>Odysseus Gundam when equip with Fixed Flight Unit became Penelope>Nu Gundam MP when equip with Fixed Flight Unit became Alyzeus named after Penelope's brother in Greek MythPenelope also have another brother name Leucadius, so there's likely be a third Fixed Flight Unit in the third movie. Will the third unit going to be a new creation Gundam or using existing mobile suit like Nu MP as it base structure?
>>23733192Maybe it will maybe it won't. Just because they named a related unit after one brother doesn't mean there has to be one for the other one too.
>>23733192They'll just make Penelope with extra equipment and call it that
>>23733192Could you equip a FF unit to a GM?
>>23733221the MP Nu had to have its head and hips modified to mount the prototype versiona GM wouldn't have the computing power to handle operating it, and probably just collapse under its weight
>>23733202Yeah, the Argos unit mentioned in the HG manual.
>>23733247Argos is a different equipment set for Odysseus, it's by definition not Penelope with more stuff
Katoki has sniffed his own farts for too long
>>23733192>when equipIs the standard of English taught in schools just to be of ESL-quality now?
katoki finally made something good, holy shit
>>23733262>GoodNotice how they have to widen the legs of the Nu to even this design work. Also this is clearly not a Katoki design.
>>23735450Yep, the kit video even shows that you need to swap some hip parts for the armored form.
>>23735450Yes, it's explicitly stated the hops were modified to accommodate it. What is your point?
>>23735512What's the point in story wise to modify a Mass Production Nu Gundam with a "transformable" hip to fit a throw away test flight unit? Also they seem to use the Novel design of Penelope for the flight unit parts.
>>23735633To sell model kits of course. There aren't many new mobile suits in the novel so they have to make shit up
>>23735633Probably just took an old machine they had laying around to test the flight system and gather data for Penelope.
>>23735649>>23735657I know the real life reason. But there isn't a very good in story reason. This unit is completely incompatible with the actual Odysseus. They might as well just built a separate MS
>>23735671It's just a trainer unit made for Lane to get used to Penelope's handling. The MP Nu is there because that's probably the only MS they have in their inventory with built-in newtype controls for the funnel missiles.Building a separate MS is pointless because>It's cheaper to use existing parts for a unit that's going to be used only for a few test rides>There's already a superior machine being built
>>23733192I'm just mad they gave Lane a MP Nu and he just jobbed againlike this wasn't even in the novel dude
>>23735739>It's just a trainer unit made for Lane to get used to Penelope's handling.I get that that's the official text but how would a dozen random rocket engines train you for Penelope's magic 3D hover system and funnel missiles
>>23735739Pretty much, the Feds don't really have any dedicated machines with psycho frame or psycommu, so using an existing mp Nu is the best immediate option for tests.
>>23735739They had been many instances in Gundam where they built an entire suit to be a prototype. If look closely Alyzeus is actually half of the novel Penelope stuck onto a MP Nu with its original arms and most of the legs. The only thing MP Nu contributed is the main body. I have a feeling the third form of Penelope might be a variation of the novel version
Hathaway's Flash is very mid. Why does Bandai insist on shilling it?
>>23735773less effort than creating something new from scratch
>>23733192Parts of the Alyzeus look like the Novel Penelope. If they aren't damaged I suspect the 3rd movie would have a repaired Penelope that looks like the Novel version.
>>23735745Shut up, and buy our modelst. Bandai exec
>>23735754>>23735801It's pretty obvious that Penelope "Custom" in movie 3 is going to use parts from Odysseus, Penelope and Alyzeus and look a lot like Novel Penelope.Xi's going to get a similar customized version for movie 3 likely with a classic Gundam color scheme.
>>23733192What's a fixed flight unit and why does it look so WIDE?
>>23735850We already knows Odysseus can be equipped with something called an Argos Unit due to the HG manual. That's the safest bet for movie 3.Since it wasn't in the novel I was hoping Lane would put up a better fight but since he's still jobbing in movie 2 I'm better off expecting another KWABfest that looks incomprehensible in motion.
>>23735773>Why does a company insist on shilling their product?
>>23735861It's an attempt to glue ship flight systems on a mobile suit
>>23735773I mean, it worked. The box office of this 2nd movie is actually 150% higher than the original one. At least for these first few days.
>>23736070Why don't they just make a flying saucer that is super fast and can destroy mobile suits?
>>23736080They did, it's called an Asshimar.
>>23736088Why don't they....keep doing that? Imagine that, an aircraft that can dodge everything and snipe from far away.....what's the point of arms and legs when you can just shoot lasers from your body.
>>23736080They needed 20 more years to figure that one out and it wasn't even that good
>>23736094In Gundam terms, Minosky particles are to blame. Planes would need to be bigger to mount weapons capable of fighting ms, but they'd need to fly close enough to engage ms. They try solving this with transforming ms, but they seem yo eat up too much fuel and are a nightmare when it comes to maintenance.
>>23736097Oh and obviously stuff like Penelope and Xi are newer attempts to fix this.
>>23736094There is no reason for arms and legs at all or making them humanoid. But why are you watching Gundam of you cannot suspend your disbelief?
>>23736080Melee>>23736088And it had to be able to keep up with everything around it. And suddenly non-transforming MS are better at more static objectives. And suddenly non-transforming MS can be fast as fuck too t. Gaplant and The-O
>>23736094>Why don't they....keep doing that?They did; the Anksha is only 9 years old during the events of Hathaway's Flash and presumably still in service. Anaheim and the Federation are using a relatively small-scale conflict to test experimental new technology in live combat.
>>23736094the big advantage of the FFU is that it allows 360 degree movement in the atmosphere, they no longer need to obey gravity. If you watched the movies, Xi Gundam schools a bunch of MS and constantly appears in their blindspots because it does not need to move the same way as jets and other thruster based MS in the sky.
>>23733192what is the point of putting some dogshit AIslop filter on the image that rapes the quality?
>>23736584sorry for being autistic about image quality but jesus christ even the proportions are completely different.I will never understand why people do this.
>>23736080They already did that and it kicked ass
>>23736584>>23736593How do I guess when it's filter and not some remodeling/rerender?
>>23735633>What's the point in story wise to modify a Mass Production Nu Gundam with a "transformable" hip to fit a throw away test flight unit?>>23735671>They might as well just built a separate MSFor a simple testbed, proof of concept unit? Where in the world is building a completely new high performance MS compatible with newtype bullshit less expensive and more practical than just hacking together a new hip unit for an existing unit?
>>23735671It's just a testbed. It's common with actual modern product development. It's like the Starhopper to the Starship
>>23733227A GM/Jegan could easily receive modifications to accommodate those things. Probably a lot easier than the MP Nu, at that.It probably had a lot more to do with the generator output.
>>23737008You honestly think just using an existing MP Nu is harder than heavily modifying a GM or Jegan. Their frame wouldn't be able to handle it. You'd be right if it was something like the Jesta, since they made more of them and modding it would be much easier.
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>>23737136>You honestly think just using an existing MP Nu is harder than heavily modifying a GM or Jegan. Their frame wouldn't be able to handle it.Half of Nu Gundam's frame shares parts with the Jegan. Amuro designed it that way to save money and for Nu Gundam to be rapidly repaired on the battlefield without waiting for custom spare parts to be shipped from Anaheim. So yeah, a Jegan could probably be modified.
>>23737213Don't forget that the Re-GZ forms the core of the Nu
>>23737213Exactly, you'd essentially need to modify it to the point you'd turn it into an MP Nu, which is stupid when you could use an MP Nu that barely needs any alterations.
>>23736955It's more difficult to make the literal arms and legs of the Novel Penelope into detachable exoskeleton than to just connect those limbs to a body of a MP Nu.
>>23736751You can tell by the fucked up details and melting of parts that it's AI.
>>23733192So at what point do you call it a mobile armour?
>>23737277When the MS that's inside is irreversibly grafted in, or the only thing you can extract is some limbless escape pod
>>23737277When it stops being able to hold a beam rifle
>>23736080>>23736088>>23736094*snipes you from beyond visual range*Zanneck is the one true answer. This thing is on whole 'nother level. It's main gun is on par with the Wing Gundam's buster rifle but with no ammo limitations and greater range, it's fast as fuck, the base it flies on has a massive beam and it itself also has two beam shields. Finally, if you somehow get close enough, it also has missile launchers and beam sabers to fight you off.
>>23735773UC Next 100 project.They're animating everything they can that will fit into their future core UC timeline that covers the gap between CCA and Victory. I'll be interesting to see if they animate F90 and a new take on F91.
>>23743610or maybe instead they'll write 10000 OYW secret gundam plots
>>23736556>gaplant>non transforming
>>23736048Are you stupid? There are like 20 other Gundam stories they could have animated that are better than Hathaway's Flash. Even Tomino thought Hathaway's Flash was a bad choice.
>>23743610>They're animating everything they can that will fit into their future core UC timeline that covers the gap between CCA and Victory. I'll be interesting to see if they animate F90 and a new take on F91.Hathaway's Flash is already stretching the UC story to the breaking point. Zeon is already gone. It's literally operating on the fumes of CCA and strangely enough Hathaway doesn't want to talk about Unicorn or the Sleeves.
>>23744354The larpers who ultimately accomplished nothing? Not much for him to say as far as his own movement is concerned.I doubt Hathway would have much knowledge on the Unicorns themselves
>>23733192>MP Nu>no MP UnicornGlad they decided to ignore Unicorn
>>23744353>Even Tomino thought Hathaway's Flash was a bad choiceYeah but that doesn't really mean much. Tomino kind of hates all the stuff he did when he was depressed and only wants to make lighter, happy stuff now, even though the stuff he made when he was depressed was actually good and his lighter, happier stuff is actually varying shades of fucking shit, unfortunately.
>>23744354>StrangelyFukui fan-fiction shouldn't exist
>>23744366>The larpers who ultimately accomplished nothing?Mafty were more LARPers than the Sleeves were. >>23744383How would you mass produce a Unicorn anyway? Psychoframe technology is supposed to be really expensive and Unicorn uses it throughout the body, rather than just in the cockpit
>>23745058Mafty doesn't walk around with a literal char clone trying to prop up a Zabi, they're just terrorists, stupid ones but a different brand of ere chasers
>>23745089>Mafty doesn't walk around with a literal char clone trying to prop up a Zabi, they're just terrorists,How is this refuting my point? Sleeves are actual honest-to-God Neo Zeon remnants. Mafty are just a bunch of teenagers and twenty-somethings
>>23745111A lot of the Sleeves never served in Neo Zeon and that especially includes their leadership.You can't call Mafty 'larpers' if they aren't trying to be like Zeon begin with
>>23745122>A lot of the Sleeves never served in Neo ZeonYes they did. Least of all Purustitute. And some characters like Zinnerman were OYW veterans>You can't call Mafty 'larpers'Yes I can. They're just a bunch of kids. They're what it'd be like if Greta Thunberg and her Free Palestine flotilla had access to mobile suits They might not be LARPing as Zeon but they are LARPing
>>23745135>Yes they did. Least of all Purustitute. And some characters like Zinnerman were OYW veteransa lot isn't the same as all notice how you only named two, not even every adult in Sleeves are neo zeon vets >>They might not be LARPing as ZeonThen this tangent of your is irrelevant, why would Hathaway care about a failed zeek attack for a box? He isn't trying to be Zeon
>>23745200>a lot isn't the same as all notice how you only named two, not even every adult in Sleeves are neo zeon vetsAll the Garancieres crew are either OYW vets or vets of either one of the Neo Zeon warsJust because only Mineva and Marida (technically) appeared in previous works, doesn't mean the Sleeves weren't mostly Zeon remnants. They're not stated to be otherwise>why would Hathaway care about a failed zeek attack for a box?Because it was sort of a big deal, or supposed to be anyway
>>23745210>All the Garancieres crew are either OYW vets or vets of either one of the Neo Zeon warsThis is wrong, Gilboa wasn't and I'm pretty sure some of their staff are literally is too young to be i either war, the Graancieres is also only ONE ship, one that isn't really in the main Sleeves group.
>>23745210Full Frontal's royal guards are literally young boys in their early twenties, Sleeves are a mix of fresh recruits and people who got abused during the time period and then have the support of actual remnants.
>>23745135Gawman was an ex-EF pilot. Sleeves should not even be canon and is very gay
>>23745058>How would you mass produce a Unicorn anyway?Replace true NT-D with Bio-Computer, then it's cheaper and smaller
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>>23745451Pretty much sums up mid to late UC
