Wing Zero TV >>>>> EW ZeroI'm so fucking tired of EW Zero being slapped everywhere.Everytime I see EW Zero on SRW games I release a big fat sigh.give some love to TV Zero
>>23767971This for TV DSH too.
>>23767971G Gundam was the last time Katoki made something good. After that, he went out of steam and made slop eversince. EW Wing Zero is ok-ish, but the rest look so terrible, especially Altron. I cannot stomach EW Altron.
I'm tired of Katoki in general. I thought he was great back in the late 90s/early 00s because he gets what makes a three-dimensional model look good, but once his style became the standardized look for Gundam, the individual character of a mobile suit got sanded down and lost. Think of how different the faces of the Okawara/Yasuhiko Gundam and Fujita Gundam Mk-II used to be, but now when people think of them, they think of a version that has the same boring old Katoki face.
>>23767971I like everything on TV Wing Zero, except the transformation mechanism of its feet. Regular TV Wing's feet simply have them to point outwards a la ballerina when transforming into Bird Mode, so why they didn't design TV Wing Zero to do the same? If it's not broken, don't fix it.
>>23767971I don't like how big the wings and gun is on the RG
>>23768030People who like Katoki mostly cling onto his prime in the 80s - early 90s. He arrogantly removing the unique feature and proportion of every gundam and ms he has redesigned to the point you can get tired by looking at them. The younger generation of designers is also ripping him off, creating this insufferable decline of mecha design in general.
>>23768046Because feet looks stupid on bird mode.
>>23767971EW Zero is kinda pretentious in its design but it's the most popular for a reason. The wing gundam getting actual wings with feathers looks cool as fuck
>>23768134Because Endless Waltz is such a beloved OVA and the scene where Wing Zero custom appeared was strangely romantic. It is not a bad rendition of Wing Zero Gundam, just that Bandai suck it off so hard. https://youtu.be/FC0CHk0DtdI?si=6TZSG4FutAkWSHon
>>23768134What are you talking about, THIS looks cool as fuck. If only they made an MG of TV Wing Zero
>>23768138Modern Bandai has this strange belief that no one likes Okawara's rendition of Wing Zero, even though the sales of RG Wing Zero tv says otherwise. It does sucks that every Wing MG so far has been wanking Katoki. I would love to see the actual TV Heavyarms and Altron to get their MG.
>>23768144Katoki's designs also have the advantage of allowing reused parts, while the tv Wing Gundams are all completely separate molds in spite of the backstory about originating from Wing Zero.
>>23768115Feet of TV Wing Zero in Neo Bird Mode, yes. They absolutely sucked and just made it unnecessary complicated.
>>23768504Compares to the annoying piece of shit known as Rezel, Wing Zero's transformation is just barebones in comparison.
>>23767971TV Wing Zero is a visual downgrade from the Wing.
>>23768527My man.
>>23768138>MG of TV Wing ZeroThe third party company that upscaled the real grade rx78 and rg god gundam to 1/100 scale is going to be doing the rg wing zero tv next. If you're ok with how the real grade looks
>>23768527Only when you are a contrarian snob.
Beside jobbing and dying, original Wing looks like a homosexual version of Wing Zero.
>>23768540Says the guy whining about the EW Wing Zero.
>>23767971>>23767974TV Wing Zero & TV DS Hell are better than the EW Versions. The other 3, The EW Versions eclipse them, especially Heavyarms.
>>23768544You have more reason to hate different version of the same thing. Original Wing is just a cute jobber with a boring as shit colorscheme. What did it even do in the show beside jobbing and exploding?
>>23768546>The other 3, The EW Versions eclipse them, especially Heavyarms.Lol. EW Altron and Heavyarms look retarded as fuck. Deathscythe Hell is passable, but boring.
>>23768554>You have more reason to hate different version of the same thingWing and Wing Zero are closely related too, and they are the main mecha of the show.>What did it even do in the show beside jobbing and exploding?I was just talking about them in terms of design, their performance in the show has no impact on that.>a boring as shit colorschemeMore like a less garish color scheme.
>>23768030I like most of his Gundams and related MS. The sameness of most of them never bothered me that much, because most Federation Mobile Suits are just iterations of the same three or four designs from the original series, so they should have a consistent look to them. His style really doesn't work for Zeon, though.
>>23767971It's because of the transformation gimmick, my manThe transformation to flight mode for nearly all mobile suits in gundam as a whole, suck fucking assWhich is a shame, because wing zero is one of the coolest gundams in the entire franchise
>>23767971Nah, EW Zero is better, the wings are cool as fuck. Its the only suit that got a glow up in EW.
>>23768560Wing has garrish colorscheme. However the color distribution is still very boring, dumb even. The body is mainly blue, yet the shield is red, what the fuck was Okawara thinking? The features look weak and chopped down too, it was obviously just a placeholder design to give the audience an idea of what Wing Zero was gonna look like. Original Wing is pure dogshit, i'm glad they took it out early.
>>23768601EW Wing Zero in animation looks better. The modelkits and lineart look like typical Katoki sludge.
>>23768606>Wing has garrish colorschemeIt has literally the same colors as the Wing Zero, except Wing Zero's color distribution is way more garish and obnoxious because they increased the amount of red and gold on the suit, and they also added more yellow to the Buster Rifle to the point it looks toyetic as hell. Wing Zero is practically the same as the Wing, but significantly more garish.
>>23768615>and they also added more yellow to the Buster Rifle to the point it looks toyetic as hellKino
>>23768560>their performance in the show has no impact on that.It does. Freedom wouldn't be as popular as is it now if Kira just lost every single fight with it.
>>23768745It doesn't matter to me, I like the designs of tons of jobber MS. I will never be retarded enough to say that the one with most wins is the one with the best design.
It's weird how Zero was treated in the TV as some kind of invincible mech that can do anything and beat everything.But in EW, it jobbed easily against Altron, and killed itself with the TBR. It looked so weak and fragile.
How come none of the TV WZ kits or figures get the backpack right?
>>23768872I mean Heero wasn't really fighting against Wufei in the former's full potential.
>>23768872Well Altron got made afterwards so it could be strong as WZ. Also TV Altron had the best overall weapons when it comes to 1v1.
>>23768772>I will never be retarded enough to say that the one with most wins is the one with the best design.Then explain why Wing Zero has the superior design compares to its jobber brother.
>>23768872I don't think it is fragile. If it takes twin buster's recoil, atmosphere re-entry and Altron to actually kill it off, that's a tanky Gundam if anything.
>>23768896Heero tried to Talk No Jutsu with Wufei and didn't try to fight. https://youtu.be/c0oc8rQu69w?si=DRhTJqRaFz48wXBM
>>23768109>He arrogantly removing the unique feature and proportion of every gundam and ms he has redesignedNot really his fault, Bandai paid him to do this so that they could make the kits into models more easily. Pre-Bandai model kit employee Katoki was a completely different animal than the hired hack toy maker.
>>23768926Sentinel had Mika Akitaka on board, along with Model Graphix's editors so he had a proper guidance on what the artstyle should be. His design started to look worse the momment he got appointed as the lead designer, which was when Endless Waltz got into production. Don't get me wrong, Ex S, Xeku Eins and Zwei, Nero are badass looking robots, but they were something made when he was young and didn't try to be himself - which is arguably the better Katoki.
>>23768872I'm.... not sure I would classify "Fought the close-combat-optimized Gundam in close combat, refusing to use Wing Zero's superior firepower" as "jobbing".
>>23767971The only EW design that wasn't objectively inferior was the Heavyarms, which honestly should have been the upgrade it got in the show instead of "slightly bigger backpack thrusters"
>>23768961I don't think EW Heavyarms custom is that much different compares to the tv counterpart. The only noticeable different is the twin gatling. Katoki's Heavyarms doesn't dualwield, it is more of an animation thing.
>>23768966>>23768961Heavyarms going from red to a dark turquoise gets me everytime.
>>23768966It's more obvious when it opens up, but it's got more missile launcher surfaces, more chest gatlings, etc. And don't forget the giant novelty clown mask!
>>23768981The increase in firepower got retconned sadly. The original Heavyarms in EW context has the same thing, which really downplays how much of a juggernault Heavyarms Kai is. Atleast the manga introduced some option sets.
>>23768745Heero didn't lose every single fight with Wing Gundam. He just treated it like shit >>23768872Heero wasn't trying to fight Wufei and the recoil from the TBR only blew it up because it was badly damaged to begin with
>>23768961Base Heavyarms EW is so much inferior to the TV version simply because the gatling is being handheld instead of directly attached to the arm.
>>23769001That's a nice build, anon. Did you make that?
>>23769000Most of ms in Wing are grounded and easily damaged. However, Wing's performance is just sad, barely getting to do anything important and got blown up. The short momment after its repair and return, it jobbed. Atleast the other guys got to be upgraded, Wing got ditched entirely.
>>23769001The arm gun merging will always be cooler than the generic hand held gun.
>>23768900I never said Wing Zero was the superior design, ESL retard, and the reason why its design is worse than the Wing's is because it's basically the Wing but more garish.
>>23769030Cope
Wing Zero and Epyon is an iconic rivalry with iconic designs. Wing vs Tallgeese? Who?
>>23768966Its missing the blade on the other arm.
>>23769048Tallgeese is literally the best Wing design.
>>23769065Tallgeese is cool, but i wish it didn't get so powercreeped by the boy's upgrades. Atleast its descendant got to survive and kick ass, so it is cooler than Wing in my book.
How the robot performs in the anime can affect your perception of it. Ask every Gouf Custom fans if they like it because of the design or because how cool its action scene is.
>>23768137I agreed with this. It's not like that Zero custom is a bad design, It's cool, but it's so overused that it's tiresome. Still Zero TV is superior in many ways, but popularity is another thing.
>>23768961Okawara's Heavyarms Kai and Sandrock Kai are the laziest redesigns ever. He just slapped another barrel on Heavyarms' Gatling Gun, slapped a beam rifle on Sandrock, redesigned the backpacks and called it a day. At least Katoki gave them different colour schemes, and Heavyarms more firepower
>>23769195>At least Katoki gave them different colour schemes, and Heavyarms more firepowerYou only feel that way because it is two different artists with different takes. Katoki's pre upgrade designs for Heavyarms, Sandrock and Shenlong are colorswaps. It is the same art direction.
>>23769183By the look of it, they are bringing EW into HG as well and HG EW Wing Zero is inevitable. I'm just so sick of EW stuff at this point.
>>23768532Is it confirmed? It and Hi-Nu are the most popular picks
>>23769214It looks far from being finished.
>>23768532NTA, i'm personally happy with how RG Zero looks. The proportion resembles the anime in a way.
>>23769205Okawara's Altron is a colour swap (by your logic), and his Heavyarms Kai and Sandrock Kai are objectively lazy
>>23768546I really prefer Katoki's Batman Deathscythe
>>23769205I do like OG Wing EW. but I wish it had those satisfying round chest vents of TV WING
>>23769420You can complain about his Sandrock being lazy but Heavyarms Kai looks exactly the same with no new details beside having a new set of chest gatlings inside. Atleast Okawara gave enough shit to give it slightly different skirt and backpack.
>>23769420>>23769480TV Heavyarms Custom has new skirt, double gatling, bigger Vfins and has 4 thruster verniers. EW versions are literall colorswap with different guns lol.
>>23768933Except EW sold like hotcakes. And Virtual On shows he's a great designer regardless. Unicorn also sold like crazy.
>>23769205>>23769480You do realize that Glory of the Losers came out many years after the EW OVA, right? In this case it's the "originals" (which are actually designs Katoki made after the upgrades) which are lazy, not the upgrade Gundams. And even then, Katoki still gave the "original" Heavyarms and Sandrock brand new optional equipment for the manga that actually made them look noticeably different.
>>23769205>Katoki's pre upgrade designs for Heavyarms, Sandrock and Shenlong are colorswapsHeavyarms and Sandrock didn't really get upgrades, just respeced for space. So that makes sense. Altron's full EW/GoL spec still has the dragon wings and tail. Altron and Shenlong already aren't that different in Okawara's design.
>>23768933I think it's funny how Tomino himself shittalks the guy. Stole these quotes from 5ch which were apparently printed in the 2000 book Aura Battler Dunbine Nostalgia:>He's been contaminated by old Gundam-esque stuff.>He's absolutely incapable of breaking free from that Gundam-esque mindset!>You might think Katoki-kun is young, but he's already got a decade of experience, you know?>Even if you asked someone of his calibre, it'd just end up as over-decoration.>When you look at Katoki mecha from the perspective of someone of my generation, of my sensibilities, I can say with certainty that they're not living mecha! Because they're lifeless, aren't they? They're all sickly, aren't they? They're dead.
>>23769493>Glory of the Losers came out many years after the EW OVADoesn't matter, it is still his take on what EW customs before their upgrades look like. You are trying to compare 2 different designer with 2 different intepretations, no shit their stuff look drastically different next to each other.
>>23769704Tomino shittalk Okawara all the time, too. And Syd Mead once. But to be fair, Katoki deserves that criticism. He has made nothing but trash after the 90s.
>>23769752Tomino shittalks EVERYONE. Including himself
>>23769744Calling Katoki's versions of the upgrade Gundams lazy is still wrong, retarded and plainly ignoring reality.Okawara's designs for the upgrade Gundams are lazy, but his designs for the original Gundams are not.Katoki's designs for the "original" Gundams are lazy, but his designs for the upgrades (which are actually the ones he made first) are not.
>>23769771Now you sound like you are coping lmao. EW prequel lineup were designed by the same person, he would have done it the same if he designed them for the show. If you can judge Okawara's second batch of Wing Gundams and then you should do the same for Katoki's.
>>23769809I'm not coping, I'm simply not retarded.>If you can judge Okawara's second batch of Wing Gundams and then you should do the same for Katoki's.The second batch of designs that Katoki made are the GotL ones, not the EW OVA ones.
>>23769752He was kind of right about Mead. Would Turn A have been a commercial success if it had looked like, say, Unicorn? Interesting to think about.
>>23769484It's a spot-the-difference. At least with Katoki's design you get the immediate visual difference with the colour scheme. Also, Gundam Leopard from Gundam X is basically Heavyarms again and Okawara managed to make that and its upgrade visually distinct. So he could've done it for Heavyarms. He just didn't care
>>23769809>he would have done it the same if he designed them for the show.No because he wouldn't have had Okawara's designs to base them off of.Katoki was handicapped with Endless Waltz because he had to make the redesigned suits still recognisably Okawara's designs. If he were the chief designer of the original series he might have designed the five Gundams completely differently.
>>23769859>Would Turn A have been a commercial success if it had looked like, say, Unicorn?Probably not because the lack of interest wasn't just down to the main Gundam looking weird
>>23769210im not I want more EW stuff and Im glad we'll finally be getting the team in proper HG kits
>>23768527Agreed. The chest on the Wing with it's gold vents is so cool and I hate how the Zero doesn't have it.
>>23769960>Katoki was handicapped with Endless Waltz because he had to make the redesigned suits still recognisably Okawara's designs.Other than Victory that derivative essence been Katoki's entire career, he had Zeta/ZZ to rely on for Sentinel, Kawamori's designs to rely on for 0083, and of course everything prior in UC for Unicorn. Even when he's told to be "original" he gives us fucking Huckbein. Virtual-On is kind of its own thing but you can obviously see the Gundam influence on Temjin and others.DESU if Katoki didn't exist at all and Bandai just hired someone else to streamline their designs for kits I wonder if that would have made any difference.
>>23769859All the Turn A designs not done by Syd Mead were unconventional. Tomino wanted Turn A to have unconventional MS design.
>>23770625Even Okawara had to show Katoki how he would have approached Victory's design, and the design got reworked into Gun EZ.Also I'm pretty sure it's Izubuchi's designs Katoki relied on for 0083, not Kawamori.
>>23770696>Also I'm pretty sure it's Izubuchi's designs Katoki relied on for 0083, not Kawamori.Kawamori designed GP01 and GP02.
>>23770697I was referring to how the GM Type-C and Zaku F2 (and their proto designs in Sentinel 0079) are clearly based on Izubuchi's GM and Zaku designs in 0080:WitP, but yeah you're right I totally forgot about GP03.
>>23770625>Other than Victory that derivative essence been Katoki's entire career, he had Zeta/ZZ to rely on for Sentinel, Kawamori's designs to rely on for 0083, and of course everything prior in UC for Unicorn.It's almost as if Bandai like the way he redesigns stuff
>>23769065Who designed it?
>>23770844Hajime Katoki.
>>23769956>At least with Katoki's design you get the immediate visual difference with the colour scheme.I honestly don't care about colorswapping, if the details look the same then it makes the original design looks worse.
>>23769960>Katoki was handicapped with Endless Waltz because he had to make the redesigned suits still recognisably Okawara's designs.EW designs have fuck all to do with Okawara's version. They are all standard Gundam-looks.
The best Katoki is the one that copies other designer. Xeku Zwei is just a reskinned The O.
>>23771918>if the details look the same then it makes the original design looks worse.How?>>23771921>EW designs have fuck all to do with Okawara's version.Anon, you cannot be this dense. If Katoki's redesigns had 'fuck all to do' with Okawara's versions then they would not be REdesigns. The reason Katoki's designs are recognisable as the Gundams from Wing is because he's based them on Okawara's originals
>>23771889Exactly. And it wasn't a redesign, there's no 'Okawara's Tallgeese'. Tallgeese was completely Katoki's original design and it's fucking awesome
>>23772162>The reason Katoki's designs are recognisable as the Gundams from Wing is because he's based them on Okawara's originalsNice design continuity you got there, Katokikeks
>>23772164Tallgeese is an edited Leo lineart and Leo is inspired by Okawara's Zaku.
Tv Wing Zero is still the most beautiful one in the robot cast. Sure EW Zero has its momments with LAST IMPRESSION, but as a design, it looks like a downgrade.
>>23772186The design on the left is still recognisably similar to the design on the right. I know you're trying to be contrarian but come on
>>23772190>Tallgeese is an edited Leo lineartWhat makes you think Tallgeese wasn't designed first?>Leo is inspired by Okawara's ZakuThe only design similarities is that they're both green. Not even the same type of green
>>23769001The gatling was probably directly attached to the arm in the series because it was easier to animate that way.Also, TV Heavyarms doesn't have the cool ammo drum in the back
>>23767971I like how okawara's designs of each guundam is unquie in form language, but I also like some of the ideas from katoki designs so I kitbashed the hg kits.
>>23768937He also just straight up lets Wufei hit him at one point
>>23768966Nah, the Katoki design has two holders on the back for the twin gattlings, it's just not dual wielding in the standing pose.
>>23769205i like the katoki designs a bit more but i also like the okawara designs, wing was probably the last gundam tv series that needed a redesign
>>23769422Yeahh
>>23768926Making models with slightly different proportions is easy, they make him redesign every flagship to look the same and have the same proportions in case they want to dress up the gundam statue as that gundam for a promotion.
>>23769205With exception to Wing Zero, I actually prefer Katoki's redesigns over the TV verison.
>>23773818Sad to see your brain damaged taste, but i digress.
>>23776405Do you realize what website this is? Everyone here got brain damage, especially you.
>>23769956No sane person would look at the Leopards and think they look great.
>>23776654I love Leopard Destroy.Regular Leopard is alright
>>23776654I think they look cool when they have the gatlings equipped but kind of dumb otherwise. Either way heavyarms is soundly the cooler looking one.
I'm of the opinion that Katoki's TV-inspired rendition of Altron would be perfect without the gaudy wings
>>23776654Holy shit taste
>>23769480>>23769205Some of them have more differences. I think it just depends on how many times Katoki re-drew it. The Sandrock Kai EW has a Victory Gundam face with line down the middle of the vents, and also has vernier ports in the shoulders. as seen here>>23769210
>>23769220>manufacturer is called Skinny Chickenlol
>>23777138Yeah. Winged dragons are more of a western thing anyway.
>>23776405IKR, Katoki's Wing Zero is way better than the TV version
>>23772500>gattlingsThose anything like gatlings?
>>23772463Since when did Sandrock have a ranged weapon? For that matter, since when did Shenlong have a dadao? What ever happened to the beam glaive/
>>23782908>?*FML!
>>23782908
Personally, I think the Wing Gundam doesn't really stand out either way. TV Wing feels like the picture definition of a "standard main Gundam". Its Bird Mode is kind of a neat gimmick, but wasn't used enough to matter.EW Wing exists purely to be a downgraded Zero. It has no defining features beyond that. Wings kinda stand out I guess, but love it or hate it, the EW Zero leaves too strong of an impact. Obviously, the Wing Gundam was supposed to be the closest to the original Zero's design, so I do understand why it was designed that way. But really think about how that would work. Imagine a world where the EW designs had been used in the show. The Wing Gundam looking too similar to the Wing Zero would work to the detriment of the impact of the Zero's unveiling. Sure the wings leave a strong impression, but everything else looks too similar.
>>23782931When was that published?>>23782958Forgot about the Uzi. Still a far cry from whatever it's brandishing in >>23772463.
>>23769422I dunno, the pointy toes look really fruity.
>>23783704Doesn't matter when it was published; it's not even a dadao..
>>23769205>>23769430>>23770620>>23767971It's ironic because fans like Wing Gundam from the TV series more. Sales of the Wing Gundam TV version are much higher.Katoki's Wing Gundam redesign is actually the worst selling one.
>>23783799>Sales of the Wing Gundam TV version are much higher.Sorry, Wing Zero EW is by far the best selling Wing design, which is why it's pushed so much.
>>23783704>When was that published?2011>Forgot about the Uzi. Still a far cry from whatever it's brandishing in >>23772463.It originally had an even bigger gun than the kitbash in >>23772463.
>>23767971I feel ya. And I'm also tired of EW being in every SRW game.Wing Zero Custom would've been better if it had a shield like WZ and transformation capabilities.Hell, I wish we got instead the Glory of Losers manga put into the next SRW game instead of what we have non-stop.
It used to be worse, OP, at one point EW Wing Zero essentially replaced Wing Zero proper.
>>23767974I'm still really surprised Katoki dropped so many design features of this one, the rib cage chest vents in particular. I would have figured he's appreciate those.
>>23783799>Katoki's Wing Gundam redesign is actually the worst selling one.I mean Katoki's Wing is barely featured relative to the other three, so that makes sense.
>>23783817Reading comprehension. You do not have it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdfSG5fj2w
>>23768138They both look cool. You reek of contrarian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt9t2cIL-wU
>>23784228I thought it was featured in the Glory of Losers manga a lot? But fans still preferred the original Wing TV design
Funny thing is even though the 30th anniversary video uses the EW design for the Wing Zero, it uses the TV design for the brief glimpse we see of the Wing Gundam.
>>23767971I feel the same way but with Wing. Makes me glad they went back to the TV design for that anniversary animation that came out last year, even if they did include the EW version of Wing Zero.
>>23788339Crazy that you'd think being featured in a spin-off manga is comparable to being the main MS in the TV series it was based on.
>>23782958I still remember that gun being his super move in the SNES game.
>>23788592It makes sense. To be honest, the original Wing Zero doesn't really stand out that much when placed alongside other main units, especially when sandwiched between the God Gundam and Gundam X. So if you think about it, it does sort of make sense why the EW design became prioritized. Frankly, it makes a very, very strong visual impact, so much so that even to this day it's arguably one of the most memorable main Gundam designs in the series. I feel bad for fans of the original design, but it's clear that they're vastly outnumbered.The opposite is true for the Wing Gundam. The EW design was barely used for the briefest of snippets. The TV design is the far more iconic one between the two. But this also creates another issue. The original Wing Zero isn't just competing with the EW design, it's also competing with the original Wing Gundam.
>>23789609>the original Wing Zero doesn't really stand out that much when placed alongside other main units, especially when sandwiched between the God Gundam and Gundam XI'm so sad for your blindness.
>>23789609God Gundam has a much stronger silhouette than TV Wing Zero.
>>23784227I read his interview in Wing Zero Ver Ka mannual and he said he somewhat regrets how EW designs turned out. That is why Glory of the Losers brings back Okawara's gimmicks because Katoki had a post nut clarity.
>>23789622He is just a Katokitard defending EW Wing as usual.
>>23789609>The opposite is true for the Wing Gundam. The EW design was barely used for the briefest of snippets. It wasn't used at all, if you mean the anime. The flashbacks in EW show the EW upgraded Gundams, even though those scenes take place before Wing. So, when you see the Heavyarms in the flashback, it's already the EW Kai version. The actual Katoki versions of the initial Gundams only were designed afterwards and never got animated outside of games.
>Buster Rifle is already the most powerful standard ranged weapon in the show>How do we improve it?
>>23789683nanomachines, son
>>23789984I'm surprised that Katoki hasn't design Cold Steel mechs yet. The artstyle is right up his alley.
>>23789984That's just the peacock smasher but lame.
>>23790083no duh I already said nanomachines
>>23789683How does the rifle get energy from Wing Zero's reactor anyway?
>>23790089Hand plugs.
>>23767971What if i hate them both? WZ TV has shitty toy colors and EW WZ looks unbelievably stupid with it's completely pointless biological looking wings.
>>23767971I thought this was the Legilis for a moment when I was scrolling through the catalog
I think part of the problem with Okawara's originals vs Katoki's redesigns is that the redesigns, when they appeared in the OVA (not Build Fighters or whatever) they were really well animated, whereas the Okawara originals were only well animated SOME of the time (In the OPs and when the suits weren't actually in motion). I think if the whole Gundam Wing TV show was as well animated as the OPs or as Endless Waltz, people might be more split on 'which one is better?'
>>23768902Yeah, it actually went through the same thing as tv Wing. Going through re-entry, and then hitting the water will fuck up anything
We give TV Zero EW Zero's arm guards, but instead of cameras, they're a second set of machine cannons. Also, the search eye can shoot lasers now.
>>23768902Not to mention the impact of hitting the water and then pulling itself out of the water
>>23768030>how different the faces of the Okawara/Yasuhiko Gundam and Fujita Gundam Mk-II used to beBut Grandpa and Mk II are supposed to have the same face, the differences you're talking about are entirely due to animator artstyles. ZZ also has same face as Mk II>they think of a version that has the same boring old Katoki faceThe Gundam sameface is Okawara's no?
>>23797075betcha if you erase all the unique features and only show the sameface faceplate, we can still tell which gundam it is
>>23796515Genius.
>>23797115Bet on it.
