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What are your evaluations on Tojima Rider now that its two cours are over?
>>23789930>>23789819>>23789888
https://twitter.com/TVguidePERSON/status/2035516929025450315Nem-chan.
>>23790035Weekend so lame they are retroactively affecting others
>>23790034I quite enjoyed the show, enough that I'm debating purchasing the JP Blu-rays, since it almost certainly won't see a physical release in the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbZ9tEjgMaUGochizo 15.
https://twitter.com/bandai_ridertoy/status/2035514294448902360Ichinose and Supana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-YIboqaOvI
>>23790043Another one? I dunno, I feel like Decade's figures are already really good. What makes this one an improvement over the last few?
https://twitter.com/fuutokoushiki/status/2035664875041747409
>>23790065Legend Version is the model kit, bigger than the Galaxy Version (the gacha ones)Think of Figurerise but much less stickers.
Watch out, /krg/. He has both a Driver and a gun.
https://files.catbox.moe/r1c50x.mp4
>>23790072>rubber bullets
https://www.instagram.com/reels/DWLoGUhjzfJ/Qt Nem
>>23790043There is this too
lads, do u agree?
>>23790110I think you got Black RX confused with Saban's Masked Rider.
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2034482516242125284"Which Rider Kick is your favorite?"
>>23790110>Gaim not in LovedIsn't it one of the shows people recommend to newcomers alongside Build?
>>23790110go back
>>23790110I'll never forget Shin.
>>23790116Tier list stuff was literally banned on /r/kamenrider because it was considered too low quality.
>>23790110>Gotchard in DislikedI actually wanted to ask about this. I know that both /krg/ and Reddit hates it, but why? I took a break after Geats so I missed most of the discourse around it
>>23790110Your taste reeks of SEA.
>>23790121Watch it and find out.
>>23790124I was considering watching it or Gavv next since I missed both seasons, so I'll get to it later.
>>23790110You could’ve randomized the placements and it would’ve been more accurate
I'm annoyed that i'm enjoying the plot and acting in Zeztz more than any other Takahashi show since Ex-Aid because I can't fucking stand the bare waist suit design.
>>23790122plebbit full of sea?
>>23790121Boring and unambitious like Wizard with the least competent lead actors since Blade.
>>23790110I forget where I am sometimes but unironically I have almost every series post Showa in Liked or aboveThe only one's below are Revice in "Disliked" and Gotchard in "Very Disliked
>>23790121Nothing people just wanted to dislike the show because newfags enjoyed the Takahashit before it, same thing happened to Zero-One and Saber where Saber was seen as a steaming pile of shit by all the newfags brought in by Zero-One. Geats was newbie friendly and so the same thing happened to Gotchard where it didn't have the "hype moments" and "aura" with no story to follow like Geats. Saber is now being looked back as some misunderstood classic where all the sudden people are pretending to like it so the same will happen to Gotchard in time.>>23790110Kiva being in liked is hilarious.>>23790171Shouma and Hanto are as bad but Hanto's screaming retard acting is forgiven here for the "haha our jobber" meme.
>>23790110>>23790111>>23790114>>23790121>>23790122>>23790134>>23790177>>23790178
>>23790178Butthurt.
>>23790110People who doesn't watch any Showa Rider besides Black and RX will not survive the winter.
>>23790181LOL
>>23790178The only place that likes Saber is here because /krg/ has a hate boner for Takahashi. No one else is looking back on it as some misunderstood masterpiece
>>23790189Nope, it's been catching traction on Twitter, Plebbit, even on Youtube with the video essay retards. People here hate Sabore, the threads were pretty barren that year compared to years prior. Once Trio of Deep Sin came out /krg/ pretended to like it but that's a vocal minority that always gets laughed at except for the one guy who constantly bumps the threads with webms. And the Takahashit hate/fatigue has extended even to the Japanese, when he was announced people were already writing the show off, same with the western fandom outside of /krg/.
>Nemu has a mini magenta cameraDid... did the Destroyer of Worlds also destroy Code No. 2's pussy in her dreams?
>>23790193As they should. Takahackshit shows have been making less and less money each time. It's only a matter of time before he becomes a detriment to the franchise
>>23790195The grand plan is to have him write the 10th Reiwa series that's what Outsiders prepped him for, one shit crossover show to rule them all.
>>23790197So the grand plan is to have him kill off Kamen Rider like they did Sentai. Brilliant
>>23790110Type of taste I get when I exclusively watch Thomasjujube, Foulplayz, ZeoAgito, and Hawkilles.
>>23790070Is it better than the Figurerize? I have that kit and I lost half of the neo's stickers because the damn thing fluttered off my tweezers mid application and now it's gone forever into the void where transformers missiles and GBA games went during my youth.
>>23790197>>23790195I've learned if 4chan hates something, it's based, and if 4chan likes something, it's dogshit.Case in point, /krg/ loves faiz and it's so much worse than Ghost or Wizard or e ven Revice. It's just a dogshit show written by a man who hates Tokusatsu and also can't write for shit.
>>23790110I thought people hated Kiva.
>>23790181Are you still butthurt, Zeztzfag?
>>23790205That was years ago. Anons love Kiva now because it's written by Kinoue
>>23790193>People here hate SaboreWhat people? Do you really think that spamming the exact same shitpost in every thread makes anons think it's not the same faggot behind every single one of those posts?
>>23790208People gave Kiva a second chance when it got that scrub release from Earthly with better video source. When you actually understand it and it looks not like vaseline people re-evaluated it.
>>23790202woah you can't just point out Faiz was a lot of people's first rider so they have an attachment to it and thus can't see it's shit. Kinoue so quirky and funny I like when he puts kaixa in a head lock.
>>23790210If you were here when it aired you'd recall people bitching about the show every week and even into Revice, giving Revice praise over it. On the contrary the only person who praises it to this day is the one schizo posting the same 10 webms every other day, probably trying to convince people they saw a better show.
>>23790211Weren't most of the issues people had with it the love triangle bullshit? Feels more like people grew up and became more receptive to those kinds of stories
>>23790215Maybe? Inoue love triangle stuff can be an acquired taste.
>>23790202>>23790205Contrarians...
>>23790211Folks only ever cared about Otoya's half of the story and I'm tired of seeing them pretend otherwise
>>23790035I still hate Revice for the wishy-washy plot Kinoshita made. Good thing he's persona non grata in Toei after the novel.On a different note, do you guys think the Seven Agents are like dark, human counterparts to the Phone Bravers of K-tai Investigator 7?
>>23790214>If you were here when it aired you'd recall people bitching about the show every week and even into Revice, giving Revice praise over it.This was before Revice went to shit and made it look better in comparison. Nobody here hates Saber nearly as much as you do, because no one else has made it their mission's life to make the hate buzzword they invented for it one of, if not the most, spammed shitpost in this entire board. You're as pathetic as Duel.And now you've let it slip up that you're so obsessed with the show that you're looking up opinions about it in other places, getting irked that some are fondly looking back on it.
>>23790223Whole lot of words to defend a show you don't care about Maurice. I accept your concession.
>>23790219They shouldn't called the show Kamen Rider Ixa and kept it as the story of a suave, violin playing vampire hunter. The Kiva half of the story was shit and nobody actually cares about anything Wataru does
>>23790221>Good thing he's persona non grata in Toei after the novel.If he was persona non grata they wouldn't have hired him to do anything after Revice, but instead he got to release the novel and wrote a script for one of Toei's dramas 2 years after Revice.Mochizuki is the one with serious scandals under his belt, but he got transferred instead of fired.
>>23790217Ending the Otoya/Yuri/Jiro love triangle with Otoya finally winning Yuri's heart only to then immediately have him fall for Maya the very next episode was certainly a choice
>>23790226Why are you projecting by mentioning another one of your shitpost personas? Go back to pulling your hair out over some rando YouTuber that says Saber is a misunderstood masterpiece or whatever.
>>23790232Honestly, a chronic skirt chaser like Otoya getting bored of Yuri and cheating on her right after he finally got her to say yes was pretty realistic writing on Inoue's part.
>>23790233The one who started projecting is you Maurice, have a bit of self awareness with your own posts kek
>>23790223nobody looking fondly at saber unc
>>23790244>>23790246>>23790221>>23790231>>23790202>>23790189>>23790193>>23790183
Autism, all of you
>>23790256Out on Premium Bandai?
>>23790258https://twitter.com/BANDAIFN/status/2035935736705564874Yup.
>>23790034Not Kamen Rider fuck off back to /a/
https://twitter.com/agito_movie/status/2035954670146134455Agito video.
https://twitter.com/spulse_official/status/2035971865433571692
>>23790244>>23790246>>23790251>>23790260Shut the fuck up already, saboreschizo.
https://twitter.com/spulse_official/status/2035971939270037857
https://twitter.com/agito_movie/status/2036022465026253193
>>23790268Hikawa's prison lover?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RUToTJKzvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=236YSrICWqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMJllkV8gUc
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10577842659?fr=frs
>>23790275le real gun
>>23790110>still mad about normies tasteRent free lmao
https://twitter.com/spulse_official/status/2035533773929091441Toshiki Kashu.
https://twitter.com/spulse_official/status/2035534611548352809S-Pulse Agito.
https://twitter.com/lunacy_TX/status/2035657745333145657Motojima.
Inoue openly fucking hates tokusatsu as a medium and only continues to write for it because he wants to destroy the entire genre.
bwos i finished revice.....I did have a lot of fun with it, but had a ton of issues, subplots that went nowhere, killed off the main villain too early, and really wanted me to care about Sakura and Hikaru. Going to try to watch a few episodes of Gotchard, on episode 4 and if it doesn't pick up in about 10 episodes I'll move on to the next.
>>23790308>i finished revice.....
The new Rider title is going to drop today. I saw it in my dreams
>>23790308Watch the spinoffs next they're pretty good. For all its issues, Revice gave some pretty good content and we got a decent ending. The true ending is the movie with Geats though, and the Daiji and Hiromi movie gives us some closure for both characters
>>23790310Literally who?nyoooo vice..... he never got to have par-faits with kari-baby and hiro-bro...
>>23790312If not your dreams is an idiot
>>23790313Sounds great, I watched Zero One Real-Time and had a ton of fun, need to watch Saber Trio of Deep Sin next, and the Revice stuff. What other supplementary material should I watch or don't want? I know there's an OOOs and Zero One one with awful endings that kill off characters.
>>23790308Now go watch the Revice Geats movie.
i have grown up to the point i realised that more forms were unnecessary addition for the shows and for some seasons they actually hinder the plot when they just become dependant on it.
>>23790308Don't lie. No one likes that crap.
>chocolate is gayWhat did Komura mean by this?
>>23790318this but he's saying "mommy"
>>23790323qt boyfriends
>>23790318Don't, it's bad.
>>23790276Dawn's looks like a "walkie talkie to sensor the gun" meme
>>23790329Dawn's gun is a Red9, a real gun.It was in Resident Evil 4 (most famously.)
>>23790276>>23790329You have to be at least 18 to post here
>>23790084in a dream, which means that they could change to whatever effect the dreamer wants at their whim.
>>23790256looks like a comfy af bathrobe
>>23790368A 400 dollar bathrobe
>>23790327If you're retarded.
>>23790320While I agree, I'm a dirty little slut for more gadgets and sounds to add on to the driver and new designs for the riders.
>>23790265>>23790276>>23790296>>23790322>>23790345Okay
Given Inoue's tendencies, who (other than Ryo who's already dead) is guaranteed to die by the end of the Agito movie?
>>23790320If you mean the habit of base -> upgrade -> super -> final instead of the majority of Heisei where it's a set of base forms, a final form and possibly a midway super form?There's nothing wrong with having multiple forms, the issue comes when there are too many that they lose the utility and make all the action centered on the strongest form, although I recognize there is a practical purpose behind that. It just would be nice if there were more focus on "tier up" upgrades akin to Ghost's Boost that let the base forms that sell the uniqueness of the Rider maintain relevance for longer.
>>23790420I think a big problem with multiple forms is that the more you have, the less exposure each one gets. Zeztz for example technically has ten base forms (four primary forms with six sub forms), but a majority of those have only been used once, especially since he got Plasma.
>>23790418The new villain obviously, are you retarded?
>>23790320I get what you are saying, especially since now the super and final forms are usually two forms in one, but it still is an exiting moment when they debut. I think the main problem is that they have contest the forms along with any new character decide to throw. Catasrom was new for 3 episodes before Dawn was introduced, and is going to get his ass kicked by Ordem in like 2 episodes from no. There's just not enough time to breath and utilize the each form properly
According to this, Toei needs to change their approach with rider
Has Tsukasa appeared again after he jobbed to death during Complete 21 debut?
>>23790442lmaooooinoue series have low sales, whether it's rider or sentai
>>23790442Honestly I'm surprised Sentai didn't die sooner with how abysmal sales have been for the past ten years.
>>23790452If though the sales were low people were still watching it.
https://twitter.com/in_jelly_/status/2034019445635436884Ryoma Takeuchi.
>>23790452I think a big part of it was just people not wanting to be the ones to pull the plug in the first place due to it running for so long.Heck, they were probably still over budget, just look at Project RED not even having different monster of the week suits anymore, and that's wih a smaller main cast than Sentai, since only a couple of heroes appear in most episodes, unlike Sentai that had to have the full team every time.
https://twitter.com/takeuchi_ryoma/status/2033864048224440357
>>23790178>people just wanted to dislike the show because newfags enjoyed the Takahashit before it>Saber is now being looked back as some misunderstood classicAs an uma player I am trained to recognize gaslight when I see it. Zero-one and Geats were popular while airing and Saber and Gotchard were just letdowns as lower quality shows. It's not rocket science, just plain old entertainment.
>>23790457Viewership doesn't matter. Kingohger had good ratings and it was pretty much a dismal failure because of the toy sales.
https://twitter.com/ruikururu/status/558913803123838976Jiip's actor from the 2010s,
https://twitter.com/GaidenKarun/status/2035518132568428583/
>>23790539should have made more moffuns
>>23790539Aside from the sword, I honestly don't remember what kind of toys Kingohger even had. It didn't have collectables as far as I can recall, which nowadays are the meat of a toku show's toyline.
>>23790558There were the Shugod Souls but I don't think they had any compatibility with other merch and they absolutely did not have the vibe of a toy line.
>>23790544ToT
https://x.com/bxoakm23/status/2036089180812661003
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2033604238425919891"The mental state of corporate."
Which character had the most well-earned redemption moment/arc?
>>23790656Alain.
>>23790656Amatsu Gai.
>>23790656Micchy
>>23790317Watch everything.
>>23790427>I think a big problem with multiple forms is that the more you have, the less exposure each one getsZero-One, Gavv and Zeztz prove that having less forms doesn't fix that
>>23790442>>23790448I can tell you're a tourist.
>>23790443Yes, in the Gotchard movie.
>>23790530>As an uma player I am trained to recognize gaslight when I see itHoly fucking cringe.>Zero-one and Geats were popular while airingUnless you're talking about Reddit or some other normie site, this was only true here up until the end of each show's Q1.
>>23790787>Unless you're talking about Reddit or some other normie site,That's what popular means. The fact you use "Most people liked it" as a way to say "nobody liked it" is just you showing why 4chan is full of retarded contrarians whose opinions you should hold the opposite of.
>>23790816>The fact you use "Most people liked it" as a way to say "nobody liked it"But I don't? Take your meds. The thing is, both Reddit and /krg/ are explicitly part of the conversation here, and they're not popular in both sites, just in one of them.>4chan is full of retarded contrarians whose opinions you should hold the opposite ofOnly when anons hold opinions you don't agree with, right? Or are you willing to praise Revice and Gotchard just to spite the general and be an actual contrarian?
What the fuck are you niggers on about now, how is there any debate on whether Zero One and Geats is popular or not, ever heard of this country called Japan? Because it's sure as hell popular and beloved by the audience there.
>>23790868>how is there any debate on whether Zero One and Geats is popular or not, ever heard of this country called Japan?The current debate is also about their reception here. Nobody is denying that Reddit and other normie places love them, retard.
I was not here for Zero-One or Saber's airings. All I knew going into Zero-One was that people liked it but always said the Jobs arc was pretty rough and that RealxTime was great.All I knew going into Saber was people always said it was pretty rough, had a bad Q1, but had a good finale.My experience was that Zero-One is almost agonizingly awful and the Job arc is just the tip of the shitty iceberg in that show. Just an awful story, terrible cast, every single person is fucking retarded (including Gai who is meant to be a serious threat, but fortunately for him everybody else is 10x more retarded). Bad villains with Jin & Horobi being "fine" and Gai being maybe one of the worst villains I've ever seen. The show does everything in its power to make the one good character (Fuwa) suck and it comes close but he's still good. The final arc is actually good because it's the first time in the show's entire runtime where there's an actual conflict that isn't the result of everybody involved being retarded and it has some modicum of art to it. I could get more into my issues but I realize I'm probably just biting shitposter bait. Realxtime is fucking awesome.My experience with Saber was basically the opposite, yeah Q1 has some slight problems with how fucking quick its paced and how many characters get introduced but it's really not that bad. Although the second(?) episode with all the CGI at the end is one of the worst episodes of KR ever, probably. Also the villains (Storious) are kind of lame but I think they're good enough. But other than that I couldn't believe how much I enjoyed that show, some arcs do drag on a bit but I was basically expecting the experience I had with Zero-One for Saber based on how people talk about Saber here.Like I said though I just realized the people arguing right now probably don't actually care and just want to shitpost. No wonder this place is so dead
>>23790871>Nobody is denying that Reddit and other normie places love them, retard.You're being disingenuous by making this about whether plebbit or any other "normie" place likes it when there's clear denial about it being popular in general by trying to steer towards the argument of "everything I don't like is reddit" with >>23790787 "Unless you're talking about Reddit or some other normie site" implying that it's not popular out of those circumstances, you stupid fucking normalFAG, nice job outing yourself.
>>23790876>You're being disingenuous by making this about whether plebbit or any other "normie" place likes it when there's clear denial about it being popular in general by trying to steer towards the argument of "everything I don't like is reddit"What denial? Them being popular in most places doesn't mean they're popular here, which is the point I was trying to make, but at no point did I deny the reality that the general audiences like it. And yes, I have to outline the "normie" sites because the sites with the more hardcore Rider fanatics don't tend to like those shows, even in Japan.And I'm bringing /krg/ up because the reception of the shows here was directly brought up in the conversation, and some retard was talking about newfags so I have to assume he was mostly referring to this place while some other retard decided "nu uh" him even though what he said was somewhat accurate in regards to this place.
>>23790873>The final arc is actually good because it's the first time in the show's entire runtime where there's an actual conflict that isn't the result of everybody involved being retardedThe final arc is the result of the heroes deliberately giving Ark enough resources to evolve beyond its satellite form, letting Horobi walk away multiple times because he has a dream (of genociding humanity), Fuwa and Horobi being too eager to commit genocide on each others' species, and Izu's dumb ass endangering herself again like she did at the end of Q1.
>>23790901Let me be a bit more clear, the path to get to the final arc is completely fucking retarded and the result of literally nobody even once attempting to solve a problem or think about the ramifications of their actions.But the final arc ITSELF, purely in a vacuum, is something I think is alright. Finally flipping the script on its head with the whole malice theme by having Aruto (completely understandably) finally give in to it. I might be overrating the Ark-One stuff just because everything before it is such dogshit, but I distinctly remember not actively hating the show while it was happening.
No trademark this week I guess
>>23790780>>23790443He was also in the Legend special, although suit-only, but he voiced himself there.
>>23790651A waste on those Toei archive pics
>>23790418He didn't kill any good returning character in the Faiz movie, so I think they're mostly safe, aside from Kino, since I'm not sure what kind of role he even has in the movie yet.I guess G6 could die? But since we have new G3/G3-X too those two are even more likely to die instead.
>>23790945Yeah, but that was a flashback from when Kaguya was a kid, not a scene that took place in the present.
>>23790952>not sure what kind of role he even has in the movie yetLooking at the trailers, it seems like he has managed to replicate or synthetize the Seed of Agito into a substance or something, and offers it to someone (probably Hikawa, though he seemingly ends up rejecting it to go full Tada no Ningen again with G7).
>>23790656Gentoku's hit all of the right notes for me personally.>Established as a narratively relevant character from the beginning>His time as an antagonist, although influenced by external factors, was still ultimately acknowledged by both the narrative and his own introspection to be sourced directly from his own insecurities and shortcomings as a person. None of his actions are absolved, but simply reframed by the greater picture painting things with a sense of inevitability.>Events leading up to the redemption weren't without personal consequence to him both physically and mentally. >Post-redemption screentime also isn't comprised of pure-angst or brooding either.The only thing that it was really missing is that redemptions are usually best when there's a key narrative moment that only the redeemer is able to accomplish or facilitate, and I don't think (unless I'm misremembering) Rogue really had anything like that in-series despite his background.
>>23790974Yeah but the complication there is that Kino is supposed to be dead. Why he isn't is a huge question unless Inoue is doing another robot duplicate thing. He probably won't be transforming into Another Agito in any case.
>>23791052>Kino transforms into Another Agito>except now it's normal Agito
>>23791028>The only thing that it was really missing is that redemptions are usually best when there's a key narrative moment that only the redeemer is able to accomplish or facilitate, and I don't think (unless I'm misremembering) Rogue really had anything like that in-series despite his background.He used his position to secretly help the heroes invade the Pandora Tower in the middle of the show, freed Kazumi's farmer employees that were being held captive, and then sacrificed his life to damage the Evol Trigger so that Sento and Banjo could beat Evolto.The only issues with his redemption are some mild whitewashing (the Pandora Box Light bullshit and him revealing that the lethal experiments done on Banjo's gf were Evolto's idea and not his) and the V-Cins giving him both a completely happy ending and a big retard moment in his attempt to mass produce the Build Driver and sell it to other governments.
>>23791028The biggest downsides of both Gentoku and Grease's character arcs is that once they turn face, they don't really have anything else to do, so they both turn into space fillers/comic relief characters. They both get great sendoffs, but they just kind of bum around until they get there and any emotional impact is completely undone by the v-cinemas.
>>23791052Resurrections were already a thing in Agito. The OverLord of Darkness used his powers to resurrect Ryo and the boyfriend of Shouichi's sister.
>>23790530>As an uma player I am trained to recognize gaslight when I see it.Christ I hate the breed of retards the game brought into that fandom, use to be comfy and enjoyable on /a/ but now you got retards like this one.>>23790787Those shows had some of the most active threads in years, don't let shitposters who pretended to be here tell you otherwise, folks here liked Zero-one and Geats and brought in an influx of "this is my first show what should I watch next" posters.
>>23790938Aren't new Rider trademarks usually on non-JST Tuesday mornings?
>>23791071>Those shows had some of the most active threads in years, don't let shitposters who pretended to be here tell youI was there, them being very active doesn't mean those shows were universally beloved here, at least half the posts in those threads were complaints by the time we reached the second half of those shows. Those were not like the Ex-Aid and Build threads.
>>23790656Ankh getting all the benefits of it being unplanned made it so organic. OOO's spectacular multi-track drift.
>>23790442This chart makes the drop from Toqger to Ninninger look normal, and not the beginning of the end like /ssg/ kept saying it was.
Apparently the Gavv Perfect book that came out has notes from Bandai about Baki Baki Stick appearing too late, that's pretty damn funny.
>>23791094It was a pretty massive drop that Sentai never quite recovered from and didn't its Power Rangers season also flop which solidified the Western lack of interest in propping up future seasons?
https://twitter.com/KamenRider_EN/status/2036171167258779770"Are you a true Kamen Rider ZEZTZ fan? Level: Super Difficult Do you know how many rounds does Baku fire in the first fight of Episode 1? (If you know the answer without looking it up, rider us impressed)"
>>23791094>>23791108Ninninger's drop wasn't really very different from the Gekiranger, Goseiger or Go-Busters' drop, it only really gets all this blame, because afterwards, unlike the previous ones, Sentai never recovered. But it definitely didn't kill Sentai by itself.
>>23791112>even the Xitter admin knows their fandumb's sheer autismLolLmaoRoflmao even
