https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8xaRj1EqGQ
>>23751648It’s almost commendable how dedicated Takahashi is to make a worse secondary than his previous show.
>>23751648>>23751674Apologize to Takahashi's previous Rider 2.
Did Baku got possessed or did he just snapped?
>>23751774Probably a nightmare influencing his brain when he’s in an altered state
>>23751674What makes Nox bad? I think he’s playing the role great.
>>23751822The anon you're replying to is a shitposter baiting but Nox doesn't have much character due to needing to be criptic for the plot, the only secondary that's worse than him in the first half is Rinne because her actress' acting was somehow so bad even by toku standards that made her writing which was legitimately good simply not work at all, but Nox is pretty much the second worst
>>23751836Oh look, the schizo Reiyo and Gotchard hater is here.
>>23751836Obsessed schizo, you’re as bad as Nox
>>23751836I don't agree with that until we get the full reveal of his actions. He lives and dies as a character based on that if there is payoff to the mystery for the first half. They seem confident it will so we'll see.
>>23751851The only acceptable twist is that the "real world" is another dream and murdering people is actually freeing them. But that raises another can of worms as then it makes any murder, done by Nox and random criminals irrelevant. Almost justifying mass murder if those actions lead to people freeing themselves from a dream prison. Are serial killers doing people a favor? Do old people who die of age wake up? Or does it only count if Nox or a Nightmare kills them? It’s nonsensical, but that’s the only justification for Nox’s actions.
>>23751822He has the charisma of a rock and his retarded insistence on being cryptic just makes things harder for himself.
>>23751851>He lives and dies as a character based on that if there is payoff to the mystery for the first halfNot really, characters like this should not be too annoying but Nox sadly is by virtue of showing up and doing his schtick way too often.
>>23751860Has Nox even killed any civilians though? Anything the Nightmares do is reversed when tehy're killed. 5 and 6 are the only ones he's "Killed" and its clear there that there is something not right there.
>>23751903>Anything the Nightmares do is reversed when tehy're killedSource: my ass. Besides, Nox doesn't want the Nightmares to be destroyed, at least not until they fulfill their purpose, he has told Baku time and time again that he should fuck off and retire.
>>23751903Nightmares main goal is to destroy the world that was "ruined by CODE" which implies the death of everyone. He wanted a meteor to destroy the planet.
>>23751851That's why anons said "first half"
The twist will be that Da Lady is lying to Nox by saying the worlds destruction will bring people freedom, but in reality her definition of a "free world" is one where everyone is dead for real. Maybe CODE killed her husband and she wants to destroy everything out of spite. Nox thinks he’s saving people but he’s being lead on.
Funny how in just 2 episodes Five is a far more understandable anti-villain than Nox in 20. Also more likeable.
It was definitely intentional to not show Nox shooting the agents, but him saying "they’re in eternal slumber" definitely means he meant to kill them, regardless if there’s some weird shit where he didn’t actually shoot a bullet. Even then, you can just say it’s censorship to not actually show a bullet in a kids show.
What did you like and dislike about the episode?
I'm still not believing they're dead. It was just too unceremonious and it was off screen. That said, I won't deny I was going through feelings during some of that. This is the first episode I said out loud "YOU CAN'T END THERE"Castastrom had a great debut.
Fujos are gonna love this episode considering how much the average woman hates female characters
Why did he need a normal gun when he has his big orange gun?
What are your debut impressions on Catastrom?
https://mega.nz/folder/2QFTFKxJ#1qRPjOjMZjIrEAKt8NR2igI didn't hit download fast enough, so the missing bit of the episode are on the end. The live recording will be replaced with the proper upload when it's out.
>>23751951They wanted (you) to make it clear that he was aiming to kill them. Or at least give the illusion of it if something is fake
>>23751682I never disliked Keiwa that much since most of the time I forgot he was even there. Despite his heel turn being nonsensical, at least Bujin Sword was one of the best looking suits in the series and it only lasted like 5 episodes.
>no bouquet pics from either actorhmm
>>23751952CHAD/10
>>23751952Broly form>>23751959Exactly.
>>23751945Some good drama, but the show is starting to become JJ Abrams tier with its mystery boxes and vagueness. It’s wiggled the carrot for too long and it’s lost its appeal. I’m a fan of Agito, and that show avoided explaining shit for so long, but the meat of the show was the characters arcs developing every episode, and you didn’t need to know the twist to love their stories. The explanation of the world was secondary to seeing them interact and grow every episode. Meanwhile, in Zeztz, half the cast is incomplete until the mysteries are revealed, meaning that for half the show they’re stuck being one-note. The mystery IS the story rather than the mystery serving the story.Still, it’s not terrible, the plot beats are generally paced well. But I don’t like when stories keep teasing you, the payoff is never worth it.
>>23751682His edgy arc is still unredeemably ass an was completely pointless as the character remained the same before and after it.
>>23751945It's been a while since we've had a primary rider go through a mental breakdown arc it feels like. At least a good one. Props to Baku's actor. Five and Six are definitely not dead, though I'm getting a bit annoyed at Nox and hope he rightfully gets his shit rocked soon.
This episode just left me going "huh?"I just want things explained already.
>>23751933Well its because there is no nuance in his actions. He's just following orders because he thinks CODE is right.
>>23751945>Nox just kills two motherfuckers WITH A REAL ASS ACTUAL GUN>Baku starts noselling Nox and says "I'll break you"This is the good shit. This is what I watch Rider for.
>>23751990>It's been a while since we've had a primary rider go through a mental breakdown arc it feels like. At least a good oneGavv was last year.
>>23751951Real Gun > Orange Gun when you're trying to make a situation seem serious
The Lady will get Minami...
>>23752022seems NOX! is gonna get humbled a bit next week but still, Baku having this much doubt about letting the obvious asshole live just feels forced.i get it, Baku believes in a righteous ideal and believes killing is wrong, but there are limits to this, but leaving aside the Meteor strike, said limits were reached a LONG time ago.But nooooo..... NOX! is supposed to be a hero too, he definitely is playing the long game in the name of CODE, hence why he killed 2 of his comrades, he will totally join forces with Baku and join the silly fun, right? that is such bullcrap is not funny. the only reason Baku doesnt kill him is because the story, or more specifically: Toei, wants to make him a Hero. and that just doesnt work here.i want to believe Takahashi is still aware someone like NOX! doesnt deserve redemption and pays for all his crimes and that Toei at least allows him to kill the fucker as it should have been already.
My favorite Takahashi trope is the protagonist breaking to the point he has fight without mercy, Geats was the only that didn't have this because Keiwa was supposed to be the protagonist, I'm still mad about Takebe forcing Takahashi to make Keiwa retarded because he was "too sympathetic"
>>23751945One of the best episodes of Zeztz so far, this is the first time I found Nox to be kind of menacing as a villain (even though it's obvious he has a hidden agenda that'll redeem him), Baku's dilemma was believable imo, I liked the cops' reactions this episode and the mystery has me grippedMy only complaints are that I don't like the trope of a debut fight being interrupted to end in the next episode and that we didn't get to know 5 and 6 long enough for their fake deaths to hit emotionally despite the emotional direction being strong
>>23751951
>>23751952Nox pulling out a real ass gun got me laughing
>>23751945I liked 5 going for an untransformed finisher, and Nox doing it too.
>Rita immediately dies on her first mission>7 goes up the building to the roof normally, despite having MULTIPLE forms that could fly, scale the building far faster, or get to the top at LITERAL LIGHTNING SPEED>this lets five die too>catastrom is literally just giga niggabig oof on this episode. Nox pulling out a fucking gun was pretty funny though.
By the way, just want to remind everybody that a bunch of children are still trapped in the nightmare void or whatever that is.
>>23751911>Source: my ass.It's been shown multiple times, and was literally stated at the end of the battle royale two-parter. At least pay attention if you're about to bitch about the show every week.
>>23752150Baku is not really the same person as Seven in the waking world. not to mention he was distraught about how CODE wanted him to kill.it is understandable for him to not use the capsems at the moment, also, remember that the capsems work alongside Baku's own state of mind, he probably wouldnt have been able to use them anyway even if he wanted.
>>23752098>NOX! is supposed to be a hero too, he definitely is playing the long game in the name of CODE, hence why he killed 2 of his comrades, he will totally join forces with Baku and join the silly fun, right? that is such bullcrap is not funny. the only reason Baku doesnt kill him is because the story, or more specifically: Toei, wants to make him a Hero. and that just doesnt work here.I like how some of you are getting pre-angry at stuff that hasn't even happened yet. I also find it funny that Nox sucks because he's cryptic, but taking his actions at face value. He's also clearly not meant to be a hero yet.>>23752098>i want to believe Takahashi is still aware someone like NOX! doesnt deserve redemption and pays for all his crimes and that Toei at least allows him to kill the fucker as it should have been already.Again, not sure why Nox doesn't deserve an attempt at redemption especially the reason and exact specifics of is actions aren't known to us yet. Rider is filled with characters who did way worse that have been turned to heroes.
>>23752156There's a difference between a magic dream virus disappearing alongside the Nightmare it came from and undoing literal deaths and serious injuries caused by the Nightmares' actions. Not to mention the little detail that a fuckton of Black Cases had been reported in the months before the start of the show, when Odaka became Nox and before Baku became a Rider, retard. Oh, and there's also the little fact that Fujimi mentioned unsolved cases such as mysterious deaths and disappearances when introducing the concept of Black Cases to Nasuka, or do you think all those people got magically resurrected and Fujimi just forgot to mention it, retard? I guess you just didn't pay attention, retard.And did you forget the part where Nox hates the fact that Baku comes in to stop the Nightmares? Or the fact that Nox wanted Nem's dad to take his own life?
>>23752229Can't say I like the bad-on-purpose greenscreen effect
>>23752157Holy cope.
>>23752237It's not bad on purpose, it's just bad.
My biggest disappointment about Nox is that despite it having teeth and the shape for it, the Breakam Buster is not an orange chainsaw like the Lego piece
so we know the Nightmare that is the source of Zeztz powers and looks like for the front, but you think someone could post scenes of its back side in this episode?
>>23752173>I like how some of you are getting pre-angry at stuff that hasn't even happened yet.He will become a good guy, it's a given at this point.>I also find it funny that Nox sucks because he's cryptic, but taking his actions at face valueActions speak louder than words, which is why Nox committing a bunch of evil actions makes his vague indignation over CODE's evil actions ring so hollow. And him being sad about doing evil things is not going to cut it, because you can complain while committing evil acts all you want, you're still willingly doing those evil acts despite that.>He's also clearly not meant to be a hero yetThe show is trying to make him out to be as someone who's vaguely sympathetic and does have a point, but his actions and the way the whole character is executed make it really hard to see him that way.>Again, not sure why Nox doesn't deserve an attempt at redemption especially the reason and exact specifics of is actions aren't known to us yet. Rider is filled with characters who did way worse that have been turned to heroes.You say that like we think every single one of them had a justifiable and well-done redemption. That's the main concern with Nox, the more shit he does the harder it is to give him a good redemption that could possibly justify everything he's done so far without him coming off as genuinely evil (in a way the show clearly didn't want us to see him as, given his perpetual sad boy face and his reactions to The Lady's evil gloating) or retarded, or having to pull off a bullshit twist that undermines many parts of the show.
>they can use finishers in their civilian formI feel like they'd lack the arm strength untransformed, but whatever it happened.
>mags prime everyone up into thinking the lords would be next set of antagonists that Baku would team up against with Nox as per formula>everything CODE has done so far has been reasonably utilitarian>everything Nox does endangers and ends lives of the many>3 is a bit of an asshole but the first thing he orders Baku to do when a retired agent is compromised is to go protect her>Nox motherfucking kills 2 of the lords with a non-magical 9mm before either of them even fights Baku, his boss casually kills Zero too for good in the same episode>there are still niggas saying it's all part of Nox's actually good master planI'm more convinced than ever that Nox is legitimately deranged ala Leo's wife in Inception and won't stop because it'd mean all the shit he pulled was for real real.
>>23752299I was on the side that maybe NOX was some deep double agent type against the Lady, but not after killing 5 and 6.
>>23752300eh, he still has the recovery capsem and the erase capsem (despite the supposed fact that three had it now?), he could be playing silly buggers and fudging things around.
I kind of hope Nox is irredeemable and gets Kusakaed, but I'm worried how they'll write the face turn asspull.
>>23752340Same. If it were up to me I'd write his arc about not being able to accept his failures and the harm he's caused and that he thinks he can redeem himself through Lady's scheme to rewrite reality using dreams. Perhaps I'd make it a little greyer by revealing that CODE did in fact pull the same thing before and that what Baku dreamed about was the end stages of that effort but Baku fights Nox anyway because even if the world they live in now cost a previous iteration of the world that doesn't justify Nox pulling a Warrabit and erasing them all to satisfy his own ego.
>>23752340They don't have the balls because Bandai will step in and remind them that they need to sell toys.
>>23752360They been selling more villain toys lately.
Honestly alot of kamen rider series would end faster if the antagonist shot the rider when they aren’t in their suit
>>23751945Like:- Catastrom- Nasuta's bouncing- Nasuta breaking- The Mao Nightmare- CODE destroying the world or doing false flag attacks to traumatize children is interesting.- I always like when there's fights in human form before the Riders transform.Dislike:- Baku is retarded. There was no reason to not go with the agents, specially if he doesn't want Nox dying. It would have been exactly the same, the agents could have died in a match between Nox and the Nightmare vs. CODE,without the sour taste of having the MC's transformation ruined by a logic that's hard to emphasize with.- The agents deaths were totally avoidable and way too forced.- CODE destroying the world or doing false flag attacks to traumatize children is retarded.Basically a lot cool things that are great individually but in perspective, they are part of a huge mess.
What gun does Nox use? Walther PPK?
>>23752405/k/ommando here, if you can get me a reasonably clear picture of the gun I'll tell ya.
Why didn’t nox just sweep the leg? With that build, it going to take a while to get back up
So am I getting this right? Back when Baku was a baby a Nightmare caused an apocalypse, CODE then used reality bending powers to fix the world and The Lady wants to cause another apocalypse to achieve said reality bending powers?Then NOX wants the powers to himself to create a "good reality" which is why he was still fine with following The Lady's plan of the meteor destroying millions and beating the crap out of the two agents to fake their deaths? Basically he just thinks he can revive everyone?
>>23752529So he's basically Nox from Wakfu? Will his plan backfire as fucking badly as that Nox's?
>>23752403>>23752529>CODE destroying the world or doing false flag attacks to traumatize children is interesting.>Back when Baku was a baby a Nightmare caused an apocalypse, CODE then used reality bending powers to fix the world and The Lady wants to cause another apocalypse to achieve said reality bending powers?Did I miss something explicitly being shown or stated in the raw or you guys just going ahead with speculah material because it makes sense of Nox's actions?
>>23752534Thank you for reminding me of Wakfu. I loved season 1.
>>23752544It's speculation but this bit>Back when Baku was a baby a Nightmare caused an apocalypseis implicitly shown in the episode, unless it gets revealed that the baby is someone and Baku was simply mistaken when he assumed it was him
>>23752544Speculation, but I think at some point Nox mentioned CODE messing up the world and that he will fix it.
>>23752529>>23752577The reality destroyed and gravity being fucked could just be symbolism from dreams, not actual events. Baku still grew up with a sister and lost their parents at a later age.Also, Nox from Wakfu’s plan involved time travel, not dream or reality shattering, and his justification is that he would just erase any wrongdoings he did by changing the past. But he also said he didn’t care about the world if his plan failed, as it could burn down for all he cared if his family wasn’t in it. As spiteful as our Nox is, it doesn’t seem a dead family is what haunts him.
>>23752534>Will his plan backfire as fucking badly as that Nox's?No, because Zeztz isn't nearly as well written as Wakfu.
>>23752299>agree with everything a morally gray organization is doing because it's ultimately to save the world>get abandoned once because you're a fucking jobber and can't do shit despite having Erase, one of the most broken capsems>fucking hates code now, the world must suffer as a consequence
>>23752340Even Kusaka was starting to mellow out before he died, he just died as a result of his earlier actions catching up with him.
>>23751648I still feel nox is too overtly antagonistic for baku to have any real conflictions with code. Every time they meet nox is helping out a nightmare eat orphan babies or something whilst going "actually YOU'RE the bad guy", it just makes baku look like an idiot for believing him. I get baku having issues with outright killing a man but he should at least be ok with the idea of taking him down, especially since he barely even knows the guy. also why'd they give the disaster nightmare such big lips
You guys think Nox pulled out a real gun because you can only kill people with objects that are in their reality, and the Rider paraphernalia only affects dream individuals such as Nightmares and transformed Riders?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iy2MGnqVx0Epsiode 22.
>>23752486This is probably the clearest one I've seen.>>23751951
Why did the despicable, terrible and completely unforgivable CODE do this to 5 and 6?
https://x.com/maoooon777/status/2023017125686956526
>>23752921how do I download this? nothing works!
>>23751953updated
>>23753032Kek
>>23751947yeah all the cut aways scream "magic bullets that put you in a death like coma" or some such
>>23751952I hate fake muscle suit forms in general. At least he seems to be a lumbering idiot when using it.
>>23753051What have you tried?
>>23752262Looks like Kiva Emperor.
>>23752544>>23752627Kureha mentions Baku's dream at 5:57, and Five replies to that indicating that it's supposed to make Baku special in some way and he doesn't see it. There's at least strong implications that the apocalypse dream was in some way real.
>>23751682
>>23753170I'm surprised how much Takahashi likes this trope, although when Ex-Aid did it was a movie rather than I'm the show
>>23753191Reminder that Tanuki's are killed for their fur which is used to make "faux fur" coats
>>23753248I mean so were foxesAnd I guess bulls are still used for leather.Cats probably not so much.
>>23752921someone uploaded the full episode version over here, though its still hard subbed.https://nyaa.si/view/2076912
>>23752233>There's a difference between a magic dream virus disappearing alongside the Nightmare it came from and undoing literal deaths and serious injuries caused by the Nightmares' actions.Yes, and it's shown to be the case before. If you wanted to nitpick, you should have pointed out the discrepancy between the amount of unsolved cases before instead of harping about a mechanic that's already been explained.
>>23751945>What if we stop the monster but CODE turns out to be evil?Baku is dumb as a brick. Catastrom is cool though.
This is why we can't have nice things. Zeztz hasn't had a single bad episode but retards keep complaining with their shit takes, and somehow even bigger retards think Kureha is actually dead lmao. The nice thing about toku is just because you're "killed" doesn't necessarily mean you're dead
The most kino part of the episode
>>23753543>Zeztz hasn't had a single bad episodeIt has had very few really good ones as well.
>>23753543Just look at how much people complained during overpaying a lot of the bad things when the only really bad aspect were the villains and final episode, which would be fine if it was just their opinions but if you say you like the show anons will say you shouldn't like it and if you say you don't like Gavv then people will get overly defensive on the other endThe internet has gotten way more annoying these past few years
>>23753362What are you arguing about? Nightmare kills aren't undone, your implicit mechanic that was never stated by the show doesn't actually work the way you think it did (not everything the Nightmares do is reversed when they're destroyed, the effects of their powers might, but not the deaths they cause with them), you're the one who didn't pay attention, you're still wrong, you're still a retard.
they are not dead, they are in the dream world, remember the giant butterfly pollen and everyone fell asleepits just nightmare inside another nightmare like some inception crap
>>23753543Post your "good" takes and prove you're not a retard then.>>23753694You're talking to an overly defensive fag who instead of explaining why the episode was good just calls everyone with criticisms a retard with shit takes.
>>23753678When was the last time we had out of suit finishers?
>>23753704I don’t think Toei has the budget for a post-apocalyptic “real” world to make that idea feasible. Same way they had to skimp out on the Granute World in Gavv or barely feature the 2068 era in Zi-O.
Holy fuck that episode sucked, what is this show even about anymore? Nothing makes sense Nox is just evil because uhhhh he just is okay!!! Baku is a fucking whiney retard now instead of a steely cold detective they killed of 5 and 6 for basically no reason other than uhh cause nox is bad??? Duh. Jesus fuck what a shit show this season started off so good and now it's a steaming pile of shit. I haven't been this disappointed by a Kamen Rider series since wizard. Everything seems so pointless and meandering like they're just making the plot up as they go along. We're halfway through the season and nothing has been developed. >No justification for Nox being evil >No explanation what the fuck the capsums or nightmares even are>No explanation for Nem>CODE still hasn't been explained whatsoever What the fuck is going on with this show Jesus Christ, and the special effects are so fucking bad they were fine in the earlier episodes but the scene where he goes into his subconscious you can see the debris moving independent of the floor like they didn't even bother to keyframe it right what the fuck is this shit
>>23752297The suits were at the dry cleaners ig
>>23753829We're supposed to keep glazing it for the whole week until the WebMs from this one and 23 get batch dumped
>>23753865Kill yourself.
>>23751648>>23751945Finally watched the episode, it wasn't nearly as good as I was expecting from the previews. Five and Six didn't really bother hiding the fact that they're Secret Agents from civilians, and their dynamic is pretty similar to that of Fujimi and Nasuka's which I think might be intentional. I don't like that Kureha brought up that past memory thing to Baku basically out of nowhere just to move the plot along. Also, we got an interaction between Minami and the cops, but it was really short.I get and tolerate the fact that Baku was hesitant about the plan to kill Nox, especially since it was meant to be subverted at the end of the episode when Baku finally had enough of him (though I'm not too happy about that because they're clearly gonna go for the angle that Baku's being influenced by his evil Nightmare and that hurting poor baby boy Nox is bad no matter how much he deserves it), but the fact that he didn't bother to at least confront the Nightmare when it showed up to terrorize the city felt really contrived. Baku's supposed to care about human lives, but he prioritized sulking about CODE's plan to kill Nox over saving the people that were being endangered by the Nightmare that was summoned by sacrificing a bunch of children who will remain trapped inside it until it's destroyed (I don't like the fact that they didn't bring that up at all in this episode even though it was literally part of the cliffhanger of the previous one, not even to make Baku feel worse about failing his mission). I did like his and Nasuka's breakdowns over Kureha's death, props to the actors for really selling those expressions of dread and powerlessness.(1/2)
>>23754354I was kinda expecting Kureha's death to be a fakeout from the get go, and for a moment I thought they would kill Five off instead as a twist, but when I saw that Nox "killed" the both of them (off-screen, on top of that), I was fully convinced it was all a fakeout. The fact that it's such an obvious fakeout does take away from the drama and stakes of this episode, but at the same time I think that killing off Six and Five so soon would've been a waste of their characters, so I'm kinda conflicted about this. Man, I really like Five and his passionate expressions, you can tell he really cares about Six and the world, I hope he comes back soon. As for Kureha, I still think she's a character who's mostly interesting because of her background and plot implications, her actual personality and dialogue are pretty plain so she's not very entertaining to watch.Speaking of Nox, he just did his usual schtick of going on cryptic rambles that no one understands and doing horrible things while claiming it's all CODE's fault. What a dull and annoying antagonist, I'm frustrated that they ended the episode right in the middle of his fight with Catastrom, I really wanted to see him get fucking destroyed.Nem's fancy outfit and hairdo really didn't fit the dream's catastrophic scenario. I also want to comment on the fact that they built her up to finally do something useful with her powers, only for it to not matter because the villains still won in the end, and then she went right back to being a useless damsel in distress. God, how much do I wish Minami was the main Heroine instead.They also teased last week that there would be big reveals, but this episode was just more vagueposting that only introduced a brand new mystery, let's see if the next one actually has a substantial reveal. Also, I have the theory that the baby that was in Baku's dream might not be him, but rather Nem. Let's see if I'm right or not next week.(2/2)
>>23754364Also, I wonder what's gonna take for Three to finally transform, they just downed two of his Agents and the remaining one is being possessed by a Nightmare, but there's still no sign of his Lord form yet. Maybe they're saving it for the eventual raid to the CODE HQ.
>>23754364Yeah the whole episode basically didn't reveal anything, and accomplished nothing plot wise it didn't make much sense at all. No character development or plot development like you said just more vaugeness. The vauge stuff was fine in Agito when you at least had charecter development to back it up but if anything Baku has regressed as a character and his morals and motivations seem confusing at best anymore and Nox just seems to be a dick for the sake of a show to have a villain. We still have no idea who the lady is, or why she's against CODE at all. Also they said Zero wasn't actually the robot dude he was just using it like a puppet so where the fuck is zero? Like he hasn't been mentioned since 3 took over but like what the fuck is he doing for the past several episodes it doesn't make any sense. Incredibly frustrating and disappointing episode with all the build up for some major conflict and big reveals and twists and it's just more of the same convoluted nonsense
>>23751682Keiwa wasn't there yet. He just needed one more push after he got Bujin Sword to become the perfect secondary rider.
I want her to become a Taku-style character while Fujimi becomes this show's Tachibana
>>23754364>I was kinda expecting Kureha's death to be a fakeout from the get go, and for a moment I thought they would kill Five off instead as a twist, but when I saw that Nox "killed" the both of them (off-screen, on top of that), I was fully convinced it was all a fakeout.I'm pretty sure they're both dead for real because Three's suit is repainted from Five's, which was repainted from Nox Knight's, so they probably only have one suit. That's also why Three hasn't gotten off his ass yet, they outright didn't have a suit for him until Five was killed off, and having Five not transform in this episode meant they were doing the repainting that week.
>>23754796Both their actors are listed as main cast members instead of guests, but neither has officially wrapped up filming yet.
>>23752757Nox was about to shoot Five down with the Buster before Kureha intervened, he definitely pulled the real gun just to make the scene more dramatic.
>>23754796>>23753849I was just joking here but holy fuck imagine if that's the actual case, they didn't have them transform because they needed the suit after he was dead and done with it lmfao
>>23753698My apologies. I'm so used to arguing with people week after week about certain plot points I must have misread your post somehow. Sorry about that.
>>23753678Would've been more kino if Five had won instead of Nox.
Total Nox victory
I can't wait for Nox's keikaku doori moment and make all the retards look like bigger retards
>>23755881Yeah, the Nox defenders will look like even bigger retards once it's revealed that his plan makes little sense and is fucking stupid.
>watching anything the Japanese made for the quality of the writing???
>>23756244Yeah because modern western writing sure is better than modern japanese writing right?
>>23756244>on a site literally called 4chan whose mascot is a manga character>why are people watching japanese media? what's worse is that there hasn't been any good western /m/ media besides indie games that you most likely haven't even played
>>23751945I've seen it said that Takahashi's working backwards from his planned twists in plotting the series.and this episode definitely gives that theory some credence. It definitely explains how things developed from Nox's cryptic actions early on to one of the most telegraphed fakeouts in recent memory. Albeit a very well acted fakeout, and one that still managed to hurt despite the little screen time 5 and 6 had.More so than the gut punches and heartbreak, it was great to see a more nuanced side of Fujimi when he reassured Minami and Nasuka. He may be a clown at times, but he's still got a good heart, and it's good to be reminded of that.Catastrom's debut was well directed, and the first time Move Take It didn't seem out of place. I enjoyed that it was more of a single-minded tank than outright mindless berserker. I hate how they cut the fight though. Of all the times to emulate early-Heisei, that was not one of them.>>23754354>but the fact that he didn't bother to at least confront the Nightmare when it showed up to terrorize the city felt really contrived.I wish they had thrown in a direct line about his failing to save the kids playing into his breakdown. You think being rendered helpless in the dream world and having to fight the Nightmare in reality would be enough, with Nox's potential execution compounding his distress. Even when he freaked out when Nox depowered him, he still took responsibility for failing ontop of blaming CODE for choosing him, so it's really disappointing it didn't come up at all. Hopefully it's at least addressed next episode.
>>23754364I also want to add that I still wish Kureha had shown up earlier in the show, her and Five having more screentime before their "deaths" would've made them hit harder.
>>23756433Imo we should have gotten Kureha's episode instead of the meteor episode in order to have Nasuka do more since after episode 9 she doesn't accomplish much, also because the meteor episode is one of the main reasons why people hate Nox not giving any reasoning to Baku as to why he's being cryptic to him
>>23756501Everyone loves being vague and cryptic to Baku for whatever reason. Closest he got to finally learning things was Zero propping up his death flag before being gored by Nox. His entire inner crisis could get resolved if literally fucking anyone from CODE or Nox just explained shit to him because it seems like he's the last to know everything but aways has to suffer the consequences of nobody wanting to bother explaining shit to him
I still believe in Nox.
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>>23751845>>23751850Samefag
