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After they finish the hathaway flash trilogy.

Where will Sunrise go next?
Sentinel or Beltorchika child?
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They can't do Sentinel.
They won't do Beltorichka any time soon if ever.
Best bet is F90 or Crossbone
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>>23738755
I’d love both of those to be adapted
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>>23738745
Either Some garbage non-canon slop like Origin or more Unicorn garbage

Sentinel is a copyright nightmare
Crossbone is too long
F90 is unpopular and Banrise doesn't like late UC anyway
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>>23738745
AOZ animated movies
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Sentinel is in such a fucked up state, they can’t even put it in SRW.
Can it ever be unfucked?
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>>23738854
It was in SRW 4 and cut from Alpha 3, but units only.
Bandai can use the mechs but not characters
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>>23738856
And even when they can use the characters, they can’t use the story (G Gen).
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>>23738862
They should do a new story for them like how they used Xi Gundam and Hathaway in SRW V without using the story of Hathaway's Flash at all
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>>23738775
>Crossbone is too long
There are eight Crossbone series, the original could easily be made into a 1 cour or 2 cour anime.
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>>23738758
the issue with Sentinel is somehow Bandai doesn't own the rights to the characters, only the MS designs iirc.
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>>23738745
Sentinel story sucks, there's a reason people only remember it for the mecha and jokes
BC would be just CCA but slightly worse
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>>23738973
Just write a whole new story, with new characters, tell the author to fuck off.
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MSV-R OVA please
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>>23738745
Blue Destiny
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The next thing to be animated is OL Haman.
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>>23738745
Every time Bandai reprints Sentinel kits they sold out in record time. They don't need an anime to advertise Sentinel. The same is true for Crossbone.
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>>23738999
>Just write a whole new story, with new characters, tell the author to fuck off.

Unironically this no one cares about some short magazine story.
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Now that digital animation can capture MS detail a lot better than the past, Gundam Sentinel could finally be animated without much compromise.
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>>23738745
They did HF because it was a long anticipated Tomino work that acts as the epilogue to his initial Gundam Saga. Gaia Gear makes sense as the next step.
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>>23738745
Unicorn 2 obviously
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>>23738755
>They can't do Sentinel.
People say this, but I'm sure enough money would smooth over whatever difficulties are holding it back. We finally got SRW games released in the west, with a Macross series no less, people kept saying that was impossible too but it happened. Sentinel could happen too.
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>>23738745
If they're serious about UC Next 100, next up is F90 and F90FF. A series that incorporates Inle's story would be awesome
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>>23739285
>Now that digital animation can capture MS detail a lot better than the past, Gundam Sentinel could finally be animated without much compromise
It depends.

Gundam Seed Freedom looked good and fluid with its digital animation.

But Hathaway's Flash mecha animation looks so stiff.

So it really depends on which animation team is in-charge.
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>>23739586
They can buy it out, but there's really no reason to. As other anons mentioned, everyone cares only about mechs, not the story
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>>23739613
There's also Unicorn 2 which is probably going to bridge Hathaway and F90.
It'll be cool to see what Crossbone Vanguard suits were like before the Den'an Zon
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>>23738777
Banking on this most likely considering AOZ sells.
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>>23739444
Bandai/Sunrise dont own Gaia Gear, its in an even more difficult rights situation than Sentinel and at least one owner (Tomino) has zero interest in revisiting it
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>Ctrl+f
>Moon Gundam
>0 results

Very popular kit, the manga quickly swerves back into jerking off Char and Amuro and covers the events directly leading into CCA.

It's an obvious choice for either a series adaptation or movie trilogy.
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>>23739586
With Macross it wasn't about money but more Frank Agrama being old as fuck and realizing Harmony Gold lost far too many legal battles to let them lie their way into total ownership of Macross.
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>>23738745
An F90-F91-Crossbone series with each feeding into each other would be the next logical step considering they could season the shit out of it like other shonen anime.
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>>23739625
HF and Sneed treat mobile suits from entirely different perspectives so it works desu
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>>23739698
>everyone cares only about mechs, not the story
Then make a new story, people just want to see EX-S and MK-V in action and animated.

And these are some of the most popular gunpla hits of all time, Its sure to be profitable.
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>>23739902
I was reading it but it was extremely boring.
hardly any mech figths and the newtype autism was way too much
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>>23739976
>HF and Sneed treat mobile suits from entirely different perspectives so it works desu
But HF looks very stiff even for a UC show. UC still has suits be moderately flexible and fluid. Like the OG RX-78 diving behind rocks, or the Nu Gundam brawling with Sazabi.
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>>23739920
Crossbone now continues past Victory, and its setting is increasingly creeping up on G-Saviour's timeframe, meaning we may see the events which lead to the formation of CONSENT
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If cartoonishly stupid shit like G-cuck happened, then might as well drive off the cliff and give us a Walpurgis adaptation.
Give me my retarded fanfiction chuunikino and Over-on/Titania kits.
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>>23738745
according to >>23740387 the next entry would be Unicorn 2.
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>>23740770
Fuck off tourist.
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The Alice AI stuff in Sentinel would definitely be a story element to connect it with current audiences.
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>>23739625
>Gundam Seed Freedom looked good
Lul
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>>23739265
Also a lot of the plot points in sentinel were reused for Stardust memory.
People like Sentinel for the suits and maybe the Neo Titan faction that pops up. Fights are cool in theory
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>>23739586
>Macross
Didn't the inclusion of Macross Delta was possible because Bamco forced Harmony Gold to buy the distribution of Macross while Bamco bought the rights to distribute Robotech in Japan?
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>>23738745
Sentinel is next.
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>>23738745
Another Seed movie.
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>>23738745
>The Hummingbird, the Xeku-Zwei, the FAZZ and the Deep Striker all battling it out

It would be glorious
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>>23738745
Sentinel isn't next.
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>>23738745
Moon and Hi-Streamer up to the point where it goes into CCA movie.
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>>23738777
AOZ original had less story than Sentinel AOZ 2 is just too retarded to be adapted.
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>>23739707
>There's also Unicorn 2 which is probably going to bridge Hathaway and F90.
They did Narrative already, and I don't get how you can even top how ridiculous the ending to Unicorn was with time-traveling gundams, which would be the expectation of the sequel.
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>>23763735
NT was between UC and Hathaway
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>>23738745
They would have to make something completely original with it
Which is possible
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>>23763735
>I don't get how you can even top how ridiculous the ending to Unicorn was with time-traveling gundams, which would be the expectation of the sequel.
Narrative had dimension traveling ghosts. I think that tops unicorn in power scaling.
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>>23763990
Nah, we need a Quantum God MS with ZA WARUDO powers and the ability to see every possible reality, then always choose the one where it wins, moving so fast that it "frame skips" from spot to spot when seen by the naked eye
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>>23763873
God I wish.
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>>23764008
>the ability to see every possible reality, then always choose the one where it wins
So, Wing Zero?
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>>23768635
That's a brain computer interface. I'm talking actual quantum computing, accessing parallel dimensions, like what Banana went through, but now refined into a tactical advantage
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isn't Sentinel just an extended Bakumatsu metaphor?
the new desides are literally just the shinsengumi
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>>23739902
>Very popular kit
then there's no need to animate it, that's bandai's logic, see crossbone.
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>>23739222
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>>23739920
F91 timeline sucks and Crossbone is way too long and kiddish. late UC sucks in general, only G-Reco and Turn A were good, so the only logical move is to make a series about the end of UC (moonlight butterfly)
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I've notice a trend with modern Gundams. The new writers won't (or can't) write a Gundam show about new wars. We haven't had a show with actual full scale war in almost 15 years. All we've gotten are school settings, remakes of old UC anime, gunpla computer battles, VR, and maybe small skirmishes (like Unicorn).

It's like the Gundam. writers don't know how to write wars anymore.
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>>23772256
>writers don't know how to write wars anymore.
So, the entire franchise from the 1979 onwards?
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>>23772256
Because when was the last time any of these people fought, served, or experienced warfare?

Lord of the Rings was written by somebody who served in WWI and it shows. Tomino was a child but he lived through the blitz of Tokyo and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He dealt with the aftermath of Japan having to rebuild and the affect war had on his nation and his own family.

Not all writers need experience to write well, but boy does it sure help.
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>>23772269
Another issue that the writers don't even WANT to write about war. They want life or death battles, but in safe environments like arenas and schools. It's so odd.

>>23772256
>15 years
Wow I didn't even realize, but yeah you are correct. That's really sad. Gundam without war is almost insulting.
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>>23772256
>It's like the Gundam. writers don't know how to write wars anymore.
they know, it's just that they purposely avoid it cause those kind of stories are not in the trend anymore.
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>>23772269
>Tomino was a child but he lived through the blitz of Tokyo and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He dealt with the aftermath of Japan having to rebuild and the affect war had on his nation and his own family.
His memories about war is hazy and vague because he was a literall toddler when war ended. His family is wealthy and lives quite far from the warzone. To put this straight, he doesn't know shit about war.
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>Gundam trash
>Knows how to write about war
You faggots are hillariously pretentious
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>>23772110
Doesn't g-reco take place after Turn A?
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>>23772256
>actual full scale war
Isn't the only time UC actually had one was the original show?
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>>23772730
You are saying Zeta, ZZ, F91, and Victory don't count? Bare minimum the scale of those conflicts far exceed anything we've seen in the last 10 to 15 years from other Gundam shows.
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>>23772316
Yeah, Tomino's experience of war is second-hand at best. I read an interview with Takayama, who directed 0080, and even he realized he couldn't convey the realities of war, because he lacked the anger of a person actually involved:
>Years after directing War in the Pocket, I read Michihiko Hachiya's Hiroshima Diary. It's a record of a hospital director who treated survivors at Hiroshima Communications Hospital immediately after the atomic bombing, even though he himself was exposed to radiation. What struck me as most terrifying was the account of hearing the Emperor's radio address. We often hear testimonies describing reactions like "I couldn't make out his voice, so I didn't understand" or "Everyone was just crying". Yet, according to this diary, half-dead survivors were furious, shouting, "Why stop the war now? Keep fighting!" It was profoundly shocking. These seemed like emotions and words utterly foreign to the mindset of the post-war generation.
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>>23772754
>Yeah, Tomino's experience of war is second-hand at best.
Second hand compared to what? The soft modern japanese who haven't experienced any war in 80 years? Give me a break anon.
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>>23772750
>Gryps
Ragtag AEUG vs Titans shit.
>ZZ and Victory
A whole load of nothing until EFF came at the very end of both shows. There were obvious tragedies, but barely any actual war.
>F91
Local frontier colonies conflict that resolved itself before Earth Federation could properly move.
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>>23772759
I mean there's anon up there complaining about how modern Gundam writers can't write or refuse to write about war, because none of them have experienced it, while in the same breath glaze Tomino as if he has, when he hasn't and is just as soft and modern as everyone else? Like come on. Takayama at least has the self-awareness to realize it, while Tomino gives interviews about how Putin would never have invaded Ukraine if he had watched Victory Gundam and how Zelensky is a Newtype.
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>>23772779
>Putin would never have invaded Ukraine if he had watched Victory Gundam
But Tomino was the one who told to not watch it?
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>>23772791
that's outdated info, he likes it now.
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>>23772772
>Ragtag AEUG vs Titans shit.
The entire Federation was fighting itself. Plus random spacenoids joining in for fun. It was full blown civil war.
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>>23772796
>that's outdated info, he likes it now.
No. He said that he's old and doesn't want to look back anymore. He wants to try to have a positive outlook on life even if he isn't proud of some of his older works.

One of the reasons why he refuses to direct or involve himself with production of Hathaway's Flash. He feels that the story is too dark and has a depressing ending. He wrote it when he was in a dark place in his life. So he let's someone else handle it now.
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>>23772779
>Gundam writers can't write or refuse to write about war, because none of them have experienced it
Not exactly. Modern writers don't want to write about war but they also can't write about either. Tomino and several other older generation anime directors have said the recent generations has never experienced the tragedy or aftermath of war. So the modern generation tries to gamify everything to make it fun. These older anime directors specifically called out shows like Girls Und Panzer (girls driving tanks), Kan Colle (girls driving navy ships), and a few other examples as shows that are very offensive to them. A few called them disgusting because they disrespect war and treat it too lightly.
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>>23772820
>He wrote it when he was in a dark place in his life
no he wasn't, that was years later. not everything that has dark ending is because of muh depression.
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>>23772856
LOL.

Are you seriously telling Tomino that he's wrong, and you know his emotions BETTER than him?

You are hilarious anon.
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>>23772875
no retard, I am telling you.
tomino's depression and recovery was between Victory and BP/Turn A and it's documented in his book.
he did not have depression during hathaway, which you are implying was the cause for its ending. He already has a track record like in Zambot, Dunbine and Zeta.
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>>23772887
>Tomino is only allowed to feel depressed on these specific dates and no other times.

Some of you Gundam fans are so autistic. I swear.
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>>23772891
nobody said that retard.
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>>23772887
The book he wrote doesn't exclude other dates. He only mentions some notable times from his memory where he felt depressed.

Based on past interviews, Tomino started to feel drained and depressed in the late 80s and early 90s. Started during ZZ Gundam production, but Tomino pushed through because he wanted to make CCA and give Gundam a true conclusion. Then Tomino well into full blown depression when he found out Bandai wouldn't stop and demanded more Gundam be made.
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>>23772887
Nonsense.
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>>23772911
>Then Tomino well into full blown depression when he found out Bandai wouldn't stop and demanded more Gundam be made.
He literally returned to make F91 several years later and only crashed out during Victory when Bandai finally bought Sunrise, and then returned again to make Turn A. What a fucking faggot. Gundam was not his sole creation either, Sunrise as whole gave birth to the project.
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>>23772945
>He literally returned to make F91 several years later
1. Because he needs a job

2. He doesn't hate working for Sunrise. He hated that the higher ups only wanted to make more Gundam. Tomino wanted to Bandai to make new mecha anime. Not rely on Gundam all the time.

3. F91's production was messy and full of problems. Tomino and the higher ups couldn't agree on things and always bumped heads. It only got worse during Victory.

4. Tomino said they were obsessed with showing off the Gundam as soon as possible. The higher ups didn't the story room to breathe, and wanted to show off how powerful the Gundam was so kids would buy more toys right away. They were micro-managing Tomino which drove him crazy.


>Gundam was not his sole creation either, Sunrise as whole gave birth to the project.

I'm pretty sure Tomino owned the Gundam copyright at one point. He literally was the owner of Gundam for a while. Problem was that the Japanese copyright system sucks. It was extremely hard for creators to get paid, and get companies to honor their contracts and pay residuals (long term payments). Especially from toy sales. The Japanese companies would do everything they can not to pay creators from ignoring them, to hoping you won't remember, delaying payment, etc. It was hell for creators to be paid. The Japanese copyright system was flawed and screwed small time creators that didn't have political backing of a major studio.

I'll have to dig it up, but I believe Tomino said he's still owed money (many thousands of dollars. possibly hundreds of thousands or very low millions) from decades ago. It still angers him when he thinks about it because the companies refused to pay him or ignored him.

Tomino said he's done his best to move on and let it go. At least between Sunrise and Tomino there's a sort of peace agreement now. Bandai quietly funded several of Tomino's projects as a form of apology for not paying him decades ago. Like funding Turn A Gundam, G-Reco, etc
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>>23772963
>I'm pretty sure Tomino owned the Gundam copyright at one point. He literally was the owner of Gundam for a while.
Gundam started as a homage to Starship Trooper and Battleship Yamato, went through several name changes such as Gunboy. Sunrise and the sponsors decided to turn it into a mecha show since super robot was quite popular back then. Tomino was hired as the director later on. You can see the creator credits always have both Tomino and Sunrise. He never truly own Gundam and not the sole creator of it.
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>>23773006
he literally sold it to them for 300k Yen.
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>>23773006
>He never truly own Gundam and not the sole creator of it.
Wrong. Learn your history chud. Tomino owned Gundam. Then sold it to Sunrise.
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>>23773006
Nah anon. This isn't an argument you can win. Tomino owned the rights to Gundam at one point. Lots of people know this.
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>>23773015
>>23773023
>>23773043
>>23773006
>>23772963
IIRC Tomino was basically forced to sell. He owned rights to Gundam as the creator. But Bandai and Sunrise wanted 100% full control of the franchise to control all the profits.

So they basically told Tomino:
>"Sell us your gundam rights or we won't hire you anymore to create new Gundam anime. BTW we're only going to give you 300,000 yen (around $2500 dollars) to buy your rights. Decide now or get blacklisted."

Tomino had a family and children to support, and couldn't afford not to work or get blacklisted. He had no leverage and was forced to sell to Bandai. Which means Tomino gets nothing from sales of Gunpla and toys. Gundam sold billions of dollars worth of gunpla. By all rights, Tomino should be a multi-millionaire many times over. It's why Tomino was so depressed and bitter.
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>>23773015
>>23773023
>>23773043
>>23773103
Gundam IP was created by Sunrise execs and their sponsor, Clover. He is not the sole creator and has no business owning it. The whole " Tomino sold Gundam copyrights" was a misinformation and most of the articles on Japanese side containing that have been wiped.
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>>23773103
>Tomino was basically forced to sell. He owned rights to Gundam as the creator. But Bandai and Sunrise wanted 100% full control of the franchise to control all the profits.
It was the opposite. Sunrise owned Gundam and he was trying to steal the IP from them. Admitted in an interview.

>Copyrights were still unclear at the time, so when I made the third Gundam, I wrote the story so that I could properly obtain the copyright myself, and I made it with the idea of it being made into a movie.I created
this scheme while deceiving sponsors (laughs).
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>>23773118
How are you THIS misinformed, but still call yourself a Gundam fan? Tomino had commented multiple times about selling the rights to Gundam and being resentful about it because he feels he made a mistake.
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>>23773118
Tomino still had copyright ownership of Gundam that he shared with Sunrise. Sunrise bought Tomino's rights. Tomino still gets credit for creating Gundam, but because of the buyout Tomino gets no money fron merchandise sales.

Similar issue with Gundam Sentinel. Bandai doesn't fully own Gundam Sentinel and shares the rights with another company.
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>>23739586
>Money smooth it over.

Not really, the problem is the old guard in Bandai who had an agreement with (Grand Prix was it?) were already gone, so nobody in Bandai knew what the agreement was with Sentinel so the new Bandai execs just treated Sentinel as another Gundam IP which they felt insulted over or something. But now I think they are on better terms and are open to new things.
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>>23773128
>Similar issue with Gundam Sentinel. Bandai doesn't fully own Gundam Sentinel and shares the rights with another company.
Sentinel's copyright issues come from the fact that both Bandai and Sunrise didn't create its story content and characters. On top of that, Bandai didn't fully own Gundam in the late 80s, yet they commissioned Model Graphix to make a Gundam story, effectively giving MG their copyright.
This is not the same issue with Tomino. He was hired by Sunrise to direct Gundam for them. Sunrise created the IP, Clover coined the genre to be mecha. End of discussion.
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>>23739586
>People say this, but I'm sure enough money would smooth over whatever difficulties are holding it back.
Not if the other company demands that they get a cut of the sales profits, and not just a "flat payment". Bandainis very greedy and would refuse any deal that involves them sharing profits with another company.

Just look at what happened to their video game division. Look at the SDGO Gundam game. A very popular online game made by a Korean Game studio. Bandai had to share profits with them. The game remained popular many years with multiple servers across the world. Then Bandai shut it down for NO REASON and almost no notice. Then one year later Bandai created a shitty SDGO clone made by a Bandai game studio. So shameless. The game failed in less than a year.
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>>23773124
That's what he said, not the real history. Clover got bankrupted and suddenly the baldy pretending like it was his idea to come up with giant robots instead of power armor.
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>>23773135
>Bandainis very greedy and would refuse any deal that involves them sharing profits with another company.
Or you can look at what Makoto Kobayashi said and use it for speculation. The real beef is between Sunrise and Model Graphix. They wanted Sentinel dead and gone, ordering every artists who worked in the company during the time to never draw Sentinel fanarts and doujinshi.
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>>23773133
>He was hired by Sunrise to direct Gundam for them. Sunrise created the IP, Clover coined the genre to be mecha. End of discussion.
1. Repeating this over and over again doesn't make it true.

2. Creators still have rights. Tomino was NOT an employee of Sunrise. He was classified as a freelancer. Thus Gundam was not fully owned by Sunrise or Bandai. It was shared with Tomino.
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>>23773152
>He was classified as a freelancer.
He still is.
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>>23773152
Exactly. It's like when you hire a freelance wedding photographer to take pictures at a wedding. The photographer is the one that actually owns the copyright to the photos. Not the couple that hired the photographer. Tomino is a freelancer and was hired by Sunrise to create an anime. Sunrise and other sponsors may have funded it, but Tomino created it. Thus he gets the copyright.
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>>23773154
>Thus he gets the copyright
Until sold it for a $3000 dollars. Lmao. What a fool. Tomino should have held onto it forever. Or at least negotiated a better contract.
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>>23739285
>>23756810
>>23762788
>>23762792
I'll be real. Mobile suit designs that do not compliment human-like or even animal-like motion completely ignore the spirit of Gundam. Giant metal men killing eacother. At this point they should just create a new show about space fighters or something. Nothing wrong with that. I'd watch it. I simply think the principal mecha of Gundam should have simple, explicitly human proportions and locomotion.
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>>23773152
>Creators still have rights.
*laughs in Robotech*
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>>23773398
The Japanese Studio was paid good money to let Americans make Robotech. Theh can't decide 20 years later that they want to change their minds just because they regret it. A contract is a contract.
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>>23773515
You mean the same studio that doesn't own Macross in the first place?
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>>23738745
can the model even do that pose
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>>23773518
The issue you have is that the Japanese companies Tatsunoko and Studio Nue share copyright ownership over Macross. This has nothing to do with Americans. Tell the Japanese to get their shit together before signing contracts.
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>>23773522
He can do the pose.
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>>23773348
Part of me wants to agree with you but the rest of me remembers Dendronium Orchis and Neue Ziel being very fun to watch fight.
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They'll animate Crossbone Dust without doing the rest of the series.
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>>23775106
That's retarded.
They should do Ghost at least.
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>>23775136
Do you expect Bandai to make a decision that isn't retarded?
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Is The Sorcery of Nymph Circe, because I can't find it anywhere?
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>>23775271
Is it what?
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>>23775278
I must have developed aphasia with how often I drop words these days.
I meant to say is it out yet. I saw the release date is Jan 30th, but I can't find it.
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>>23775280
>but I can't find it.
go to japan or thailand to see it.
or taiwan since it's getting released there on 12th.
maybe chinkbros will finally grace us with a camrip.
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>>23775309
That explains things. Thank you.
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Why can’t they make a full series instead of a movie so that they can milk more money out of things?
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>>23738745
Finish thunderbolt......
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>>23775327
it's more profitable to make films than anime, which are mostly losses that get recuperated by merch and BD sales.
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>>23772288
>Gundam without war is almost insulting.
So what you're telling me is that
>CCA
>F91
>G
>X
>Turn A
Are all worse than Seed and Seed Destiny?
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>>23772256
>We haven't had a show with actual full scale war in almost 15 years
IBO was earlier than that. Using a banned WMD on Mars was pretty damning and full-scale to me.

>>23772269
>fought, served, or experienced warfare
Tomino never did and yet.

>lived through the blitz of Tokyo and Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Counts for 'experience' as much as watching footage of drones smashing into Dubai skyscrapers.

>>23772319
Right back at you.
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>>23779521
>Using a banned WMD on Mars was pretty damning and full-scale to me.
That's not what war means. OP obviously means formal war between two countries or nations.

>Counts for 'experience' as much as watching footage of drones smashing into Dubai skyscrapers.
Nah. Walking through the ashes and devastation of war certainly counts for something.

>>23779503
Do you understand what 15 years means?

Obviously anon was referring to Gundam AGE. The last show that had actually war between nations.
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>>23779790
Yeah, there is a huge difference between watching 9/11 on TV vs actually being in New York that day.
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>>23779800
It means Dubai influencers should be in charge of writing the next Gundam, got it.
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>>23780002
>Hathaway's Flash II but from the perspective of a BBL Latina baddie who ends up as a mobile suit pilot after her Sugar Daddy gets assassinated in Neo Dubai.
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sunrise tried in the past but probably abandoned work on it to make room for CCA and FSS. it makes me a little sad to think that there are physical cels of the S and Neros somewhere in some japanese guys attic
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>>23780212
Neat. But the animation style needs to be improved. Your photo looks too similar to ZZ Gundam and its cheap TV budget animation. Sentinel deserves some quality animation.
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>>23780217
Nothing they can do about that unless they hand it to a different studio team
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>>23780217
I thought ZZ had some pretty decent animation. Is it really that bad? I feel stupid now.
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>>23780217
ZZ looks great, its desert earth arc has some of the best fights.
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>>23780464
ZZ was made on a cheap TV budget. If it was made in 1990s (and they had serious money), then they could make Sentinel look more like 0083 or maybe CCA. Depends on the Directors preferences.

In one interview, it was mentioned that one reason Tomino didn't allow Char to appear in ZZ Gundam was that he wanted a bigger animation budget for the Char VS Amuro finale. He felt a TV budget wasn't enough to give their rivalry a proper conclusion.
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>>23780781
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>>23780784
ZZ was cheap for a mainline Gundam TV show. Bandai was earning billions of dollars in toy sales while the ZZ anime looked like this.
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>>23780788
>gif of a shitty washed up rip.
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>>23780879
ZZ is the third best-looking Gundam show after G-Reco and Turn A. That sexy 80s shading is in full force here and the fights are really fucking good.
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>>23780885
>sexy 80s shading
my favourite example of that is this yazan one, it really suits a bastard like him.
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>>23780874
It would have look better with a bigger budget.

>>23780891
Yet it can't maintain the look for half of the show. Corners were cut.
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>>23780902
>Corners were cut
that's almost every old tv anime (especially mecha), you fucking retard.
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>>23738755
Sentinel isn't really a "copyright nightmare", but Bandai just isn't willing to pay license to use Gundam, since they're supposed to own it. Obviously they prefer making something they'd fully own.

>>23738999
>>23739265
Although, yeah. They also seem to have an odd respect for the author, otherwise they could already have done an alternate "canon" version of Sentinel with a completely different story but same designs, they'd actually own.
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>>23780908
>you fucking retard
Wow. Don't cut yourself with that edginess.
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>>23780996
Most of /m/ is made up of underage ESLs who only respond to things with one sentence answers, and they don't know how to capitalize. It is incredibly frustrating and sad.
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>>23780781
At the very least it would’ve looked as good as the “All That Gundam” short made to tease 0080 >>23780217
ZZ has a bad art style? It’s not as eye wateringly good as 0080 or CCA but the close up details are great and it’s clear they learned a lot from some of Zeta’s coloring errors
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>>23781129
>ZZ has a bad art style?
Maybe not a "bad" art style, but the chosen art style definitely lends itself to having a cheaper budget.

- lots of still frames
- reduced shading
- outside of a few key battles, it's mostly limited movement in frames.

The character design is also very 1980s which dates the animation very hard.

Notice how as soon as Tomino got millions of dollars, the animation and art style changed completely for Char's Counterattack?
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Sentinel's story sounds way more interesting than Hathaway's. Kinda wish we were in that timeline.
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>>23738777
AOZ is literally just a library of a bunch of unproduced designs in-universe.
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>>23784291
I finished part 1 and characters are so bland except Roots and maybe Shin.
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>>23784266
>- reduced shading

Actually, it's more like shading too complex to keep it consistently, so you have the art reverting to no shading during many scenes with movement (not even just robot action, there are plenty of shots of the pilots without shading). One of the points of CCA's art direction was exactly being able to keep it consistently in all frames, which is why you don't see it going for heavy shading unlike a lot of 80s movies and OVAs. Tomino wanted an art style that could keep consistent shading all the time.
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