how would other mecha universes fair against the BETA?
>>23738162BETA go BOOM
>>23738169i havent seen zeorymer. how strong are they?
>>23738170Bad guys are jobbers. Zeorymer, on the other hand, pretty much can't be fully destroyed, and its ultimate attack causes explosions that can be seen from space.Gets even more ridiculous if you bring Great Zeorymer into the equation. There's a reason it's considered one of the most broken (if not THE most broken) units to ever grace the SRW series, featuring the OG powers plus ALL the aforementioned jobbers' powers combined.Writing it feels so much like bad fanfiction, but that's how it is in this case.
>>23738162The BETA picked the wrong earth to strike
>>23738210Same anon but I also thought that for the five star stories cast it’s just extensive pest control
>>23738205it looks cool af its a shame the latest SRW only get boring ass mechas like code geass
>>23738170>zeorymer>how strongInfinite power.And if I'm remembering the manga right, that version of it has one single tiny weak point if you want to destroy it, killing the pilot by aiming for the cockpit doesn't even work.
>>23738170Zeorymer is literally powered by a different (higher?) dimension and can just vaporize everything that gets anywhere near it.
>>23738162Getter... Win.Any space combat advanced ones would intercept BETA transport in space.Mazinger ones... Interesting matchup. All the antagonists would join up against the BETA for sure. Actually Mazinkaiser, Great Mazinkaiser / Mazin Emperor G, Mazinger ZERO would be enough.VOTOMS - ironically ATs might be a better mass produced counter to BETA than TSFs. Except for the digger ambushes and the Dune worm parody, maybe.
Technically a mecha universe, and the BETA literally don't stand a chance. Try another universe where there isn't bullshittium technobabble and Vulcans/androids to save the day.
>>23738426>VOTOMS - ironically ATs might be a better mass produced counter to BETA than TSFsExcept that fully armed Scopedog's speed is 41 km/h (unarmed is 82.6 km/h) and a Destroyer (rushing shell fuck) class BETA speed is 170 km/h. But if there are enough ATs with piercing weapons, it's possible to not have to be on the retreat anyway.The point of TSFs is usually to kill off laser classes so air support is possible. ATs would be just rawdogging the main BETA forces and I'm not sure how much that's really feasible even if one TSF equals 100 ATs in cost and production time, for example. ATs might be even cheaper though?
>>23738442Oh wait, it's a universe question, not a "what if Earth was limited to the universe's technology"There are so many ATs and space combat capability that BETA would be fucked, no need to send in Chirico, even
>>23738214>>23738210FTL civs will find them annoying, but not that much of a problem.Though FFS specifically suffers from only having like six habitable planets only and VOTOMS from its comparatively weak ground forces.
Battletech isn't going to handle the actual ground fight well, but they have so many settled planets that as long as they don't land on Terra they're going to be fine
>>23738801With their laser spam they could fare well. Humanity in BETA Muv Luv suffers from ammunition problems in prolonged fights where platoons can get pressured into not resupplying. Also tabletop has some of the 'mechs be good enough for TSF tier melee and acrobaticsLaser classes will be harsh against the taller 'mechs tho
>>23738801>>23738809LAMs would do the trick
>>23738579Indeed, the BETA stand no chance
>sustained flight>durable beam shieldIf whatever universe has these, they will do fine.
>>23738170>Zeorymer touches balls>everything fucking DIES
>>23738170Zeorymer has infinite spare parts that it can bring from another dimension.Do you know how every mech's weakest point is its main pilot(s)? Well, not Zeorymer. If the pilots are destroyed, it can just bring in spares.Zeorymer is so overpowered it makes the bad guys (who are attempting to conquer the world) seem like decent people in comparison (and this is alluded to in the series itself).
>>23738968Isn't the MC of Zeorymer a rapist, also?
>>23738442How many BETA are there in the Earth invasion? Because there are billions of soldiers in the Balarant/Gilgamesh armies. Right before VOTOMS starts, 120 million die in a single battle.
>>23738969Yes. An icicle rapist.Imagine not only being raped, but being raped with an icicle. Fucking cold as hell while your insides are being torn apart.(to tell the truth, the girl he rapes is an android that he created)
Don't they not have FTL travel? Seems like a lot of settings could exploit that.
>>23738446Yeah aren't the factions in Votoms occupying and fighting across solar systems despite the lower tech mecha? There should be an absurd number of them.
>>23738801Nobody's going to enjoy the ground fighting, what with the swarming and all, but BT at least has the capability to prevent landings, to assault BETA hives on planetoids and to interdict launches. They also don't mind WMDs and can perform orbital bombardment when necessary and they have a mature orbital landing doctrine themselves.Their ground forces have a lot of firepower, so taking down the larger BETAS itself should be much less of a challenge than it is for TSFs. Seismic sensors are also standard on mechs.The main problem seems to be that the mechs themselves are a bit thin on AOE weapons, really, which exposes them to the smaller strains that probably do have the ability to chew up mech armour.
>>23739044>>23738801A mixture of hover tanks and 40 ton class mechs would probably be their best choice for ground operations and the old Hi-Scout should be able to keep track of BETAs.
>>23738918Gay.....
>>23738162NEXTs are just faster TSFs if you really think about it, with the big advantage being the ability to use Primal Armor to tank laser attacks and move exceedingly fast...and as a last resort they can always equip them with Assault Armor upgrade units like LETHALDOSE, at least at first.Besides ACs, stuff like Arms Forts would be able to hold down some positions with some Normal backup i'd imagine...probably as a defensive or rearming structure for ACs and other assault units. Also Kojimbo radiation dispersal using the Sol Dios and Answerer will be potentially effective at the start? Probably not later on though as they'd adapt to the new kind of radiation presumably.
>>23739215I'm more interested in other gens personally Gen 1 could moonlight spam and it actually has high firepower AC weapons (Karasawa melting Nineball Seraph in seconds, anyone?). Too slow for Laserjagd tho. Except if you mass produce Seraph maybe?Gen 2-3 ACs would be good enough replacement for TSFs because of overboost.Actually if using disorder units, Nexus suicide drone spam, or Last Raven proto-NEXTs counts, then it's easy mode.Gen 5 and Formula Front are high on unmanned weapons, they'd do great maybe.Gen 5 ACs might really be fucked since wallkick verticality is fodder feature for laser class. Kicks are risking getting swarmed. The speed isn't good but the ammo storages may be some of the best ones where hangar cores or tank legs aren't needed.Actually, if maxing thermal armor or kinetic armor (and some shield maybe) depending on the role will work well as much as it does in the games, it might not be so grim. Gen 6... Easy mode. Unless BETA merges with Coral. Oh lol fanfic bros?Gen 1-2, 6 universes also can into do space combat.
>>23738162BETA are possibly complete counter to anything in Evangelion including the Angels AND the tangLiterally just stack laser classes all over the horizon to rape AT fields
>>23739039Considering the average street hooligan can afford an AT or Armored car in Votoms, military hardware is probably highly plentiful.
>>23739228I guess in regards to 5th gen, their high defences and ammo would probably be the largest contributing factor to any kind of success they would have, I feel like though they'd be really effective in defensive positions like cities and the like since they're not nearly as fast as NEXTs of the time like N-WGIX/v...still, their mobility in said urban spaces would be extremely good since you can essentially have a (relatively) small target constantly darting around various buildings as cover, with their armor (presumably) letting them tank a few hits.Mass production of UNACs would be extremely effective for unmanned assaults as to not use up the available manpower, but also since 5th gen has stuff like essentially making clones of people/AI, you can consistently have good pilots out to fight with constant "human" learning and decision making. Well, assuming everyone is working together and using the tech from the Towers. Also 6th gen has essentially the same thing with AI.Oh and, technically they're rebuilding Motherwill (or maybe multiple? since the game called it a "Spirit-Class, I assume theres a possibility of multiple existing) the whole resupply facility thing I mentioned in my last post can be pretty effective too as a major deterrence against BETA assaults.Sorry for the blogpost, I started thinking about 5th gen a bit too much...
>>23739215Aren't Kojima particles extremely toxic and hazardous as well?
>>23739290Well, you gotta give up some to win some...
>>23738436When it comes to star trek, I seriously think the vulcans would have destroyed the BETA before making first contact with the humans.
>>23739290If they are hazardous to humans then they're hazardous to the BETA as well since they're also carbon based life forms. It isn't out of the question that they could evolve and mutate to resist the radiation but I say soak those bastards full of Kojima Particles and hope they develop cancer and die from it.
>>23738162They've got a bunch of tier 1 units and a handful of tier 2 units so they might be able to take out an ACU if they swarm it before it can set up, but once it sets up there isn't much they can do.
>>23739769I feel like the ACU has a good chance to just walk away unless it got really unlucky and spawned next to a bunch of Heavy Laser class. Even then it could just shoot them and probably walk away. A Laser Fort has the firepower to kill it, but I feel it'd be very squishy by Supcom standards if in range of the ACU's gun. The Supcom 2 ACU can tank a 100 megaton nuke though according to its game manual, so maybe it could take the Laser Fort's combined beam it used to wipe out the space fleet.It'll get swarmed by the Tank-class, but its standard nano-repair upon deployment can probably mitigate this enough I think. A swarm of Destroyers will try to ram it, but the ACU will be shooting them as it retreats to a better position which should thin them down.The pilot would need to be pretty incompetent, aka Fletcher, because a swarm of chaff is just free mass to catapult its army/economy. As you say, there's not much they can do once the ACU's set up. On the other hand, you always get some pretty shit pilots. There was a now very old Muv-Luv/Supcom quest on spacebattles called Luv and Hate that did a lot of interesting things on that front. It did buff the BETA significantly from what's currently shown for tension and focused mainly on interpersonal conflicts and eventually had QAI & the Seraphim gatecrash in to ruin everyone's party, though the main conflict was between the MC and his daughteru. Didn't survive Covid and some drama at the end though and I think the GM either likely just got bored of it, it got too complex or he lost motivation due to drama/life. Probably all of them. If you read all this concentrated Friday retard autism then cheers.
>>23739386Is this real?>>23739273>Sorry for the blogpostThis was entirely on topic
This can solo any mecha anime.
>>23741182I think your misunderstanding the tread, this is about how other mecha universe would handle the BETA from muv-luv
BETA are pushovers, way underpowered for most mecha settingsHow would your favorite mecha universe fare against a Bydo Empire invasion?
>>23741185>BETA from muv-luvThey would be reckt by the unicorn gundam alone.>B..but the beta can shoot laser..Unicorn can bend the laser and it won't hit
>>23741182I watched the TV edit of Unicorn two and a half months back, no it can't.>But time travel-Psychoframe resonance from Banshee a d Neo Zeong, not something that qualifies as a power proper.
Even without -THE- maguffin Cybertron is sending those bitches packing.
>>23739573They would probably piss off the Q Continuum at some point and get ejected to a quantum sub-universe pocket or some shit. Or just tossed in with the solanagen aliens. That'd be interesting.
>>23741182you must be some faggot that only watches gundam and nothing else. please never voice your opinions here again
>>23741636Can the Unicorn defeat 10^36 beta tho
>Universe vanihses
>>23738205>There's a reason it's considered one of the most broken (if not THE most broken) units to ever grace the SRW seriesit's really not. You could really only think this if you never played a modern SRW game. Zeorymer was only ever in games that didn't have ace bonuses or OP custom bonuses, let alone shit like ExC spam or supporters. Even by the standard of the old games, in J, Mazinkaiser and Tekkaman Blade gave Zeorymer a run for its money (and Tekkaman Hiver in W is pretty much just a better Zeorymer since its MAP is the same size, can be targeted, and doesn't have friendly fire plus she has an extra life thanks to her Pegas and has various friendship/love bonuses with other Tekkamen), and in MX it had some serious competition from Raideen as well (or at least it would if Raideen could God Voice turn 1 like Zeorymer can Meioh turn 1)
>>23738579votoms is a post-collapse decaying space civ. beta would fuck them up
>>23741636UC Gundam's in a schizo space here. They would largely be unaffected because 90% of the population lives in space tubes, but they also seem to have some quasi-religious affection for Earth, so BETAs taking the planet apart and shipping it off to make cups and cup holders from it would probably send them into a frenzy.>>23742724The polities of VOTOMS seem to stand decent chances of out-spamming the BETA, actually.
>>23738162DX + G-Falcon can solo>>23738170Beside what the others said, Manga Zeorymer is even more busted.It ate mega tons of nukes head on and it went undamaged.All of its weapons are OP one-hit-kill
>>23738162Unless theres either extremely high spec tech for the grunts like movie 00 or Macross or the Mecha is basically omnipresent like Elder God Demonbane it wouldnt fare any better than Muv Luvs.A thing a lot of people simplify with the BETA are their numbers and those aggressive numbers effect on humanity. Theres a lot of gushing about Zeorymar ITT and while the pilot may be fine millions of other people arent and theyd get gored and daily life would collapse.
>>23743274Zeorymer universe had lots of bullshit mechs though. Most would speedrun the BETA stabs/hivesAgreed on the point tho
>>23738251Heard Iron Saga is getting a Zeorymer DLC.
>>23746748https://youtu.be/sZkjoh9q1X8?si=1onqHadltjAlImQf
