Let's try a RE-BOOT of our own--useful links--https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entrieshttps://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html>scans of some of the earlier entrieshttps://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/>samples of the ongoing mangahttps://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html>another page with their stuffhttps://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first onehttps://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entriesLast thread>>23699770
No new Reboot volume on dengeki, picrel is still the most recent update. https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot82/Fujioka drew the OP pic MS Girl art for the Kehaar to celebrate the MRS figure so it's at least a piece of art from the man himself to start off the thread. There's been a handful of other things and plenty of fanart in the meantime, hopefully it'll be enough to keep the thread alive for a little while. For example, Gundam Inle's english translation is almost up to the hiatus point now. Also reminder Flag of Titans novel and manga have been translated for a while now.Anons are free to get as autistic as they like about AoZ and discuss anything even tangentially related to it or ask any questions, no matter how basic. Haven't changed anything in the OP text for now, if anyone has any suggestions feel free to share them.Let's see how it goes from here.
>>23912607Meh, make Proto Asshimar kit and we will talk. Make Fenris Wolf too while at it.
And the [Kehaar] figure in question>>23912612Sure would be nice but Bandai is gonna be BandaiAlso strictly speaking it'd be a bit hard to make a Prototype Asshimar kit when there are no depictions of it. [Kehaar] is a modified version of a Prototype Asshimar, Titans yoinked one for their own purposes and it's a parallel, largely unrelated development line from the Asshimar itself.
>>23912618>Also strictly speaking it'd be a bit hard to make a Prototype Asshimar kit when there are no depictions of it. "Prototype Asshimar" is TR3, the "Prototype" name means it is a brand new Asshimar unit.
>>23912622no... no it does not. It's Prototype Asshimar TR-3. Same way Gaplant TR-5 is different from regular Gaplant and Gundam TR-1 is a specific model. It's explicitly, clearly and plainly described as what I said it is.
>>23912622>During the development of the NRX-044 Asshimar, it was determined that the variable system was subjected to significant stress under gravity. Consequently, a prototype was initially built for testing in zero gravity (outer space), where the strain was minimal. The Titans, recognizing the potential of the variable system, seized this prototype - almost by force and, after making their own modifications, completed it as the TR-3 [Kehaar].
>>23912625I'm not gonna include TR6 everytime i say "Woundwort".
>>23912627>Prototype of hovering ground donut is half a robot with fuel tanks on it that only works in spaceI love AOZ nonsense but it is the epitome of Gundam prototype lore bloat
BROS!!?? It's been so long...
>>23912628But nobody's saying you have to do that
Are we alive again? What happened?
>>23912618Even among the AOZ fans it felt like this version of the Asshimar was not super popular. I think the AOZ Hi-Zack would have been a better choice for a Metal Robot figure, especially with the different colors it could have been resold as. Hopefully it will still happen.
Arsenal Base had a card for the whole Black Otter squad a while back. AoZ's characters don't get a quarter of the attention the mecha get so it's nice when they're given even a little bit.
>>23912754it is a pretty random choice, it's not particularly iconic and has little to no shared gimmicks with Hazel or Woundwort. Plus it's goddamn huge which naturally raises the price even more for an already expensive brand. Kehaar of all things getting such a high end figure is a little bit insane from Bandai but it could be a way of showing they have faith AoZ fans will want even this kind of merchandise. While also daring the fans to show their love.It's a weird, unconventional and complicated design, not the sort of thing that could be easily marketed as a model kit, a comparatively more mass appeal brand. Regardless, it's at least good to see it and if something like Kehaar can get a metal robot spirits figure AoZ's future is looking bright.
AOZS THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED/ANNOUNCED SINCE LAST THREAD YEARS AGO>Bandai:HG Hazel Icarus >BootleggersHG Advanced Kehaar II by AK ModelMG Hazel Owsla HG Hazel CustomHG Hazel Custom by AK with updated parts (pic related)Also everything else that has been attached to the HG Hazel including the Chobham armor from the no grade Hrududu kitHG Hizack Custom also by AK1/144 ReHaze kit 1/120 (maybe 1/144?) Gelgoog IIII think this is all.Essentially, we're living in the golden age of AoZ.
>>23912784We really are. Have been for a while, honestly. What other series has been getting pretty consistent yearly kit releases? Only thing that really eclipses it is ongoing animated projects, but after they're over even they don't get this kind of frequency. Older series or other non-animated stuff? Astray gets a shit ton more MGs but they're rarer too. And that's without getting into the current boom of bootleg kits, especially the new AK Hazel and its accessories.I don't really like the modified proportions and don't care about articulation that much but the other assorted stuff? I've been waiting for bootleg Hrududu and Primrose for YEARS.I wonder what Fujioka is cooking in the meantime.
>>23912784Huh. They seem to be overhauling the proportions to look closer to the lineart. I kinda like the extra chonk the HG has though.
>>23912784Any word on when we're getting that bootleg Hazel upgrade kit? There's no sign of it on Ali.
>>23912827Q3 2026. So don't count on getting one until around October or so.The Advance Kehaar II is slated to release before it.
The best part of the upcoming Advanced Kehaar II is that it comes with both the ReBoot hover legs and the Flag of Titans ground type feet. The slippers has not been forgotten by time.
>>23912837Advanced Kehaar is already out, no? The prices are rather ridiculous though
And since I'm at it might as well ask; what's up with the sub arm behind the weapon container? For what purpose?
Can the lore experts chime in on what are these things anyway? I think I read somewhere that one of these missiles are nuclear tipped but some don't even look like weapons.>>23912847No, I don't think so. I can only find it for preorder on AliExpress. And yeah, the price is really odd. They cost about as much as buying the AK Woundwort + the Kehaar II parts.This is why I'm not preordering anything. Maybe they are including the whole Woundwort kit and the standard Kehaar parts along the Advanced bits? Their preview images for the Kehaar II didn't include the long rifle which led to me to buy three of those that are just lying around somewhere now.
>>23912848It's how the container is supposed to attack onto a MS, a versatile subarm that can be compatible with all sorts of locations and configurations. Though naturally on a kit it's a lot more sensible to have it plug into the shoulders/head/hrududu with the bottom part instead
>>23912852based on >>23912854 these seem to be from left to right:>micro missile pod>bit container>TR series generator>no idea honestly>I-Field generatorshame there's no wire tether or bathI wonder if you can take out the insides and fit a folding bazooka or Mk-II's shield in there. Seems about right?
and on that note I still think it's fucked up we got the full graph of these container options with Vol 95 but it's TOO GODDAMN SMALL TO READ ANY OF IT WHAT THE HELL MAN
>>23912852>>23912864at least one of those are supposed to be a beam focus thing used by the Queenly
>>23912881That's the inside of the outer lid, no?That said the details DO match it seems. Gonna have to look into it and see if this is described anywhere.On another note there's also the funnel container function (different and bigger than the bits listed here) but that's probably left for the hopefully inevitable TR-6 Hrairoo
>>23912765>it's not particularly iconic and has little to no shared gimmicks with Hazel or Woundwort.I wouldn't claim anything from AOZ is "iconic". It is conceptually a niche art collection of Zeta related mechs. I would say Prototype Asshimar is alot more regconizable compares to Woundwort's random clusterfuck customizations.
>>23912896Of course it's all niche in the grand scheme of things, but relative to big names within AoZ Kehaar is rather low-key. Hazel and Woundwort are by far the most commonly referenced things with Hrairoo not far behind. Kehaar is definitely rarer. It doesn't have the classic Gundam design nor distinct take on it or just plain coolness like the aforementioned suits. Hell, it doesn't even have the classic grunty charm a Hizack would. It's just its own strange, Dom-headed thing that's definitely not everyone's cup of tea. It's not popular by any real measure. Yet here it is with a 30k yen figure with all sorts of bells and whistles. It's bizarre, it's absurd, it's financially questionable yet it's the exact sort of thing Bandai does when they're feeling crazy.It's not entirely unlike choosing to animate Hathaway and go for Xi and Penelope that are rather close to the novel designs in all their rather ugly weirdness and unabashed uniqueness. Don't get me wrong, I love them but they are undeniably an acquired taste and go against most mecha conventions you can think of. Yet Bandai went and used them as the flagships for their big-budget, big-name movie project spanning years and years. It would have been so easy to go with something closer to GFF versions, something more palatable to general consumers yet they went with the radical and the new and the strange just because they could.
Also on topic of Hathaway, here's Fujioka's review of the second movierough translation:>The atmosphere of the film, which made the protagonists’ presence and determination feel so tangible.>I am a wheelchair user. My only outing is my monthly hospital appointment. Each time, I soothe myself with a few limited pleasures. This month, I’d decided to go and see "The Sorcery of Nymph Circe". As I felt with the previous instalment, I was taken on a truly epic journey. Needless to say, I was thoroughly satisfied with the story and the Mobile Suit battles, but it was the atmosphere of the film that made the protagonists’ presence and determination feel so tangible. I was deeply moved to experience, through a pleasant sense of immersion, the subtleties of travel - something I’d given up on ever being able to do again after my accident - by the time I left the cinema.>My personal treat after the screening was examining the mecha designs by Hajime Katoki, an artist I greatly admire. The designs reflect a stylistic beauty—the same base frame plus reinforced armour—which mirrors the TR Project, allowing me to rediscover both my delight in them and how the Universal Century timeline is maintained.>I’d usually avoided going to the cinema out of consideration for the staff and other patrons, but this time was an exception. As I needed time to check the location of the toilets, the layout of the venue and find my seat, I arrived an hour early.>I vowed to live as long as possible - without causing any inconvenience to others - so that I might continue to enjoy excellent Gundam works in the future.And apparently 0083 is his favorite work. Not really surprising.
He likes Hala too
>>23912784>1/120 (maybe 1/144?) Gelgoog IIII was right, it is about the same size as the RG Sazabi.
>>23912784>1/120 (maybe 1/144?) Gelgoog IIII understand the bizarro world scale is pretty accurate, darn thing is like a head taller than RG Sazabi which seems way too tall. It's not an 18m suit, certainly, but our only definite point of reference is that it uses the exact same backpack as Regelgu albeit with larger missile launchers. Gelgoog backpacks are relatively large but there's no shot that works out for this size. Ideally someone out there could post a comparison of the Gelgoog III and Regelgu kit but that's easier said than done.
>>23912954>Ideally someone out there could post a comparison of the Gelgoog III and Regelgu kit but that's easier said than done.I'm getting my shit ready to build the Gelgoog III. I don't have a ReGelgoog kit because fuck Zeon lol but I can post comparisons with Hazel or GM Quel.
>>23912954>darn thing is like a head taller than RG Sazabi which seems way too tall.No it isn't lmao. If you don't count the fin, it is slightly shorter than RG Sazabi. You can modify its height using the articulation on the hips, but the default height is of HG Messer's height.
>>23912964
>>23912959that's close enough I guess, if a backpack from Quel looks a tad too small to fit on the Gelgoog III then the scale is alright since Regelgu's backpack is bigger than Quel's>>23912964>>23912965Guess I got wrong intel then, my bad. I was told it's taller than Sazabi and about on par with the RG Hi Nu and Gustav KarlHere it looks pretty okay size-wise. I don't like the sculpt of the kit itself but that's unrelated.
>>23912952It's 1/144. If this scaling is too big then Gelgoog 3 must be at the size of Dennan Zon.
>>23912969that's assuming Gelgoog's and Messer's shields are supposed to be 1:1 identical rather than just very similar which is unclearhow does the rifle stack up to Sazabi's long rifle or Nightingale's rifle? The official pics make Gelgoog's rifle look weirldy anemic
>>23912972Slightly longer than Sazabi's rifle and seems to be the same size with Nightingale's rifle. The 1/144 long rifle is meant for Moon so the size might be abit truncated.
>>23912968Even with the height mod, it doesn't seem that big next to RG Sazabi. For something that wields Nightingale rifle and Messer shield, this size is quite appropriate.
>>23912976>>23912977fair enough then, if nothing else 1/120 doesn't make sense here either. I still feel like it's a bit too large but I guess we won't know for sure until a legit kit comes out. For now we might as well agree it's intended to be 1/144
>>23912981I doubt the actual scale of Gelgoog III is small. Regelgu is already huge and miniarization technology hasn't existed yet.
>>23912896I'd say the base woundwort fairly is iconic considering how different (at least on the surface) it is to everything that came before or after.>>23912969>>23912972Yeah, this is an odd one. The fact that Circe gave us the Type-M01 Messer with its own shield design further complicates things
>>23913000Type M's shield is smaller because it lost several functions. It is not the same type of large shield Gelgoog3 and F Messer have.
>>23913000Fujioka confirmed Gelgoog 3 is as big as Sazabi, so, there you go.
>>23913010Huh. Well, that settles it. I do wish he'd include stuff like height stats in the Reboot volumes but I can understand why these things are somethings vague. Great to have a clear word here. I take back everything I said about its height.
>>23912848The AK Advanced Kehaar is really strange to me. The antenna on the head is in a completely wrong place. No ambiguity in the art, it's clear as day where it's located. And the Weapon Container geometry just ain't right, you can easily tell the sides are too wide for example.At the same time they're going all out with attention to other details and loads option parts, plus now they're reworking the Hazel too so it's not like AK is just phoning it in with their AoZ kits or not paying attention to the source material. It's just so weird. I think I'm gonna hold off on this kit at least for some time even when/if the price drops to a sane level. It's one of these things that could easily get a legit p-bandai kit any day. I've been saying that for years, but even so I might wait for that and the bootleg of it instead of snagging this one.
>>23913289AOZ's lineart is not the best at consistency so you should expect the kits to be 1:1. Reben Wolf's head changes shape between the full body art and the head shot. Not to mention Woundwort kit had to be a partsformer because it changes body volume upon the transformation.
>>23913428*Shouldn't. Sorry.
>>23913428Okay but like I said this isn't a matter of inconsistent depictions, that's just straight up not how Advanced Kehaar looks
>>23913667It is the same Bandai's articulated antenna, you can adjust its position. >And the Weapon Container geometry just ain't right, you can easily tell the sides are too wide for example.It has the same thickness as Queenly's container.
>>23913689I'll give you the weapon containers, though it's odd for them to refer to this drawing instead. But the antenna just isn't in the right place anon, and it clearly doesn't move like that. The kit's head is just completely smooth there. Nevermind the muzzle on high mega cannon itself also doesn't look right.
>>23913781The antenna thingy is the most adjustable thing on Kehaar kit. Just fold it to whatever the position you like.
>>23913792yeah it can swing back and forth but certainly not far enough to match the illustration, you can see there's no room for it to move there
Oh shit we're back! How's we've been fellas? Been working on anything? I built some stuff.Pic related is the AK Hizack Custom in Titans color next to Bandai's vanilla one. I gave it a third party gun because I thought it looked like something Fujioka would draw. If anyone is wondering the AK bootleg is pretty good.
Here is the Re-Haze kit next to a ReZeon Kehaar II and the ReZeon HG GM Quel for size comparison.The kit itself it pretty good. Doesn't transform but I think that's fine. It generally feels more solid to handle than the HG Hyzenthlay II. It has an articulated crotch subarm and those spikes on the shoulders can be used as some sort of boomerang. Also come with two beam sabers with green blades.The biggest issue is that it can't handle the massive cannon very well. It has the same construction as the HG TR-6 wrist which already struggles with the CSB. Give it a massive barrel on top and it becomes flimsy as hell. I had to reinforce the entire arm and wrist section to hold this pose. And the rifle fell off from the hand once already. You can judge the size by the Quel. I can't display it next to the Hyzenthlay for comparison because mine is disassembled at the moment. The lighting isn't ideal but I'm hesitant to move it because it's shaky as shit on that action base. And I still don't understand the physics of why it holds itself up since the base is shoved into the TR-6 pod on the back.So overall it's a good kit with some issues inherent to the design.Next to that is the Kehaar II. The Kehaar parts are by AK so they're pretty good. The base TR-6 is another bootleg. By a company called XYS I think? It's not very good. Holds together well enough but the details are quite mushy compared to the original. I actually bought two to display as escorts for the Re-Haze but then they announced the Advanced parts so I'm putting a hold on that.
And here is the HG Hazel Icarus. Also pretty good. Building it I noticed Fujioka completely redesigned the beam cannon form of the Hazel rifle between Flag of Titans and ReBoot. The rifle released by AK is the FoT variant. The Hazel Icarus comes with the ReBoot one.
Here is a comparison. Top is FoT and bottom is ReBoot. I prefer the look it had in FoT imo.
>>23913795There is more than enough room. AK Model shown a WIP before.
>>23913823It is abit disappointing how the Bandai gun doesn't have folding mechanic like the Effect Wings one.
>>23913844here the antenna is EVEN more out of place, way above the point where it's supposed to be attached
>>23914002anon is saying the antenna is moveable presumably the cannon is attached to the face so there shouldn't be anything blocking you from making the antenna sit flush with the cannon like the lineart
>>23913818I've heard pretty rough things about the build quality on this thing, guess it's not so bad after all. Personally I was considering it but I suspect p-bandai ReHaze is not far off and I'd like a version with fully realized gimmicks like the transformation. Still, this is looking really good and a whole shelf of ReZeon suits is badass.
>>23913932it does fold, it's just a simply parts swap insteadnot as impressive, sure, but probably more stable overall. Might be for the best if they intend to do the significantly bulkier and heavier rapid fire version. Which they probably are.
>>23912667It's really not that weird >Oakland Lab: "It's still just a prototype, but in the end, it'll transform into a disc and fly under gravity~">Titans: "Huh... We'll be taking that.">A: "Wait, that's an important proto-">Ti: "Transformation's handy, huh... Disk mode's a hassle, guess we'll scrap it. Don't need it in space, right? The legs aren't even finished. Boosters will do just fine."
>>23914044>but probably more stable overall. Nah the parts will fall apart after a while once the KPS has loosen. EW ver is just better in any possible way, it even has a locking mechanism.
>>23914038Chink Rehaize's build experience is not that atrocious but the kit's quality is not great.
Can Bandai just hurry up and make Reben Wolf commander and Custom already? It has a bunch of hard points for new parts.
Anyone know anything about this little guy? It was a collectible magazine thing? (1/3)
>>23915025(2/3)
>>23915027(3/3)
>>23915025It was Titan's test unit to see if GMII is worth using. They retrofitted GM Custom to make it match RGM-79R 's performance in theory.
>>23915073Also, that magazine kit is the standard type of Titan's GM Custom. There are high mobility type and sniper type since GM 2 is a multi purposed MS so the test units must pull the same thing.
>>23915073Well I was thinking more on the toy side of things, like was this part of a line of figures, what other figures exist? Seems to have been a thing 20 years ago but I've never heard of the line or seen old/secondhand figures for sale in any shops.Also it's not the RGM-79CR testing model for the GM II specs, it's just the basic C type.
>>23915098>Also it's not the RGM-79CR testing model for the GM II specs, it's just the basic C type.You can literally see the test team confirmination right there on the box art lol. High Mobility and Sniper type are just different variants.
>>23915098There is an EWAC variant too. Titans just slapped new parts on this bad boy and gave it different names.
>>23915025It's from the Ultimate Operation figure series, here's more info on them:https://gundaniumgateway.blogspot.com/p/check-list-fwuo.htmlGM Type CR was a special release included with a Dengeki Hobby magazine, not unlike a bunch of other AoZ goodies from that timehttps://gundaniumgateway.blogspot.com/2013/06/ultimate-operation-advance-of-z-rgm-79c.html
>>23915098>it's just the basic C type.That's GM type C used by Test Team to evaluate GM 2 and has been retrofitted. The basic C type has 4 verniers on its backpack and 2 under it's anus. Your toy looks completely different.
I actually want to see more of Titans GM custom. Unfortunate it fell out of favor once they start producing GM 2.
>>23915148>>23915117>>23915112Sorry, I stand corrected. I assumed it was just a C type painted in the TTT colors for their specific deployment since the toy doesn't have the additional chest vent and sensor that I thought earmarked it as the model meant to meet GM II specs.
>>23915171>Sorry, I stand corrected.You are a stubborn lad
>>23915173Man, I already admit defeat, what do you want from me? I thought it was one of those lore things where on the outside it looks like this but according to multiple people it's actually the other way so it's probably one of those factoids that is counter-intuitive because someone already explained that it was a matter of swapping out parts
>>23915177Oh wait i misread your post lol. Ok ok, i'm sorry.
>>23915178Yeah man it's all good, since I didn't unseal the figure (>>23915029) it was still in the bag with the white plastic tray and I couldn't see on the backpack it had different thrusters
>>23915177The only thing that's lacking is the additional verniers on the calf since GM 2 has them, but then again, it doesn't have the back pack vernier set either so this unit is probably just one of the numerous offshoots like SR Sniper and Ewac.
>>23915180This is how the toy looks like from behind. The paint quality looks so much worse than the box art sample. And gotta be honest, it is hard to tell if this backpack and buttskirt are brand new addition to this unit or originated from another machine.
>>23915185>it is hard to tell if this backpack and buttskirt are brand new addition to this unit or originated from another machine.I honestly wouldn't know, it's one of those things I can't figure out by just looking at it. I mainly only noticed how big the shoulders are so it looked a bit goofy at first>The paint quality looks so much worse than the box art sampleYeah, I don't even want to unseal it not because I think it'd be worth anything but I just don't want it to deteriorate much over time since it's already over 20 years old
>>23915190Now i actually looked deeper into this and this whole thing is funny. Both T3 GM Type C and the regular Type C use the same mold with different coat of paint and Bandai actually redesigned this thing beyond regconition: Giant shoulders, beam saber so fat it can pass as a mounted cannon and the lack of verniers on the backpack and under the taint.In other words, it is a toy exclusive design for a Type C unit that doesn't actually exist in the lore, both the Federation and the Titans. The T3 version obviously meant to be resemble Fujioka's artwork for RGM-79CR, the same emblems and same paintjob.
>>23915196yeah this is nothing new, these sorts of toy lines tend to be more liberal with their designs
>>23915199FOT vol 1 actually featured what a correct Titans Type C would look like. Unless Fujioka puts this guy in the lore, it is non-canon.
>>23915199It is sort of fine if they wanted to add some more geometry and panels on the design, but removing visible details like thrusters is a crime. Can you imagine a Nightingale toy without a gorrilon amount of thrusters? That would be fucked up.
>>23915201>Unless Fujioka puts this guy in the lore, it is non-canon.okaybut, like...who gives a fuck? it's just a different depiction of the same thing>>23915207you people are way more dramatic about this stuff than literally anyone involved in the production of it
>>23915212>it's just a different depiction of the same thingEhhhh i just want to see an evil GM custom.
>>23915220GM custom is just straight up different suit though
>>23915221Quel is not as cool.
>>23915228dawg
>>23915238That's 79N. I'm talking about 79C. They are related, but not the same thing that i want to see. This thing being evil would be cool.
>>23915253So you're not talking about GM Custom then
>>23915258I'm talking about it. 79C's actual name in Japan is "Jimu Kai" ( GM Custom ), "Type C" is just a localization. RGM-79N has "GM Custom" name in Japanlish ( Jimu Kasutamu ). https://bandai-hobby.net/item/01_1763/
>>23915268yes, we all know GM Custom and GM Kai (aka Type C) are different suitsnot a single soul in the world refers to the latter as GM Custom because that's straight up not its name
>>23915273>that's straight up not its nameI refuse to follow localization unless it is a super convienient name. Never say Gundam Asmoday, always Gundam Asmodeus and you can't correct me.
>>23915273Ackshually it RGM-79N and RGM-79C but you do you.
>>23915276but... it's still not called GM Custom in japanese either that's a whole ass separate suit from the same fucking show
Here is a comparison between the beam cannon in FoT and ReBoot. I prefer the way it looked like before. But then I noticed that most things that were redesigned in ReBoot looked better FoT, I think.Forgot to mention that Bandai had to significantly downscale the Hazel rifle encased on the cannon. Probably to look closer to the lineart. The AK version meanwhile slaps parts on top of a regular sized Hazel beam rifle. Which leads to it being bigger than it should be. Maybe.Lineart accurate is good. But then I don't see why Bandai would bother so much when the Hyzenthlay kits are already Xi Gundam sized when they're supposed to be closer to the Ex-S.>>23914038I thought about not getting one because it doesn't transform. But then I came around and decided to get either a Bandai one or maybe wait for that manufacturer release the transformed mode and display both.>>23914706There's a pretty big tab that attaches the barrel to the rest of the gun. It's not gonna get loose anytime soon man.
>>23915328They are completely different design so there is no point comparing them. But if you want to know about the size, the difference is not that drastic. EW rifle is thicker, but that's mainly for the transformation mechanic and engineering, the thing is still just a 1/144 kit.
>>23915328The funny thing is that EX S is only 1 meters shorter than Xi when you include her bulk behind the back. It is just HG Xi's size got balooned to MG level.
>>23915372their head heights are completely different though and thes are a lot more relevant. Proportionally, Ex-S has a lot more stuff above its head, depending on depiction even shoulders are on level with the v-fins not to mention the backpack cannons jutting outby comparison the entirety of Xi's mass is at or below head level, it gives them a completely different vibe. Plus comparing the HGs isn't really perfect since the old Ex-S is a bit on the stumpy side.
>>23915328>Hyzenthlay kits are already Xi Gundam sized when they're supposed to be closer to the Ex-S.Nah, HG HazenThley is closer to Psycho Gundam size and 3 times larger than Ex S ( To be fair, it is an old HG so the scale is fucked ).
>>23915328I prefer the new design myself, the empty space looked nice but the more "clumped up" form now works better when it's treated as a variation of a wide-spanning weapon system. The old form kinda makes it look like an oversized handle too.But either way I like the rapid fire version more. And the other rifle extension too, this one's badass.
>>23915328>Forgot to mention that Bandai had to significantly downscale the Hazel rifle encased on the cannon.I believe it is actually downscaled in Reboot, too. The base gun seems much shorter than how it looked originally.
Rapid Fire better comes with Advanced Marasai
>Rehaze>Gelgoog III>Advanced Kehaar with a Queenly follow upChang-sama! Make Advanced Hizack, Marasai, Galbaldy and my life is yours!
>>23915283Technically its real name is GM Kai but i don't want to sound like a weaboo everytime i mention its name. Just my personal petpeeve
Funny how I spent the longest time wishing for a Hazel Icarus kit, but now that it's here and I have it I keep looking at the prototype version instead.You can't deny that it has a fearsome looking back.
>>23915524I love how they tried to give it silly shoes only to backtrack because Hazel's shoes are fine as it is.
>>23915524that backpack head always gets me like
>Draws a Xeku Eins>Calls it a MarasaiGenius
The Primrose chest for Hazel is noted to still have the chest latch of the same standard as Hazel Custom so though we haven't seen it yet we know it can attach the same gear such as Hrududu's extra armor or the Icarus chest piece.And among mobility options listed as compatible with Hrududu II there's Icarus unit, I imagine the shoulder units.AFAIK the kit doesn't represent this at all but can any HG Hazel Icarus haver confirm or deny whether the geometry works out on the gunpla? Whether attaching the chest unit onto Owsla or having the sides connected to Hrududu II.
>>23916347There is no issue giving Hrududu to Icarus since it has the same Hazel Custom backpack, but you can't use any Icarus parts for Owsla. Bandai actually made a new torso for Hazel Custom in order to secure Icarus chest and shoulders in place.
>>23916409Fair enough with Owsla really, I reckon it shouldn't be too hard to modify at least. But with Hrududu I meant the other way around - giving Icarus to Hrududu, as it were. I think the idea is the Icarus shoulders attach to Hrududu's drum frame. Obviously the kits don't fit like that but how does it look to have these next to the Hrududu units?It seems kinda pointless on Hazel since they can attach to the chest but it could be interesting on other units.
>>23916437I did attatched it to the same hard point as Owsla because the backpack is the same. For Icarus, you can't remove the shoulders since it is a single piece with the chest.
>>23915445There is another.
>>23916560I hate Nemo
>>23916597:O
makes you think...
>>23917622Hambrabi is only good when it is a nontransformable stingray.
>>23912946>About the Shelf Nozzle>“In my mind, I define the shelf nozzle as a piece of equipment that began development somewhere around U.C. 0087 to 0088. It was probably being tested on machines like the GM III or the Jegan. There may also have been mounting methods like attaching them to the arms, as with the Gaplant, or equipping only a single unit on the back, as with the Hazel. I imagine the number of nozzles installed would also have varied depending on the operation. Now, with the shelf nozzles making an appearance, some people may have jumped to the conclusion that ‘this must connect to the Buffo Concern or the Crossbone Vanguard,’ but a shelf nozzle is simply a generic term for thrusters stacked in a shelf-like arrangement. Shelf nozzle does not equal proprietary Buffo technology. I mean, funnels are built by Neo Zeon and Anaheim Electronics, right? So whether this technology connects directly to Buffo is still anyone’s guess.” (Genma)It's really cute and cool how Alyzeus and its surrounding technology fits in with AoZ ideas, plus the implicit acknowledgement Hazel is part of the foundational UC setting as much as animated suits.
>>23917663The Alyzeus is what your average AOZ design would look like if the artist wasn't as talented as he is
>>23917707Most of "good" designs in Hathaway are modeled after older ones. Azyleus reflects the current sentiment of mecha designers, just slap as much details as you can on your OC Donut Steel, ignore rule of cool and just add more details.
>>23917707you do know Fujioka is Katoki's biggest fanboy and he loves Alyzeus right?
>>23917711You do know that doesn't matter and I didn't fucking ask right
>>23917716Okay, nobody asked for your take either. If you don't like Alyzeus that's alright, nobody is forcing you to. And nobody is stopping me from sayingCry about it lol
>>23917711>you do know Fujioka is Katoki's biggest fanboy and he loves Alyzeus right?Katoki designed the core MP Nu. Alyzeus probably made by cgi team entirely.
>>23917717Bro delete this right nowI'm fucking crying bro
>>23917721objectively falsehttps://zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=12784He was involved in every step of the design, one of the reasons Hathaway is such a masterpiece.
>>23917727That interview literally said Katoki didn't design it alone, the animation director and movie director told him alot of no during the conception.
>>23917727>MP Nu almost had Crossbone styled armor>Faggy director wanted an ugly rehash of Penelope insteadWe were robbed!
I still feel insulted that what is probably the only animated appearance of the MP Nu existed only to horribly job in like 2 minutes.
>>23917742It doesn't even look like Okawara's MP Nu so nothing of value was lost.
>>23915427>>23915445I would love me some changified System Weapons. Especially if they included parts to make the revolver version>>23917740>>23917727Was picrel ever confirmed legit? If so, we have a surprising amount of insight into the Alyzeus's development
>>23917727Alyzeus look like shit as a design but is somehow cool in the movie. It reminds me of Balteus from AC6.
>>23917783It got the HWS skirt so i guess this leak is real.
>>23915445what I wouldn't give for watership 4.5 to be reasonable available 'round hereOn that note, their Icarus.
>>23917852and some more variation play ideas
>>23917852What even are these things on the Icarus anyway?
>>23918069beam reflectors iirc
>>23918069They're beam reflectors, I don't think there's a direct statement but the implication seems to be they're tied to Psycho Mk-II's reflector INCOMs or at least utilize similar tech, just not as miniaturized.I remember someone in a past thread mentioned there's a heavy metal with very similar reflectors on the chest in L-Gaim and I also remember seeing that when i rewatched it a while back but now I can't find any pictures of it...
>>23918131*reflector bits, woops
>>23918131That'd be Calvary Temple
I love MS Igloo nods like these, including Reben Wolf Commander type.
>>23918188It's no surprise really, Fujioka worked on Igloo. Oggo is his child.
>>23915328>Hyzenthlay kits are already Xi Gundam sized when they're supposed to be closer to the Ex-S.Well it is as tall as Ex-S. The 1/100 one.
I hope this sort of question is welcome here. I’m trying to make the Hazel Owsla Rah II and wanted to see if this list of kits will get me all the parts I need:HG Hazel Owsla Mass Prod. TypeHG Hrududu IIHG Primrose (for the second chest missile pod)HG Hrududu (for the blade rifle)Alternatively are there any kits that have spare parts that would make buying one of these kits redundant? I have singles of pretty much every other AoZ kit (though only 1x MP Owsla)
>>23919202Owsla Gigantic Arms alone should have enough parts for you. You do need to scratch build the gun, forehead and vfin though.
>>23919202Just to double check, you are talking about pic related yes?If so you've got it right, this is probably the simplest way of getting it besides buying the Hazel with Gigantic Arm Unit since that includes all of this. Instead of MP Owsla you could buy Advanced Hazel and two Primroses but it amounts to the same thing really. By the way Hrududu is also important here for the central backpack part between the Hazel pod and the Hrududu II units.https://gundamsblog.net/ has a pretty nice list of different AoZ combinations and what kits you need for them, it's linked on the sidebar. You can find Owsla Rah II under Owsla Fourth Equipment
>>23919211Thank you anon. I do like the idea of buying another gigantic arms like >>23919208 said just to reduce the amount of kits I need, but unfortunately I can’t find one for cheap enough at the moment and I would rather not cannibalize the one I have.
>>23919231I mean, it is literally just taking off the big guns and you're done, hardly cannibalizing in most cases. But I can understand wanting to have both at the same time, if it makes things any easier Advanced parts, Primrose and Hrududu are all getting bootleg releases soon
>>23919232the bootleg Primrose and Hrududu are fantastic for obvious reasons, but the Advanced upgrade parts >>23912827 are also interesting with how at least some of them are newly molded, same as the Hazel upgrades. The Enhanced Shield Booster is color separated, the heel thrusters are in the Reboot style and it includes a fuel tank for the Multi-Connector pod so you don't have to be like me and leave your Xeku Eins sitting there awkwardly with three fuel tanks.
Fujioka's art for Mobile Racer Wayger, an abandoned Gundam project meant to launch after Gundam X in Comic Japan.A teaser was included in the comic's debut issue but the magazine went on permanent hiatus immediately afterwards and Mobile Racer Wayger was lost in the limbo left behind. Fujioka was meant to be involved in a version that'd run in RPG magazine at the same time, but that one was cancelled at the same time. Notable mostly because it's one of his first official involvements with Gundam, if not the very first.
>>23919567Did you just willingly ignore that Zeonic said it was supposed to be an anime before shifting to a comic format, or are you just that illiterate? Also, the RPG magazine run wasn't canceled. It ran for like half a year at least. There's pics of future chapters.
>>23919578Zeonic wrote about it? Huh, so he did. Welp guess I fucked up on my research then, my bad
>>23919581Bitch, you stole that pic he uploaded from fucking Reddit. Don't act like you don't know.
>>23919587Nope, I found the pic on 2chan though apparently that image got deleted now. I guess that doesn't sound believable but I don't really care t b h
>>23919589Doesn't really matter in the end, but god damn are you a lying sack of shit.
>>23919627Anyway have a little Galbaldy and let's bury the hatchet.
not /aoz/ per se but Double Fake Reprise manga is starting in this month's Gundam Ace issue, it's either a modern remake or some kind of closely connected story. Double Fake is one of these rather classic Gundam manga that fell by the wayside but has been consistently referenced in the last few years. Especially in F90FF and Cluster, not unlike AoZ. It's also set in a similar timeframe as Gundam Inle and it's the origin of the BR-GM and we love BR-GMs don't we folks?
for something featured so prominently in the model kits, the enhanced shield booster sure doesn’t show up in a lot of arteither that or i’m just not looking hard enough
>>23920419Sounds soulless. The 80's art is the biggest draw of Double Fake if you ask me.
>>23920590Does it feature in model kits a lot though? It's really just Advanced Hazel that highlights it. A bunch of kits have the parts for it because AoZ runner structures are the funniest shit ever
>Mk-III variant from Silver Phantom mangait's so fucking hot
>>23920635It's weird that it was even made into a kit at all. There are no color illustrations of it even.
>>23920637There is one in FOT Volume 5. They are equiped on Primrose.
>>23920697I remember coming to the conclusion that pic related was supposed to use the alternate booster when looking at the lineart and drawings. Don't remember why I came to the conclusion though.
>>23920776this part maybe? I don't think normal shield booster has it jutting out right at the edge like this
>>23920780I think that was it yeah. Funny how the MG gave it the other one. Doesn't really matter though.
>>23920636Holy fuck. It’s beautiful
>>23920828possibly the best part is that since it's an unholy (sexy) fusion of Halpuley and MSF Mk-III it has a non-zero chance of getting a kit, most of the body itself is already done
>>23920633Eh not really. Original Double Fake has a cult following but it's pretty unanimously agreed to be badly made and not up to standard of contemporary works. Back then Bandai was a lot more lax with just letting anyone write anything, so some stuff ends up like a mediocre doujin. The story has a heart and good ideas for sure, but the execution as a manga is amateurish.Reprise seems to fix this.
>>23920865>Bandai>FixLol. Lmao even.
>>23920635incredibly unfair that they made a MG shield booster set but nothing for HG. I know there’s bootlegs coming out soon but I’ve already bought so many kits just for the shields
>>23920636>it gets betterHalpuley stocks have never been anywhere NEAR this high
>>23920635>AoZ runner structures are the funniest shit everIt is known.
>>23920636Ain't feeling it. It's the same issue I have with the X-Pack for the F90. The Crossbone style thrusters just look too thick. The leaner design of the Crossbone thrusters look more appealing to me.
>>23921395this isn't even trying to look like Crossbone though, it's Halpuley
>>23921401Oh. Uh. Well the bit about the X F90 still stands.
>>23921203Absolutely perfect! The best of both MK III’s rolled into one
>>23921413that's fair really, personally I like it a lot for having a Crossbone-style feature while conveying a completely different vibe inspired by G-Fighter and ZZ>>23921483>both Mk-IIIsaren't you forgetting someone, anon?
>>23921319I wonder why can't Bandai just reuse the 3D model and make new mold for it. They did for Sleeves Doven Wolf. This is a huge waste of plastic.
>>23921659AFAIK making the mold is many times more expensive than excess plastic
>>23921539See you later when it’s revealed to be the REAL predecessor to the MK4
>>23912854>>23912864The bit container option is very curious since it looks like the bits here are WAY smaller than the funnel option, which is completely backwards to how these things normally work. Nevermind it's strange for a Feddie machine from this point to have a psycommu drone miniaturized to what looks like roughly the same level as Qubeley's funnels.I'm guessing there are three options here:>it's a purely theoretical paper planTitan eggheads thought they could crack this technology soon enough and just preemptively prepared an option for the TR-6 Weapon Container to match it>just a minor setting mistake, the Reboot funnel is a replacement for thisnot the first or last case like this, it's easy to forget details and get things confused and then you end up with autists pointing out "uhm ackshually the Titans wouldn't have such miniaturized psycommu technology in UC 0087" like total losers. Reboot's funnel design had a lot more thought put into it than just a tiny little drawing and is more closely linked to other technology from the era. On the other hand, this bit container was still featured when Reboot reused this drawing so unless that's another mistake (also possible, shit happens) this ain't it>Titans are Just That GoodBUNNyS fuckery or something else, Woundwort can just have itsy bitsy, uh, bits like thisI figure it could be any of these options or something else I haven't thought of, and either way we might never know. But if we're going for mildly unreasonable weapon options for TR-6 I'd like to see a funnel missile set as well. A little strange, but not as weird as one might think given some other suits from that time.Oh yeah and another thing, is that foldable bazooka supposed to a modified Mk-II zook? I think only the GP03 bazooka can fold like this and while that's certainly the inspiration it'd be weird to just straight up use GP project equipment here.
>>23920865Except that there was a hard plan for the title originally, but the original artist got shit canned and an assistant got roped in and just did whatever because he wanted to. The first chapter hasnt fixed shit. It's still a hot mess
>>23920419And as it turns out D Gundam is confirmed to use some Barzam parts, most of the inner frame is MP Zeta but the legs incorporate Barzam structures and the main computer is a modified Barzam model>>23920497>>23920519>>23920531>>23920544
>>23922937
>>23916560Those look like sinanjus calf thrusters
>>23920636Halpuley, my beloved. I thought I lost you years ago...
>>23922984where the fuck do you think we are anon
>>23922992>>23923030I just wanted to post a little edit I made since it's a cool Barzam reference :(
Gundam TR-6 [Icarus II]
>>23922395Might not mean much but G Gen Genesis seems to use that design for nuke missile container
since we had the Halpuley talk here might as well mention another adjacent suit by Mika Akitaka, GP04Apparently there was an unrevealed plan for some kind of SFS for it. Could be tied to its Sturm Boosters maybe? In which case it's related to Shield Boosters as well.
>>23924041better look at the silhouetteI wonder if Akitaka will ever have a chance to reveal it
>>23924856lol penis booster
>>23925283how dare you (yes)
>>23925296
A while ago GBO2 added Haze'n-thley II Rah to the gameIt's still based on the Flag of Titans design and doesn't have a transformation so for us knowers it might be a little underwhelming but still, it's a high quality 3d model of it with pretty nice animations so it's goddamn cool regardless.
>>23926191And in other news G Gen Eternal just got a F91 update that also includes a shit ton of F90 and related stuff, including F80 and, like, the entire fucking Late Type RF unit lineup including motherfucking Grand Zam. This is still relevant for us given how much Reboot ties TR Project to both Formula Project and Mars Zeon. F80 Gunraid in particular is practically a honorary TR machine.
>>23926191I could've sworn I remember it being in some version of EXVS too.
>>23926193Would you mind sharing any RF Dom material?
>>23926386the whole gang is herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciXfiDLZrNwthe weapon selection is a little bit limited but it's clear the devs put a lot of love and attention into the models and animations
>>23926390Soul - Souless
>>23926390Soul - Soul
RAPIER
hmm
Kestrel really is peak Full Armor style, going from something so agile and sleek to a giant hunk of metal
>>23930207Does Traitor to Destiny have any relation to Flag of Titans and Reboot? I dunno if this was in the downtime between threads but a third party is releasing a 1/100 kit of the Kestrel and Gullinbursti that looked pretty accurate to the designs. No way I can track down the announcement though.
>>23930290mostly just the name and the time setting, honestly. Hizack Vanargand is an exception as it uses parts derived from Hazel and is also featured in Reboot. Other than that AFAIK the epilogue for Traitor to Destiny has some details about Mars that aren't exactly 1:1 with Inle but still very similar and apparently Kestrel itself has some kind of indirect link to F90, not unlike how Reboot has a shit ton of refences to that era.But broadly speaking they're not closely related, nobody would bat an eye if this didn't have the AoZ title
>>23930290they're pretty decent looking but still have that annoying "sharpness" legally distinct bootlegs tend to have, I hate that stuff. Kestrel still feels like the sort of thing that could get a sudden random p-bandai HG at any moment to me
Hizacks are so freaking cool, man. What's your favorite?
>>23930895For me, in my case? It's the Cannon variant. I'm hoping either Bandai or AK make a kit of it soon.Vanargand is pretty cool though. It's be pretty cool if Bandai did the thing. Or a third party came in clutch like with the ReHaze.
>>23930895It's got to be the YRMS-106 Hi-Zack Early Type. When I first saw it in the AoZ mooks, I was taken by how different it looked from the Hi-Zacks in Zeta (even though it was mostly just a color difference) and it sparked my love of solid unsegmented tubing for zaku-clones.I liked it so much that I tried (poorly) to mimic its color scheme for my first painted model kit. That and the fact that it's one of my first introductions to Fujioka Kenki's work is what gives it a special place in my heart.
>>23930895For me it's the Prototype, something about the different shapes and the color scheme just clicks to me. Even though it's Zaku-style parts all over it really feels like a Federation machine.
Is there a variant of the Hazel Owsla that uses the original Hrududu? I know the Primrose has a Hrududu-equipped variant but I couldn't find anything about there being a corresponding variant for the Owsla
>>23932975Actually no, surprisingly enough. Though obviously the configuration can absolutely exist, Fujioka just never happened to draw it somehow. The Rah II form still uses Hrududu's central block to mount the Hrududu II wing units so it's a really simple tweak too.I guess regular Hazel Custom/Advanced Hazel are more associated with it whereas Owsla as the final (mostly) Hazel is more closely tied to the more sophisticated gear.
>>23924045Looks like Gaplant with the booster pack. Probably a custom variant.
>>23933439It's some kind of sub flight system for GP04
sticking the gigantic arms on random shit is fun
>>23933945I want to put two sets of gigantic arms on a Hi-Zack, Barbus style
Woundwort meido
>>23935531
>>23935531I love my beautiful wife(male)
>>23935531>>23935570I love my beautiful wife(female)
Finished the third party Gelgoog III. Here it is next to the HG ReZeon GM Quel and Gustav Karl for size comparison. Apparently it's supposed to be as tall as a Sazabi, but I don't have a finished 1/144 Sazabi on the shelf.The build quality is not great. A few pegs were too large to their holes which led to a few stretch marks on the plastic. You can see a couple on the head if you zoom in. I built better third party kits like the ReHaze. That one went pretty smooth.Also did some color correcting on the gun, backpack, missile pods and shield. They came in gray when they were supposed to be all black.And as for the redesign itself it's... to be honest, I only bought because I'm here throwing money at most things with the Advance of Zeta moniker attached. You aren't missing much if you skip it and wait for Bandai to do their job. However long it takes.
>>23935731thank you for your service, o7Good to know it's not a total pile of shit at least. Something about their take on the design puts me off so I wasn't planning to get it anyway, I figure legit HG is gonna happen sooner or later. Still, your model looks nice, good work on the kit nonny. Though the side chicks steal the show honestly. I think the height is ultimately pretty accurate, I'm eyeballing my Hazel next to RG Sazabi and it's about the same level as your Quel next to the Goog.
Barzams are really versatile!
>>23933999hehe
>>23938132This is fucking incredible>>23937714Is there some secret lore connection between AOZ and Sentinel that I don’t know about? The Xeku seems to show up a lot (Hizack II, Advanced Marasai) and now I’m curious.
>>23938163in many ways AoZ is a spiritual successor/counterpart/love letter to Sentinel. Fujioka is a HUGE Sentinel and Katoki fan after all.
>>23938163There is no real connection between Xeku and Advanced Marasai inspite of the similar designs. Most of it's pattern comes from Early Hazel.
>>23938165I wish we have more mock models for AOZ Reboot. The ones Model Graphix made for Sentinel are iconic.
>>23938817There absolutely is, it's using identical or very similar parts such as the head sensor and the particularly distinctive double layered chest armour. You don't draw that by accident anon
>>23938827I mean, Xeku Eins looks like a souped up Marasai so it is just appropriate for Advanced Marasai to looks like Xeku Eins.
>>23938832It's still a deliberate and explicit reference
>>23938820there was a couple back when Dengeki had physical releases, but I guess at this point the role's been replaced by Fujioka just retweeting basically any AoZ stuff he finds on twitter. Much easier to manage, there were a couple miscommunications with these mock models back during Flag of Titans
>>23938163>>23938817>>23938832The Galbaldy High mobility type had the Xeku's beam smartgun, too.
>>23939196there's TONS of references really, from the extremely overt things like using the exact same weaponry and parts to the stuff only Knowers will get like how TR-6 is a direct parallel to S Gundam on practically every level
>>23938875I just want to see more mockups, man. Dengeki Hobby made one for Rehaze and it looks amazing, these things bring life to the illustrations in a way the official kits can't.
>>23915017you cant spell funnels without fun
I always thought the Barzam was the Gundam mk2 mass production type but I found out it wasn't. I was happy to find this little infographic from AOZ to show me its design origins.
>>23939730>I always thought the Barzam was the Gundam mk2 mass production type but I found out it wasn't. Except it is. It is just that AOZ Barzam is a mixed bag of many other things.
>>23939730Some MKII, some Hizack, some Woundwort, some Proto Asshimar. Literall Frankenstein's monster.
>>23939730Barzam's story is a whole can of worms and AoZ is a latecomer to it. In the first place, there was no "mass produced Mk-II", it was only designed as the new Titans grunt with some descriptions about development at New Guinea which is still occasionally referenced. It's hard to track down when and where exactly the Mk-II connection began but it was very soon after the show. Might have been with Kondo's Zeta manga adaptation where Barzam has Gundam eyes. Either way, the idea then led to the Sentinel redesign (soon after redubbed as the Refined Barzam variant) that's outright closer to Mk-II than Barzam.From there the "mass produced Mk-II" idea became firmly established mainstream, but there were various incongruities and random tidbits in databooks and such that didn't match up with anything else. Either way, the New Guinea setting wasn't abandoned and remained consistent as well.Eventually Flag of Titans featured its own Barzam design with no real details to it but several other units suggested technological connections to it. Later still (we're almost at present-day here) ReBoot came out with the much more radical Barzam version. Here Barzam's development is central to the entire project with everyone and their mother contributing in one way or another. Mk-II connection is still present here and it's not outright WRONG to call it a mass-produced Mk-II but it doesn't tell the whole story either.Here it's important to note none of these settings and sources are really mutually exclusive, there's no Canon Bible or whatever that states one undeniable truth about a japanese cartoon robot and everything else is heresy. It's just different takes and interpretations and people are free to use them as they wish. Case in point, we even have official mats like Monthly Mobile noting how the development is kind of a mess even for in-universe analysts.There's been a few japanese blogs and analyses of the whole thing but I think most of them are defunct now sadly
>>23939812AOZ actually connected Barzam to MkII Gundam and the HGUC Barzam gave Reboot a continuity nod. Before the release of HGUC and AOZ Reboot, Barzam was known in Japan as the mysterious grunt that just came out of nowhere with no specific origin or development pipeline.
>>23939812As for Refine Type, they were retrofitted with MKII parts and this was not an implication of their origin.
>>23939812managed to find one of these blogs via wayback machinehttps://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/kandatashine.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-37.html
>>23939870>>23939812>>23939750What A.O.Z. did to the Barzam only made it so much more interesting making it an accumulation of Titans mass produced technology and were scary close into incorporating its modular designs had char not done his Dakar speech, otherwise the titans would’ve potentially won
I'm not saying Rick Dias Stutzer is the most underrated AoZ mecha but yeah actually I am saying that FUCK IT'S SO FREAKING COOL I NEED A KIT BANDAI GODDAMIT
>>23940237The Stutzer mobile suits deserve more love in general. I’m a big fan of the Rick Dom and Gelgoog
Curse the Woundwort Rah for having two composite shield boosters, because now I have to buy another Woundwort
>>23940237Actually the Galbaldy High Mobility Type is the most underrated design.>source?At least some people bring up the Rick Dias Stutzer to say the lineart is messy but I am the only one that ever brings up the Galbaldy.
>>23940842Nothing's stopping you from running just one to be fair
So is the flag of the titans good? I read the first vol and it seems pretty bad.
>>23943166yeah it's a pretty damn good novel, first volume included
>>23943169No, i'm talking about the manga adaptation.
>>23943182the manga is more of a companion piece to the novel rather than a full replacement, it focuses on and highlights specific aspects of the story but isn't a complete picture
>>23943202That honestly explains why everything feels so rushed or underdeveloped. Are there any fan or officials translations out there?
>>23943214Zeonic translated the novel like 2 or 3 years ago
For those of you that have built a lot of HG Hazel kits, what's your go to method for closing all the seam lines on the arms (the forearms and both parts of the shoulder armor)? The way the forearms and shoulders go together are very awkward and I haven't come up with a good method yet
>>23943566I just masked it. Paint the joints, use putty on the seams, mask the joints and paint the armor. There might be better ways, but I could never figure one out.
