https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXZ09bkUQyY
https://mega.nz/folder/2QFTFKxJ#1qRPjOjMZjIrEAKt8NR2ig
>>23835245This show sure likes to backtrack on things they establish>everything from Q1 was just a dream and didn't happen.>Nox killed a bunch of people, but never mind that because it was a premonition, and now he's this cool anti-hero.>Minami is not Baku's real sister! But never mind, she's still his sister at heart, and nothing about them will change from this point on.>Zero is Baku's dad and a complete asshole! Never mind, he actually cared about him all along and wanted him to live, even though in the premonition he was just slightly bothered by his own son dying and did nothing to stop it.>Baku will never be Zeztz again! Never mind, he got Zeztz again and is now more powerful than everI think one or two of these are okay for a show, but having so many of them, and some in a short span of episodes, is not really gonna help get me invested. I'm already expecting Sieg to join the team and go in fun adventures with the rest despite the vile shit he's doing currently.
What are your praises and criticisms on the 32nd episode?
>>23835414Fantastic direction, really liked Baku once again this episode, while brief I liked the scene with the cops and Odaka, thought Mibami's actingwas great, glad to see Baku got his bike again, Zero was pretty fun in this episode I didn't like Sieg this episode, a lot of the recontextualization of Zero feels too convinient, having this two-parter immediately after the Minami two-parter feels like a weird decision, after the explanation of how the Nightmares and CODE were created CODE being a recent organization feels really off and makes them feel even more incompetent
Why does Baku still say he's an Agent of CODE during the opening narration? They should've changed it alongside all the other stuff they changed for the second half of the show.
>>23835550to give Sieg credit, he interacts with the cast more than Part 1 Nox did
I couldn't help but laugh during the flashback of egyptian times and shit. I just can't take the aspect of "nightmares are the true culprits behind the wrongs of the world" when in real life, most people forget their nightmares when they wake up. All the Kamen Rider shows have fantastical unrealistic elements, but they find a way to tie it to some reality to make audiences care about it. Geats was total nonsense, but they tied it to real life struggles in life where some people have power over others and exploit them. Comparatively, saying a bunch of monsters from your dreams are the true evil falls completely flat, and just makes every drama from the series feel silly. There are Bond movies with more believability than this.
>>23835595I lost my shit when I saw the plane crashing.NIGHTMARES DID 9/11
>>23835602>The longnosed tribe is born from Nightmares all alongThat explains everything...
>>23835595>There are Bond movies with more believability than thisIt's a kids show, there's no restraint whether it should be believable or not.
Was that cop who saw the bike a callback to something? She called the bike an unknown.
>>23835619She's a new character from the Agito movie that released this month, it's basically a movie ad
>>23835619>>23835628She was the best part of the episode. Which says a lot about the episode.
Nightmares are just scapegoats for the dickheads in this show to get away with their crimes.
>>23835413>Minami is not Baku's real sister! But never mind, she's still his sister at heart, and nothing about them will change from this point on.>Zero is Baku's dad and a complete asshole! Never mind, he actually cared about him all along and wanted him to live,You call a cliche story arcs "backtracking"?
>>23835413>>23835595>>23835719How new are you people?
>>23835245>>23835414Great episode, probably of one of the show's best, although I do have a few complaints. First off, that lore drop segment at the start was pretty nice, although it didn't actually tell us much we didn't know already other than the Nightmares being as old as humanity itself and CODE being an apparently recent organization. I like that the Nightmares are a seemingly natural phenomenon and that they didn't pull the alien card (yet). I don't think the show will end with the Nightmares being wiped out from existence since they're behind very single bad thing that happens in the world and I don't think the heroes will seek to change things radically like that.Yeah, I figured Zeztz was Zero's grand plan to end the Nightmares once and for all. Also, it's interesting to know that the Catastrophe Nightmare was seemingly indeed a product of Baku's subconscious and not a being deliberately put inside him by CODE, but it does match what The Lady said about it many episodes ago, although I have to wonder if there's more to this since a super powerful Nightmare manifesting inside a newborn's dreams sounds like something that shouldn't be a mere coincidence. Still, I wonder what plans The Lady has for it, if any, because Catastrom's debut made it seem like she wanted it to be awakened inside Baku only for her final scheme in the premonition to not involve any of them in any way that was intended by her. Maybe she wants to break the cycle so that the Nightmares come out on top and Nem can keep existing? Although that would contradict her old claim that she just wants the world to remain as is.Also, I looked back on previous episodes and they were definitely setting up the Catastrophe Nightmare as the reason for Baku's bad luck, but The Lady presented it as a theory, so that being retconned is as plausible as it being a red herring.(1/?)
>>23835751I'm confused about whether The Lady was implying Nem was literally a Nightmare born from CODE's wish to end the Nightmares or if she was just speaking in metaphors like usual. If it's the former, I wonder how it ties to her being the product of The Lady's dream to have a baby.There was a nice parallel between Baku, Nem and their respective parents here. I also liked that Baku and Nem gave each other some mutual emotional support instead of it being one-sided support from Baku towards Nem like usual.But Minami once again proves to be the superior Heroine by correctly figuring out Zero loved his son all along (another twist that was fairly predictable), leading to a pretty emotional scene where Baku desperately tries to deny the truth only to realize she was right all along. I like that the bike's return is tied to an impactful moment in the story, really gives some weight to it. I doubt we'll see Baku riding it much more at this point, but I'd like to be proven wrong. I hope Zero continues to be a recurring character after his arrest and that he doesn't disappear for a long period again, he's honestly one of the show's better characters even though the last few episodes prior to this 2-parter did make him look pretty incompetent.Also Three finally showed some emotion during Zero's arrest. I wish we had actually seen him interact with these so-called higher-ups instead of it all happening off-screen, because Three doesn't seem like the charismatic negotiator type at all. I know his backroom dealings kinda work as an excuse as to why he was so inactive, but I still wish he actually did something about all the CODE enemies running around right now, especially since he berated Zero for being so passive in dealing with them.The cops didn't really add anything to this episode (like usual) other than giving Nox a small humanizing moment. I really hope they didn't let him go because it would make them look useless yet again.(2/?)
>>23835760I'm honestly tired of Sieg forcing himself into storylines that were already going well enough on their own. He didn't really add anything to this episode other than hinting he might be a doomer villain, or maybe a secret believer in Zeztz? Honestly I don't know and I don't really give a fuck, since I don't care about his character and his giggling maniac schtick. Really wish he would get off his ass and give us some cool fights again instead of sitting around doing generic evil speeches, he's supposed to be the arc boss but he just feels like a side villain nuisance at best and I dislike that he takes the focus away from CODE.I actually liked the fight between Baku and Zeztz Darkness it felt like a real struggle with how scrappy it got. But I need to know exactly why the belt got busted, because if it's really just due to the overdrive finisher Baku pulled off like the production blog implies, it's gonna make this whole thing seem pretty dumb since there was no reason for him to not pull out Catastrom/Orderm against Darkness. Actually, it would've made sense from a thematic standpoint for Baku to have used those forms in this fight since the Catastrophe Nightmare was brought up during the whole Zeztz origin talk at the start of the episode.Speaking of Orderm, I'm really bummed out to see that it's getting phased out so soon, especially after having such an emotional debut and displaying powers that seemed to be a perfect counter to Sieg's dream twisting bullshit, on top of being presented as the key to finally solve Catastrom's biggest drawback. It really feels like a form that just existed for the Minami 2-parter and nothing else beyond that.Other than that, the episode had really fucking good cinematography and some really good acting, especially on Baku, Zero and Minami's parts. Those three are definitely the best characters in the show by far and these last few episodes are proof of that.(3/3)
>>23835770Also, I'd like to add that I found the G6 girl cameo to be pretty neat and funny.
The TRVKer (truthnuker) speaks
Malgam-looking ass
>>23835414Like:-The fight between Seven and Black Seven was ok.-Zero's characterization was pretty great. I think that sells the whole episode even if everyone knew how things would turn out.- Nightmares doing 9/11Dislike:-For a super dramatic and course changing fight, Seven vs. Black wasn't that epic. I would have liked Black to turn into Black Catastrom while Baku fights it with Orderm. That would have justified the belt breaking.-There's no reason for Baku to not use recovery on the belt.-I don't think making the Nightmares responsible for ALL things bad is a good idea. Making them external monsters like demons or something would make easier the writer's work. I know is cliched but It's better to maintain things simple if you aren't good at writing complex stuff.
It’s quite telling of modern rider that Baku was without his bike for so long yet I barely realized it. Also, I hope Zero left a message in it or something because Baku hasn’t really needed that bike for much recently
>mirror world noises intensifies
>>23835751>. I don't think the show will end with the Nightmares being wiped out from existence since they're behind very single bad thing that happens in the world and I don't think the heroes will seek to change things radically like that.That's why I hated the lore drop as I was watching it.
>>23835751>>23836042Ending's going to be some shit like Baku and pals dismantling/reforming CODE and continuing the fight against the Nightmares properly. That or they defeat the Nightmares and the enemies from the My-th show up in the last two minutes as a stinger
>>23835751Did you forget about helheim? That one planet eater just gone with one simple solution from a mere jobless manlet? This is takahashi's show so baku is surely on his way to godhood. Just wait.
>>23835245Let's hope it stays good til eos.
>>23835245>AI Kino segment at the startB-B-Based Toei.
>That DILF moment with Zero's wink
>>23835591So why wouldn't the recovery capsem work on this?
>>23836053If they erradicate the nightmares they'll end all human suffering.These kinds of stories usually ends with the hero mantaining muh balance and keeping things as they are.
>>23836187Really? Maybe I just watch different media but it's usually the opposite for me. Especially within the context of zeztz being powered by nightmares."The hero removes the reason they became a hero in the first place" is incredibly common in stories. No nightmares? No more reason for zeztz to exist... until the crossover movie/event.
>>23835711She wasn't though, this franchise isn't for you if that what you liked the most of all things rather than the direction or the plot progressionI unironically recommend you to get into Japanese drama, Jikou Keisatsu Hajimemashita is a good place to start
>>23836072zeztz is kinda kino recently...
>>23836211The problem here is that Nightmares are first and foremost the apparent reason of all human suffering, the reason the world isn't perfect.If Baku kills all Nightmares, the world becomes a an utopian paradise. But Japanese are all about muh status quo, muh suffering is necessary to be happy, muh world is beautiful because it really isn't beautiful. This is one hundred percent ending on a nothinburger.
>CODE is made to defend against all kind of super natural/alien threats>Nah, not really, they are for Nightmares onlyMother fuckers, at least be consistent in your narrative.
>>23836072This picture is a curse, you jinxed it.
>>23835944>-There's no reason for Baku to not use recovery on the beltAccording to the next episode synopsis, Baku can't fix the belt with Recovery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrlQ0e-gRCUEpisode 32.
>>23836016Him getting the bike through Zero sending it to him, and Zero just being locked up instead of killed, makes me think Zero gets broken out and assists Baku with the robot form of Zeroider. At least for a single episode, before he potentially bites it.
>>23836532>this, too must be a black c-ACK
>>23836432but anon this is a kids showwho cares about consistency
How's the translation of the Toei Toku Youtube for Agito/Kabuto? Still the trash we got before?
>>23836432I mean, they're basically saying that everything bad that ever happens originates from Nightmares.
>>23835588They still have him as Seven on the production blog with the Capsem chart when Nox and Sieg are listed as "former Four/One". It's kind of annoying.
>>23836187I mean, wasn't Great Leader in Kamen rider the embodiment of all human suffering? He was established as immortal as long as humans continue to be evil.
>>23836814That situation's a bit different because Hongo and company don't really have the means to eradicate all evil and suffering from the world, so they're forced to fight back against the Great Leader and his organizations for the rest of their lives. Meanwhile CODE seemingly does have the means, but doing so is apparently a bad thing.
If Nightmares are behind every horrible event in human history, that means they were behind WWII, which lead to Shocker forming, which lead to the eventual formation of Dai-Shocker, which was lead by Tsukasa Kadoya (AKA Kamen Rider Decade).Which means it was never Decade's fault.
>Orderm isn't final formSo it's just Inazuma Booster 2.0?
>>23836432It's a twist on the idea of extraterrestrial encounters being cases of demonic possession. In Zeztz's world, aliens are Nightmares born from humanity's fears of outer space.
