--------------***READ THE OP***--------------***NEW THREADS TO BE MADE ON PAGE 9(NINE)***-OR-***IMAGE LIMIT REACHED AND POST COUNT EXCEED 1000***Previous Thread:>>23969207SRW Y - Anniversary Expansion Pack & Free Updatehttps://youtu.be/MLHvqGRObhUSuper Robot Wars ZII Ruination Remastered production confirmed, international releasehttps://www.twitter.com/BandaiNamcoUS/status/2084323660614021333Nightingale - All-Range Attack:https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2082753072351383999ULTRAMAN - Limiter Release:https://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/2082755578628116989For discussion on SRC (SRW fangame program), please join the dedicated Discordhttps://discord.gg/WrV2AhGIf you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help (links for other resources also here):https://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars(add ?action=purge to the end of the url in case of a blank page)SRW Japanese Wikihttps://srw.wiki.cre.jp/Booruhttps://daitrombe.booru.org/Game Availability in English:https://pastebin.com/WYxB1iLuMusic Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LzxYHqDYBring Stabity's Quick Guide to Katakana:https://pastebin.com/x6FmxFGkGame Modification Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/k722v36xTranslated Plot Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/HAQ3qrSgArt Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/FyeZaW80SRC Pastebin V2:https://pastebin.com/NRPtThEZMake your own SRW character Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/DBj6NknkIf you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artistsPlease contact the following e-mail: suparoboeternity@gmail.com
justice for esther
Rate Y's final DLC.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1tac1BgsjA&t=8shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqiGUI2AnVMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGpTHf7enVM
>>239722634/10 overall.
Anyone got pictures of Watanabe lolis?
>>23972254>>23972261I hope Chiyoko's still doing alright
>>23972272sex with my imouto
>>23972271I had no idea he made lolis. I would like to see Watanabe draw everyone's favorite /m/ girl in his current slut style.
>>23972271You don't want the slimpigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze744rHoPnAThe Y DLC.
>>23972264Even if they did add extra shit from Arc, you'd never fight Emperor. They'd let you fight Ten instead.
>>23972282I would have been perfectly fine with that!
Y last DLC and ZIIR announcement resulted in the biggest spike of activity this dump had ever since KR Zeztz premiere a bit less than a year ago.Given how... 'unique' the KR generals are, no wonder some anons want to 'take over' (whatever than entails) this general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yJhOm2PgF0&t=3sRank the DLC combo attacks.
I don't remember, did Miorine's father also go into a coma in the show? I thought he just died.
The /srwg/ Sentai.
>>23972285Macross > Dynazenon/Red5 > Arc/JJ > Tomino boys > MDS > God strike > wing boys
>>23972285For me the best one is Choudenji God Strike, OD Shine Spark is second and I like Maximum Dynamic Special because the beams combining into one giant beam is a nice callback to 64.
>>23972287Yeah, it was the same there. The witch plot in the DLC pretty much followed the show aside from cutting some scenes like a compilation movie.
>>23972288Based Axia.
>>23972292So, like how K did Destiny.
>>23972271?
>>23972302Close enough.
>>23972284>Given how... 'unique' the KR generals areThey have schizos that out shitposts /srwg/'s?
>>23972303She's an acquired taste for sure. Echika and Az are far tastier, though.
>>23972306She's got thighs. I can give her that.
>>23972285double siegfried > jaguar shine spark > dynamic special > god strike > tomino combo > dynazenon combo (mostly disappointed because i want big blade in base game) > piss > turd > wing boys comboarios-san is a fucking fraud, he should be relegated to mob and side characters like chuchu. demi barding is amazing but he can't handle the big boys anymore.
>>23972311
>>23972313Is the wing boys combo really the arios guy? The dust and explosion seem like his style, but everything else was super static while usually he can't stop making things move even if he has to sacrifice frame count for it.
>>23972318>but everything else was super static while usually he can't stop making things move even if he has to sacrifice frame count for it.Probably because aside from Wing Zero, the other wing boys are stuck with the same Z3 which aren't part of his style.
>>23972320Z3 sprites*
Now to wait for the Z2 remaster and a brand new mainline console game.
>>23972326It's like that dragon meme.
>>23972328They're absolutely gonna use the Z2 remaster as a way to stockpile assets for future use.Therefore, which Z2 series do you want to see in the next new game?
Hi Domon's dad
>>23972333Gurren Lagann pre-timeskip, 00s1, Geass s1... all great options that SRW has barely used.
>>23972333Godmars.
>>23972333Aside from Gurren Lagann, this.
Super Robot Wars Y: the game with no Nobuyuki Hiyama units and enemies.
>>23972342Don't worry. You'll get your fill when Z2 remaster comes out.
>>23972333TV 00, Daiguard, Xabungle, King Gainer and Gravion on top of my list, I would love to see both Dancouga as well again...
>>23972338this is the last time any of these will be usedenjoy your post-plot saisei unit forever
>>23972333Geass, 00 S1 (only if they use it to bring 00F) Godmars and GL. King Gainer and Gravion if we're including ZEUTH
>>23972336his name is Raizo?neat >>23972333Big O, King Gaioner, Gurren Lagann, Aquarion
>>23972333Dai-Guard's about the only one I care about
Who will you deploy/main or bench for the future Z2 remaster?
>>23972354I'll bench anything out of Pocket Full of Rainbows for sure.
>>23972354I'm doing 3 runs rotating units, none of them will have Renton and Holland.
>>23972346Considering they're gonna have assets stockpiled now, maybe not.
alright anon(You) get to decide how the next MC looks like and what their personality ishit me with what you got
>>23972354SEED and 00
>>23972354My mains will probably be Mazinger Z, Shin Getter, Gurren Lagann, GodMars, Exia, Nu Gundam, Destiny Gundam, Force Impulse Gundam, and GoShogun.
>>23972357it's not a matter of assets, it's that they are unlikely to do GL or CG or 00 S1 for future games. they can easily include S2 post-plot wherever they want.also GL shares most of its animation between S1 and S2 anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIWJEfm63M0
>>23972360>GoShogunDo you know something that we don't?
>>23972358salaryman who just wants to go home to his cute wife and daughter
>>23972342either I am blind of Mayan Batman isnt on here
>>23972363Oops. I meant GodSigma.
>>23972354LelouchKallenSimon/KaminaAoiShinobuSetsunaHeeroGetterKojiSo many cool ones I like, I'm gonna be in heaven
>>23972354Doing all the Japan routes first
>>23972348Man, it'd be cool if they added in 00 and Geass side stories
>>23972375I want them playing behind the scenes of the main plots like we did with SEED Astray in W and then recruit the main characters when shit hits the fan.
>>23972333Aquarion, King Gainer and Gurren Lagann
>>23972380Given their covert role in general in the 00 various manga, they could do something like add in a new side route, like selectable like the DLC stages of previous games, for stuff going on elsewhere with a new group of characters.Though LS would likely be part of Geass TV plot since its added on there in the game.
i didnt preorder y so i was waiting for both a sale and for the preorder dlcs to get added before getting itis the stuff that comes in ultimate worth getting since its also on sale or should i just get base for 35 + the two expansion packs
>>23972263DLC combo ratings, best to worst:>Chodenji God strike (Combattler and Reideen)>Otaki Dynamic Shine Bomber (Getter Arc and Jet Jaguar)>Combination Maneuver (Hayate and Messer)>Twin Buster Shoot (Billbine and L-Gaim Mk2)>G-Meteor Formation (the Wing Bois)>Maximum Dynamic Special (Mazinkaiser, Emperor G and Getter Arc)>Red Hero combination (Dynazenon and Red 5)
>>23972333Literally all the debuts (except Eureka Seven and the Frontier movies) + Gravion, Getter Armageddon and XabungleArmageddon will be a lot more fun with its full plot and unit roster rather than the barebones shit we've been dealing with since Z3
>>23972388Do you like hearing the original anime songs when playing SRW? That's what's in the Ultimate Edition (the Premium Songs and Data Pack)That's ultimately something you must decide since it's not a gameplay dlc. Some songs are exclusive to the Premium Sound Pack (like the second L-Gaim OP Kaze no Reply, or the Mazinkaiser ova OP Fire Wars, lots of Macross songs) and the game automatically sets every song where it's supposed to play. But Y also supports custom BGMs (even if the way it's implemented is worse than how it worked in 30)So tldr it's a matter of you having money and how much you think it's worth it
>>23972382It could be just route splits the old traditional way, siding with Fereshte for a while and then finally meet Celestial Being halfway through the game. Post trans-am unlock is a good meeting point desu. Also we would get to fight the Trinity brothers proper before Ali takes them out.
>>23972364but his party is full of homewrecking sluts that fell in love with him because he's nice
>>23972354Fuck, am I even capable of keeping to just 15?I'll try...>Mazinger Z>Getter Robo>Sol Gravion>God Sigma Gravion>Dai Guard>Gawain>Gekka (Todoh's unit)>Exia>Dynames>Gallia>Orguss>Big O>Gurren Lagann>Dayakkaiser>King KittanFucking dammit, I knew it. No room for the Wing boys even though I've never played a Wing TV game before. This is the first game where filling out all my slots has been really difficult, the roster and number of available units is just that good
>>23972394There are a ton of stuff that they could do if they decide they are willing to add series, even if its only stuff connected to the existing roster.00 and Geass have side stories that would be great to see debut/escape mobile.
>>23972396you know you don't have to use literally the same 15 units the whole run right
>>23972393does ultimate really not include gameplay dlc at all? im pretty sure it includes dlc 1 and 2
>>23972404Of course, and in fact doing so is impossible because of route splits, acquisition time, etcDoesn't change the fact that I want to use like 3/4 of the roster, which is extremely rareDefinitely going to be replaying the game multiple times unless the gameplay is somehow worse than usual
>>23972396The last chunk of stages increases the amount of deploy units up to 20
and yet they'll never be brave enough to adapt GL side stories
>>23972410Maybe in the 2028 game
>>23972410They just need to add in Giga Drill Buster as a combo for Simon and Yoko
>code geassunparalleled aura, T-pose laser, RUROOJU SPINZAKU pizza butt>00peak autism, I am gundam, fuckin aliens, MISTAH BUSHIDOH>glnormiecore, is every drill a gurren lagann reference, who the hell do you think I am, ROW ROW>macross frontierfucking zero relevance despite almost breaking through with nyan nyan dance (it doesn't even come up when I searched in youtube for "ranka dance")why is macross frontier so shit
I don't know why the Z3 games don't just let you have lazengann if they're going to have lordgenome lives anyway
>>23972409Enough room to squeeze in Heero, Trowa, Chirico Fyana, and Garrod, good. I reckon Dayakka will probably be Dai Gurren captain at that point, so I'll probably swap him with Gunleon or the Librasta eventually depending on how much I like Crowe and his robot. Gunleon's gonna be tough to beat.
>>23972413yoko is so mistreated in the series I don't think even SRW can save hershe got to copilot Gurren Lagann ONCEand then the movie definitely sealed her fate by just giving her dayakka's hand-me-downs and stealing her pants
>>23972415look buster, we GL fans ate so good for the Z3 finale we cannot ask for more
>>23972414zoom zoom
>>23972416You don't get to keep Fyana in Hakai, Votoms only goes up to episode 10 and she's sent to babysit Ypsilon.
>>23972418No we didn't. They actually skipped the LITERAL tengen toppa guren lagann attacks in favor of the movie forms.
>>23972420Well shit. Both OGs it is then. Heaven knows there's no point in giving a shit about any of the rando cannon fodder from the VOTOMS OVAs. Can't remember a single one of their names
>>23972421they fixed the fucking movie and STTGL, that's more than enoughwe didn't get spider-man gurren lagann either I'm not complaining
>>23972423The only OG in Hakai is Crowe tho. No Esther, No Setsuko, No Rand.Also no OVA characters from Votoms, you don't even meet Shako yet.
>>23972426Crowe and his debt take 2 slots
>>23972417>and then the movie definitely sealed her fate by just giving her dayakka's hand-me-downsNo, that was TV, she got her own in the movies which SRW gave her
>>23972430no, she in tv she got dayakkas and in movie she got dayakka recolor and Super Tengen Toppa Dayakka Recolor
>>23972431Yoko M Tank, which he never touchedKiyoh got Dayakka's
>>23972426>The only OG in Hakai is Crowe tho. No Esther, No Setsuko, No Rand.Marguerite also, but she joins as a secret at the end of the game.
>>23972414You're just late the party plus Macross is very disposible and when the new one is out most people lose interest in the last one. Frontier was still huge when Z2 originally came out
>>23972426Fine. Faye gets the final slot. The producers will be made well aware how much I want Gravion back in a main series game, and also how much I like jacking off
>>23972432>>23972431it's a dayakkaiser recolormy point is not that it's the literal same mech, it's that she never gets one that is distinctly Yoko
>>23972415Because HD is hard. The same reason they held off on Yoko and Kittan until near the end of the game because they didn't want to make their pre Space Ganmen again
>https://velleity-note.blog/news-game/usa-super-robot-wars-z2-remaster-english/>Development is being handled by Bandai Namco Forge Digitals, who plan to begin full-scale development after completing all work on Super Robot Wars Y and its DLC. The supported platforms and release date have not yet been announced.So there's no second team, and no secret mainline game being developed in parallel?
>>23972434GL outlasted promare, 00 is better liked than ace or iboI know frontier was huge, I'm saying it fell off hard in
>>23972439*age
>>23972438Shit if true
>>23972438Remaster doubling as an excuse for new hired to work on the engine I suppose, if true
>>23972438>So there's no second team, and no secret mainline game being developed in parallel?Most likely in parallel so don't get surprised if Z2R and the next game end up sharing some series. This remaster is clearly made to expand their asset archive and train more staff with the Y engine.
>>23972443OG sisters...
>>23972423You don't get to keep them either. The Pailsen files guys are all in one flashback only and they all die and the Last Red Shoulder guys are just the one guy with the other two as summons. They live but they fuck off afterwards until the next game. Honestly Votoms is just Chrico alone 90 percent of the time. You only get Fyana Shako and the LRS guy at near the end of Saisei anyway. Z3 despite being notoriously stingy with characters does at least give you Shako immediately but Fyana is NPCed and the LRS guys never return
>>23972442new hires*
>>23972438So much for people hoping TOSE would take charge and bang out a good remaster, I guess.
>>23972449Isn't TOSE in higher demand nowadays? They were involved out on a lot of big projects sicne the last OG.
>>23972438You found a weird Japanese site that seems to be all about quoting English sources, which in this case is very weird for a SRW game... I think this is also AI written since the "editor" is also credited as the writer of all the articles
>>23972439Again nature of the franchise. Macross's big thing is idol concerts so the newer younger girls usually overshadow the older ones and the new show takes all the glory although they do return from time to time. It's not like Gundam where every series has it's fanbase, or at least not to that level. Most of Macross's fanbase are idolfags that move as one onto the newest youngest cutie once the older ones are past idol age.
That article's cited sources make no mention of who's actually developing the remaster and it reads like an AIslop summary so take it with a grain of salt>>23972450Tose's always done lots of projects. They do like half of the Dragon Quest spinoffs and a ton of shit for Nintendo.
>>23972452kpop is so cruel...
>>23972450The only thing I've seen that they've been working on the last two years were the Dragon Quest and Tales remasters
>>23972455They worked on the Paper Mario remake too
>Crowe gets added to Y>Z2 remaster gets announcedCrazy how nature did that
>>23972461what a coincidence!
>>23972461And now we know what one of the units in the remaster will look like when they port over Crowe exactly as Y has him!
>tfw no crowe magnum attack
>>23972464Librasta T wasn't in Hakai-hen
Will Brasta return with all of its speeeedliiiiiiiiiiiineeeeessss or will it get a full redo?
will the animation make it clear this time that crowe is cornering the enemy not missing
>>23972461Crowe will become the new face of the Franchise
>>23972454The entire Hallyu waves is cruel for only starting when Korean products feels artificial and are on the toilet quality wise instead of starting it from the year 2000 or late 90's
>>23972467>It will now! but only as DLC
>>23972455>>23972458They're also currently doing the Persona 4 remake
>>23972461He has to work off that debt somehow
The real question is how many of the Z2 series will not get their themes due to international music label shenannigans
>>23972437That's a retarded excuseIn X, the guren lagann cast joins in their space gunmen BEFORE fighting cathedral lazengann. Daiguren's space gunmen are found in that battleship, they're not something leeron invented.So they could've joined earlier since the game already ignored the original lore anyway, the devs are just dumb.
https://superrobotwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ziony_RegisIT'S BULLYING TIME
>>23972500hobo get out
>>23972508Got Sistis'?
>>23972509Gimme a sec to get something low HP for her to slap.Valblem too but I get the feeling these three aren't permanent joins. Guess I'll find out after this stage
>>23972510Other than the 30,000HP he doesn't seem that much stronger than our units
They just moved the numbers around from Seivas' ace
>>23972354I only ever really kept Holland on the bench since they managed to make the swordfish fucking boring, everyone else got to have some time in the sun.
>>23972512That's because their damage value is designed for player hp
>>23972354It’ll be nice to have Dancouga Nova on the team again.
>Crow's sphere just magically appears out of nowhere (and it also magically gives him debt again)I really hope this is indication they intend to do something with the Z series again and not just low effort slop
>>23972464>And now we know what one of the units in the remaster will look likeDo any of you shitposters even play the games?The april update added prequel missions which use Z2 sprites
>>23972555No it didn't, it used Z3 and X sprites
>>23972554Can also just be so the other Z protags can show up as guests down the line
>>23972554>SRW Z4 will actually happen
>Crowe
>redditbob
oh yeah hibiki did make an appearance, didn't he
>>23972600Did they finally found his voice actor?
>>23972600Only in a phone call (and no character portrait) unless he's gonna jump out in the final stage or something, I just got there.
How many missions is the DLC? People said it was an alternate chapter 7, but I'm already 10 missions in and didn't even get all combo attacks yet. The original chapter 7 was only 9 missions long.
>>23972619Description says 33 missions total but I'm not sure if that's counting the front missions that only appear right before the final stretch where you can't do side shit until the endingIt's definitely not as short as Ch7
Is there a final final boss like T expansion or same shit?
>4chanbob
>>23972621Read the fucking thread
>>23972306>She's an acquired taste for sure.Not for her cousin, she's hungry for that girl.
>>23972619>>23972620honestly seems best to do the dlc missions IN the expansion pack before you finish it, especially since DLC 1 and 2 characters feel more alive theredunno if that applies to the expansion people however
>>23972642I don't get it, why should it be different than just doing it in yge base game?
>>23972644It's probably hard to explain, but it feels better with how they're integrated into the anni pack story as opposed to basically not existing in anything basegame
Quiet Zero getting vaporized is a map scene after the final boss, so you don't get Calibarn with the GUND-bits or rainbow mode Final boss had a hard version you can choose to fight when she spawns in but I just fought the normal one since my gameplay had already devolved into feeding Getter infinite turns any time a boss showed up.The ending is more of the usual SRW everyone splits off to do their own thing but some still stay on A.AdventYazan joins Londo BellSuletta is slightly less microwaved than in GWitch so she's still walking around, though she gets dragged back to her hospital bed. No appearance from Prospera in the epilogue but Eri still got banished into a keychain.Preventers, MJP, Shuffle Alliance, Black Knights, and ZAFT merged into a new world police. Surely this will go well.Master Asia is entering the next Gundam fight to represent A.AdventGetter Team are helping rebuild the Photon Lab and then headed off to space to go fuck aliens or somethingThe remaining Ra Val have no way to go back to their own time so they're going to live on Mars
>>23972642Wait? You can still do remaining side missions and DLC after you jump to the expansion? Only reason I've held off starting the expansion is that I still need to finish off a few extra side missions
>>23972648You want the DLC characters as early as possible though during the DLC, otherwise you'd miss stuff like Roger actually negotiating.
Is Y worth a spin if none of its series I'm familiar with go beyond mild interest?
Why are the Guest so underwhelming as antagonists in 2nd OG? Their big debut is a giant rug pull, Ruina and Baral both block them from invading the Earth thanks to two different ways of sealing off the planet and then there's an entire stage dedicated to Shu telling Zezenan that he knew about all of his tricks from the beginning.
>>23972689Only DLC1/2/Exp packs.
>>23972672Did they even try to explain the other DLCs? There's a mention of Usurper right at the beginning, but nothing else.Also, how many stages, more or less? I've just beaten the Great General of Darkness.
>>23972698I never bothered getting the previous DLCs but there was no mention of anything from them at all.I wasn't keeping count of the stages
>>23972694Invaded too late. In the original F/FF the Huckebein was the top unit of the Federation, while in OG 2nd they already have several world enders in their midst.No Posaydal to ally with. The Guest aren't really a huge invading army, more like a spec ops team. They needed the Posaydal army to bolster their numbers.Lastly, Euzeth was there.
>>23972700The first DLC had a magician-looking dude that absorbed negative emotions. A cat.called Gulliver escaped.The second DLC had a buff robot dude who was destroyed but had his mind transferred to System Nira-Kana-I.The third DLC had a clown dude who wanted a mommy gf (I'm not making this up). He was just killed. They mention his name, Usurper, right at the start of this DLC.
>>23972702Actually their invasion would have been successful if a certain informant didnt leak their plans to Euzeth ahead of time. Remember, Euzeth had already prepped the entirety of Earth like an entire week ahead of time because he knew when and where they were coming.
>>23972693No. It's incredibly mid even if you are a fan of those series.
>>23972704Even if they succeed in invading, how are they going to hold Earth up for more than like, 3 days? There are like 50 secret projects just waiting to shit some world-destroying threat out.The main issue with the Guest in OG 2nd is that they just appeared far too late. So late they were almost outclassed. FF was the perfect time for them to show up, because people weren't throwing black holes left and right. Just beams, bullets and the odd super robot attack shaped like a bird.
>>23972698>Also, how many stages, more or less? It's listed as having 25 stages.
>>23972708The DLC page is listed as 33
>>23972708Thanks.
>>23972707Even funnier that your team doesn't even take any of the Guest faction that seriously.
>>239727098 of those are front missions.
>>23972709Some Front Missions appear right before the end.
>>23972691I had them but didn’t finish either of their plots, so I still got that scene while still being able to do the rest of their stories in the expansion pack
Z2 is shit, I would rather replay machine translated OGG
>>23972707>>23972711The Gaia Sabers werent ready yet and basically spend a not insignificant amount of time rigging everything so that their stuff could be completed. This why Euzeth uses people like Kenneth to move the Steel Dragons and associates around so we'd either be out of the way, or just so happen to be in place to train Ing/Tsentr Project/etc.The biggest threats to the Zuvorg in the scenario where they managed to successfully invade would be the Ruina and Baral, the groups that also give the GS a hard time as well. Furthermore, OG really undersells how powerful the Baran Schneil actually is. Its basically a souped up Zanneck from V Gundam complete with the ability to bombard the Earth with super long range cannons. If Zezenan wasnt a retard and actually prepped properly, the Earth would have a hell of a time dealing with them.This is why the Guests are basically a sideshow in OG because they're led by an idiot who got outplayed and all of his generals plus the Privy Council give us the support to knock him out. Gorainkle?( the merchants) are taken far more seriously.
>>23972693SRW is still like the best modern SRW so I’d give it a try yes, it’s pretty well written too
So do side missions also reset for the Anni missions?
>>23972715Z 2.1 only exists so 2.2 could be made and awesome. That's why just giving us 2.1 is fucking LAME and will sell poorly.
>>23972672ONE MORE RUN BROTHER
>>23972672Wait, How Important Crowe was to the Expansion's Main plot?
>>23972726His significant role in all this is to pay his debt
>>23972726Not very but they use the sphere to escape the final boss's world at the end.
>The Z people are now jumping around Universes like a vacation
>>23972731Its more like the spheres are using them as janitors.
>>23972405It does but you can also buy the Deluxe to get the season pass content, and eventually that version will go on sale too
>>23972732Didn't we used to have a Janny before? I Can't seem to remember his name though
>>23972719It restarts your chapter 7. After the second or third mission, it'll start a chain of missions that will make EVERY other mission unavailable until 15 or so missions in.
Does DLC3 actually get lines or was that only an issue for the forst two?>>23972736Oh so what ever you didn't do will get restated
>>23972722>2.2You mean Code Geass featuring a bunch of literal whos?
>>23972732The spheres are really a bunch of hard working entities. I appreciate their competence
>>23972672Do they skirt around the gay with Suletta and Mio or is it explicit?
>>23972750They don't do the timeskip ending bit but all the really gay scenes are 1:1 with the show
>>23972694>one of three factions>the other two are a manufactured god and its immortal cronies and the literal end of all life in the universe
>>23972750>>23972755These are the important questions folks...
>>23972755So barely existent
>>23972760No, it isn't. G-shit really ruined these threads
>>23972766says you, drool.
>>23972757This isnt that different from Alpha 2 when you had Zeon running around with the likes of Baral, the 70s SR villains, Reclaimers, etc.
>>23972767You really do start seething the moment some says anything bad about GShit. Thank you for proving my point
>>23972760Well yes, asking if the game follows the anime or not is pretty important for the adaptation questions
Do you even get secrets you missed in this pack? My dumbass forgot to do the side mission for master Asia so I never got him
>>23972773I got the Mei supporter in the expansion but never had her in the base game. Didn't get Dorothy though.
>>23972773IIRC people said they'll eventually join. The only missing characters are the DLC ones because you have to have them already unlocked for them to show up
>>23972774Wait I think I meant Relena, not funny eyebrows lady
>>23972776You can still get the dlc characters in the dlc as long as you do their missions, I even have the contact stuff for the other expansion, I just didn’t buy that pack because I’m not sure if they interact with the new DLCs story too
By the way , Aerial rebuild is lost forever or we can keep it?
>>23972786Quiet Zero is the 2nd to last stage and then you go straight to the final boss so no
>>2397233300 S1. More SRW games need Exia and I want to see Avalanche Exia one of these days
Did they decrease the amount of points required to level up squad rank? I got to S before even halfway through chapter 2.
>>23972797You can probably hit S rank pretty early with all the bonus stages now. The anniversary and 20 million stages seem to give you a shitton of money.
>>23972694Wait until you see how the story dealt with gaia saberOG can be pretty retarded sometimes
>>23972797In first playthrough, your squad rank was limited by story progression.
>>23972799 I remember having to fub several units to reach A rank and it took me until around chapter 3 or 4 to reach S. I haven't done the latest two bonus stages, but the other dlc freebies aren't THAT much
>>23972811I have autism so I never used ng+, unless they still flagged it as a second playthrough if I've finished it anyway
>>23972772>follows the anime or notYour headcannon isn't the anim3
>>23972773I think chapter 7 secrets, Master Asia and Guel are automatic, all other secrets you need to carry them over from the base game
So has anyone done NG+ after completing the DLC? Curious to see if you get to keep any of the new stuff in the base campaign.
>>23972791How soon do you get Calibarn and the others comparatively, trying to map out when I can take a pause and just do the rest of the dlc side missions>>23972831I honestly can’t remember which secrets besides supporters and I guess Olibee are prior to chapter 7
>>23972672So is this some sort of DQ11 thing where Echika alone ends up in an alternate more people live and are happy timeline while the original timeline Yz-Next are left on their own?
Why not remaster OGs and OGG?
>>23972843The new final boss came from the future and fucked the timeline up
>>23972847Bamco probably isnt convinced that OG is a reasonable investment yet. Remember, they're still trying to recover after that great failure with Unknown 9 or whatever its called.
>>23972738>Does DLC3 actually get lines or was that only an issue for the forst two?Do you mean in the original main story? They didn't have lines. If you mean in the anniversary expansion, DLC 1, 2 and 1st Expansion characters all get lines in the Anniversary Expansion. Cybuster and VXT originals get lines although less than the DLC pack characters and mostly talking with each other, while the DLC characters are better integrated with the rest of the cast (although you can see characters from the same DLC generally get lines together, but usually you get someone from the base game talking alongside them too).
>>23972847OG's a flop
>>23972847They did the math and having marketable series is worth the extra licensing cost. Probably not confident an all OG game will sell.
>>23972836Aside from Assists, there's Alpha Azieru, the 2nd mc, Caruleum, Olibee, Guel, Master Asia, early Mutron Raideen... I think this is it for pre-chapter 7 secrets?
>>23972836You can get Calibarn right after you get the A.Advent flying again, so about halfway through.
>>23972856Also, don't forget Banpresto used to be a separate company while now they're just Bandai. So, basically, anything Sunrise isn't even paying for a license (it was after this change SRW started having full sized cut-ins for the Gundams too).
I'm at work so I can't check myself but if you start the expansion without a save file can you still use the VXT characters?
>>23972854Guess I’ll have to buy expansion 1 then, only reason why I didn’t is because I wasn’t sure if they’re included
>>23972843Only her consciousness goes back, but actually other people start to notice there's something wrong. At first it's just Echika that feels this, but soon most of the sensitives in the cast (and even some enemies) will realize there's something very wrong going on. Also, the date for the Catastrophe (Godzilla Ultimate) changes by a few days, and the song received by Jet Jaguar is different (this gives him a new attack).
>>23972864i loaded my original win/save thing (preDLC) and basically the only missions I can do right off the bat that aren't the main mission are the DLC missions and challenge missions i didnt do and the fairy challenge thing.So im guessing since they get tacked on the VXT's should still be acquirable through their missions
>Assist chat confirmed Seivas is now Izana's boyfriendLucky him
>>23972843The "other" timeline is actually worse because the Godzilla fight is put on hold for a while, and a new enemy faction goes around giving villains the V/X/T/Z3 enemy mechs like they're confetti. The A.Advent is shot down, repairs take a long time and you need to split your forces to check out all enemy factions.Also they do the WfM S2 plot, which is fucking slow.
>>23972863I'm curious how much licensing actually costs for some old ass series that doesn't get anything but a toy once every 10 yearsRecent shit I'm sure is more expensive but like how much do they have to pay for stuff like God Sigma?
>no domon/allenby>no domon/MASTER ASIA>nothing involving any of the DLCsi guess some team attacks is better than none
There's a dlc stage that clarifies that the mask Ra Valbelm used in the main game to control the Willforce also has other uses. He also can take it off if he wants to, it's not fused to his face.
Is there any stage in the new DLC where the Ide freaks out again and goes Stage V?
Still odd that they managed to make chunks of their DLC integrate into the world setting better than 30, but not the actual in-game plot outside of the DLC scenarios. One step forward, one step back.
>>23972895So far, I've seen a scene where Cosmo mentions the gauge is freaking out, but nothing actually happened gameplay-wise.
>>23972890Discotek lost the rights to the J9 shows so some old shows do have license fuckery
>>23972890The issue isn't gross costs, it's that some copyright is either disputed by various parties (Harmony Gold situation) and it would take too much effort to go to court to see who actually has the rights, or odd cases like the estate of late authors like Yokoyama (Giant Robo) who charge an arm and a leg to allow any of their properties to be used.
>>23972899They clarify a few plot points in the DLC. For example, did anyone remember, or even know, that Scirocco was in cahoots with Prospera the whole time?
>>23972904>>23972902I know there's issues and shit but that's besides the point, I wanna know the literal dollar cost to borrow something like Goshogun
>>23972890>but like how much do they have to pay for stuff like God Sigma?Discotek got the rights for God Sigma not tha tlong ago and is Toei show so probably not that much hopefully. Also the fact voice actors were already recasted by the time it made it to Z so they don't have that issue as well.
There's also the issue of if you can get the material on an older show, at least, if you wanted it. I think there was trivia that around the time Daitarn first started appearing in SRW, there weren't any rereleases around, so they went on vague summaries or something, and used footage a staff member had recorded on old VHS or something.
>>23972911It was a handful of episodes they collectively had recorded among the staff. Thats part of why SRW Banjo is always cool rich guy superspy and not an absolute clown like in the other half of the show.
>>23972915Hey, I liked the episode where Daitarn got drunk!
ONE TWO THREEAJIBA 3
>>23972919I like the goofy parts too but SRW but Banjo's the butt of the majority of the jokes while SRW plays it all a little more seriousAlso Beauty and Reika never got their jet helicopter thing in SRW even back when they included stuff like that
This is just as funny in-game as it was in the show.
I just tested it. Treasure missions, the 6 flashback missions for the war and the villains, Tactical challenge missions, Caruleum's side missions, treasure missions, Iris' survival missions and all DLC missions (even the variety pack, not just the ones to get new characters) are carried into the Expansion if you didn't finish them in the main game.Basically, what you can carry over to the post-game can be carried over to the Expansion.
>>23972923Though DD did use a sillier attack for Daitarn where he points up to let the enemy know his weapon's about to hit their head.
>>23972927Nice looks like Olibee and Relina are the only two things you need to get in the base game before starting the expansion
>>23972927Also, I can't test a clean save though, because if there are game saves available it won't even give the option of trying a clean save for the expansion.
>>23972375I heard some spoilers/leaks for next week's what if thing, and I just want this in more things.
>>23972791It almost seems like they added S2 at the last minute. In general, in how many stages is Calibarn playable ?
>>23972953I doubt it was last minute since the only big thing missing is Shaddiq getting his ass kicked is map only. All the other big moments are there
Any big changes to how some of the other bosses are taken out? People have mentioned Scirocco and WFM S2 stuff, what about taking out Godzilla, Saint Dragon, Barao, etc.?
>>23972953>It almost seems like they added S2 at the last minute.No way. Witch gets tons of CG images and the story keeps going back to it due to covering from the end of s1 through all of s2 just here. It's definitely not just something they threw in at the last second.
>>23972899It's not like pre dlc games don't do that. Someone like chirico has nothing to say most of the time.
>>23972953>last minute>Has basically every major unit and event from S2
>>23972966>Someone like chirico has nothing to say most of the time.On brand for him
>>23972966It's more comparable to some secret characters. Kaworu in V is probably the worst I've seen that I can remember. He literally says nothing after joining before the final stage.There's that one Yamato event where everyone is forced to sleep and it'd be perfect to give him a scene and yet nothing.It also happens with attack-only characters, even though there's no trigger issues or anything here, the team just didn't seem to care about them most of the time, like the Brave Express in V generally gets more characterization than in the anime, but Might Gunner, who is one of the few that gets to show off his personality in the anime, actually has almost nothing throughout all of VXT due to being just an attack. Mic Sounders and Goldymarg in T also barely appear in the story.I guess 30 and Y actually avoid this regarding attack-only characters though, like GunMax appears fairly often in 30 and Y basically doesn't have attack only characters in the base game. The DLCs do have a couple, but they're generally integrated into the DLC stories themselves, just don't appear in the main one like the actual main pilots/units.
>>23972980>Kaworu in V is probably the worst I've seen that I can remember. He literally says nothing after joining before the final stage.Suzaku in 30 if you get him early too
>>23972975Okay z2 gekkostate then
>>23972990They're keeping away from everyone so of course they're not gonna say shit.
>>23972908I think only Toshiya needed to be recasted for Z same with Marin from Baldios. >>23972911That would explain how Combattler V, Raideen, and Daitarn 3's debuts in 3 were handled. Combattler and Raideen have one stage each where they defeat their rivals and then that's it while Daitarn just shows up out of nowhere. Unlike the other shows especially the Gundams where they adapt all the different story beats.
Utsuro uses the same kanji and in some ways fits the description for the taikyo referenced in Z3 but is different enough that it might not be the same thing. Hope it's not because they were a fucking disappointmentrecap:>The Taikyo is the will behind the power of destruction that drives the Baal and results in the end of the universe every 12000 years. The factors in the Invaders are said to be from a world that operates on different rules, and is the enemy of all living things and an "eternal darkness". The angels are afraid of it and the entire plot of Z3 is them trying to come up with a way to survive the regular scheduled destruction, which is caused by it.>The naming indicates that it's clearly meant to be some sort of equivalent to the Taikyoku = So, given how Taikyoku and Taikyo are supposedly either synonymous or intertwined in some way in Confucianism and Buddhism >Also the "kyo" (虚) in taikyo (大虚) is the same as in "kyooku" (虚憶) used by Euzeth when talking about memories from past lives.Utsuro is also 虚>>23972672>Final boss had a hard version you can choose to fight when she spawns in but I just fought the normal one since my gameplay had already devolved into feeding Getter infinite turns any time a boss showed up.I still one turn killed itThe only difference is she's level 200 and it's a fucking pain because she becomes a damage sponge and you also level up EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU HIT HERI just did my same usual infinite turn kaiser gridknight to one turn kill her and it's plain fucking mind numbing no unique gimmicks no different dialogue or moves just level 200
>>23972836Calibarn doesn't get its best move until the second last stage and until then it's super three attacks taisen where its strongest attack is a shitty cannon shot that can't be used post-move
>>23972946I saw the new KMF posted on the wiki.
>>23973004>>23972672Wait ONE thing I'm not sure if is tied to the hard version of the final bossI got a post credits where in the far future you see the emperor of Ra Val and Tsukinowa Psi (the far future ninja boss that Googolplex copied its appearance) talking about how they're having peace talks with the utsuro and also casually drop how Ra Val has been allied with Earth for 3000 years and the Getter Emperor fleet is a force of peace and justice defending everyone meaning the future was changed for the betterThere's still shit from the previous DLCs that wasn't resolved but it seems like this is meant to be a definitive endingunrelated but Crow says that Hibiki is coming to pick him up and that the sphere magically fucked off again after the final boss fight
So between Z3 showing up in 30 and 30 being able to forge parts from all the other entries in the series, as well as OGs from the actual SRW games and not the OGs series, and then 30 showing up in Y and VXT being scattered around as well, they really are trying to sell the SRW multiverse or reincarnation-verse or whatever, huh?
vangray >>>>>>> brasta
>>23973011I see now I forgot the image
>>23973014Y's Crow stuff takes place after the Z3 ending and he openly talks about the gate shit they introduced thereWhich makes no fucking sense because the angel shit from Z3 is constantly referenced as being pulled from a previous or ancient universe but it seems like they really just don't give a shit about the setting anymoreWhat really feels low effort is the fucking sphere just coming back with no explanation and then fucking off again after the final boss is defeated though
>>23973014That was always a thing, all srw games are part of the same multiverse, that's the point of gilliam and the crossgates showing up in both trilogy and og. Well, euzeth also kinda spelt it out in 2nd ogs.
>>23973014The real answer is to not think about it too hard
https://youtu.be/ZqBivV0NTS0?t=83
>>23973013Feels like this game should have ttgl but it just doesn't. You can tell nakashima was thinking of arc when he wrote it.
>>23972786Lost forever, also boss Aerial is super two attacks taisen where one attack is a map with no animation and the main attack is the bits shooting you and aerial not actually doing anything
>>23972731The ending of Z3 literally had magic not-crossgates to other worlds appear out of nowhere with no explanationCrow says that he and his pals are now Gate Travelers and he does this shit all the time
>>23973004No mention or sign of the magic evil cat from DLC1No mention of the retarded robot from DLC2 except once when they say "look it's robots that retard robot from DLC2 also summoned"Usurper is mentioned a few times but the foreshadowing about someone who led him to the black knowledge in the first place is completely irrelevant to the expansion
>>23973031Well, it's accurate to the show. It only stood in one place and rain beams on Suletta. Suletta also does nothing but run away and maybe shoot something that blocks the way forward.Y's Calibarn unironically has more interesting choreography than the show, it was that bad
>>23973021>>23973014There's nothing to think about. It's a multiverse and some universes like V's and Z's are trapped in a cycle usually the games end with you breaking it
>>23972318He's put out a few stinkers before. Can't tell if it's motivation or other limitations but he doesn't have a 100% batting rate.
>>23973015I can agree with that but R/B are a better upgrade than Nex/Vang
>>23972318They could have just done manga's team attack where they all connect their reactors to the TWBR
>>23973041The multiverse has frequent resets and people speculated that the Z universe might be the earliest in all of SRW depicting the origin of the crossgates (which Terada previously talked about as a thing that would be important someday). But Now Y is taking place right next to the end of Z3 while also saying the Z series took place in an ancient forgotten previous universe. It feels like they just stopped caring about the setting after Terada left.
>>23973042Yeah, but, it's easily stuff like low framerate (Granvang) or lack of impact of a melee attack due to the movement just being fluid without impact frames. Lack of movement and relying on stills doesn't feel like his style, even if the sand/explosion seem to follow what he has done with Wing Zero.
>>23973046Who says it's the next universe after Z3?
>>23973050Every single game that has pulled Z3 angel enemies said that they're from a previous universe
>>23973046It's just a multiverse and leave at that. Hell, OG games are now canon to main timeline Street Fighter
>>23973052Terada cared enough to make EF and PXZ and ACE appearances concrete canon to the timeline to the point that Haken fucking references seeing the arc de triomphe before in OGMD because he saw Sakura Taisen 3's version of it in PXZ
>>23973051That doesn't mean it's the exact previous one unless the wording specified that
>>23973055It's not going anywhere either way man, trust me as a long time trails fan
>>23973056the point is that it isn't a "previous" universe at fucking all if it's an existing parallel one right now as Crow fucking establishes
>>23973039>More interesting choreography than the showI genuinely thought CGI at the time would be an effective way to animate robotsIn the end it was always dull and stiff and the bits did all the work almost every time
>>23973060All this and people forget about the shadow mirror's
>>23973062No, cgi definitely helped animate in a way hand drawn animation couldn't, but it would still take effort and wfm never prioritized action scene.The cg studio did muvluv and gridman, so it's not like they can't do better
>>23973062>I genuinely thought CGI at the time would be an effective way to animate robotsIt can be, the animators just have to not suck
>>23973050The characters can be brought through time and space. SRW30 had Sanger from post-Alpha 2 alongside Alpha 1 characters.Advent in 30 said the events from Z3 happened 120000000 million years ago but that same game had the Z3 monsters getting pulled over too.
>>23973059That's why I say it's multiverse where some universe go tho cycles because they also established parallel universes
>>23973060It's pretty obvious there have been cycles before the Z games
The Ikaruga actually feels really nice as a combat ship this early on, tape a Propellant Tank to it and it can solo half the map thanks to its barrier since it's not like you're actually using the EN for anything else.
>>23973070>>23973071As it turns out I don't want or like accurate actionI want to see what the animator wants me to see
>>23973046I'm actually glad shit like that image is dead from SRW
>>23973046>t feels like they just stopped caring about the setting after Terada leftI think they stopped caring about OG before he left too
>>23973081Okay, that has nothing to do with anything we said though
>>23973039I've honestly never liked the Calibarn and have never understood the appeal. It was all flash and not in a good way, since a lot of it was the "It looks fast, so it must be good!" that I hate a lot in modern anime in general.
>>23973055Which also means Armored Core is canon to the SRW OG multiverse.Because ACE:R and Nineball Seraph. Winter 1 specifically states he found a relic from another civilization adrift and repaired it to full functioning form.
>>23973094No it doesn't, y'all say it can be done wellBut I'm saying it is worth the trouble to just storyboard and animate something rather than to have a 3D model do a thingAlso all the studios seem to think 3DCG is a pass for more intense combat, and that's like the one thing thats as bad as the plot, characters and dialogue in the Origin
>>23973101It's basically just witch broom gundam, that's it.
>>23973108do you think 3dcg is a magic animation button? they still have to animate the model and obviously they have to storyboard it first. you can dislike the result but your logic is retarded.
>>23973112My logic is retarded but the oceans of shit speak for themselves You can draw with an emphasis on capturing a great sequenceOr you can have some 3D puppeteer animate [ocean of garbage that modern action shows is full of]
>>23973108>y'all say it can be done wellIt can, yes. No, I will not elaborate further.
>>23973117genuinely the one time in modestly recent memory i didnt hate 3D animation was Invisible Victory, and even that has the infamous car chase
Happy 35th birthday, Yohei Azakami.
>>23973136
I have been avoiding /m/ and youtube because I didn't want to be spoiled on the Anniversary Expansion, but I read somewhere that they gave dialogue lines to DLC characters in the Ch.1-7 main missions, is this true? I was going to wait until Ch. 6 or 7 before doing DLC missions
>>23973070>The cg studio did muvluv and gridmanAnd Xenoblade too.
>>23973142I think that was false news, the DLC characters just get actual story lines in the expansion, not in the game proper still.
Crowe's love for his husband Lockon is still as strong as ever
>>23973142Where did you see that? And, yeah, like the other anon said, I've only heard about the DLC characters getting lines in the Expansion. That said, I haven't tried playing through the main game to see if anything changed though.
Can you use the Red Hero team attack as Izuru even if Dynazenon has already combined in the map?
>>23973149>Where did you see that?I remember someone said it here but I think he just misunderstood when they said they were getting dialogue in the expansion
>>23973150I highly doubt it seeing as the main guy would be Gridknight right? You can't exactly separate the two after they combine. I mean I have no idea but I assume that would be the case.
>>23973152Yeah, the first mission in the expansion is very close to the first mission of chapter 7 since it's point where the new timeline diverges, so during that part you kind of get the DLC characters speaking in the middle of what's very similar to main game dialogue, but I just 2 main story chapters and 2 side chapters in the main game and no one got lines, so nothing seems to have changed there.
>>23973148Anything other than “targeted and firing”?
>>23973039That’s not entirely true, EXVS has Eri rebuild’s full kit, it does things like drop kicks which it did do in the show
>>23973101Well the entire point of Calibarn is that it’s a prototype machine that can go fast but at the complete detriment of its pilot, not sure how else you can demonstrate that besides what they did
So how does the crew get sent to the past?
>>23973182Groundhog day
>>23973184Mysterious reasons and they keep looping until they fix everything?
>>23973187No, Echika just zones out at some point after the first Godzilla (the forced retreat one), wakes up at the Café, and everything appears normal until Messer shows up alive. But even to Echika it feels like the world where he died was the 'wrong' one.
>>23973101I like going fast as long as nobody turns into lightning and explodes the ground into cubes.
>>23973246Some speed isn't bad, but a lot of modern anime use it as a crutch. They make action fast but hard to follow as a substitute for choreography. It looks flashy but it's not made for noticing details.
>>23973246I liked when we got the cubes in Legend of Daiku-Maryu, does that count
>>23973006Literally doesn’t matter to me, I just want to have the new stuff
Are you anons ready to fight them again?
>>23973263That isn’t really a modern specific thing, that’s just how some people choose to show speed
>>23973165>The singularity that gave rise to the fixed timeline is literally all the players who bought the SRW Y DLC to add the additional forces to Yz-Next; the money into Bamco's wallet; and cemented SRW's security as a franchise to keep going.Shit- it's almost poetic, ain't it?
>>23973279Anon, the entire world has been having heatwave after heatwave lately. It's literally been turning up the HEATS.
>>23973291
>>23973182It's just Echika's consciousness that goes back.
>>23973279Only if it's not just the fucking Starfish or the goddamn worms.At least the OG Invaders are kind of cool.
Poor Sayaka
I like how we went from the expansion would be Calibarn and maybe a rushed quiet zero to the expansion having the whole of S2Lowered expectations are nice sometimes
>Fa needs to be level 50 to use Nu Gundam Fin Funnels and level 80 to use All-Range Attack according to Akarasu wikiThat's a long wait....She needs Newtype L5 (Should get at level 80) for the Nu Gundam's All-Range Attack.. But only needs L2 (Should get at level 50) for Fin
>>23972980Y has the Dobermans again but usually the other two are around to tell Randy to shut the fuck up when he's horny on comms
>>23973013The post-credits scene is there after the normal final boss too. I don't think it changes any scenes.
>>23973234Damn we were in the wrong timeline all along?
Does anyone have the full setlist of songs Jam Project did for the livestream?
>>23973006Well Calibarn has a cool design, but let's not pretend it wasn't a failed piece of junk. Suletta can only make it work thanks to her special genes and plot armor.
>>23973039The choreography is the same as the show.
>>23973006Rebuild and Calibarn are good candidates for that equip part that starts you with Accel and Charge
>>23973398Intro wasBloodlines ~Unmei no Kettou~Hangeki Fight Back!Concert part proper wasDiverging futuresDimension Driver Dido!VICTORYGONGSKILLAnd to close it off a homage cover to Ichiro MizukiMazinger Z
>>23973406Calibarn would fry a normal human in 5 seconds and Suletta was still completely fucked up in the end. I remember people said Suletta was a shitty pilot who was carried by Eri but she held her own against her in a machine that was literally killing her
Who did it better Y or Eternal?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgRdXcdbvoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHSC6vxfU7k
>>23972847Not enough of a demand for it. Joe Schoe might buy a normal SRW game if they spot a show they recognize in it, while you can't really get people who haven't been into OG to care about it. Sad as that is.
>>23973043Nah
>>23973434>Regular vs Permet 10
>>23973420I'm still convinced that Suletta is largely carried by Eri.Even in the game, she doesn't have particularly excellent stats. And in the Show Guel seems like a better pilot than her. But we've never seen Suletta on Grunt to see how she really fares in a fair situation.
>>23973448>And in the Show Guel seems like a better pilot than her.He isn't. He never really won against her, that's the whole reason he asks her for a duel when she's going to get the Calibarn.
>>23973437Weirdly I've gotten two friends to try out OGs after using Fantasy Maiden Wars as a gateway drug now that both are translated>>23973448She gets her damage spirit pretty late and until then all she's really got is a cheapish Daunt. Her stats are normal for a MC but WfM's gimmick skill is on the robot and not the pilot.
R or B?
>>23973457>He isn't. He never really won against herOf course not. She has a magic gundam while he have a super Grunt.
>>23973470R all the way
>>23973470T
>>23973470Man, hopefully when they get to Z2 II we can get hi-res images of them.
>>23973420I never said she was carried by Eri, I said she was carried by Gundam in general. Normal people can't use Gundams at all so she has that advantage and even losing Eri which removed the drawbacks of her machine, she was said to just have higher than normal resistance still because she was a clone of Eri. She never has a period where she essentially doesn't just have the best machine in the series compared to other protagonists.
>>23973483https://exhentai.org/g/2096169/93b2879a1b/?p=5You already do though
>>23973434Fuck.. i wanted Prospera with Lifrith as secret.
>>23973446Well it's where they put the most for it's animations.
>>23972800They are literally jobbers for Euzeth's favorite boy so it is all according to the plan.
>>23973459>Weirdly I've gotten two friends to try out OGs after using Fantasy Maiden Wars as a gateway drug now that both are translatedThat's cool, wish it worked on more people but alas.
>>23973494I mean I can't really ever see that happening in mainline SRW since Aerial is the original Lfrith.
>>23973501The average fag nowadays is too scared or something to fuck around with emulation
>>23973493Kinda weird T isn't in there.
>>23973407I guess if Gwitch ever comes back, they'll make Eri make Calibarn fully safe with funnels, but not in this one.
>>23973448Suletta has unironically been actually piloting a MS longer than most other protagonists in all of Gundam. The difference is she started with rescue missions and simulated battles against Eri rather than mowing down grunt units in a war. She isn't used to fighting to kill, and needs to effectively be coerced into the idea by Prospera (leading to the Splat). She was on the verge of potentially accidentally killing Guel in their third duel because she'd gotten a taste of that in combat and riding a bit of a battle high.>>23973471The duel that he asked her for was a 1v1 sword fight. That has nothing to do with having a superior MS.
>>23973516I feel like both IBO and gWitch are basically "no fun allowed" shows for SRW.
>>23973524That's all real robot shows, except Geass and Xabungle maybeGundam was a mistake
>>23973524What do you mean? In spite of being in DD jail IBO gets a lot of stuff, and WfM got most everything it could get.
>>23973523>The duel that he asked her for was a 1v1 sword fight. That has nothing to do with having a superior MS.And it has nothing to do with mobil suits in general. I don't even know why you're mentioning it.
>>23973532The post being responded to here >>23973457 specifically mentioned it as one of the losses he has against her.
>>23973493My wife only appears in Z2 Saisei... fuck.
>>23973494>>23973508Prospera getting her own original villain Lfrith would be like Haman showing up in a game with a recolored Zeta or Char with the Casval Gundam; a neat idea, but not really a thing that would be in the cards for all but the most experimental SRW.
>>23973541I guess with GQX eventually coming in there's at least an excuse for giving him the Red Gundam. I'd suspect the games would count it as still "UC" like they do Turn-A and G-Reco, so the potential for some cross-series piloting there.
>>23973523Still funny to me that Suletta has actually killed more people than Machu.
>>23973547Eri killed even more when she was like 4
>>23973373I wonder if originally all those season 2 things were supposed to be in the base game but were not able to be completed in time, and if they used the anniversary dlc to fully implement themEvery DLC unit or character is listed after all the base game ones in the encyclopedia or the unit list, even ones linked to a base game series like Hi-Nu and Nightingale, but all the new GWitch characters and units are placed exactly near the base game GWitch units
>>23973549Yeah that's extra hilarious.
>>23973373>>23973553I still remember when one anon was spamming that it'd be like Shin SRW's Wing debut.
Z4 is coming
I'm a bit sad that we didn't get Eri Aerial as a playable unit with all the extra bit moves from EXVS
>>23973470>an actual upgrade or a forced SR likeIf you care about gameplay, then B crushes R.
>>23973564>Gameplay in Saisei
>>23973523>The duel that he asked her for was a 1v1 sword fight. That has nothing to do with having a superior MS.He just wanted a win, any win, against her.
>>23973564Supers are always superior to Reals, so it's obvious which one wins here
>>23973559But with a aged up Hibiki and Suzune.
>>23973569Yeah, the one that isnt fighting with everyone else for a 1-1 finisher slot. Read B.
>>23973470R because it forces Crowe to do what he does best, Close Combat instead of attempting to be Lockon III. Sadly it doesn't have a knife
>>23973572Suzune will now be voiced by Ikumi Hasegawa
>>23973541>Prospera getting her own original villain Lfrith would be like Haman showing up in a game with a recolored Zeta or Char with the Casval GundamNot really, it would be more like Marienne showing up with a copy of Anya's knightmare which has happened beforeBut if they were to ever do a Prospera boss fight it would probably be her in aerial rebuild before quiet zero like when she bombed the bunker as a additional filler fight
>>23973575Do I look like I care about something that unimportant?
>>23973470>>23973564>>23973560>>23973569>>23973575>>23973576B makes more sense as an intermediary between OG and T. Furthermore, T's movepool is heavily drawn from B including Unbreakable Fulcrum being a revised version of B's variant.
>>23973539I still can't believe they increased her chest in Z3.
>>23973582R is ugly as shit and its the worse mech.
>>23973581the pipe dream scenario of Armored Core getting into SRW somehow with 4A or VD, letting them actually take advantage of WfM's "We have an AC plot happening in the background" stuff...Imagine a double boss against Prospera in the Aerial Rebuild and J in the Totally Not White Glint
>>23973586But R is better
>>23973581https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC38BCVjyAU
>>23973596No.
>>23973598yeah a pilot swap like this is the easiest thing they could do, its really only a matter of desire
If they’re going to bring Noto in for Prospera they might as well make use of her and have her record for I don’t Linebarrel in the next game
>>23973595>Totally Not White Glinthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-qFQsC2jgk
>>23973606You really think they'd do Linebarrels in this day and age?
What episodes of WfM do I need to watch to see the mobile suit with the broom everyone likes?
>>23973610Yes because the artist pretty clearly loves doing shit for SRW
>>23973610I mean, why not? The anime being a flop didn't stop it from getting recent merch
The Perfect Mech for Crowe is the one with Knife
>>23973614That's more the manga being good.The anime is crap.
>>23973613They are busy doing capeshit and starwars now.
>>23973621Yeah, and they were busy when they drew a bunch of shit for UX and the V OG robots too
>>23973046It's a Time Dilation I guess, I mean Haken was sent to EF as a baby/Child and He was already a grown ass man by the time Axel meet him
>>23973619I'm sure Shimizu would get them to use the manga if they ever brought it back.Anyway we still need a game where Yamashita and Musashi/Benkei compare extendo-arm techniques
>>23973630HINDTANK
>>23973608Man I was rewatching that literally an hour, hour an a half ago tops. It's still a pipe dream but can you imagine how much fun that'd be to see it happen officially?
>>23973572>aged up
>>23973033I thought that The Gate at the end of Z3 was used just to send Hibiki to a journey and they never try to use that again after that. But I guess they are too reckless about it
>People jumping universes everywhere and help out>Cobray is too pussy to enter OGverse because "Muh factor"
>>23973595>>23973608>>23973633You know now that it's brought up, an AC tactics game could be a lot of funShit, isn't Y made in Unity? Could actually mod the game to see that happen eventually.
>>23973598>>23973581Wonder what would happen if they gave Marianne a Guren SEITEN
>>23973637Funny how no one ever jump from OGverse to another SRW universe but hilariously some OG Natives managed to jump to an ACE universe and a universe with Street Fighter and Devil May Cry in it
>>23973575How often are you actually piling 4 dudes around one boss outside of AP
>>23973646From what I recall the ACE R universe was pretty Armored Core coded too
>>23973649Kinda irrelevant at this point anyway. I'm sure they'll rebalance the game and 1-1 attacks barely even exist at this point unless Y brought them back (didn't play it)
>>2397361123 and 24
>>23973651There's uhhhhhh like one. Maybe the DLC added another.
>>23973610Well, shimizu is famous enough to get in gundam now so it's not hard to imagine bandai wanting to use his manga
B is still better because gameplay wise R and B aren't too different except R has less ammo for its sniping attack and better MAP
>>23973656>shimizu is famous enough to get in gundam nowWhen?
>>23973666He's literally the designer for the new Gundam
>>23973670Not that you can tell very easily since it looks like a fairly generic nondescript Gundam
>>23973673I'm pretty sure everyone clocked it as his just from the proportions and the cloak
>>23973679>proportionsNot at all. It looks noting like his other mecha.
>>23973679It's the chinstrap
>>23973529I mean in the sense that they don't want SRW making up stuff or messing with their story. DD outright gave up on adapting IBO s2, reused some Tekkadan character moments and the upgrades but didn't do any of the Gjallahorn plot at all.Witch has some tweaks to make it work better as a game (like Aerial Rebuild's debut before they adapted the s1 finale and early Calibarn without its full power) but also has had no saveable characters at all for example. The changes are all really more "here's what we need to do to make Witch work under this game's structure".
>>23973691>>23973689Yeah, it looks closer to his Ultraman power armor than his giant robots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTPWul-o-UYSRW when?
>>23973706Taniguchi Yoshitaka (the man who designed Bellzelute, Wildraubtier Schnabel, and the K protag mechs) helped with this btw
>>23973706>parody mecha design from non mecha show is 10 billion times cooler than what headlines actual mecha showsI'm so tired of this meme
>>23973715Also banger from Endoh stuck in a joke OP
>>23973715Sounds about right considering the source
>>23973699How would you even make clone 4 playable?Saving him is easy enough, maybe have someone crazy super robot pilots like the SKL bros break into the facility and free him. But then pharact is still peil house's property and they can't just steal it without inciting international incident.
>>23973699The DLC can't really have savable characters, and because they gave us Elan 5 we literally can't have 4
>>23973723Ironically having just S1 is the only way to realistically save El4n. Kind of like saving Lockon would only work if it was just 00 S1 and not 2
>>23973721That lady that knew Propera sneaks Elan 4 out before he gets blasted to death, he then appears later in the story with an extra S1 Pharact after Elan 5 joined with the S2 Pharact, or maybe you get the option to change the Pharact loadout and depending on the loadout the pilot is 4 or 5
>>23973727pretty much, his only real chance ironically is if they DIDN'T do such a expansive WFM S2, but they actually did a proper expansion so we can't
>>23973730It really shows they always wanted to fully adapt WFM in Y, and the whole Season 1 only was simply because of time costraints or something
>>23973732Explains why it was basically absent after ch.4 and zero interactions in DLC1-3, they didn't want to do anything to possibly contradict the S2 plot
I'm wondering how that one anon that kept begging for Witch Season 2 thinks of the expansion unless they don't actually care about it or Witch and just wanted to be right. That sounds like plausible too.
>>23973734Honestly the Plant Quetta attack would have worked much better if it happened in chapter 5, there are too many things happening plotwise for WFM in the early part of the DLC which would have been better paced in the main gameAlthough I guess they would have skipped "Bob" entirely if that was the case, but it's not like he contributed anything at all as a secret outside of providing the S1 Daribalde. Also Miorine would have disappeared until the endgame which I guess would have been bad for a player that wanted to get extra credits
>>23973728If there was another pharact then they wouldn't have to use the forbidden prototype gundam so clone 4 and 5 has to share one pharact. I think it's kinda pointless, I'd prefer if clone 4 just went somewhere peaceful.
>>23973727Is there something stating that Lockon MUST die like Kittan? Like if they pulled a W and was in a comma or something for some time and had him launch in the Dynames SAGA later on, it's a good partner unit for the Cherudim if they wanted to have both brothers around or tag him along for 00Movie in the Repair one.
>>23973757>tfw can't deploy hallelujah in kyrios>tfw can't deploy regene in virtue>tfw can't deploy graham in exia repair
>>23973738I wanted Witch s2, but it was mostly because I felt base Y left too many obvious loose ends with Witch. I'd be happy with anything we got that led to a conclusion.
>>23973744>If there was another pharact then they wouldn't have to use the forbidden prototype gundamWith how early Calibarn debuts here, that doesn't seem to be an issue. There were plenty of mobile suits still working.
https://twitter.com/SUNRISE_web/status/2085561576149688598
>>23973757>Is there something stating that Lockon MUST die like Kittan?It hasn't been confirmed to be a directive from above, no, although people assume it because they never did a living Lockon I.
>>23973767Well Calibarn was always around, its the setting's Zudah basically, but even in lore they made multiple Lfriths even beyond what we saw in the prologue but Peil only made one Pharact in secret
>>23973773> they never did a living Lockon I.it's not like there was ever much opportunity for that when the only normal SRW game 00 TV has been in was Z2
>>23973738>beggingI was predicting. Series is whatever to me, I just figured it was obvious that they'd want to do its plot in the debut.And I already gloated last thread.
>>23973757they never included 00 tv since z2
>>23973788lol you also thought universe, freedom, and delta movie 2 would get in but they didnt
>>23973789Yeah I know, but I was wondering if there was something like in the case of Kittan that they would simply be unable to do a "what if he survived" scenario.We had 00 AWotT a bunch of times so there was still a chance that they could bullshit a reason there.
>>23973795no, he's a 00 tv character. anew is in z3 but she's never shown on screen.
>>23973795Not really. I don't think they've ever done something like that. They'd have to have 00 TV on the roster in order to include Lockon, that's generally how it works. It's the same reason they never bring back Gai in games that only have Nadesico PoD even though the SRW team clearly love Gai probably more than he deserves
>>23973773They did in Card Chronicle of all things. Apparently, that game had both Lockons around at the same time. Kamina still dies, IIRC.
>>23973793Wrong anon then. I did not think Freedom and Gridman would be DLC. I did predict MJP movie and Delta though.
>>23973804Surprisingly, Gai's absent in BX.
People didn't think WFM S2 was gonna be DLC because it was too much, and that's true it would've never been in a normal DLC, this expansion stands out from both Y and 30 DLC and honestly sets the standard on how some future dlc should be done
>>23973820>honestly sets the standard on how some future dlc should be doneHow so?
>>23973374But doesn't her NT cap out at 4?
Who was it kept insisting that ZLS movie was gonna be DLC even before the movie was out, how are they handling it not happening?
>>23973821I don't care for DLC series that comes in with one to three units, MAYBE one mook and MAYBE a boss while barely being plot present .The way the expansion works inadvertently enhances every other dlc pack by making everything more integrated
>>23973816He's there as a spirit ghost, and gameplaywise akatsuki filled his role anyway.
>>23973810Oh it actually did, at least that means there's a chance it could happen again.
>>23973830I think the only way is if they did both seasons at once. Though, I think DD still had him die. I think Card Chronicle also made Nena Trinity playable, so that oughta please whoever wanted that.
>>23973828It's still interesting that it's the only game with just TV that doesn't try to save him like all the others do. He's already dead by the Nadesico shows up.
>>23973836After 15 years they finally realized they never did show-accurate nadesico
>>23973840He could die in A, although it wasn't the tv show's death.
>>23973840The inverse of Allenby dying for no good reason
>>23973855kek it's like if cagalli just keep dying in every srw game
>>23973853J was more show accurate than A since even if you save Gai, he doesn't join your team until the endIf you save Gai in A, he's with you the whole game
>>23973853Not to mention you can't save him in A, if you want Master Asia.
>>23973862AKA the easiest decision ever
>>23973869Not quite. Gai is a lot more relevant than Master Asia storywise. Gameplaywise, Ultimate Tenkyoken does the same damage as Love Love Tenkyoken. It does have the advantage of being 1-2, but the only important retreating boss after you get Master Asia is Lemon. Even without Master, you can just use Rain if you want Domon to hit hard
>>23973757He lives in Card Chronicle.Neil and Lyle are pretty distinct in both fighting style and character wise too. All you really need to do is have Neil "die" at the usual point for Tieria's character development to happen (arguably Setsuna as well) in S2. Nothing stopping you from bringing him back at some point after that.
>>23973836I want Gai in PoD in modern games
>Getter suddenly gunning for Seivas after the stage where he saves IzanaIs the twist going to be that their children will bring an age of prosperity and understanding between humans, Ra-vaal and Evolvers and prevent the Getter Emperor future?
>>23973065>>23973076learn to read you low IQ retard
>>23973920You are never going to have a payoff for the multiverse setup even if terada stays in the company for another 20 years
>>23973636No? They literally said that they were using the gates to send the cursed travelers back to their home worlds and then they can use them to visit The Y DLC ending also says they're using the gates to send all the Y DLC people home too
noooooooo don't send me back to water maps planet
was Yamato S in water I forget
I just got the A. Advent back, how many stages are left?
Did they lower the requirements for squads or something? I went from Rank C to S and last time I played was sep last year
>>23973279Im more excited for these assholes. Luv me dinos
https://www.suparobo.jp/35thanniversaryhttps://www.famitsu.com/article/202608/81023So, there are more interviews beyond the Go Nagai one. They just uploaded one with Goro Taniguchi. Turns out he is a SRW fan. I guess that explains Geass' treatment in SRW. He really wants Scryed in a mainline console SRW, alongside Infinite Ryvius. They censored the part of the interview where he mentions names of series by other people he wants in SRW though...
>>23974036There was a bug that was stopping ranking up until certain points of the game, and they eliminated that.
>>23974051Dealing with these fuckers in NUR is hellI'm excited to do it all over again in English
>>23974054Of course Taniguchi is a SRW fan, he spent pretty much his entire career coming up with anime original mecha showsA shame he wouldn't push for Back Arrow though. That show absolutely should have gone down as a classic, I don't know why no one watched it, and I think all it needs is a SRW appearance for it to get the recognition it deserves. GxS was basically the same way, even. After GxS got in T, its popularity seemed to take off and it started getting a whole lot more merch than it previously had
>>23972885Man, if they gave even former villains, including final bosses like Izana, happy endings, then I'd wish Selena got a good ending... Too bad it will never happen because OG died with Terada leaving Bamco.If you're gonna ask me what kind of ending I'd give Selena, I will answer with something stupid, so don't even try.
>>23974099>I don't know why no one watched itIt was bad.
>>23974110Izana was about as much a villain as Mai.
>>23974110Didn't selena get a good ending in Alpha 3
>>23974112not anywhere near as bad as aquarion shows, macross delta, nobunaga the fool, captain earth, amaim, etc
>>23974057That's not a bug, you just stopped getting points if you don't go past certain upgrade bar threshold. The devs conceded and just removed the limiter for some reason.>>23974099Back Arrow was just too old school for post covid era, and these days it's hard to make a decent looking mecha anime on a shoestring budget. Despite using CG, the animation in Back Arrow is very limited, almost like they didn't use CG at all.
>>23974119WfM is really popular and that show is really awful. It's weird what kind of shit floats.
>>23974123>Back Arrow was just too old school for post covid eraI don't know what you mean by that, it was another show in the vein of Geass except actually by the original Geass director>Despite using CG, the animation in Back Arrow is very limitedit felt like it was animated well to me. It's not like Zoids. Now there's some shows that feel like true CGI slideshows
Back Arrow fucking sucked and was boring as shit.
>>23974124Let me be clear I don't think WfM is bad because of yuri. I think it's bad because of writing.There was a scene in The Odyssey where Matt Damon literally says to the camera "our age of bronze is collapsing".All of G Witch is written like that, at that level of quality, and the show has zero self awareness. Okouchi really thinks he is cooking with this painfully on the nose shit.
>>23974124>>23974135No one cares if you don't like the show because of Yuri. The main people here who actually use that a defense for the shit show are a hand full of schizo yurifags >>23974135
>>23974135>I don't think WfM is bad because of yuriIt is though.
>>23974135It's just an entire show with this tier of writing.
>>23974129>it was another show in the vein of Geass How old do you think code geass is? It's only scraping by with the power of nostalgia. Also BA felt more like guren lagann with gun x sword's tone to me.>it was animated wellthey outsourced it to multiple studios, sometimes it looks good but most of the time they stink
>>23974054>Taniguchi If possible, I'd love to see a difficulty setting like a "Winky Mode" (laughs). A super-hard difficulty level where you have to save after every action. The recent Super Robot Wars games have a balance that more people can enjoy, so I think that's the right direction, but I'd also like to experience the difficulty and tension of those older games again.
It's one of those shows where the antagonists get much better shit than the protagonists and you'd have to wait till like the last 10 or so missions till you get to use them.
>>23974146>How old do you think code geass isIt's about twenty years old. Mecha has been around long enough that "old school" stuff is more like fifty years old. Geass is the most recent mecha show I know of that actually did spawn a few copycats (stuff like Valvrave, Cross Ange)
>>23974151you need to get more in touch with reality anon, code geass and guren lagann won't get anywhere if they didn't pander to kids of that era
>>23974153Wait, Code Geass was written for ADULTS?
>>23974054This interview mentioned taniguchi didn't really understand mecha anime and he used SRW as his learning material. It all checks out.
>>23974054In addition to that, what I've noticed most recently is that "different meanings emerge." For example, in "Gun x Sword," the protagonist Van's revenge is depicted as a natural motivation within the work. However, when he becomes a character in "Super Robot Wars" and characters from other works are mixed in, different opinions clash with that motivation. Since "Super Robot Wars" basically features good characters as protagonists, goals and consciousness like revenge inevitably have to be softened and transformed. It's not that I dislike that in itself, but rather I think it becomes an opportunity for the work to develop in a new direction, as if to say, "Ah, that's another way of looking at it." It's like an official re-editing. I think it's an interesting chemical reaction when the philosophy and way of thinking that each work possesses are transformed by being in the same space as other works.
>>23974150The emperor carried that show
>>23974160You act like it wasn't softened in GxS itself. There was no moral ambiguity with the claw. Even the super heroes basically agreed to put him down.
>>23974165The Claw was a threat to the world and had to be put down, also Van was shown to be a decent person multiple times so it was pretty natural to root for him
>>23974054He seems like a bro.
So can I get the V protagonists now that the expansion is out? I missed out on them because I didnt preoder
>>23974228They were released for free when the third dlc came out
>>23974231Oh sick. Time to get back into the game
>>23974165That post you're replying to is just a Taniguchi quote from the interview. And the point he is making is exactly that in GxS Van's revenge is just taken as a valid motivation, not questioned or criticized, while in SRW it ends up treated as a flaw where he develops beyond it. He isn't saying the show portrayed it as a bad thing, it's the opposite.Really, I think this is an issue with how Witch is handled in SRW, and one of the reasons I feel like there was very little creative freedom given to the SRW staff. They always treat Suletta like she's just tv show Suletta rather than someone who has already gone through several real battlefields.
>>23974228>>23974231Reminder that the VXT protagonists and Masaki get boss conversations in the main game starting from the Getter Arc finale. Then every battle afterwards against "final boss" type characters where every protagonist gets quotes against the enemy, they also have those.
>>23974237G Witch heavily relies on Suletta being very naive for its plot to work and I think that the writers were either hamstrung by the creators or were afraid of deviating too far for the debut.
https://youtu.be/Wzg95gSEkd4They uploaded the stream, so you can go find the relevant excerpt about their reasoning for choosing Hakai R.A lot of people really want OG Final. I wonder if Bamco will listen
>>23974237>>23974246if the plan was always to do S2 in the expansion then they couldn't have changed much very heavily, they did give Suletta more interactions and friendships she wouldn't have had though
>>239742651:17:53 is what you want. Auto Translate brought up a "Product Survey" btw.
>>23974154>politics (not surface-level)>table-kun scene (*_*o)>massacres>mass suicidesIt's no GaoGaiGar, that's for sure.
Shrimpy leave
>>23974099Same for Rayearth, I believe. Hence, the remake.
Wearing earphones while blowing up Louise was a mistake, my ears are ringing.
>>23974164Now that's a proper Chinese emperor.
>>23974054>They censored the part of the interview where he mentions names of series by other people he wants in SRW though...Man, really? Learning about what other works an established creative finds interesting enough to think they ought to be in SRW sounds so cool though
>>23974054>He really wants Scryed in a mainline console SRW,DUDE that would dope and they should do that
>>23974265It says in the Z2 section that the UI will change, so its possible the intermissions, VN sections and battle portraits might be like Y.
>>23974373I think it's because he's still a director at Sunrise.
>>23974427I feel among all the things they could change, the UI felt the one which was going to be changed 100%The head only portraits with large text boxes only work on a small screens, but this is going to be played on 1080p or more. You can't just take the original PSP UI and paste it like that
God damn, I actually shed a manly tear here
>>23974436They did the final fights better in the DLC than in the main game. They didn't cram like 3 final fights in a single stage, everyone has their proper final battle.Even the repeat of the Evolver final boss was awesome - they finally said the real reason they attacked, none of that cryptic stuff with smug Izana.
>>23974436Garuda will be back to pilot V6 with them
>>23974427I just hope they at least try to give it a proper design. I fucking hate Y's UI so much.
>>23974449The 30 UI was horrible, but the way the Y UI tries to cram everything towards the middle like a mobile game is even worse.
About to start Y. Is the male MC shipped with the white haired loli? If not I'll just play as a girl...
>>23974476All three are siblings
>>23974054>I guess that explains Geass' treatment in SRW.Geass has the poorest treatment in the franchise for the ampunof entries and shilling it gets
>>23974483What precisely constitutes "good" treatment to you?
>>23973820>People didn't think WFM S2 was gonna be DLC because it was too muchNo? Because there really wasn't a whole lot to cover and if it was in another game they would just start from the very beginning again just to cover a few scenes>>23973820>this expansion stands out from both Y and 30 DLC and honestly sets the standard on how some future dlc should be doneNot really its just like 30's expansion only they just asspull yet another post series story to stretch it out rather than just had them play out in the fucking base story which just shows how much of a waste Y was and how bad the DLC were
>>23974480No incest memes?
>>23974486Not thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN90ZimFtqg
>>23974486SRW can't even decide who's the focal mecha of the franchise and you think Geass up to this point has had good treatment?
>>23974280That's a name I haven't heard for a long time
>>23974498Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEeXq_8VhEE
>>23974237>They always treat Suletta like she's just tv show Suletta rather than someone who has already gone through several real battlefields.Basically, It's KH3 Frozen, all over again. Rightsholders clamping down on how certain proceedings have to be followed to the letter, because it's their golden goose and nothing must be allowed to touch it, etc. etc.
>>23974448>Garuda will be back to pilot V6 with themThis. The toy teaser-trailer shows that after the Battle Armor combines with Combattler V and they finish off the Dark Combattler, there is a lone red-tipped feather swirling in the wind cast-down from above before coming to rest on the fallen Dark's chest.Garuda's battle form is that of, well- a mythical Garuda bird. And he has red-tipped feathered full-body sized wings.
>>23974483>>23974498SRW treats its main cast very wellIts the side cast that haven't had it well since Z2, but thats an issue in general for modern games. Not even Mazinger is safe from that now though.
>>23974448>>23974532Main problem is lack of lines since his voice actor died years ago, so they're stuck with old voice clips. I figure this is why he's not recruitable.
>Lelouch, Suzaku, Kallen and CC constantly get to show up while even the likes of Athrun has been demoted to attack only at least once
>>23974539Yeah, SRW love them, especially Lelouch and Kallen.
>>23974542And in turn they don't like Athrun.
>>23974498Saisei Geass got basically everything.
>>23974539>>23974552I feel like he has the same problem as Kira where because they only do post-plot now they tend to have nothing to do since there's no personal stakes for them compared to Shinn whose story is always him getting over the past. Though at least UX had Athrun going Quattro during a Federation meeting which is more than can be said for Kira.
>Had to get Echika's approval before he can breed with IzanaHeh
>>23974538If he's just a subpilot most of them don't have much dialogue anyways
Kino...
>>23974538If they can manage with the same couple of Todd's lines from SRW F then they can figure out something for Garuda.
I know they've done the real ending as DLC a few times now but making an improved version of the ending that's in the game already and then selling it seems scummier somehow
>>23974556Z2 did Geass so well it basically spoiled us.Wish they'd give us the side characters again.I really am looking forward to Z2R though, with or without new stuff.
>>23974586I need Cornelia...
>>23974589Ultimately, blame Bamco and their greed on blowing money on the MMO gacha. The good side of this is that, so far, they know they can't get away with such scumminess on remasters and they need lots of those to fill their release schedule.
>>23974586Didn't one of those guys betray us?
>>23974589>making an improved version of the ending that's in the game already and then selling it seems scummier somehowFirst time?
>>23974115She up and disappeared from the world after the end of the Balmarian War. It may be a good ending to some, but it left people with more questions.
>>23974616>>23974589at least your actual ending is a DLC not in a different form of media
>>23974620I am now reminded of the FFX-2 book. I wish I wasn't.
>>23974621Nobody counts that published fanfic
>>23974589The ending stages were better besides all the recycled OG enemies having a gorillion HP on Expert but I think Googolplex just being a cosmic retard was worse than the Willforce or especially Valblem, some of it can't be helped since they don't get a whole game to build up the last chapter like the main enemies but still
>>23974621>Kick ball>Head goneThis is why I hate sports
>>23974617Isn't she basically a not!ninja? Disappearing into the shadows after the job is done is what they do
>Aqua: (Those two… Lt. Kyosuke Nanbu and Lt. Excellen Browning from the ATX team, I think. The greatest pilots in the Steel Dragons…. They are really quite a sight.)Do you agree with Kyosuke and Excellen being the best pilots of the ATX Team?
>>23974639Compared to the rest? Absolutely.Bullet and especially Kusuha are hard carried by their mechs being retarded strong, Lamia is a bot. Sanger is the only one that is probably better but he's hardly ATX anymore.
>>23974642Kusuha's better than you give her credit for. Its just that OG for whatever reason likes making her second fiddle to Bullet.Neither Sanger nor Lamia are ATX anymore.In the greater Steel Dragons, I feel like there's quite a few pilots better than Kyosuke/Excellen.
I hadn't played SWR in more than a decade before coming back on 30 and I really disliked the whole chose your mission thing that had to account for you not having certain characters and made the game not feel much like a crossover. Now that Y is completed I was thinking of picking it up. Does it still have that problem or was it changed after 30?
>it's chapter 15 and I'm deploying 20 peopleSaisei is a long game.
>>23974653Y does what 30 tried to do substantially better
>>23974653if Y sucks also for you there's always Fantasy Maiden Wars for a spin
>Mirage in the cuckquean chairDid Banpresto had to do her dirty like that?
>>23974670It's more closure than she would've gotten otherwise without the movie really
>>23974556>Saisei Geass got basically everything.But a good animation, writing or even a good IF route
>>23974680You sound like an annoying cunt that's incapable of enjoying anything so I'll hide your posts.
>>23974535>SRW treats its main cast very wellNo they don't because the two main characters don't get any focus>>23974539Athrun is playable and has a new attack whereas CC is relegated to support
>>23974653You can always wait for Z2 remastered if you want a more traditional SRW stage structure
>>23974687>Athrun is playable and has a new attack whereas CC is relegated to supportWhat else would CC be?
>>23974684And you sound like a faggot that defend anything Bamco gives you so I'm just going to keep making fun of you
>>23974687I believe they were talking about Z3 where all three are playable and Athrun was demoted to only appearing for one of Kira's attacks.
>>23974621That's the one where Tidus dies again by kicking a mine and Sin somehow returns, right?
>>23974698yep, a mine that looked like a Blitzball
>>23974670Not like she ever stood a chance. The love triangle in Delta was forced just for the sake of tradition. I don't think Hayate even knows she likes him either.
>>23974704I only watched the TV series but didn't the movie make Mirage less of a cuckqueen
>>23974705I believe the movies either downplayed it or just removed it entirely. So, in a way, yes.
>>23974705For one, TV Hayate is literally dense to all obvious signs of love until literally the final episode, while the movie makes him more proactive on his feelings for Freiya, while Mirage got way better at piloting and they naturally work better as a pilot duo.
In Alpha, doesn't the game let you choose between Minmay and Misa? I think Z3 also let you choose between Ranka and Sheryl.
Is there any different in the Forte route?
>>23974615They actually included a girl who isn't Akane, Rikka, or Mujina.
Love is cringe.
>>23974615>>23974722I thought Yume always got more attention in promotional than Mujina since she's Dynazenon's female lead.
>>23974642OG Kusuha got flanderized around her health-drink and damsel-in-distress kidnap-moment during the OG1 Kyosuke alt-route.
The strongest psychics in the Steel Dragons are Ryusei, Kusuha, Ryoto, Mai and Ing.
>>23974735Was that just in the GBA or is OGs the same way? I wonder if her not being the protagonist of the story anymore didn't help.
>>23974687>C.C.>One of the two main characters The main characters of Code Geass are and always have been Lelouch and Suzaku
I wonder what will happen
>>239747672 million in debt
>>23974726She does.
>just remembered the A.C.E games will never be remastered because of SDFA.C.E 2 in particular has DYRL as its finale
>>23974123>post covid eraRetard.
Dynazenon Relive actually has a dedicated stage for it's debut in the expansion instead of randomly popping up in the Macross finale with the other secrets
So what's the new final boss's deal anyway?
>>23974790I'm assuming that means it always comes in by default then. Kinda like Betterman joining in the EP if you didn't do the secret in 30.
>>23974799I think you get the majority of the secrets in the expansion automatically except for Relina and the Alpha Azieru. I think you even get Olibee if you didn't get her in the base game but I'm not 100% on that one
>>23974787Technically they can work on ACE R, but thing is: 1-it's the least popular title of all ACE series, even Portable had better fame, and 2-it has actual vocalized songs directly from Macross Frontier, and that fucks up music rights distribution.
>>23974797>So what's the new final boss's deal anyway?She's a hole
>>23974790I'm still mad it's just a recolor and they only used the actual design for the finisher
>>23974757Yeah, and the last time they got any real focus in a game was Z2.
>>23974790Nei also joins without any need for secrets.>>23974797Some kind of thing from the future that basically will suck everything in the universe into her. I said "thing", because she is not a creature, not even alive to begin with. She kind of... is the opposite of IS (like the other side of existing, that's not not-existing). That's why her first attack (that sinks the A.Advent) shows no enemy unit. It just comes from the other side of a cloud of... something.At first most espers feel something wrong from her, but later on even normal people start to get creeped out by her. Even enemies. Ankoku Daishogun manages to score a hit on her, but nothing happens.To drive the point even further, Echika speaks about her in terms of "arrive" and "leave", not "die" or "live". That's how different she is.
>>23974835So some sort of manifestation of entropy or antimatter or nonexistence or something, huh?Put her up against Perfectio.
>>23974750OG1 was written before they had formalized Alpha 2. They also wanted to put in the lover fights, which is why Kusuha, Ryoto and Leona were all enemies at some point.
>>23974835So she's Kali Yuga
>>23974840She is Abyss/Chaos give form. It's not something like Perfectio, that feeds off emotions. She is sort of like the opposite side of everything. She's not some chaotic will or cool torrent of evil crap, she's like you turn reality inside out, left with nothing you recognize. Even a machine like Garuda feels a sort of primordial fear from seeing her. A lot of characters comment how they're afraid of her, and that only very high-level beings like Emperor Barao can even begin to understand what she is.She's not the usual personification of chaos, because she is not a person. When she first appears, she barely understand what language even is. Through every subsequent interaction with the enemy factions, she tries to grasp basic concepts, like she's something completely alien bot only to humans, but to the universe itself.She'a not cool. She's fucking creepy as shit.
>>23974843I remember OG GBA also had Kusuha having a crush on Ryusei which got dropped in later games and heavily downplayed in OGs. Instead focusing on the love square between him, Mai, Latooni, and robots.
>>23974852GBA was a collection of random setting footnotes and unused lore stuff given form. IIRC this includes the Antarctic Incident, Kai and Elzam
>>23974848Why did she decide to use Forte/Cross' great great great great great Taimanin Granddaughter as an avatar?
>>23974845The way she's depicted is not a deity like Kali Yuga. Googolplex is sorta like the depersonalization of a concept, if something like that is even possible. Like said above, she is so alien to the universe that she is spoken of in terms of "arrived" and "left", instead of "alive" and "dead".
The DLC finally explains what is the deal with the Evolvers: they may seem very powerful to you, but they pale in comparison to what comes at the end of everything. When Googolplex comes way earlier in this timeline, the Evolvers realize they're nowhere near ready to take her on, and finally reveal they did everything because they want an army - you. All that stuff about inheritance and instincts was just that so you could grow to realize your role in this battle. But because Googolplex came way earlier, their hand has been forced and they decide to make you submit by force.
>>23974865What's the deal with the DLC revealing all those loose plot points anyway? Someone said in the last thread that Scirocco was allied to Prospera the whole time, but nowhere in the main game this is ever said.
>>23974856Because it's hot
>In the GBA version of OG1, there was a bug that caused Kai to multiply if a certain action was performed . Later, this became a semi-official running gag (in Shuffle Battler, Kai's Gespenst Mk-II S has the special ability "Doppelganger"). Due to this bug, during the GBA versions of OG1 and OG2, when Kai's existence wasn't widely known, the image of "Kai = Multiplication" became established, and he was treated as a joke character by most players. However, Kai now enjoys enduring popularity due to his own charm, and has almost completely shed his image as a joke character. He is a rather rare example of a character who was initially treated as a joke character but rose from that status through genuine popularity.>This bug allows you to use Kai, who normally only officially joins the game in the latter half of Kyosuke's story, from the beginning of Ryusei's story and from the middle of Kyosuke's story. As mentioned earlier, he has a wealth of powerful skills from the start, and his mass-produced Gespenst Mk-II mobile suit is one rank stronger than other similar models, making him useful for boosting your overall combat power. However, be careful not to duplicate him too much in Ryusei's story, as it may make it impossible to progress.
>>23974867Probably they realized some of that stuff really needed clarification and took the opportunity to do so in the DLC. The Scirocco/Prospera pact is to answer how did Scirocco and Djibril manage to do that light bombardment if only the Evolvers can control the ruins. Even Posaydal/Windermere only amplified something they already had (Bio-Relation and whatever the Macross hypnosis thing was). But Scirocco activated a function of the ruins themselves. The answer is simple: he used Permet to do it. Since Permet relates to the datastorm, he needed Prospera to make use of it.
>>23974848>>23974865So this anti-existence creature from the end of all time is probably explicitly stated to be above Emperor and Godzilla even?
>>23974647>Kusuha's better than you give her credit forShe isn't, that's why she's always kidnapped.
>>23974867The DLC also says Lelouch is a Singular Point.And that Getter Emperor actually stops parallel worlds (like, almost-the-same parallel worlds) from intersection. That's why Crowe only appears once Godzilla vanishes the first time.
>>23974876Googolplex puts Godzilla in gay lizard jail offscreen, it's why the predicted date of the calamity starts to shift
>>23974880>>The DLC also says Lelouch is a Singular Point.Lmao and Geass fanboys will still tell that despite being shilled the most in all of these games Geass has it bad
>>23974879OG is written by salty Bullet fanboys.
>>23974876Just her arrival makes Godzilla vanish for a while and Getter Emperor stop on his tracks in space.
>>23974886kwabooty
>>23974884The reason they didn't do the bullet gets brainwashed plot is that they caught onto the writer's hypnosis fetish
>>23974880>The DLC also says Lelouch is a Singular Point.Pretty sure that was said in the main game since Zero Requiem stops the Axis drop from happening and Char winning leads to the Getter Emperor bad future
Some battle texts seem to have been fixed. One example is the NINJA's "Izunasen" changing to "Izunatsumuji" which is the actual callout.>>23974818Were you also mad about Black Might Gaine?
>>23974915No, because that's the actual design.Let's see, it's like if Noir Ryoma is said to be using Getter Noir but it's actually just Armageddon Black Getter.
>>23974757>>23974687
But really, what was the point of this?
Forte looks too much of a gigaslut. I wish Echika was the main female OG instead...
>>23974959cross promotion
>>23974915>Some battle texts seem to have been fixed. One example is the NINJA's "Izunasen" changing to "Izunatsumuji" which is the actual callout.Oh thank god, at least they're willing to fix translations now.
>>23974966For what?
>>23974959Weird, because its just supposed to be the same unit in LS
>>23974703>>23974698>>23974624I like how nobody remembers that audio drama that takes place like two month's after that actually sets up FFX-3. It was apart of the HD collection >sin returnsThe retarded excuse was that after the bomb scene Yuna unconsciously used an forbidden summoning technique to bring Tidus back to life. But now if he ever stops loving her or something shit he's dead for good. Basically the plot of X-2 is pointless and Tidus back to being just a summon
>>23974990The mobile game.
>>23975007The audio drama is non canon because it was wildly unpopular.
>>23975019They never made it non-canon
>>23975019>because it was wildly unpopular.You know how often this doesn't stop things?
>>23974886>Getter Emperor stop on his tracks in spaceImpossible...evolution shouldn't be stopped, it CAN'T be stopped...I can't have it reduced to potential man again
>>23975035>He is afraid of the End of Everything>He lost motivation like a lazy fat bastard that he isPick your explanation
>>23975043It's always 2
>>23973642So this is what you were trying to talk about
>>23975043>>23975045>>He lost motivation like a lazy fat bastard that he isI knew his fondness for Musashi was a bad thing. We're never getting him to fight or recruit
Getter Emperor is all talk and no show.
>>23975057very regal of him
love me some getter slander
>>23972477How, the Li-Brasta wasn't a thing until Saisei-hen
what about Li-Brasta ES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKAtDpVUCqgRemix guy doing some Precure
>>23975077>>23975080precure srw when
>>23975076Never happening, Crowe will never End Service because he will never be allowed to get rid of his debt.
>>23975081ENTER THE PRECURE EMPEROR
>>23975086>>23975080>>23975081In time, friend.
Esther's best chance is that they release a mainline game right after the Z2.2 remaster with both the Red and Blue Brastas as bonus units and let her pilot the one you don't pic for Crowe like they did with the V and T protags
>>23975093what is esther simply got whichever upgrade you didn't choose for crowe
>>23975093>>23975104Didn't B and R require the Sphere to do stuff?
>>23975105finally, the fanfiction esther DB powers...
>Got mogged in female popularity by Shiony>Got mogged in popularity by Crowe himself>Got mogged in shipping by Neil Leglessther never stood a chance
>>23975070Never underestimate the power of DLC
>>23975120that's why she needs a watanabe redesign
>>23975136Blood vomit.jpg
https://twitter.com/rayearth_info/status/2085923957417644264Hikaru's birthday.
>>23975120>Leglessther never stood a chanceAlways felt weird that she never got full art. Maybe if we get a Z2.2 remaster.
>>23974494Not this time. Echika felt like the little sister of the trio, and Cross is the eldest. After hearing that Izana hooked up with Seivas, the latter is either interpreted as an uncle-in-law, or a brother-in-law, but Forte is still considered the middle child.
>>23975146I don't like the look of this at all
Cute
I'm finally playing through Y but now I'm feeling like I should have played through when it first came out, then done a 2nd run with the other protag once all the DLC was out. That's probably what most people do huh?
>>23975226I miss zoids in srw
>>23975228I just did a run on release and then played the DLC on post-game as they came out, it's not like they change the base game
>>23975238If anything it's probably meant to be played postgame. Other than the kamen riders they all feel endgame level.
>>23974639ATX team shouldn't even exist in the first place, it's just your typical OGverse gimmick
>>23975228>replayGod no this shit is like 130 hours long even after I skipped the other batches of DLC
>>23974054I'm beginning to think that Lost Stories things are secretly what he really wants for Code Geass
on a random note, holy shit there are lots of mecha shows in Tubi
>>23974835>She kind of... is the opposite of IS (like the other side of existing, that's not not-existing)She's an abstract concept on the level of Marvel's Eternity, except she represents a polar opposite universe, which - when the two meet - cancel each other out. She's basically the anti-matter to the universe's matter. Her name isn't Googolplex for nothing. Googolplex is a countable number that happens to be irrepresentable physically, because there are literally less subatomic particles of matter in the universe than it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCfmWRd2geI
My Queen
>>23975146Happy birthday, Hikaru!
I binged all the Y DLCs together so I only just got to the last expansionDid they seriously give Ideon NO MUSIC AT ALL?And what the fuck is the track that they gave it, why is it so shitty?The J9 track is pretty bad too but the Ideon one is way worseAnd in the end what the FUCK was going on at the end of the Eureka movie?What does the shit about the fake flower Dewey mentioned mean?And the Nirvash profile says it's proof that Renton is alive so why is he dead then?Very confusing
>>23974959Kallen makes a joke once you get it. She says that since you can swap into the old unit, Lelouch and C.C. should pilot one each.Lelouch of course, corrects her by saying the Gekkoei Sui's full power can only be drawn out by both of them together.
>>23975386>Did they seriously give Ideon NO MUSIC AT ALL?The estate that handles Ideon music is an absolute cunt thats why.
>>23975403>The estate that handles Ideon music is an absolute cunt thats why.and its the estate of the (now dead) Dragon Quest composer
So do the DLC characters now speak in the base game too, or only in the expansion DLC?
>>23975120deploy the triangles
>>23975403>>23975410Same guys as the one handling J9 music?
You gotta be shitting me.
>>23974959>Code Geass gets treated well in SRW
>>23974925>Lelouch and SuzakuBut according to SRW the main character of Code Geass is Kallen
Need Mommy Annina
>>23975443That's because she's the only one who's available due to not suffering from crippling character problems and issues with secrecy.
>>23975468Imagine a mecha character with crippling character problems and issues with secrecy. They could never be a MC.
>>23975428Bro, your Freyja?
>>23975428>trusting women
>>23974959P-Bandai
>>23975475This.We hate women.
>>23975475>>23975500Which one of you is Wufei?
>>23975229As do I brother
>dlc missions are unlocked every chapter>final dlc mission unlocks as late as chapter 6I regret listening to autists, should've just done this in postgame
Can we go back to linear srw?
>>23975552We will in SRW H, I promise.
>>23975552Z2 is next, bro
Alright, finally punched through the end of my first Y playthrough after all this time. Just gotta get through DLCs 2 and 3 and then I can nab the anniversary pack and see what all the Chapter 7 changes are.
I really have to wonder, has the shield defense ever been a viable thing?I swear I see it only once in a blue moon by either enemies or my own units.
>>23975584Remaster trash doesn't count
>>23975609I hear it's broken as hell in AP but so are most things in AP
>>23975609You need really high skill to trigger it reliably, which means spending pp on pumping people's skill sky high, but it's never been something worth relying on.
>>23975617It's broken on Daitarn specifically and makes Daitarn the only unit in the game that can actually really tank hitsIt means nothing on, like Dragonar-1 or the RX-79 for example
>>23975617>>23975620So yeah, it its skill based that may explain why I see it so rarely...And even then its one of those questions where its "Why bother taking less damage on hit when you can just avoid it?"Especially considering a number of units with shields are Reals>>23975622Daitarn I can see considering how thick he is where you're just stacking to absurdity
>>23975623It's worth pumping Banjo's skill stat too since his Ace bonus is "can crit when using Valor/Soul" and it also raises his chance of parrying. He probably benefits from it more than any other character
>>23975626Oh, thats VERY nice. Could be very worth bumping.
>>23975609Its very good in D and outright broken in MX on units with barriers
>>23975645That would explain it then as the big one I did back then was Alpha Gaiden and I likely didn't know much of what I was doing.When I came back in recently (V) it was likely nerfed hard or just made less viable
>>23975543Final Expansion 1 mission is as late as chapter 7. I do think spreading them through the main game is better because then you don't have as many consecutive missions against a small selection of the same enemies.
>>23975648Generic enemies just tend to have higher skill stats than they used to so Attack Again doesn't work on literally everyoneAnd in the GBA games there's no PP for skills so you're free to spend your bonus stat points on like 20-25 extra skill on everyone with a shield or parry
>>23975656I will say this, I've never been a huge fan of buying skills or ExCThe former has a few it feels you almost need to grab (Potential, Attacker) while the latter just feels like something the devs can build maps around/plan aroundV felt like it had a few maps where you almost needed to build around ExC to get the challenge points but otherwise it feels like there's nothing really stopping a unit from chaining multiple kills thanks to the attack activations.
>>23975656I'm playing through Z2 right now and basically the only people who can make Attack Again work without extra effort are Gainer, Amuro and Apollo.
>>23975662I don't like skill parts because they're stingy as fuck with Hit & Run in every single game and a bunch of units feel like shit without it
>>23975672I feel more that it should be assigned to characters and unlock as they get higher so that units do have pre-built roles like hit and run on snipers (My biggest gripe as I do NOT like snipers without hit and run.) But PP I suppose is the best compromise between making units useable or pre-fitting them.
>>23975662>I will say this, I've never been a huge fan of buying skillsSame, but more for flavor than gameplay reasons. I see the skills the characters have by default as part of their characterization and adding more would just dilute that.
>>23975401How much piloting does Lelouch even do in Gekkoei Sui? It looks to me as if he is only there for the big gun and defense system while C.C. does literally everything else.
>>23975697Thats how all of Lelouch's two seaters have worked yeah
>>23975697Lulu is a gunner while CC handles actually moving the thing, because all his machines have for all intents and purposes been flying tanks.
>>23975697Pretty much, he's a tactician first and foremost so C.C. has to handle the piloting while he's tracking the fight and coming>>23975687 up with plans.>>23975687Exactly how I see itSkills reflect the character and letting everyone have everything homogenizes everything.
>>23975609SRW A had a system where a shield gave you +<amount> of flat HP. So for example, the shield of a GM Custom gave it +2000 HP. The problem with that system, and why it never came back, was you could have multiple shields. So one was destroyed, you got +2000 HP for free. You had 3 shields. Some units had up to 5, I think. You had to hit enemies until they ran out of shields or your attack did more damage than their whole HP (+shield).
>>23975733That sounds positively cancerous
>>23975386You should watch the Eureka movie for that. The game retells a very schizophrenic version of the events. The movie itself drops all of its plot points in the final minutes to show the couple scene, so don't get hung up on it. They just didn't care.
>>23975386I like to pretend that the movie never happens for Eureka 7or anything outside the first show really
>>23975742My dude, you don't know half of the crap that went into ye old SRWs.64 had the dummy system, where you had to hit an enemy's dummies from 1 to 7 times before you could actually hit their unit. Yes, it's those dummy balloons from Char's Counterattack. The worst part is that the dummies had the same evasion as the main unit. Fucking why.Imagine a SRW with dummies from 64 and shields from A.
>>23975746I think GC also had like HP for body parts. Was that because of how you can pilot enemy units?
wat
>>23975750It was supposed to be used to strip enemies of their capabilities (like shoot the arms off the GM Sniper), but who cares when you can just do 2000 more damage and destroy the whole enemy? The enemy mech recruting wasn't that good either, you could only get specific stuff per series.
>>23975750yes, they wanted you to engage with the mech capture system even though it ended up being redundant by like the halfway point outside of putting the UC guys in Big Zams
>>23975522Is it not obvious that it's Wufei samefagging?
>>23975746>dummiesYou forgot to say the boss' skills also activate, so if you use funnels to attack a dummy, the boss can swat the funnels away. Yipee.
>>23975756There was also putting people in Bat-Shus.
>>23975765If you were gonna field L-Gaim units, IIRC GC is like still the only game with Double Buster Launcher, so Bat-Shus are only relevant if you're like some gigafan who's wanting to deploy more than two of the cast
>>23975753Science
>science babies are realOh no...
>still can't keep Keith in the Anniversary ExpansionFor what purpose?
>>23975804He's even one kill away from ace so it looks like you can keep him.
>>23975753>Mama Izana, Step Daddy Seivas and their three children
>>23975812>He's even one kill away from ace so it looks like you can keep him.He was already like that in the base game
>>23975428Time to cast Daunt
>>23975756I'm still annoyed you couldn't use Gigazumune from Dragonar, unlike the other capturable grunts from that show.
Rare footage of Ange speaking with Suletta
>>23975840>Barra Espaciadora
>Nika is a sub-pilot for Chuchu nowSo do you lose her supporter?
>>23975746Ok, THAT sounds worse.>>23975756I mean, if you get enough pilots in them you'll be unstoppable.
>>23975840I just remembered, isn't Ange younger than Suletta?
>Wufei the wedding crasher
I'm testing a bunch of protags against this fuck and why am I getting canned lines for Gridknight, Dynazenon, and the Mazingers, but he calls out FUCKING SULETTA specifically?
>Check Y's OG since I didn't play the game and was curious who the game's guest OG was>no one new until CroweAre they waiting for DD to end so they can put in Compatikaiser/Granzon/whatever? Even still, you'd think they could at least slap on Forte Gigas or something
>>23975925why not?
>>23975925Unique lines aren't guaranteed to play on either side of the matchup in Y which is really annoying when looking for them.
>>23975925I feel like you're taking this far too seriously, he has unique lines for Jet Jaguar too from what I've seen.
>>23975543DLC 1 finale can be accessed in ch.5DLC 2 finale can be accessed in ch.6, I think after the arc finaleDLC3 finale can be accessed in ch.7
>>23975350I would love a remake but Giant Robo makes that impossible and also I heard there were issues with the OGs as well
>>23975930Damn those woke Ra Val...>>23975931Really? Damn, that's annoying. I thought it was odd Gauma didn't call him by name, even.>>23975944I feel like the filename should make it clear how seriously I am taking it.Incidentally, what would you recommend as the path for a first playthrough? I was waiting for the DLC to wrap up before finishing everything.
>>23975872Yeah, she starts 15 and is 16 by the end. Suletta is 17 throughout most of the show.
I thought it was named after King Arthur's sword
>>23975960That's what I thought too. Maybe Lelouch just hasn't read Fate?
>>23975468Well no it's because Suzaku is an antagonist for most of the story and Lelouch is a shit pilot who doesn't get any notable robot until almost the end of the first season.
>>23975960https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalibanShakespeare reference, apparently
>>23975960>>23975957First, Suletta is a tanuki, not a red panda. Second, how the hell you spend all this time not seeing WfM being so on nose about The Tempest!?
>>23974804Hence the non Skip Movie
>>23974757Not since the movie, which basically dominates the canon since
>>23975957He definitely has lines for the Kaiser duo (one line for both, just says photonic energy is the light of ruin or something in those lines) and Getter at least. But, yeah, like the other anon said, these quotes are all based on random chances. They really should make it so the first battle they were guaranteed and then they became random, but in all games ever since it became possible to have more than one quote associated with an enemy they're just random all the time.This is actually the one problem with the recent games increasing the number of interaction possible in battle quotes since it makes it more unlikely you'll see a more character specific quote and instead get some kind of generic reaction based on something like size of the unit or whether the pilot is considered an Ace or commander.
>>23975976I only know MacBeth.
>>23975960It references King Arthur and the Tempest.
>>23975972WfM is literally The Tempest but with Gundams and lesbians
>>23975986The only two things The Tempest had been missing. It's finally a masterpiece.
>>23975617>>23975622>>23975609>>23975620Shield Defense has 100% proc rate as long as you click the defend command or use support defend. Daitarn is the obvious abuser but anyone with shield plus some form of barrier can be disturbingly durable against the correct enemies.Then there's Impact/MX where Shield Defend has 100% proc rate as long as you have shield count...
>>23975733>>23975742>>23975746You're mixing up systems.SRWA had shield act as an additional HP bar and the only way for it to refill is if you use resupply.Impact and MX has a shield counter where shields automatically activate up until that value reaches 0 and never again for the rest of the map. The trick was that the counter only goes down if you do positive damage, as a result Rahxephon, Vikingfu and Garmraid Blaze were functionally invincible once your pumped enough bulk into them.
>>23975957Both routes have their moments. But I like REJECT more. If you choose SPEAK, your endgame will feel lacking for some reason. Not a spoiler, but there is an enemy unit that only appears after the final boss in SPEAK (so it's pretty awkward when someone explains what it is), while the same unit appears earlier in REJECT, and it makes more sense when you meet it later.The order of the chapters also changes.
>>23975986I'm functionally illiterate, so I don't know Shakespeare
>>23975996I'm pretty sure some specific units in SRW A have more than one shield, like the D-1 and I think the Ez-8 Gundam.
>>23976006No. D-1 has the Cavalier parts early on and I think that also has a shield which is why you think that D-1 has multiple shields.Some units just have shields with really massive HP counts for no reason.
>>23975957Reject has harder final few stages and a more epic lead up and final boss battle. It's kind of like the "Super Robot" route in a way due to the nature of the OG enemy and the Infernal Alliance lasting a bit longer here.Talk is the easier route, your main enemies continue to be the armies you're facing throughout the game, and gives more screentime to Scirocco near the end, so it's the "Real" route in a way.Both of these points are kind of supplanted by the Anniversary Expansion though. It has an even more over the top final boss and also gives more screentime and focus to the final licensed villain factions.>>23976001This one bit is weird because you'd think it was some kind of set up for the final expansion, but considering what it turned out to be, that enemy appearing in the post-game really leads nowhere.
>>23975972Huh, I can pretend to be slightly more cultured nowhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_adaptations_of_The_Tempest
>>23975957Pick speak if you are a Ra Val type of guy.Pick reject if you aren't.
>>23975928You're thinking too hard about it, they picked crowe to shill Z2 remaster and it's cheaper than animating something from scratch.
>>23976031I know why they picked Crowe, what's confusing is that there's nothing new prior to Crowe coming in the final expansionV had Grungust/Huckebein, X had Cybuster, T had Gespenst-R, 30 had the SRX, all of these were standard preorder bonusesBut Y has no equivalent
>>23976037Maybe we'll get Rand/Setsuko as bonuses next new mainline since they are going to be in saisei-hen
>>23975931I had to reset 15 times to get Louise to mention Relena against Heero. If there's one qol I want them to add in the remaster, it's making unique lines guaranteed to play.
>>23976037Maybe they don't want it to overshadow the actual OG. Well the reason is laziness but I'd rather have a good OG main character than a good preorder bonus. Like in V and T you can tell the MC's first form felt like second fiddle.
>>23976039Probably Setsuko since Rand is in DD. Of course that's assuming DD doesn't end before we get the next mainline gameNext mainline is probably gonna have SEED Freedom anyway, I'm sure Setsuko will enjoy her boyfriend's glowup
>>23976048Next mainline will probably be Q3 or 4 of 2028 at this rate, so I'm going to guess that DD will probably be replaced by then
Go away lesbo.
>>23976053If that happens could we expect any of the other DD debuts to show up as well. I know IBO is something people have wanted for a long time aside from plotless DLC in 30 and possibly Gridman Universe as well since DD didn't do the movie's plot.
>>23976060Bravern is coming, there's no doubt about that. It might not even wait for DD to die.
>>23976056Setsuko is gay? Did you play Z or are you larping?
When DD dies can we get the complete IBO in a mainline? Will they even be allowed to have Mika live?
>>23976068Duel has a seething hatred towards some lesbian femanon that posts here and he thinks anyone that shows a strong liking towards certain female OGs (Sagiri, Chitose, Ibis, Az, Forte, and apparently now Setsuko) must be his nemesis in his diseased mind.
Do any of the DLC Front Missions have unique NPCs or anything interesting or are they all just straight to killing Psy units like the first one?
>>23976079You can apply that thing behavior towards ANY female character, since we got so many now. Also the simple fact this femanon actually play the games makes her cool.
>>23976079Is he browsing /fg/ and thinking the lesbian femanon on that cesspool comes here to goon? He likes Rean after all.
>>23976085And Cold Steel too, even came up with a scenario for it in SRW, which is more than the guy who doesn't play the games and only faps to Laughing Boy.
>>23976088>>23976090Everyone on /fg/ hates that person, but like they say, the enemy of my enemy (the abominable entity) is my friend
>>23976079I hope that doesn't mean me. I only pop in here like once a month, I'd hate to hear he's having ceaseless schizo meltdowns on my part.
>>23976108no, it's not you.
>>23976085I do remember when he tried some gotcha over that anon playing the non-translated Alpha games by claiming nobody here has played any of the games in Japanese.>>23976088>>23976090>>23976104I don't know if Drool actually likes or even pretends to like CS or goes to that cesspool but I do remember his "nemesis" posting about it, a local Laurafag.>>23976108Probably not but he might conflate you with that Laurafag (also you're posting a WfM image so he's going to seethe at you regardless).
>>23976117I thought it was made clear that he hasn't see, read, or played anything that he claims to like or dislike. He either speed watches or reads synopses and makes up his own headcanon about everything else.
Duel being disgusted by lesbianism and females in general is him larping as asexual. He larps many things, even mecha, of which he started doing since day one.
>>23975815Ninja family
>>23976117>>23976125>>23976126Guys, you should call it like >>23976104 does. Using its real nickname should be taboo.
Drool having a meltdown in the archive lol.
>>23976131I didn't even use the nickname.
>>23976131Nah calling duel by his name sends him into a schizo spiral, watch every time someone calls him duel in /a/ drawthreads.
Wait, duel is the anti IS retard?
>>23976151That wouldn't surprise me, he loves talking about stuff he hates.
>>23976141Let me guess, he calls /a/nons "Duelrager" too?>>23976151Yes. People even bring up IS to fuck with him.
>>23976161Yes, the guy loves to think he's battling a destined match against his life long rival and pretends anyone that calls him out is the same guy, sometimes he pretends he's a third party saying "omg those two have been at it for how many years now??".
i've grown to like this unusual body type
>>23976183Built like a fridge for maximum milk storage
>>23976132Of course he is, dumbass can't stand being called out but he also can't handle arguing with people that can talk back.
>>23976185I'd put my dick in my fridge if it had tits like that.
>>23976183Watanabe really likes barrel bellies, even if, was we saw in Masou Kishin, he is perfectly capable of designing somewhat slim females.
>>23976194I don't get it, he is not banned (or rather he evades) and he is actively posting ITT but he won't reply to posts calling him out here? What a weird fucking character.
>>23976183breedable although the dog is sus
>>23976183>White girl built like a fridge>Dog drawn like an Ugly BastardWhat did Watanabe mean by this?
>>23976197>>23976200>>23976203I dunno what caused Watanabe to go down this route, but I can finally say I will follow him
Takeda Hiromitsu when?
>>23976194Which is why it prefers to pollute the archives with it's ramblings, and even then it cannot help it's own incongruence, like admitting to not watching ZLS despite boasting that it watched all series featured in SRW. Which is flawed to being with since it purposely omits the video game entries like Sakura Wars or Virtual On.
>>23976199Simply put, he's a coward. He won't take responsibility for his actions and hides away from criticism in a place he can't directly be confronted.
>>23976208They really should just let him draw porn already, he clearly wants to.
>>23976224>dude just watch pornShut the fuck up retard.
>>23976214>>2397621As much of a menace he is here, on /a/ he is a cowardly little bitch who rarely acts up since they have more jannies and mods to deal with him.
>>23976231Calm your tits, it's Watanabe we're talking about here. The man draws girls with dick-sucking lips like it's second nature.
>>23976242And there's a place for it, take the stupid binary idea that art has to be either prude men in burka or degenerate furry DeviantArt porn with no in-between. Tastefully thick clothed women are better than just straight up naked bitches showing t&a, but a zoomer raised on every single whore in his class having an OF might have a hard time understanding that.
Now that everything is out for Y I'm going back in. Does mission select just let you choose the DLC missions immediately or is there something that I have to do since I've already beaten the base game?
>>23976246>She doesn't know about clothed smutLaughing at you. But again, Watanabe. The man draws his girls like he WANTS them sexualized, and I say let him go all the way.
>>23976248DLC is by chapter, and the final one is a separate campaign.
>>23976248The only requirement is clearing the "free trial" mission each dlc has, then you can immediately play the dlc stages afterwardPost game doesn't matter, all dlcs start from chapter 2. The Anniversary one is the only exception
>>23976224I wish he would for my sake.
Save Last Origin.....Wataru Watanabe
I'm halfway through DLC1So this is the power of being able to choose their own roster.
Does the choice during the final map in the anni expansion do anything?
>>23975522Both me.
>>23976340usual choice since Z2 to fight the boss at max level or not. since the max level is 200 i really don't recommend that.
>>23975228Yeah.
>>23976267Can't save Last Origin.
>>23975886Of course he is.
>>23972343Meh, no Guy-niichan.
>>23972343We need Viral and Guy in the same game
>>23972272I hope so too.
>>23972276I want the slampigs.
>>23976183Mommy.
since I never usually show full animation during support def/atk, does support def put the supporter in "defend" stance or do they just stand there stupidly?
>>23976060Yeah, like Seed Freedom, Grendizer U and Granzort.
>>23976020Danke.
Who actually had unique lines for the expansion final boss? I only noticed ones for Hayate and Suletta.
>>23976212Next mobile and mainline games.
>>23976380Yes, support defenders do the guard animation.
>>23976376Very well friend.
>>23976386I haven't gotten there yet, but characters who are confirmed to have new lines for the Anni Expansion are Crowe, Lelouch, Heero, the Witch from Mercury crew, Izuru, Daba, Sho, Akira, Hyoma, Dynazenon crew... so you probably should check those.
>>23976386>>23976398Noir Ryoma too
>>23976396There we go.
>>23976368We know, Shrimpy.
>>23976415Shrimpy lusts over Mamoru.
>>23976085That dude really trying to be IRL Wufei.
>>23976416I thought he lusted for both of them. But he hates Hakai-Oh Mamoru.
>>23976433He's a shotacon.
>>23975555I don't believe you.
>>23972427Fuck Crowe.
>>23975759Wufei is the resident shitposter this whole time.
>they gave the expansion's final boss an End of the Galaxy/Supreme God of Death's Light attack>but weirdly sexually chargedUhh.
>>23976060If DD is in its final chapters, it probably won't be getting to Geass Roze since it only just got to Re;surrection.Roze is pretty much guaranteed next game
>>23976454>If DD is in its final chaptersGGG stuck in its TV series content.
>Those Jeeg animationsWhat the fuck? You're telling they could have always animated these 3D sprites like this?
>characters make references to the plot of the DLC episodes in the anni expansion>doesn't actually address any of it.Unless I missed something, do we ever see the cat again or get confirmation that Googolplex was the one who gave Usurper a copy of SRWZ?
>>23976456eureka's surfboard zaku is fantastic but why should i care about that piece of shit movie
>>23975804To fuck with you.
>>23976467After decades of every standalone SRW ending with loose ends, I think they just love that kind of conclusion. Not necessarily because they have more to tell.
>>23976200The dog is evil,
>>23976132When does he ever not have a meltdown?
>>23976476https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55ArHjeR1c
>>23976395does this mean the bonuses that trigger when a character is in defend gets triggered?
>>23975840Suletta, the fem Shinji.
>>23976467Nope. I think it's pretty clear they changed ideas for whatever they were doing with the story between the base game/DLC1 and the Anniversary Expansion. Just look at Spero in DLC 1 saying the golems are completely unrelated to Al-Warth and just look similar to them treating the Warth Dumbells in the Expansion as actually the real deal.
>>23976151He's a lot of things.
>>23976444The Creampie Special
>>23975552...No.
>>23976491Generally yes but I dunno if there's any weird exceptions with specific ace bonuses or shit like that they forgot to code correctly
>>23975552They can't sell DLC series' in linear SRW so nope never not happening outside of remasters.
>>23976505They can though, easily
>>23976505given that DLC series are effectively just units only filler, there's no reason they can't just shove them in anywhere they want. No changing of structure required.
>>23976505>>23976507and also they have before
Instead of DLC they might as well just go back to doing two-part games
>>23976505Did you newfags only play 30? The games have DLC missions since Z3.
>>23976532They're never going back to multi-game works again due to Z3's failure.
Sworgrader in a future console game after end of DD.
https://twitter.com/sunriseworld_pr/status/2086286355655495693Sally's birthday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL4UxTvnPPY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-wGHSH1ZpE
>>23976441Gladly
>>23972414Because it's Macross.
>>23976533And how many DLC series and new DLC units did Z3 have?
>>23976535What if Buriki Daioh shows up in the next game too.
>>23976550It'll be the best surprise console debut in a long while that's for sure.
>>239765450, but VXT which are just Z3 clones have preorder dlc units
Edge and Az as DLC or pre purchase units for the next non-remaster console game for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZOhVz4BaLE
>>23976555>Non-remasternah. I want to have both Edge and Crowe in Z2R. It'll be funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKq-PQ-Mlw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfLh6uyFsgU
>unironically using the word femanon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxEYGIAPQiE
>>23976456Yes.
>>23976557>1 Stage OnlyGetting fucking tired of this shit
>>23976532>>23976534I mean, they are quite literally doing that by saying Z2R is next game
>>23976456Only with the special one animating
>>23976567This is genuinely one of the cooler final bosses we've had in a long time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2akbf6bJ_ag
>>23976584I have to admit I only recognize Arios/Crossbone guy usually
>>23976587The Jeeg guy is so special we don't even know him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHFuSixIgR4
>>23976550Pacman will show up in the next game.
>>23976587why do you always say crossbone specifically when that animator did exia/00 first, literally in the same game as arios
>>23975376>>23975359/ourqueen/.
>>23972461Sasuga.
>>23975785Oh yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhcvoZzO1Y
>>23976582Get ready for even more of this.
>>23976195This.
>>23972256The red heroes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTQU1fzLeUk
>>23976582>1 Stage Only>Getting fucking tired of this shitBut OG did that all the time and people love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMj5OmeuouA
Next Thread>>23976634>>23976634>>23976634
So doing a fresh file on master for the anniversary pack or whatever. Can I just not get this fucker on master difficulty? Suletta doesn't join yet in-between the stages, so I can't upgrade her or equip her with parts to make things work. Even though the conditions is to "defeat him by turn 6" you only have 3 real turns to do any damage because of plot. Is the dream dead? Kind of a bummer since they gave him his new suit in the dlc.
>>23976635Danke
>>23972256The best combo.
https://twitter.com/mdrkw_hikaru/status/2086090077277741427
https://twitter.com/geass_survivor/status/2060285024784765292
>>23975991Baikanfu and Aqua's Garmraid being immortal was really funny in MX.
>>23976079>>23976085I have a feeling it's just another Euzeth account larping as a girl.
>>23974586>right-hand centerWow. I'd actually forgotten Cagali EXISTED in Y.
>>23976001That said - SPEAK is absolutely more kino than REJECT, because Valbelm becomes the final boss and because he reveals it was all a Gendou Ikari iter 'just as planned' where he was betting on Yz-Next to destroy him, with no regrets left, so he could suck the Evolvers bound to his will down into the grave with him. He and Negsis were literally planning a double-down on the Zero Requiem all along.
>>23976604Nah.
>>23977341Not all SRWs are K.