and Lion were peak. It did have quite a few good songs in its OST though.

>>23732999
>Only 2
Unironically go listen to the OST again if you think Delta only had 2 good songs. Absolute 5, Walkure Ga Tomaranai, Zettai Reido and Change!!! were all some good shit
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>>23742782
I'm so tired of the narrative bouncing between "The suits never let Kawamori do what he wants" and "Kawamori needs to stop directing Macross!" Maybe you just never liked the series to begin with.



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