If the Psycho Frame was removed, do Unicorn Gundam still a powerful mobile suit?
Remember how oldtypes struggled massively to control it? With no psycoframe, it would be a pain in the ass to control for anybody.
yes because having magic crystals wasn't enough so Fukui also wrote that the unicorn has a miniaturized i-field, stronger servos than any other mobile suit and thrusters that can output enough force to push the Kshatriya back on a head-on collision
>>23734939Psycoframe literally enhances the output of the motors and the structural integrity of the frame. The Mobile Suit Archive entry for the Unicorn Gundams explains that the motors have psycoframe in them to enhance their function
The answer is right there
>>23734960yeah this franchise has side material coping for everything but is this stated in the actual novel/anime? its retarded crap anyway
>>23734888This. It would technically be a strong mobile suit since it's base specs are through the roof, beam magnum alone makes it better than most rivals. But it's portrayed as notoriously difficult to pilot in universe even before the newtype super powers
>>23734888>Remember how oldtypes struggled massively to control it? With no psycoframe, it would be a pain in the ass to control for anybody.This is such an old trope. They really need to retire it from Gundam.Muh..."we built s mobile suit so powerful that it kills most people who use it, and only a special pilot can control it!" trope.If anything, Unicorn Gundam would tear ITSELF apart long before killing the pilot. There are many examples in history where the airplane frame couldn't take the high G stress, and cracked. Sometimes on the first test flight.
>>23734827Magicless Unicorn would be a slight improvement over a magicless Nu Gundam.Beam magnum compatibility would still be a factor but it'd deplete it's power quickly so it'd still be something that can serve a role of being overwhelming in small scale battles or giving an edge in duels but in extended battles where you want your aces to be continuously contributing I'd see people opting for regular beam rifles, so it'd be like a slight better Nu.So great for the purpose it's made for, but wouldn't be so exceptional that you'd expect it to out perform Gundams of later generations.
>>23735270Magicless Unicorn would be a maintenance nightmare on the battlefield. Hundreds of motors and actuators would need to be checked and re-checked after every battle. Every single moving armor panel and sliding joint needs constant maintenance. Imagine trying to switch from Unicorn to Destroy mode but the faceplate gets jammed due to a damaged motor. Or one of the legs doesn't extend. Or of the boosters doesn't come out. This is the reality of warfare and Tomino actually uses this idea a few times with faulty equipment.I'm honestly surprised this wasn't addressed during the Unicorn anime. The Unicorn pretty much goes, what, 6 episodes without maintenance? I'm surprised it didn't breakdown at some point.
>>23735361Obviously the panels are moved by Psychoframe Newtype magic, crunching through all the dust and debris and bent locks
>>23735361>This is the reality of warfare and Tomino actually uses this idea a few times with faulty equipment. Honestly this is what's missing from modern Gundam. A sense of grittiness and realism. No I don't mean dark and sad. I mean realism. Like Unicorn never gets maintenance and no one should be able to give it maintenance because no one else except a handful of technicians at Vist Foundation should be able to repair it. Same with Gundam Seed. How come entire Gundams are able to lose arms and legs but then return to the mothership and are magically fixed by the next episode? Like you said, Tomino actually used the idea of maintenence in several episodes where MS mechanics said they were out of parts or it was impossible to repair some suits.
>>23735074The entire thing is magic in the novel/anime pal. There's an entire scene where they just go on about why they have no idea why psycoframe glows and it's just magic.
>>23734827>>23734827technically yes, reminder that it demolished Kshatriya's hands when its still in Unicorn mode, its basically has higher specs than Nu Gundam
>>23734960That's the most retarded thing made up by Unicorn side material. Ironically Unicorn was less OP in the novel than in the OVA. The director thought the power creep wasn't enough in the novel.
>>23736015This doesn't prove anything. Hands are delicate and machine crushing force is always superior. If Kshatriya had grabbed Unicorn's hands and crushed full force, then I'm sure it could also damage Unicorn's hands.
>>23736015It also pushed Kshatriya out of out the colony while in Unicorn mode and went through every obstacle that was in its way while doing it.
>>23737944That's not how space works.
>>23737926>If Kshatriya had grabbed Unicorn's hands and crushed full force,Oh yeah it can totally crush the same hands that punched through the neo zeongs armor
>>23738059The Kshatriya literally crushed a Rezels hand and head. So it's not like it's a big deal. It can do it too.
>>23735377I think AGE has a pretty good excuse for their gundams being easily repaired since they have the AGE Builder which probably could shit out spare parts en-masse
>>23738765But it couldn't shit out better MS for its ship's crew?
>>23738059That was powered by literal newtype magic. Not sure why you guys think psycoframe doesn't make MS physically stronger when it's literally able to just manipulate matter. The fully awakened Crystal Unicorn were just creating matter from nothing and regenerating after being partially vaporized. It has matter and energy manipulation.
>>23738772Unrelated but y'know the Newtype magic isn't the problem with Unicorn (MS and show). It's that Unicorn's design is completely not selling any power it has and there's no sublime narrative or emotional build up to Newtype crystal circus.
>>23738798>Unicorn's design is completely not selling any powerWot?
>>23738769it's too small to build entire MS. at most it's big enough to build limbs maybe, and then the mechanics would have to assemble new MS in the hangaralso as magical as it is, I don't think it can just churn out a working nuclear reactor
>>23738545You are comparing a mass produced to a gundam powered by newtype bullshit. Mind you unicorn also got hit with ksharts funnels beams and it only grazed it's armor. That's how durable the damn thing can be even without it's ifield active.
