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>Gundam Sentinel>Gundam F90>G-Breaker>Acrobunch>Mechander Robo>Megazone 23>Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram>Gundam SEED X-Astray>Golion>Tekkaman Blade II>Detonator Orgun>Gundam SEED Stargazer>New Getter Robo>Fight Iczer-1>Adventure Iczer-3>Fafner in the Azure: Heaven & Earth>Virtual-On Fei-Yen HD>SD Gundam Sangokuden Brave Battle Warriors>HEROMAN>Linebarrel (Anime)>Zoids: Chaotic Century>Zoids: New Century zero>VOTOMS: Alone Again>VOTOMS: Phantom Arc>Giant Gorg>Macross 30>Gundam AGEThese series have never returned from the pre-international era, not even in mobile games, which ones would you want to see again?
I'm just here to find out when they're going to do a stream.
https://twitter.com/tspark_official/status/2042075024757256426Renais version GaoFighGar.
>>23812605>Most favoriteV>Least favorite30I haven't played much srw...
>>23812611Wait, even the Iron Leaguers, Eldorans and Ryu Knights came back?
HeyYou guys hear about pic rel. ?Apparently we can have Ibis at home
>>23812623Never internationally, but if anon means they were one-and-done entries in the franchise as a whole, than Eldorans and RyuKnight came back in OE after Neo. Iron Leaguer...I'd assume it must have been in X-O at some point.
>>23812611Orgun and Golion were in Gakuen
>>23812611AGE.
>>23812605Roster only not gameplay or scenario writing?Favorite @3Least? Z2.1
I miss Atsuko Tanaka
Happy 30th birthday, Tomoyo Kurosawa.
>>23812605>mostUX>leastprobably Z3.1
What's your dream series list? Also, list any OG or crossover interactions if you have any.
>>23811696Imagine how much better SRW would be if women stayed away from the battlefield.
>>23812644Z3 is such a mess. Holy fuck. The fact that you can't even control Dragon Hive anymore? All the messy route splits. Loss of story upgrades from Z2. What were they thinking.
>>23812650You're one to talk, Wufei.
>>23812651???https://youtu.be/tZ_ZUnTubh4
>>23812641Damn that's a lot of sex.
>>23812658For me, it's Reina.
>>23812651You get Dragon Hive in Tengoku...
>>23812656>Kazuki Yao voice statusIt's heartening to know that this was before SRW V and overall he managed to give Judau a couple of new lines pretty well.
>>23812594Viletta Baddy!
https://twitter.com/yaochan_defu/status/2040078179155747167
>>23812594The only OG character to appear in every Alpha game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RHmgIeTx8Did you know that Viletta got a theme in OG1 because one of the guys on the sound team was a huge Viletta fan and made it without permission
>>23812611Tekkaman Blade, Orgun, Iczer, X-Astray, Zoids: CC, and Heroman.
>>23812650Shut up Wufei.
>>23812729I'm pretty sure its just a Time Diver remix
>Initially, the plan was for Masaki to be the main character as well as Ryusei and Kyosuke, and for the story to revolve around Masou Kishin and a trip to Antarctica (at the time there were no plans to remake Masou Kishin ), but due to capacity limitations, the number of units was limited, so Masaki was incorporated into Ryusei's story .
>>23812736All things considered, it's not a big loss because Masaki had a role in other games and he's still the undisputed MVP of the battle against Zoldark, but it would have been nice to have Masou Kishin more incorporated in Og1.
>>23812641>Metallic RougeIs that series worth watching? I remember seeing it listed in a recent mecha shows list.
>>23812774It was okay. Music was pretty good.
>>23812774noit's a dumb 2 episode plot stretched over 12
>>23812774Mediocre at worst, disappointing use of it's premise.
>>23812774It's a total waste of time. Not even offensively or comically bad, just boring as sin.
Having to choose between Turn A and xabungle on a route split is unfair. They're both so good. What route split did you guys pick? I already picked xabungle.
>>23812786Also fucking tying together the two nuke drops from Turn A and Xabungle was kino. But slightly weird since I was throwing nukes from the Xabungle and Turn A as attacks...
>>23812786In Alpha Gaiden? Xabungle. It's was pretty good.
>>23812774Fuck no, duel loved it for some reason.
>>23812804>Muh bogeymanGET A LIFE
>>23812806Likewise.
Do I miss out on anything worthwhile by not doing these in 30? I hate turn limits on long missions.
Every time Z3.2 gets brought up I can't help but laugh how much of an apology game V was.
>>23812844V is a decent but overrated game.
>>23812844V started the over reaching super casualization of modern srw by allowing you to cast spirits whenever
>>23812854Enemy phase spirits had existed in the franchise since 2009 but that game's sp system is way different.
>>23812844>no playable rey>no laevateinn urzu strike>no final getter tomahawk>plotless hathaway's flash and zzNah, not really. Cool mazinger though.
God why are the Quaestors the absolute WORST units to be up against in 30, they're not even difficult, just incredibly annoying as far as mooks go
>>23812849I'm just saying how you can tell V was made with then trying to up for all the issues Z3 had. >people were mad that Athrun wasn't playable. So not only did they make mhim playable this time but made a point in having him in the trailer to show off he was.>people complained about no Mazinger Zero. So they added it in V>people complained about Pseudo-Evol Eva 01 only showing up once and not playable. So they made him playable >people complained heavily about the over focus on the OG plot. So they basically made it non-exist for the most part>brought back ZZ after people complained it wasn't in it>>23812861Pretty sure nips don't give a fuck about most of that
>>23812863>Mazinger ZeroStuff like Athrun, fine. But Mazinger Zero is definitely heavily peddled from our side.
>>23812557And to date, J is still the only SRW to physically feature the old Shuffle Alliance even if only as map sprites.
>>2381287264
>>23812824No, all of these fights are pointless.
>>23812876But not as map sprites.
>>23812878https://forums.serenesforest.net/topic/104832-super-robot-wars-64/page/2/#commentsChapter 19. They have map sprites.
>>23812893Or rather Joker has a sprite.
>>23812857I didn't count NEO under modern SRW to begin with and wasn't counting on someone caring enough to well acshually
>>23812863>>people complained about no Mazinger Zero. The fuck? this is bullshit.
>>23812844How would they ever make an apology game to Y? I've been asking for IBO in a new game for years but what I got was G-Bitch and most of series I don't give a shit about.
>>23812896Neo is responsible for ep spirits, reusable consumables and start with X SP out of your max total.Hakai inherited the consumablesJigoku modified the SP thingV brought back EP spirits (but NEO/OE had a range limitation that V+ dont have)
>>23812909The major complaints were people getting attack onlied and OG plot shilling. Mazinger Zero/playable Pseudo EVOL Eva 01 were things V added so it didnt feel like reheated Z3 leftovers.
>>23812909Sort of. People complained that the big preview stuff for Z3.2 being "This is Getter/Mazinger's true power!" being a stat upgrade and getting attacks we already had from Z2 back was a massive cocktease when they were expecting Mazinger Zero/Mazinkaiser/Getter Emperor/literally anything cool and new.
>>23812909>>23812929Z3 hyped up a new Mazinger power up and Great Mazinger showing up. People were hoping that it was either Mazinger Zero or a Kaiser and we got nothing. Both being in the game directly after Z3 after shows it wasn't done not to be a "reheated Z3" and only a retard would think that
>>23812930Getter Emperor is beyond wishful thinking and Mazinger Zero wasnt even on the fucking cast list. This was the era when they stopped sneaking stuff in too. In hindsight, it was beyond kind of silly to expect that much even if what we got was underwhelming.
>>23812939I expected something after all that. God I can't believe what a fucking letdown Z3.2 was after all that hype they gave. They fucking knew they had nothing and were lying through their teeth the whole time.
>>23812939Nowadays Getter Emperor seems like it might actually happen. Technically we did get a playable one with Devolution
What is you preferred flavor of Gespenst?
>>23812946I forgot that one point Kyosuke was the main protagonist of the OG games. I wonder why they picked him
>>23812937V shared a massive chunk of its cast with Z3 and if you were there, you'd remember how much shit the game got pre release for sharing so much of the cast even admist the hype of Yamato and it being the first non OG game to get an official translation.They HAD to include something new among the returners which is why they made sure to show off the likes of Athrun (which addressed a common complaint) and showed off Mazinger Zero, so people would give a shit. I believe V was also the start of toy shilling too.
>>23812863V also brought Tetsuya after so long and giving him an upgrade.
>>23812948>V shared a massive chunk of its cast with Z3That's literally every SRW and nothing new
>>23812947They considered Masaki, Ryusei and Kyosuke. Masaki got folded into Ryusei's route and Kyosuke got included because Impact was the most recent game. (They both came out in 2002)
Z3 was like Tales of Graces Wii in that you could tell they knew they fucked up based on how the staff acted afterwards, and what was done following.>I believe V was also the start of toy shilling too.The toy shilling is honestly part of it because they spent most of their streams showing off toys and chatting rather than going on and on about the games and promising the world when they know full well know they'll have had halfass at least a few things because of limitations. Now it's mostly just toy/gatcha shilling, a trailer and a stay tuned.
>>23812947Can't see how, in addtion to this he also got his own route in OG1 and an entire manga adaptation of said route, plus the OVA having him as the MC and 2nd OG giving him an entirely new animation set despite not having any plot in said game.
>>23812947He and the Alt are cool.
>>23812953Compare the number of shared series between Z3/V and 30/Y.
>>23812947Impact and Alpha were the most recent console games when OG1 came out.
>>23812960>>23812954You forgot also being the MC of OG2 while also having his Shadow Mirror self being set up as a future villain. Which will most likely never happen now
>>23812960Also, that manga adaptation based on his route. Though there was one based on Ryusei's, though I dont't think it has a translation and Divine Wars was based on Ryusei's route too.
>>23812970Weren't people a few threads back also talking about how the game made him the MC of A's plot leaving Lamia with practically nothing?
>>23812970Kyosuke is not THE mc of OG2, he's one of the mcs of its plot. Since the game you know, covered Impact, a reworked Alpha Gaiden, aspects of Arado's plot in Alpha 2, SRW3, etc.>>23812976Yes, Divine Wars is Ryusei's Route.
>>23812970>You forgot also being the MC of OG2Literally in the image.
>>23812981Yes, because it's true.
What went wrong?
>>23812993Nothing even the Mc of EF is based on him
>>23812976Bro, the manga is called "Record of ATX" and it ends with Kyosuke and Excellen fucking, he's the main character there too.There was no manga for Ryusei's side.
>>23812981>>23812990The OG and the rival barely have anything that consititutes a rivalry in A. AP has been translated for over 5 years, we should be familiar with the plot by now. They used Kyosuke to explain why the SMs jumped and Gilliam to explain how they got the tech to jump. Lamia is still the one driving the A plot in OG2.
>>23812997There was but it looks like this.
>>23812998>Lamia is still the one driving the A plot in OG2She really isn't. You can like her but every aspect of Advance's plot was taken by other characters.
Friendly reminder that al PxZ games are canon
>>23813008That's dead wrong.
>>23813008Her plot got taken over so hard that they actually made Lemon and Excellen the same person tying even harder to Kyosuke
>>23812997Anyone have raws for the final volume of Divine Wars ATX? Translated sites are missing the first half of the volume.
>>23813013It still pains to say that NxC is just a terrible game, great fanservice but horrible gameplay
>>23813017What is with them trying to give Excellen clones to Axel?
the one negative thing about the jump from GBA OG to OGs is the loss of many old school BGM that would never be remixed ever againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ6v_NfDcOEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A-ITA6xfYghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBAVpx29pMPosting the Alpha versions because I didn't find the OG remixes. Didn't search that hard though.
>>23812996But Hawken is Axel's son.
>>23813017>Lemon spends almost the entire game talking about how much she values the development of the W series and is happy to see how Lamia, Wodan and Echidna manage to make something of themselves beyond what she set>But the Excellen part is totally the most important part of her character guys
>>23812997I thought there was another manga that focused on the SRX team.
Fun fact, you can just kill Vindel in the second to last stage of OG2 and completely ignore Lemon who simply disappears forever and is never acknowledged again by anyone.
>>23813042You can also completely skip the part where Kyosuke/Excellen talk about naming their children as well.
>>23813038See >>23813006
>>23813046You can? I thought they always at least mention Alfimi.
Reminder are the irui and Sanger doujins canon?
Okay which game's plot did OG fuck up the most? Didn't they change the R cast to being from Shadow Mirror rather than the future for one?
>>23813035>But the Excellen part is totally the most important part of her character guysBecause that's all anyone remembers.
>>23813046Wasn't that in a post stage cutscene?
>>23813013SRW OG the Inspector is the best Yakuza anime ever
>>23813052J. They completely fucked up Calvina's character, made Touya more boring, and tried to make the Fury less evil.
>>23813052R or Alpha Gaiden for sureProbably R wins out because it has actual OG protagonists who just kinda end up doing nothing except get chased down by Axel and then Raul hops along and chills in the Kurogane until OGG decides Fiona is actually alive in the final 5th of the game.
>>23813022Yeah, like I'm surprised of all the characters from Resident Evil to choose from they went with the guys from Dead Aim.
>>23813052Them being from the future really didn't matter much since they didn't really pay attention to current evens going on during thier time and didn't know much about the major shit that happened
>>23813057It's the last bit of dialogue during the ending of OG2.
>Alfimi joins in the final(2nd to last for true ending) stage of OG2>Can't hit worth a damn because Regisseur has Warp Field
>>23813053Its an incredibly minor part of her character that people gas up as a really big deal. The A "plot" is basically just the OG deciding that the Shadow Mirrors are wrong after working with Londo Bell/Steel Dragons and realizing that a world of perpetual war is wrong. OG made up so much shit for it, its absurd.>>23813057>>23813064Excellen has to kill Lemon to get the expanded dialogue concerning the names of their children.>>23813052R and GC.R covers all of like 4 maps in OGs, OGG is just them doing random stuff until when Fiona shows up at the very end and even then Duminass is not even the same person.GC is completely unrecognizable.
>>23813069She also counts as a forced deploy for both stages lowering your deploy slots from 20 max to 19.
>>23813071>Excellen has to kill Lemon to get the expanded dialogue concerning the names of their children.Nah, if you do that she brings up having 2 daughters, if you don't she just mentions one daughter that would be named Alfimi/Alchemie
>>23813071GC is not only unrecognizable but it's also pretty insulting
>>23813062I do miss all the arguments people used to get into about the timeline/alternate timline stuff. I remember arguing with a guy who kept saying MMX wasn't apart of the Future timline with Xenogears and Legends.
>>23813075If only we could get them as characters that come from the future for a subplot piloting these units.
>>23813080That's weird considering in the game itself Tron and KOS-MOS are aware of X and Zero and vice versa. Though, I'll admit it did seem weird that PXZ and X and Legends taking place at the same time. This was before I knew much about SRW such as how most games like Alpha had all the UC series happening at the same time.
They could have used R to supplement the Alpha Gaiden and even 64 plot (if they knew that people cared about them before 2020) but that ship already sailed.
>>23813084It'd be hilarious if Kyosuke clings onto plot relevance by having his special darling time traveling daughters show up while the 2 SRW in OG that actually feature time travel as a plot point were treated the way they did.I was gonna say "the 2 SRW that actually feature time travel" but then I remembered Y was just a while ago.And also UX if you squint a little and Alpha 3's true ending
What's the best OG anime OP theme and why is it Break Out? Though I think Rising Force is a close second.
SRW DD already did pilots from one franchise piloting another from a different franchise. When is a mainline SRW game going to add that feature.
>>23813092>Break OutNot a bad choice but Prisoner of the Labyrinth exists.
>>23813090I guess so if they're gonna have Excellen using recyceled voice clips whenever she's in a game now.
>>23813087NxC/PxZ go even harder with the time travel/muiltverse travel stuff that sometimes it gets really hard to follow like both Sakura Wars and Valkyria Chronicles being from two different alternate past timelines. But Vergil is from the main timeline but before DMC3 while Dante is post DM1
>>23813092It's Maxon.
DD when?
>>23813099I remember in PXZ2 when Alisa reunites with the Resonance of Fate trio she says it's been years since she last saw them but for them it was only a few weeks ago. The game also had Revelations Chris and Jill meeting RE6 Leon and of course Kite and Haseo teaming up.
>>23813089People say that but what do the MC of R even do in thier own game? They basically aren't familiar with most of the stuff going on cuz they didn't pay attention to any of it and they keep the fact thier from the future hidden the whole game. The OG villain barely doesn't even do much out side of the opening stages
>>23813109They also have Metalface meet the Mech Fiora even though I'm pretty sure they never figure out each other's true identity at all in their home game because Mumkhar dies before she joins.
>>23813109What about opening stage Hibana from Nightshade meeting pre-Shinobi start Hotsuma. Or Natsu meeting everyone and it's never mentioned that everyone mer Taki
>>23812946Was this a test run for the for the Type-G or was the Type-G made because people liked this?
>>23813121the type G MIGHT have been in ACE Portable firstthere's 8 Gespensts with 3 different loadouts in that game, so I don't even remember all of them
>>23813118Fiora might know since she was binge controlled around that time. She just didn't see him die because she joins right after that
>>23813110>They're barely familiarThey're familiar with very important aspects of their world like for example the Zambot children dying at the end, Heero and the others losing EW, etc. Theh wrestle pretty heavily with changing the events of the past throughout the game. Which is why its so lame that the EW finale is optional when its a really big moment for them.Also, Tiz/Lalia/Despinis are the ones who helped organize the alliances for a lot of the non OG villains.OG misses even the easiest of references to R's plot by using Mizuho's access to tech from the SM verse to allow our side to reverse engineer it. What about combining the R Devil Gundam plot with the Machine Cells + Magus instead of disgracing Lamia in a please shill Axel moment?
>>23813121>>23813124Type G is based on Kai's mech in OGGType N is based on the Cry WolvesType C is the Schutzwald's successor
>>23813130Sorry, our OG Devil Gundam parallel are mainmade Einst strains so it all somehow loops back to Kyosuke.>>23813132Type G has a chest blaster and plasma stakes on the legs. Kai's didn't have that, just plasma stakes on both arms.
When are the shuras coming back
>>23813118I always remember seeing people upset at PXZ2 and Smash Bros. for including Mech Fiora because of spoilers yet those same games also have Lucina.>>23813120I thought Hiryu mentions Taki but not by name when he first meets Natsu.
>>23813132Type N is just a normal supped up Gespenst.
>>23813094Maybe when the Gundam Wing×Code Geass crossover manga comes out, the start including the Wing Zero Rebellion for Lelouch when Wing and Geass get into games together.
>>23813140It has the 2-way folding rifle the Cry Wolves' customs had
>>23813138Never.
I can't be the only one who thinks enemy turn spirit isn't a big deal. Back then prevail was overpowered, you can spam confuse every turn and there was no evasion penalty so you're invincible in enemy phase regardless.
>>23813134Type G is a fusion of the Mk S and Kai's custom.
So, what's the worst game in terms of annoying enemy reinforcements? I'm gonna assume Namco x Capcom.
>>23813145Prevail was terrible in a lot of games back then.
>>23813142It's not really the cry wolves' personal custom. They (and kai) just got the early rollout for the gespenst remodel plan. Gilliam gets his own modification because he's a chad.
>>23813141When is that manga coming out?
>>23813150I love J but spawning all enemy reinforcements on the opposite side of the (too big) map always sucked.
>>23813152Gilliam already had RV since OGs and he's the one who helped organize the Halloween Plan which was meant to make specialized and upgraded Gespensts for the few specialists lying around.
>>23813139I think he says she's familiar but must people focus on why she talks like a Natsu and use modern slang first some reason>>23813157NxC is way worse. Imagine twice as many reinforcements and combine that with unskippable attack animations that are basically mini fighting game combos. Stages towards the end of the game end uo being like hour and half long because of all the reinforcements
The voice of Hibiki Yuta.
>>23813138Folka saw the potential stupid romance subplot and decided to fuck off
If we miraculously get a new OG I want Kyosuke and Shu being bff for no reason in Story. The go to SRW Hero and SRW Villain back in mid-late 2000's and they're also on the same age
>>23813013Dante is my favourite OG
>>23812993How could we wank him even more?
>>23813226We can't, but she will.
Sex with Nanbu Kyosuke.
>>23813225I swear there was a time some people here wanted him to appear in OG.
What's his next step?
>>23813229
>>23812939We didn't know what new shit was or wasn't in Tengoku when Jigoku was out
>>23813151Enemy turn or not Prevail is strictly better than Alert unless you're gonna get tagged with a stun or -50% attack if you don't dodge
>>23813244it wasn't good until Z which does have evasion decay (which doesn't reset when you get hit)
Leave Y's DLC3 and the franchise's 35th anniversary to me.
Machu's voice actress.
>>23813244There's an entire glut of games where Prevail is either bugged in some way or just boosts your crit rate. This leads to funny stuff like Prevail being very bad in Compact 2 but extremely good in Impact.
https://twitter.com/ueyamamichiro/status/2042220119703912508
>>23813071>>23813077Devs took a little too much to heart about how not-talked-about GC was and just decided to get it done as quickly as possible to say they did it.Pity, I don't know much about it but I do like the Super OG it has. Though don't some of the OG units have some weird legal kerfluffle about them, which is why the Real wasn't in in any capacity unlike most other OG cases?
>>23813151The point is it's so easy to be invincible in enemy turns. Games where enemy turns are legitimate threat are exceptions.
>>23812946the mark II Kai in OG gaiden.Jet Phantom was an awesome attackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsh4yTci33c
>>23813228>>23813241My waifu
https://twitter.com/catsuka/status/2041970311327879226
>>23813319>>23813321How many promotions have they done. I remember that Char one from years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0yNuh9MeA
https://twitter.com/NOBUKIHIYAMAY08/status/2041488326348399000Hiyama.
https://twittter.com/mazingo_info/status/2041738058593398913
>>23813145>>23813312>You can spam Confuse every turnPlease tell me how I'm going to be able to spam confuse every turn in the games where it doesn't exist. The spirit's price also varies between games and it can be rather expensive and/or rare depending on the distribution of relevant units in the game who actually learn it, especially in the single deploy games.the whole lmao half hit rate spam tends not be a viable strategy until the lategame which is already the easiest part in most srpgs anyway. not to mention that can be foiled by enemy phase reinforcements or some units having such low evasion modifiers that confuse basically does nothing for their avoid anyway.
>>23813301Dokkoida was pretty alright
>>23813352>and it can be rather expensive and/or rare depending on the distribution of relevant units in the game who actually learn itBesides the games where it doesn't exist at all its almost always available from Combattler/Voltes subpilots or similar unitsRealistically you only need a couple of casts of it most stages cause its most useful when a fresh enemy wave is coming in, and you're saving SP on everyone else even if you're having Quattro or Gilliam or whoever use it. And then there's some supports that have it anyways in other games like Lelouch and it might as well be handed to you for free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Zv1PMx1AcLine up.
Oh and in the squad/pair games you have no reason not to be using it constantly when whoever's sitting in the back row is doing fuckall with their SP anyways and you can probably deploy a double digit number of pilots that have it in Alpha 2/3 and Z.
>>23813373>>23813377I'm glad that you have a sample size of maybe 5 games.
What actually weakens the enemy phase in SRW games is the existence of powerful map weapons, because the games then turn into lure as many enemies as possible into range, so your competent map attacker either kills or severely weakens all of the enemies in range for the rest of the team to mop up.
https://twitter.com/ashi__pro/status/2037454830516490384
>>23813412What are you even talking about and why are you trying to make it into an argument. Confuse is in way more than 5 games it's always been useful
Anniversary of OG and W next year
Mazinger's 55th anniversary next year.
>>23813352Like i said man, even if my example isn't applicable to all 50+ games, you can't honestly say enemy phase in these games aren't trivial. Unless you just send out units with 0 upgrades to the frontline alone or bring up shitters like aphrodite ace side by side with mazinger I just don't see any scenario where enemy phase casting will make the game easier than it already is.
>>23813428>>23813431How is this even a "debate"?>Unit is low on HP for whatever reasonCast Vigor/Guts/Trust/Faith>Enemy exhausted all of your support defends and racked up oodles of dodge decayWho cares, you still have Alert/Persist/Foresee to spam with impunity.The only games that got enemy phase spirits right were Neo/OE because SP was at a premium and you couldn't let some random character with Trust heal you from the literal other side of the map if your unit got hurt.Do you think a game like AP wouldn't be significantly easier if you had the ability to cast spirits whenever you wanted to bail you out of a sticky situation? Especially during the early/mid game?
>>23813255Only if you bring Diebuster with you.
>>23813421Surely this means something will happen with Dancouga right?
>>23813457Enjoy your model kits.
https://twitter.com/gsc_mechasmile/status/2042482790105579696
https://twitter.com/koubouya/status/2042146274791846259
>>23813174>dommy-mommy FairlionGod damn it- that thing needs to be painted red and given to Katina.
>>23813420>What actually weakens the enemy phase in SRW games is the existence of powerful map weaponsAnd conversely, what actually strengthens the enemy phase in SRW games, is double (or even triple) turning bosses with map attacks running in the 5000+ damage range at 10 squares distance. And I'd say enemy-turn usage of spirit commands is a good counterbalancing to that bullshit.
>>23813449I was only talking about confuse, chill out niggy
>>23813022I powered through it by sheer force of nostalgia. Every stage after a point lasting 2~3 hours was kinda miserable though.
>>23813373>Combattler/Voltes subpilotsL was a really funny game in retrospect.
>>23813449Yeah but for every 1 game like ap you get 10 games like alpha 1 or 64.Besides it's not like you can't just park a super robot with guard cast ahead of everyone else.
>>23813500That's still fairly balanced since you can't cast those lategame spirits more than twice
>>23813459Whatever, anything for a full Henkei Gattai Dancouga Nova. In fact, MODEROID might be enough, but they could still make a THE GATTAI anyway, they have to also give us the R-Daigun for Dancouga Max God.
>>23812946pork
>>23813200Highlights of V, I hope when Eva returns to SRW Shinji and Koji can be bros again.
>>23813429
X or 30?
>>23813555
>>23813590>>23813429I havent been on /m/ lately any OG newskek at that sprite tho>>23813511I miss Gravion Z and Z2 my favorite unit there, I wish the series appeared in our modern SRW
>>23813591X is the worst of the VXT trilogy, but in retrospect I don't like playing 30 at all, and this despite 30 having a better cast for my taste. Sometimes I like to imagine if Bandai wasn't made up of retards and what would have been if SRW X had been skipped and all its resources had been directed to T.
>>23813477nta but you really are full of shit.
>>23813421Why are there two Hamans?
>>23813507>enemy AI ignores your SR
>>23813315they made it way worse in OG2ndthey didn't know just how hard that axe kick into split second plasma stake activation went and took it out
>>23813511Gravion's ace bonus makes them go from struggling to cast spirits to holy shit.
SRW Y crack doko...
>>23813595>any OG newsjust toys and the odd bit in DD
So we'll never see other representation of Gundam Wing except for EW?
>>23813650Might take a long time to have something like Z2 again
what exactly are these
>>23813650We might get TV Wing but only past the point where the Gundams have already upgraded so they don't have to animate two sets of Gundams
is PP or funds the bigger constraint in 30
>>23813652the stages you can repeat to farm
>>23813622hypervisor is not a crack it's a bypass that have to open up your bios to use. Denvou is still there
>>23812611Dangaioh
>>23813695That said, the one doing the answer does not use Hypervisor, it just a straight up crack. Sadly, I don't think SRW Y is a priority, given it's not a AAA title and specially since it seems it still not done with DLC, so don't expect a crack anytime soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekUa3dxXnKE
Well, Y just got another Steamdb update today >>23813704Oh, the problem with cracking the game now is that you won't be able to play any new updates and or DLC if it comes out
>>23813716>Well, Y just got another Steamdb update todayThat's what, the 3rd time this week or something now?
>>23813752It's kind of hard to tell if it's just a steam side thing or an actually update. But when they happen this often it usually means something is actually coming
>"Lieutenant Quattro never acts without reason."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
>30 has two missions to upgrade the Hyaku Shiki>instead of just giving Char a mech that isn't underpowered mediocrity
>>23813774Hyaku Shiki is among the strongest of the side units in 30.
>>23813790And unless it's the ZZ version it's usually pretty good
>>23813774I mostly just put Quattro in the RX-78 2
>huckebein game>no vanishing trooper
>>23812594I tried to install SRW Y on my deck and i had creamapi'd it. On the deck the game doesn't see the dlcs. I copied the files and i pasted the creamapi..what am i missing? Is it because the deck uses linux?
>>23813653I'd be fine if they do like D again where they have their upgrades already.>>23813759Char does nothing ever wrong.
>>23813759Didn't Kamille punch him over Axis in the same game?
>>23813802Sucks they didn't have pic rel. in 30. They had like a billion Comp Hero games so it's a big chink of SRW history.
>>23813865https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0nEXlUbj1g
>>23813866That hoverboard. . .
>true super expert plus mode™ unlocked>let's go grab DLC units>perhaps this was a mistake
Now I get why i wasn't enjoying my 2nd runs of 30 and Y. While it was fun to get all the NG+ freebies and build whoever freely, it removes any semblance of struggle entirely and makes the playthrough feel hollow. Restarted fresh with no NG+ and now I'm having a blast with both games again
>>23813878Super expert Plus is basically just this game. 30 still sucks for the most part, unless you like J Decker which I do.
>>23813883oh hey, you found my ignore-list
>>23813885I have a younger cousin who for some reason was absolutely terrified to the point of nightmares of this frame of Getter 2. I thought it was pretty funny by my Aunt didn't think so.
>>23813884No, not really. Impact (and D) suffer from a bad case of parroting.
Why is almost every enemy targeting Brain unit in J? Do these things have some kind of hidden bonus aggro I don't know about?
>>23813653>>23813650They could do Glory of the Losers. Reuse EW Gundams as the upgrades, and even could base the base Gundam's sprites on the EW ones.
>>23813899No one wants that.You keep saying this will never make it happen.
bring back route splits to modern SRW
>>23813922There are a lot of things I wish could go back. And SRW Y doesn't exactly give me hope for the best. I can only hope the Japanese complain enough and the SRW team backtracks on a couple of things. Like removing Wave Rider Mode from the Z Gundam is clearly bullshit. Same thing for Macross, they must have at least two forms.
>>23813895They target the nearest unit with highest rates. I think they also prioritize using mapw and c moves
>>23813930The characters in delta spend such little time in battroid, they'd basically have to make up entire movesets from scratch
>>23813899You're more likely to get the Wing/Geass manga in SRW than you are Glory of Losers
>>23813932The problem isn't so much Delta, but setting a precedent so that they never have to make alternate forms again when a robot has them available and uses them regularly. There was no need to remove that form from Z. In SRW Y it seems more like a convenient excuse to work less and get people used to that.
With Delta I'm more annoyed that most of the Valks' weapons aren't useable attacks but they instead get a lot of Consecutive Attack type moves
>>23813955You could count the number of times Billbine had a real use for its alternate form in SRW on one hand. I dont recall Show using it that much in series as well.As for Waverider, it has a tendency to flipflop between being the only form worth using and, I only use you because they crippled Zeta's movement far too often for my liking.
>>23813960Bilbine can fly, and its speed doesn't change much between the two forms, and the last time it could transform was in Alpha 1. But there are units which gain significant advantages by sacrificing power. And I've always used the Jet form of Wing or the Waverider.
>>23813930I can understand some stuff like L-Gaim' MK 2s Cruiser mode, the Billbine's Wing Calibur and the Delta Valks. Other stuff like the Zeta I can see where you're coming from. Zeta's Waverider needs the HML back as a move though. Stop with just the Beam Gun + Beam Rifle moveset.>>23813932It's a similar reason to why Gerwalk was cut from Frontier's appearances and just incoporated into movesets.
>>23813964>Bilbine can fly, and its speed doesn't change much between the two forms, and the last time it could transform was in Alpha 1.wrong
>>23813895Most of the nintendo handheld games enemies prioritize units in an order that's something like the lowest evasion > highest current HP > closest target (if the other two factors are tied somehow)Usually means they'll beeline for Combattler or a ship but if those aren't in range it can be less predictable.
>>23813973Fine, I'm guess you're referring to Impact or something on a nitendo console like Neo, which I haven't played.
>>23813981then don't talk out of your ass if you didn't know
>>23813899>>23813650>>23813653They could do Frozen Teardrop.
>>23813976A/R/D/W i think were nearest enemyJ was lowest evasionK onwards was highest HP
>>23813989I think Evasion is a factor in D at least before distanceI've had enemies shooting at someone in the middle of a support defend pile even though the guy at the front is closer and not standing on the better defensive terrain
>>23813992I think they prioritize the most likely kill among nearest units
>>23813992>>23813989I think some games also check whether there's X allied unit within possible range that would get shot down
Transformations were just a novelty for 1 more movement range or a terrain difference back when it mattered. Next game is gonna get rid of Getter forms 2 and 3 and just relegate them to an attack for 1 in order to cut out more fluff.
>>23813997even for a shitpost calling getters fluff is going too far
>>23813894>Bullet sponge game isn't bullet sponge game>Reinforcement hell game isn't reinforcement hell game Neh you're just a contrarian fag. D isn't bad but that doesn't change the fact for what it's bad AT
>>23814002Daitarn 3 will be the next victim, THEN it will be Getter's turn.
>>23814007They already removed Daitarn 3's forms back in Z3 though
>>23814007were Daitank and Daifighter even in V?
>>23814010Yeah no, the seed was already planted
I'm not sure I've ever actually ended a turn transformed into Daitank in any game. Daitarn doesn't get stuck with range or terrain issues generally and in the games with blocking its not really any tankier than the main form.
it's funny that Grungust's alt forms are way more useful than the alt forms that inspired it ever were
>>23814004You can keep repeating it, that still doesnt make it true.
SRW, but the villains are the playable units and the heroes are the enemy characters.
https://twitter.com/flametoys_staff/status/2042529291431477746
>>23814019The Daitank cannon had a long range. Since the Daitarn is quite slow, it wasn't all that useless.
>>23814032Enough making toys, I want a new OG, damn it.
>>23814036Usually its only a small range boost over the leg cannon.Maybe not completely useless but never felt super worth thinking about. You could chalk it up to a failure of game design but the other forms never got much focus in the source material either so I don't entirely blame them.
Impact showers you with so many defensive parts that the only stats worth upgrading for 90% of the cast are EN/Weapons which are also fairly cheap. Bluegar is also like the most broken unit in the game too.
>>23813997it's fucking shin getter dragon again
>>23814019I vaguely remember it coming in clutch for me once in IMPACT
I really love Shin Getter Dragon.
>>23813997For Getter Noir, I would have preferred it to remain as Unit 1, adding a combo attack that summons Getter 2 and 3. Then, when it reaches 130 morale, it can change into Noir G. Deploying three units just to get Getter Noir G would be inconvenient even if we were in the Z1 time, but in DD they finally added Unit 2 and Unit 3, so who knows... maybe in the next game.
>Bump limit in a day and for once it's not due to some off-topic bullshitStill, this is unusual these days, when discussion is this fast is when a new game is announced, but I suppose there is some anticipation for whatever happens in the anniversary.
>>23814007Barely anyone uses Daitank, Daifighter has situational use and we all know that Getter 2/3 are like strictly worse than 1 in Z2 to T.
https://twitter.com/discotekmedia/status/2039081422800257410
>>23814079the people are starved for OG
>>23814082Getter 2's still good enough for grunts in Z2 but Ryoma's ace bonus is stupidI'm glad for Arc in Y at least they finally made the boosts apply to everyone
>>23814082I use Getter 2 a lot.
>>23814084which we will never see since I don't even know if the OG team still exists and with 30, the SRW team has shown that they couldn't make a new OG game even if their lives depended on it.
>>23814084Serious question, what's stopping them from just localizing and re-releasing all the older OG games for quick cash to fund a new one? It's not like they have licensing issues preventing them from re-releasing them unlike the mainline games
>>23814094general bamco incompetencethey haven't even repackaged them or ported them in their origiinal japanese release
>>23814094If they ever bother re-releasing OGs in Japan, which they still have never done, I would imagine they'd pay someone to translate it while they're at itThat's all a big if though.
>>23814094>>23814099>OG games generally sell less>You need to put in the time and effort to subcontract a competent enough team to port the game to modern architecture and then hire a translation team to do OG1/OG2/OGG/2nd OG and maybe redo MD at ittldr its too much effort for too little reward in their eyes
>>23814107Package up the isos into an emulator with a new main menu and call it a day. Unless there's some exec convinced the PS2 portion of the series wouldn't sell without updated visuals I don't think even translation costs would be that big of a dealbreaker for something they can leave up on Steam forever and never have to think about porting again.
>>23814085>>23814083Worth upgrading over the SDBD?
>>23814114Easier said than done.
is alpha's G-3 gundam just slightly better OG gundam
I started "Justice Is on My Side" and it showed Exis on the first stage of SRW 30 if you start on Earth, and the stage where you get J-Decker.
>>23814231Quite the upgrade too
How good is the existing story translation for 2nd OG? I want to replay it.
>>23812774I enjoyed it, sp I day give it a watch. Definitely more of a detective story than anything else.
>>23814160It's basically Grandpa+, yeah.It's good for early-midgame if you're using the UC supporting cast but falls off once you get the Newtype suits or stuff like the Super Gundam.I got some good use out of it in my most recent Alpha run since I wanted to use some side characters a bit more and it's not Newtype locked.
>>23814256It's good, even explains some of the esoteric buddhist stuff in the true ending
When are we getting Pacific Rim in SRW?
dead threaddead franchisedead end shoot
>>23814376You have become light
>>23813888Show your counsin Inhumanoids and Fantastic Planet. As young and alone in the dark as possible.
Alright, it's been like 20 years. Surely we have the full version of So Close Yet So Far from the AP trailer, right?
>>23813905More like SExia.
since NxC was mentioned here...The OP and ED of that game have been digitally remastered:https://x.com/yuzokoshiro/status/2042627462727897586
>>23814541Brave New World still makes me cry like a bitch from nostalgia whenever I listen to it.
>>23814542This but with Someday, Under the Moon (the ED)
