it's time to admit that this movie was shit.
THE shit
>>23822731>main Gundam pilots' new worse personalities aside from Wufei and Duo>Heero and Zechs don't meet to pick up where their final fight ended>Heero became a little bitch begging Wufei to stop fighting when he was a ruthless killing machine in the TV show>story was supposed to answer all unanswered questions, but it brought more unanswered shit>Heero and Relena relationships is still too shallow and just "dude smiles and thoughts lol">the idea of destroying all Gundams because muh peace is retarded because anyone with a brain would consider uprisings and new wars showing up (one manga even did this) and this story further proved to be worthless because of Frozen Teardrop happening
>>23822731It was kino tranny
>>23822733>the idea of destroying all Gundams because muh peace is retarded because anyone with a brain would consider uprisings and new wars >showing up (one manga even did this) and this story further proved to be worthless because of Frozen Teardrop happeningthat ending always get me since they spent a whole a whole arc retrieving their gundams from the meteor after they sent it off to the sun. Even the very opening renders monologue 'as long as mankind exists, there will always be wars' defeats the purpose of their de armingalso this captcha is fucking gay
>>23822733>main Gundam pilots' new worse personalities aside from Wufei and DuoTheir personalities are the same as the show>Heero and Zechs don't meet to pick up where their final fight endedIt ended. Why would Zechs and Heero "pick up" it up again? The conflict is settled and they are on the same side now. They never had personal beef, it was all business.>story was supposed to answer all unanswered questionsWho told you this? Where did Sunrise ever claim this? You made this expectation up in your own head.>Heero and Relena relationships is still too shallow and just "dude smiles and thoughts lol"That's all it was ever meant to be. Again, it doesn't have any obligation to line up with your slash fanfiction.>the idea of destroying all Gundams because muh peace is retarded because anyone with a brain would consider uprisings and new wars showing up (one manga even did this) and this story further proved to be worthless because of Frozen Teardrop happeningYeah because the creators of the series were supposed to look into the future to know that Bandai would commission another sequel 15 years after the fact, okay.
I love it. The series itself not so much. Also I watch it dubbed, it hits that sweet spot of it's clearly anime voice acting but not "the anime voice" acting that I really like. Also the Nataku/Altron redesign is my favorite AU Gundam.
>>23822731Saw it in theaters this year. Still hreat.
>>23822731>it's time to admit that all of wing was shit.fixed
Name one (1) Gundam you don't think is shit.
I mean all of Wing was shit
>>238228940079, Z, Victory, 0080, 0080, G, X, Turn A, Seed, 00
>>23822923>Reddit: The answer
>>23822927I use reddit and they mostly like G witch and GQX because they are gay wholesome chungus.They don't care about anything else unless they want to say Char x Amuro canon gay, Kamille is a girl, Judau and Loran because of the cross dressing, etc..That sub is pure cancer
>>23822949>I use redditYeah you already got called out.
>>23822731I prefer the music arrangement for the OVAs more.
>>23822731Haven't seen it in 20 years but I remember it being like the only /m/ sequel movie I liked. All the others seem to give a giant middle finger to the fans of the series >hey remember the happy resolution of the series? haha actually 5 minutes later shit hit the fan and everyone has been living on the run or dying for years now>usually some mindrape/rape/cuck plotline (I heard they're STILL doing that with that recent Seed thing)>throw in an ending where the main character dies and there's a 50 year timeskip showing his waifu spent her whole life being depressed and staring out the window waiting for him to come back
If only gundam looked this good again.
>>23822741Yeah it really reeks of "This time we really WILL have eternal peace because this is the end of the story and we don't think anyone will pick it up again" when the film just showed how easy it could be for some lunatic to almost throw them back into wars and how fragile the peace really was.
>>23823006This specific audio + visual arrangement for the OVA is what has kept the Wing Zero EW version always in the top 10 fav Gundams, and sometimes even top 5 globally every time they run that poll. I really wish they kept it in the movie version of EW.
Mariemaia was hot.
>>23822989"i only use 4chan because I'm adult" is just a child meme
>>23823781Shut the fuck up.
>>23823731Agreed.
>>23823731
>>23822814>Wing Gundam/Zero is balanced between ranged and melee. Also the most agile of the five.>Deathscythe/Hell, Sandrock and Shenlong/Altron are all melee specialists>Heavyarms is pure ranged>Epyon is pure meleeTriez's autism aside, it's weird how unbalanced some of these Gundams are. Why can't the Heavyarms at least come equipped with a beam saber by default?
>>23824775If there's room enough for a beam saber then you didn't stock enough ammo
>>23824775Heavyarm's has a knife, which is pretty much as effective as a beam saber in this universe. That being said it was implied Heavyarms was intended to have it's ammo used strategically and Trowa's habit of blowing it all immediately was a quirk of his.
>>23824775>Wing Gundam/Zero is balanced between ranged and melee.I do not believe there is much balance when you have a beam saber on the one side and a colony destroying beam cannon on the other.
>>23824775>>23825212Yeah Wing Gundam is made for hit-and-run attacks, idk how anon got the idea that it's balanced.
>>23824775>Wing/Zero is tactical>Heavy Arms is artillery>Deathscythe is hit and run>Shenlong/Altron is assault>Sandrock is command>Epyon is super honorable knighthood duel battlesThat's how I see them.
>>23823299>>hey remember the happy resolution of the series? haha actually 5 minutes later shit hit the fan and everyone has been living on the run or dying for years nowif youre talking about the rebuilds, dont forget the part where the survivors are supposedly grizzled veterans now but act like complete and utter retards.
>>23822731I liked it.
>>23822731The OVA was fine, though.
>>23822731Nah. It's good. Not the best, but good.Like if i don't feel like being depressed on Christmas Eve because i watched War in the Pocket, i put on Endless Waltz.
>>23825245Wing (Zero) is tactical fire, heavily relying on shock-and-awe and single-strike overwhelming force.Heavy Arms is sustained fire, suppression and support.Deathscythe is tactical infiltration and sabotageShenlong/Altron is forward assaultSandrock is holding the lineEpyon is Treize doing a chivalry-LARP
>>23824775Yes all the Gundams are made of Gundamnium and are super durable. But they are not the same. It's better to think in terms of their roles.>Wing Gundam/Zero is balanced between ranged and melee. Also the most agile of the five. Wing Zero is not balanced. It's a mobile beam sniping unit with some beam sabers as a back up. It has some small machine guns for shooting down incoming missiles and harassing the enemy. Wing Zero is supposed to fly to the enemy area, hit them with the buster rifle, and then fly away. It's supposed to be the most mobile of the 5 Gundams.>Deathscythe/Hell, It's a stealth Assassin suit. It does not engage in melee "duels". It disappears, sneaks around, then reappears and hits the enemy with a one hit kill. Using it's giant energy scythe.>Sandrock and Shenlong/Altron are all melee specialists No. It's supposed be a calvary unit.Sandrock is the most heavily armored of all the Gundams and has the thickest armor and two massive physical blades that resemble elephant tusks. You put sandrock in front to absorb hits, and smash enemy formations. Just like calvary units from medieval warfare.Altron is the melee fighter you send in for close combat and duels. He's the knight.>>Heavyarms is pure ranged Yes. But it's role is bombardment and crowd control. Heavy arms provides crowd control and missile bombardment. He covers the other Gundams so they can do their job. Example? Altron is busy dueling a few enemy units at close range. Some other enemies try to charge from behind, but Heavyarms takes care of them and shreds them with bullets before they get close.He's like the machine gunner from WW2 that protects the tanks from enemy soldiers just running up and throwing a bomb or grenade on the tank.>Epyon is pure melee Agreed. Quite frankly the final battle should have been between Epyon and Altron. Treize vs Wufei.
>>23834265The Gundam's weren't designed to work together though. Each was supposed to operate independently
>>23835271This. The scientists designed the 5 gundams independently with total radio silence between eachother. Each one designed their respective gundams to be their own destructive forces. They were entirely intended for exterminating the leftovers of humanity on earth. Any tactical roles they can assume in working in tandem is entirely coincidental.
>>23835279Well the scientists technically didn't design them for mop up, that's just what the Bartons wanted and the scientists pretended to play along. Their plan was to just use the Bartons' resources for their own operation meteor to destroy OZ specifically
>>23835282Nevertheless, each suit was designed independently only with being based on Wing Zero as the template. None of the scientists knew what the other was cooking up on their own suits so mop-up or not, none went in with taking the others into account. So how well they could work together based on what each suit is capable really was just coincidence.
>>23824423Context?
>>23835364that and they really sucked at fighting as a team until like 5 episodes before the end. they're individually fine at mowing down enemies but together they couldn't coordinate to take down an enemy unless quatre decides he wants to give ordersand they STILL split up and go do separate things for most of the final battle
>>23835279>The scientists designed the 5 gundams independentlyThere weren't. All the Gundams were based on Wing Zero as the main blueprint, but modified to each scientist's preferred method of attacking. Some preferred stealth. Some preferred range. Some preferred close combat.
>>23824423No.
>>23840158The Virgo's were wildly inconsistent with their shields. You would have stuff like your webm with them blocking all attacks including beam sabers, but the next you will have beam sabers cutting right through those shields.
>>23834265>stealth>50 foot tall robotwing designs are so shit
>>23844359Space is vast. Have you tried tracking a 50 ft tall rocket in the vastness of space? It looks like a spec of dust through the window. Now wdd F-35 fighter stealth technology to it and a cloaking system, and it's practically invisible to all sensors.
>>23822733>Heero became a little bitch begging Wufei to stop fighting when he was a ruthless killing machine in the TV showHeero is almost all talk. Everyone he threatens to personally kill is still alive by the end and 90% of his opponents end up being mobile dolls.
>>23844370We track cold rocks ten times smaller than that all the time. Something with a thermal environment capable of supporting a person, let alone a fusion reactor or rocket exhaust, is not difficult to track at all even with existing technology. You need to lean pretty heavily on that hyper jammer to make it work (and this is Wing so you can).
>>23844235>There weren't.They were. It's a matter of fact that the scientists had no communication with the other during the years they were building their respective Gundams.>All the Gundams were based on Wing Zero as the main blueprint, but modified to each scientist's preferred method of attackingThat's literally what the anon fucking said. They used Wing Zero as the template and went in their own directions, INDEPENDENTLY. There was no correspondence between either of them.
>>23844241I just reason it to dorothy using the zero system.Well at least for the webm he posted
>>23822732fpbp
>>23844241That's Wing with literally everything. Leo's either blew up if a shot missed them or could tank ridiculous damage depending on if they were faceless enemies getting mowed by the dozens or if a named character was in them. Even the Gundam's themselves could take ridiculous amounts of punishment except if the plot required them to take critical damage after only a few hits.
>>23844598>We track cold rocks ten times smaller than that all the time. Are those cold rocks covered in stealth coating, anti-tracking technology, and cloaking devices? Didn't think so.
>>23844664>They were. No. They were all designing their custom Gundams from a base design they all collaborated on. The Wing Zero. Therefore their Gundams were not "designed independently". They all share the same frame. That's why in the anime the Gundam can be repaired using the exact same spare parts. It's why spare parts for Sandrock also work on Heavy Arms. Even though sandrock engineers never saw Heavy Arms before. Or why parts for Deathsythe also work for Wing Gundam.
>>23825212It's the only Gundam that isn't crippled when its primary armament is disabled. Generally, when fighting the Epyon, the Twin Buster Rifle was off the table because if it hit its mark, it would instantly win the battle. So in every contest against another major character, the Twin Buster Rifle had to either be disabled, or prevented from being used. In spite of that, the Wing Zero was still capable of winning. In contrast, if you deprived the other Gundams of the main armaments, they'd be crippled. Heavyarms' knife is practically worthless if it's all it has to rely on.
>>23822923>Seed>Still hating on ZZ, AND wingPerish
>>23845512The writers couldn't decide how powerful they wanted Epyon's to be. In one episode, Epyon slices a space colony in half with it's beam saber turned up to full power. But then another episode had Epyon's beam saber blocked by a normal beam saber. I think it would have been cool to maybe have Epyron deflect the buster rifle beam with it's beam saber.
>>23844241>but the next you will have beam sabers cutting right through those shields.I'mma be autistic and correct you because that never happenedthe only things they couldn't stop were lasers (no effect, they pass right through) or really big beam cannons that damaged the discs tooobjects can pass through the shield barrier but only with a lot of effort, missiles couldn't withstand it and just explode on contact with the barrier itself
>>23845925>I'mma be autistic and correct you because that never happened If you are going to be autistic, then at least be correct. There's nothing worse than a autistic incorrect person who thinks they are right.>the only things they couldn't stop were lasersWe literally have scenes of the Gundams and Tallgeese ripping right through the deployed shields. If your statement was true, then the Gundams wouldn't have been able to damage them. Think carefully anon! Think!
>>23846380shields only protect from the front, he's intentionally zigzagging from side to side, not poking the saber through the shield
>>23823006What's different about the score for the film cut?
>>23850889Moved some songs around basically. Like when Heero gets Wing Zero. OVA plays Battlefield and the movie plays Last Impression.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yqZF2rrfpkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBBcC6855o4
>>23822731When compared to frozen teardrop it's not.
TWO-MIX - THE END OF THE ENDLESS WALTZsoundtrack is out. Could someone release mp3 versions of the tracks at gofile?
>>23852085maybe not gofile but I'm on it
well guess I don't need to normalize this lol
>>23852085my encodes from some wavshttps://u.pone.rs/omdwpply.zipanother encodehttps://u.pone.rs/vstovgaq.rar
hasty repacks of image(s)
