Two Godzillas next movie.
Nah the last one fucking sucked
https://youtu.be/x89Sr6ZyZck
>>24069259The American gi gangbang scebe really DIDNT need those full penetration shots
>>24069275it was needed
>>24069275hello saar
>>24069275I loved how The Marines getting ready to raid Murakami's place looked like they were getting ready to storm Tarawa.
One thing I noticed, and maybe overthinking I am overthinking a connection here:>Ghidorah has one head>Koichi gets involved to stop him>Ghidorah gets two new heads>plan now involves Koichi and Noriko, with them bringing Akiko along to flee>Ghidorah looses a head during the final fight, then regains it last minute>Koichi and Norito involved, and you think they'll leave Akiko behind, until the last minuteKind of neat if intentional.
>>24069293気をつけて行ってらっしゃい Gojira
Noriko's turning into Gaira from the G cells.>Aquatic creature>vaguely humanoid>Scaly.>Regenerative powers
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>>24069306The mutations make her hotter
So when Koichi fucks Noriko he is basically fucking (a) Godzilla right?
How much monster stuff is there screen time wise? Or is this just going to be sad Japanese losers again like Minus One?
>>24069362I'd say there's more monster and less focus on human drama, but the main monster of the movie is Ghidorah, so if you wish is specifically "more Godzilla" it does not really do that. Big G himself is only really in two sequences, and one of those is a dream.
>>24069374That's fine with me. I just want monsters, don't got to be just GodzillaGood to hear about the less human part. That was the worst part of Minus One to me and I don't understand how Americans of all people would think that part was good.
>>24069377I thought society moved on from the "monster good human boring" schtick but clearly not
>>24069380We did move on from it with Hedorah and Biollante and Shin, but we are back to either caricatures in MonsterVerse or muh glorious nippon bonzai samurai spirit shit in Japan.
>>24069386>Godzilla is either MCU faggotry or "nippon banzai" with no in-between Grim.
>>24069377Don't get me wrong there's still a lot of human, it's just not a characters personal story this time.As in -1 was specifically about Shikishima, in -0 he's still the lead but his story remains complete other than "Shikishima and Noriko are torn about the possibility of orphaning their kid" other than that it's more of a more ensemble thing where most time is spent on figuring out how to deal with Ghidorah
>>24069406Thanks anon. That is more or less what I want, so guess I'll get a ticket tomorrow
>>24069374Spoilers dickwad!?The New York sequence is indeed just a cocktease dream like in Always 2 and got dicktease on the teaser as if it had a significance in the plotThanks for getting my hopes up, assholes.
>want to go see this>hate driving 35min in shitty traffic and spending $20 (Dbox seats) >just plain hate going out and mingling with the ignorant masses outside my shitty job where I have to tooMaybe I'll just wait a year for toho to release it on bluray stateside...
>>24069437make a blog
>>24069437No go have some fun anon, let the positives outweigh the negatives, maybe there are cheaper theaters or times in your area, or you bring in liquor.On my viewing of Brand New Day I brought a bottle of Don Julio, which leads to me being a poor movie goer by laughing at scenes, but have fun bro
>>24069437Just grow some balls and go see it nigga, it's not that serious.
I got the giant popcorn bucket
>>24069476The Regal one looks pretty cool with the water top. Are there two AMC ones? I saw people with the big one and people with the Ghidora and Godzilla one.
>>24069437>i dont want to watch a giant monster on a giant screenhuh?
>>24069482the amc one is fucking shit>dont know what KG looks like>if people didnt watch the trailers theyre going to look at the display and see king ghidorah is in the fuckin bucket and what he looks like>the bucket is just a plain black bucket with 2 action figures gluded to itit fucking sucks on so many levels
>>24069485i should say i generally know what king ghidorah looks like, but not this iteration going in, so its the little things that are just what the fuck
>>24069485Doesn't AMC have a big one that fills up in the back or whatever?
>>24069437You can try going during a less busy time like in the morning or afternoon. There is zero socializing required going to the movie theater except for the ticket booth. Go have fun anon!
>>24069431For what it's worth that doesn't at all take anything away from the scene
>>24069482I got the massive one that is literally just a Godzilla statue and the cool atomic breath cup. Neither are very good that what they're supposed to do but they look awesome. Funnily enough I don't have an AMC or Regal anywhere near me, my local theater was just selling them for some reason.
>>24069509Nice.
Some of the imagery in this movie is going to stick with me for awhile. Obviously we all saw the baby scene in the trailer, which is even more effective in the film because of the sound design. But the scene that straight up shows the direct aftermath of Hiroshima was extremely effective at showing just how horrible that event was and genuinely made me feel uncomfortable. The hospital scene was phenomenal too.
I got stupid lucky last night. I went to the 11pm showing last night and it was empty (except one other person there). I have no idea why because the movie theater closest to it was nearly full. Other midnight showings had packed theaters there. I wanted to see more Godzilla fans and show off my MechaniKong shirt, but it was also nice being quiet.>>24069476I got the basic tin one that says Godzilla Minus One around it. I didn't know they actually fill it up with popcorn. I thought you had to pay for the popcorn separately, as stupid as that sounds.
>>24069517Imax format is used so often to show off things like sweeping vista shots or FX action spectacles (which happens in this too of course) that it's honestly a bit of a push back in your seat a little moment when this uses it to go large for some pretty harrowing shit
Actually cried that he died. Actually surprised the Professor was captured.
Ghidorah has some of the coolest fucking shots I've ever seen. I REALLY like this version of him.
>>24069521>it was empty (except one other person there)I had a similar experience, I went with my sister and I saw that it was just the two of us so I spent the entire movie giving her nerd details and screaming and chanting whenever something happenedthe credits end and all the lights turn bright, I turn around and there was a single dude sitting a few rows back
>>24069517You know that reminds me I have thought over the years that I should upload the pictures I have that my grandfather took at Nakasaki. Him and his shipmates were among the first on the ground and he smuggled a camera with him (as did others I am sure). It always stayed with me what he had told me when I was a child "They told us to expect anything because they had no idea what to expect.You know what we found? ZILCH! ZERO! NADA! VUOTA! NIENTE! It was all demolished and smouldering." Please forgive the tl;dr and yes I am an ancientfag.
>>24069535spooky shit
>reading the Godzilla 1994 script summaryHoly shit, they did it.
>>24069259did Shikishima fuck her yet
>>24069221>It won't fit this timeline.He doesn't have to be an alien. Pollution + Some anti-pollution clean up chemicals or something + Absorbs a shitload of sea life DNA including Godzilla = Boom new Hedorah.
I think a pollution themed monster works find as Japan reindustrializes. There was a reason the first Hedorah movie was made in the first place.You could even set it in the 1960's or 70's with the kid all grown up and make everything work out thematically.>first movie, Japan is at rock bottom>second movie, Japan is recovering but caught in the cold war>third movie, Japan has fully recovered, is doing better than ever, but oh no Hedorah
>>24069573They've been married for like two years man
>>24069211>I mean, hell, give a new monster a go. What haven't they done at this point. Giant octopus?Literally the third movie, anon.
>>24069579Yes but I learned from my doujins that married Japanese couples only have enough sex to have one or two children and then stop. Ergo they have never had sex or else they would have their own children and the husband would work overseas permanently or for many months out of the year.
Just saw an imax screening, surrounded by actual autists stimming and making noises.It was pretty good. There was no way they were going to top Minus One, and they don't, but it's still one of the best Godzilla movies. The monster scenes are great, and the visuals of victims and hospitals were effective, but the movie kind of unravels after the first half. I don't think character development is nearly as strong as before, especially the mad scientist (yeesh), and there's a lot more oscar-bait over-acting when the plot doesn't really call for it. Some of the vfx weren't really convincing, either. There was way more of it, and it made the movie look a bit cheaper for it.It's like an undercooked Minus One, but it was still a great movie. I just hope they don't do a Plus One, because it will probably legitimately suck with the trajectory the plot is going.What happened to Tachibana after Plan B? Did he die and I missed it? He just disappeared from the movie.I thought he was in the bomber?
>>24069596Tachibana's not in the movie at all. I know, I thought that one guy near the start may have been him, but it wasn't. I was legitimately surprised he wasn't in it, and by how Kid and Captain only had what were basically cameos.
>>24069596Why the fuck would an 62EXH fly?
>>24069596>surrounded by actual autists stimming and making noises.lol this reminds me that at my screening I was sitting next to a small lady who was REALLY going through it, like every jump scare and horrific moment was making her jump like she'd just taken a bullet, honestly kinda charming
>>24069601Really? I could have sworn that was him. He's listed on imdb, too
>>24069487doesnt really matter if the ceiling and walls reflect light like a motherfucker and if the acoustics are so bad all the dialogue is incomprehensibly echoey
>>24069604Really? Unless maybe they recast him or something... I watched Minus One right before going in and seeing the movie. It definitely wasn't the same actor, at least.
>>24069604I was wondering if he originally had a small/cameo role but ended up being cut, because I remember casting lists having him on them
>>24069596i had an ENTIRE FUCKING ROW of people talking and watching tiktok in front of me when i went an hour ago
>>24069614So? Mind your own business.
>>24069606I am not really (or at all) an audiofag. I grew up in the HC scene so I was used to sound bouncing off of walls. But a few times at different theaters I was Like "really" when sound was cranked up for like a really off the wall scene or soundtrack/score that meant nothing.
>>24069615they made it my business when they're audibly discussing their lives at normal speaking level and holding up brightly glowing objects in front of the screen the whole time
>>24069618Don't watch it in theaters if you can't deal with other people, autist.They paid for their ticket, they can do what they want.
>>24069579Seeing how Noriko only revealed the Godzilla skin on her back in Minus Zero, I don't think both ever seeing each other naked. But I remember Shikishima almost raped her in Minus One when he got the PTSD again.
>>24069620>Yeah, sure, people paid for their ticket to that play, they can hop up on stage and grope the main actress if they want, it's whatever.Scum like you are how we got Chicken Jockey.
>>24069596Just saw an imax screening, surrounded by actual autists stimming and making noises.That happened to me at Shin Ultraman a few years ago. I mean whatever, if they're having a good time processing it through stimming, then I understand. Whatever.
>>24069625>people are having a great time in theaters with their friends, unlike me who has no friends and instead demands a dark quiet theater devoid of lifeYou live a sad existence.
I hope we weren't supposed to feel bad for Godzilla getting beat up during and after the fight. That bastard is immortal and deserved more, which is a weird feeling because I think Ghidorah actually killed a lot more people this movie, but they only showed the aftermaths in small towns. >>24069617I don't know if it was the imax screen's sound system sucking or intentionally maxing out the volume, but the roars in my screening were so loud they were almost distorted. I could barely make out Godzilla's roar and I couldn't tell you what King Ghidorah sounded like.
/tv/ please go. /m/ is a no singles board please understand
>>24069629Another /m/an said it is theater by theater. I remember seeing Scarlet at IMAX and was like HOLY FUCK and seeing Tenki no Ko and a few others and was like WTF.
>>24069629I always assumed the roars were intentionally mixed by the sound designers to give that clipping/harmonic distortion effect like the Jurassic Park T. Rex on steroids but I dunno
Would the human characters have felt bad for Ghidorah if they got their ass beat like how they were for feeling sorry for Godzilla
>>24069629My memory on this is that the casualty numbers in this are actually much lower - I remember the various attacks being mentioned in the low thousands. Nothing matches the 30,000+ dead in Ginza, which seems to be emphasized by the return to Ginza showing it's completely barren and dead with no rebuild having taken place.
So who would be the second kaiju in a hypothetical third movie? I think Biollante could work.
>>24069648Rodan + Mothra, or American MechaGodzilla piloted by the ace Jet JaguarHonestly doing a space alien so soon makes anything else kind of a letdown
Will the final movie simply be titled "Godzilla"?
>>24069652I was going to say Mechagodzilla but I feel like he wouldn't fit well in the time period, there would need to be a time jump. Mothra would also be great, I think this universe needs a proper benevolent Kaiju to make things less horrible.
>>24069648Anguirus
My picks would be>GiganWe haven't seen him in a hot minute and I'd like to introduce aliens in a serious context. The franchise has long been associated with camp aliens, let's see some modern realistic ones.>BiollanteAmericans experiment with G-Cells or something.>Anguirus To me, he's always been Godzilla's friend. Has been in desperate need of a revamp since the Showa era and this is the time to do it.>HedorahHe's cool and relevant to the Cold War era.What I absolutely do not want to see>MechagodzillaI do like him, but he's way overused (more than Ghidorah) and yeah does not fit the time period or the tone. There's nothing particularly special about Godzilla's shape, he's just a big lizard, everything powerful about him is in his G-Cells and nuclear energy. Thus a Mechagodzilla, while cool in a camp context, is stupid in a serious context.>Space GodzillaWould basically be the same plot as Minus Zero, but with crystals.>MothraHottake: but Mothra cannot carry movies. I do like the design, I like the twins, I like Infant Island (totally not Skull Island guys), but Mothra is just a big bug and is as interesting as any of the other insect/shrimp kaiju when you get right down to it.If Mothra is included, she'd need a major reimagining. I don't even think Legendary got it right.>RodanI like him, just as much as I like Anguirus, but I got my fill of him from Legendary.>DestoyahI would love to see him, but without the Oxygen Destroyer proper then he doesn't belong in the Minus setting.I want something we haven't seen in a while, ultimately.
>>24069659I think Yamazaki should go back to the original plan for GMK and have Anguirus, Varan and Baragon be the guardian monsters.
DEATH TO AMERICA!
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>>24069661>Hottake: but Mothra cannot carry movies.From the original movie to roughly... Final Wars, I think. Someone correct me if I'm wrong... the two most financially successful movies were King Kong vs. Godzilla and Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992). The reason Toho kept adding her to Millennium movies was because she brought in the bucks.
>>24069670What makes Mothra movies work are everything else the original movie brought to the table - the Twins, Infant Island as an irradiated lost world, mystique of polynesian culture, and the interaction with those elements with the modern world. Mothra is a defender of Infant Island, and is in a sense like a guardian version of King Kong.But what makes Mothra not work is the concept and powerset. It's a big moth. Its wings kick up gusts that knock down buildings, its larva form sprays web, it sometimes is able to spray reflective powder. None of this is impressive, none of this can carry a plot.Is Mothra popular? Yes, obviously, no debate. Were the original movies profitable? Yes. Were they good movies? I'd say so.Would a modern Mothra work in the context of the Minus setting? No.
>>24069648||Wondering if it's going to be a Soviet-built Mechagodzilla vs. Godzilla being manipulated by the U.S. but then it goes haywire and Shikishima has to fix a bunch of bullshit again||
>>24069671While I don't want godzilla movies to just regress to godzill/mothra/ghidorah repeated again and again till the heat death of the universe I do think that after this and the previous movie having a monster that's just.... good would be an interesting emotional twist. Not only good but generally wants to protect humanity feels like a natural progression.We go from a walking nuke, to using godzilla as a weapon against another monster, to an actual monster that's just "hey humans how you doing, need some help?" seems like the right direction and I only wish mothra wasn't like the only choice we have there. That or mechs/full blown aliens and I don't think any of that would be natural in this setting yet.
>>24069679Just realized I spoiler tagged that wrong, fuck whatever I'm going through a mini stomach bug right now it can't be helped
>>24069679>Shikishima, you're a pilot! A damn good pilot! That means you know how to reprogram giant robot Godzillas built by Russia!
>>24069687[i was trained for it during the war]
>>24069687I'm just imagining him trying to do some MGS3-esque shit where he has to sabotage it with c-3 to destroy its feet but it still deploys and launches into an epic motorcycle chase scene anyways
>>24069688He went to Odo Island in the first movie to receive his Mechagodzilla training, but never got around to it since Godzilla showed up and killed everyone else.
>>24069692WHAT I LEARNED IN MECHAGODZILLA TRAINING IS
Music wasn't as good and I hated that I couldnt tell if ghidorah was beat. They should have had another melee at the end once godzilla woke up. it was still fucking cool though. but yea I wish it showed ghidorah getting vaporized or something, I was like "is that it?" I just got more of minus one, and thats ok.
>>24069679Considering the damage to Godzilla the director likes to cause, I'd say Hedorah.
>>24069697I do wonder that, fits the themes of reindustrialization in post-war Japan. Wonder if there'll be an allegory or reference to the Four Big Pollution Diseases like Itai-Itai or Minamata Disease in it
A further jump ahead similar to the few years between One and Zero would have to put things in the territory of when the JSDF is established wouldn't it?Remilitarization is pretty ripe material.
As soon as it cut to the flashback of the aftermath of the bomb, I thought "Welp! There's why it's rated R." Then it showed the charred corpses and I was all "Holy shit! There's why it's rated R, even more so." Then the hospital scene, then Godzilla and Ghidorah tearing into each other during the final fight... Goddamn, Yamazaki.
>>24069701Funnily enough it got a G rating in Japan. There's a bunch of other countries where it didn't get an R rating either. I think it works as a very hard PG-13 or soft R.
>>24069700There's an argument to be made that already in Minus One and Zero, the JSDF will be in a stronger position than they were historically due to the US giving back various captured equipment. Has the potential to restart the Japanese arms industry early.
What's the plan? Let them fight, of course!
thought the story was much better then minus one although i wish the godzilla vs ghidorah fight was longer.. great film though far more brutal then shin which really suprised me. i really liked seeing the human cost of the attacks
>new toho film release>everyone immediately asks why the monsterverse can't be like the japanese moviestotal cultural victory
>>24069725It's a rhetorical question, we know (((why))).
>>24069624>But I remember Shikishima almost raped her in Minus One when he got the PTSD again.The Hug? really nigga?That being said that one was one of the few bad parts of Minus One, because, remember how Noriko said she wasnt a prostitute? its like there was supposed to be a plot point about how she doesnt want to be hug and sees man as a treat or something, at first she doesnt trust Shikishima, and we know that the movie had to be picky about what scenes could been shot considering their tiny budget, i read that there was a final version of Minus one with 10 extra minutes of footage but i dont know if it was real or just a shitty made up mistranslation, its possible that there was supposed to be more character development for Noriko, why would she treat shikishima as a pervert or something, unless she had something else goin with the way she reacted, Like a rape or legit sexual assault or somethingand having all that implication brushed off with an awkward happy moment montage aftwerwards, i am sorry but that was just stupid and kinda bad, its the ''off-screen'' lazy route.Even the old lady, the way she was touching him at the end, was she trying to hit him in rage or something, or was she blind or something?, i will admit, this are the ''awkward takashi yamazaki'' parts that didnt work for me in minus one, even if they tried to pay off with she huggin him later, but why didnt she express regret or realized ''what i have done'' during the infamous ''push out'' scene?Does Minus Zero had any stupidity like that? just askingI still like Minus One but it wasnt a perfect 10/10, its not one of ''those modern movies'' thats only good the first watch and then gets a lot worse on rewatch tough.
>>24069725monsterverse hate is overated new empire was great
>>24069764I'm confused with what you mean. And what is the source for the 10 extra minutes cut?The whole 'why don't you prostitute yourself hurr durr' comment from Koichi early on was because he was thinking only in survival mode. He didn't WANT her to do that, it was more like a 'doing this will get lots of money for Akiko, therefore why not?'. And him attacking her was because he had PTSD, there wasn't anything sexual behind it. He was fighting to keep sane so he went to her for comfort yet thought she wasn't real. Your mind gets all out of wack in that moment.I also don't know what you mean about the old lady. Do you mean his neighbor? If so, why do you think she was blind?And no, there's nothing weird in Minus Zero. There are three fairly darker moments in the movie. Without spoiling them: Two are flashbacks, and another is a person imagining something. Its darker than Minus One imo.
>>24069764>Even the old lady, the way she was touching him at the end, was she trying to hit him in rage or something, or was she blind or something?She was smacking him out of "You were going to kill yourself?! The woman who is basically your wife is still alive! Not to mention your daughter! You fucking idiot!">Does Minus Zero had any stupidity like that?What, you mean the stupidity of audience members not understanding basic human emotion?>>24069773>Do you mean his neighbor? If so, why do you think she was blind?Because at the end when she shows up with Akiko, she gives him those weak, emotionally distraught smacks. Apparently other anon wanted her to pull back and give Shikishima a full-on Falcon Punch or something.
>>24069431>>24069507How the hell would Godzilla even get to New York? Wading through the Panama canal while the sluice operators patiently lets the giant monstrosity through?I get that a more plausible target like San Francisco or Los Angeles probably don't have anything as iconic as the Statue of Liberty for Godzilla to immediately destroy but still.
>>24069306Keep her away from Jedi younglings
>>24069596They'll do Plus because a "+" can represent Mothra's symbol
>>24069663I know this sounds dumb because it is, but: the movie felt really anime in a way. This guy's glasses constantly getting that 'white-out' reflection, the chuunibyou eyepatch concealing a dangerous power thing, it was great.
>>24069765I still need to watch the Kong movies.
Oh yeah the way they fucking tease the jet-powered shinden in that one shot and it never comes back
I appreciated that both Monsterverse and Minus Zero not shy away with King Ghidorah alien roots. Also why they made San suffering in Minus Zero?
>>24069804There's so many third part hooks.
>>24069764>The Hug? really nigga?She was resisting, maybe not rape but he definitely almost hurt her.
>>24069764>was she blind or somethingIt's amazing how americans need everything spelled out for them or they come up with the weirdest shit in their minds
There were so few monster scenes that the guy next to me was literally snoring in deep sleep. That's how boring this movie was. Also, they never even show what happened to Ghidorah after he got blasted lolwtf
>>24069869If that was in Temecula then that was me. I was just about to post how much I hated this movie. Embarrassment to the craft that went into the old Godzilla movies. Hope you abject fucking morons enjoyed your AI looking computer generated slop, complete with crying child and hollow anime characters. Fuck this retarded movie, fuck “intellectual property” and fuck each and every single one of you. What an embarrassment you faggots are.
>>24069902Okay commie.
>>24069903What a retarded, asinine reply. Are you 12 years old? Probably, since you enjoyed this video game cutscene tied together with nipponese soap opera meandering bullshit. Kill yourself ASAP.
>>24069906Well, it IS a japanese movie, what would if have if not Nipponese drama? Amerilard goyslop woke crap? Nah keep that shit in the monsterverse for the retards like you.
>>24069908Monsterverse is shit too, dipshit. Shit writing is shit writing. Almost all the old Godzilla movies had shit writing too, but they were couched in a self-aware tone and a tradition of stylish practical effects. Now we get disgusting CGI that looks like it’s from 20 years ago, with digital camera movement and particle effects to try and cover it up. It looks like ass, and the American MV equivalent looks like higher production ass. Godzilla 2014 was the last good American Godzilla movie, and that was purely because of Gareth Edwards ability to blend CGI and practical sets in a way that actually looked decent. Shin Godzilla is good because the script isn’t razor thin and the effects are heavily stylized, even when they’re low budget and crappy. This, and -1 to a less extent, look like uninspired Marvel movies more than anything else. But whatever, you faggots will eat up anything that has your favorite IP in it, even if it’s completely unrecognizable from the art that portrayed it before. Fuck you.
Didn't read lol.
>>24069917Yeah the phone videos have fried your attention span, that’s why you enjoy CGI WWE matches between IP you recognize. Truly, hope you die.
>getting this worked up because people prefer this over monsterverse shit
>>24069352Luckyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>24069922>>24069916Shutt he fuck up, you smelly chudcel.
>>24069275kek
>>24069928>>24069941You guys have to be like 15 if your brain is this rotted. It’s all shit, there hasn’t been a good Godzilla film in a decade. Learn to read, or go back to watching dumbass videos on your phones instead of thinking at all. You’re polluting the entire human consciousness by posting your retardation online.
>>24069958Agreed my fellow rocket surgeon.
Are there cool planes in the new movie? The shinden was sick as hell.
>>24069970big ass plane
G-cell infected Noriko can get it
>>24069970My dad had a model kit of the Shinden when I was a kid, I was fascinated by it's design, so I kind of nerded out in the theater when it was revealed in Minus One.
>>24069940I am surprised they made a suitmation of this Godzilla design, but how differs from the CGI model?
>>24069970The H8K which is a big ass boat plane which I'm a big personal fan of. There are also some American planes that I'm blanking on the name of that are cool as well. It's arguably got more plane kino in it than the last movie
I might just be imagining, but cutting off the Kevin head in the fight and Noda's scene with the overturned jeep and fiery death seemed like a direct reference to KOTM
>>24070073I thought the same thing. The only thing missing was Noda saying "Long live the King."
Aki-chan crying was louder than goji roaring
It was alright, a step down from minus one. Still, this movie is basically King of The Monsters but better in every way.
>>24069575>He doesn't have to be an alienThat's not what I meant, Hedorah doesn't fit until they reach at least the 70s.
>>24070157I'd put them in the same spot in terms of enjoyability for different reasons. I think it's definitely in the top 5 despite not living up to the previous movie
>>24069765I am hesitant to express how much I love Godzilla vs Kong because there seems to be a lot of people online crapping on it and Monsterverse in general. I hate when people weaponize the movies like Minus Zero as a way to give the middle finger to Hollywood. Like cool yeah I have problems with modern Hollywood movies too, but this should be a movie-by-movie basis not a HOLYWOOD IS FINISHED, GODZILLA MINUS ONE BUDGET OF 500 DOLLARS?!?!? clickbait crap being the discussion here instead of how each movie is.For example, I love Godzilla vs Kong but really dont like KotM. I would have loved New Empire if they made a couple changes here and there. Seriously loved all the Kong parts in it- I hope Kong is as expressive as he was in future movies too. Love Godzilla Minus One and Zero, although they both have their flaws too.It is a good time for Godzilla content. I was playing the DAMM remaster last night thinking about how kid me loved Godzilla and wanted to watch the movies and see new ones. Kid me would have lost their mind knowing what we got in the future. We have been eating so good these past 10 or so years its insane.
>>24070181>not a HOLYWOOD IS FINISHED, GODZILLA MINUS ONE BUDGET OF 500 DOLLARS?!?!?oh but it absolutely, 100% is exactly that, when you get shit like the monsterverse overspending on stupid shit and adding random characters nobody cares about, what do you expect people to think? the movies look okay, the characters are all shit, the plot is serviceable as a monster film but doesn't tell an interesting storyand then japan makes a good movie with a fraction of the budget, not just a good godzilla or kaiju movie, a good movie, period, so the hollywood façade starts to fade out and you start wondering what the fuck happened to big movie studios that they can't make a single good film to save their lives?
>>24070187It is annoying to me that it overshadows the discussion sometimes and sensationalizes something that is already clear: you can make a good movie with a low budget. That is what the take away is. It isn't that Godzilla Minus One is a good movie and why it is, it goes down the rabbit hole of why Hollywood is bad. Like yes, of course you can spend $500 million on a movie and it be bad, yes of course, I don't know why that isn't obvious. I find some of the Monsterverse movies good and I've liked Shin and the Minus moives. I haven't seen the anime movies yet because I'm hesitant to. Regardless, I guess my main gripe is the discussion becomes about something obvious and more negative than celebrating a good movie if that makes any sense. I'm not saying we can't criticize movies either, just that I'd rather it be 'yay a great Godzilla movie! hooray!' instead of 'uggh, see why can't Hollywood GET IT?!' and it usually leans towards the later.
Speaking of which did anyone get any good trailers? I got to see my wife Aoko running around and a trailer for the live Action version of Look Back. The other night at Irregular High I also got trailers for Rascal Does Not Dream and Madoka.
>>24069972>1/72 scaleDamn, I was really hoping it would be in 1/48 scale. They need a kit of the Shinzan also.
>>24070181>It is a good time for Godzilla content. I was playing the DAMM remaster last night thinking about how kid me loved Godzilla and wanted to watch the movies and see new ones. Kid me would have lost their mind knowing what we got in the future. We have been eating so good these past 10 or so years its insane.I'm able to live that experience through my nephew who I'm hoping to take to see it this week, I'm gonna get him that game on Switch2 for Christmas.
>>24069765I woul've liked monsterverse more if the kaiju didn't feel so lightweight.
>>24070205I went inside 10 minutes late like a normal person
>>24070205>good trailersJust the usual slop like Dune.
>>240702182014 and kotm did it well imo. 2019 was dumb, but it still felt "real". GvK totally went over and then GvK was full fucking pacific rim 2. 2019 is where the monsterverse ended for me.
>>24070265Yeah KoTM was an alright monster movie, but they had to improve on it with the sequels, not keep making everything even shittier.
>>24069648>>24069652>>24069661I am for Hedorah. With all the waste left over from WWII to the Cold war, it would lap up all that waste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease
>>24070073>>24070085More than a few things felt like a reference to the point that some parts felt like a rip off
Just got back from it. I liked it better than Minus One because Ghidorah was coolBut seriously the Japanese needs to get over this getting nuked thing. Do they really think they didn't deserve it?
Godzilla in Minus Zero felt kind of like he moved on from his anger towards humanity. He chased whales for what I assume to eat, and cut the ship in half as it was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. He didn't do anything to them as they all were left alive to report his return. He did not make any attempts to go onto land. Even after being lured to Ghidorah, he simply followed the plane rather than blowing it up. (Yes I know he was following due to the Resonance thing hooked up to Noriko). He's still territorial but not actively trying to kill people anymore. Even at the end when they fired on him. I guess he got humbled by getting blown up in the previous movie.
>>24070286Fun fact: the often repeated falsehood that there are enough nuclear weapons in the world to kill off everyone x9000 times over blah blah came from some idiotic pinko academic who used the population densities and casualties of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as models.
>>24070294Well he has a daughteru now. Parenthood changes things meng.
It was funny how many times Noda kept planting deathflags
>>24070319She's Godzooky...
>>24070294I like to think he got reset. Shikishima's war was over and so was Godzilla's. Remember he was already pissed and then he got fucking nuked. He was just pissed off. I think they also wanted to mirror him with Shikishima. But yea they should've hinted at something because now we are just left to grasp at straws. I'll just go with the theory that Noriko was keeping him calm since they established that connection. Poor G-man was fucking exhausted and then gets hit with the equivalent with paint balls kek.
Just got back from seeing Minus Zero, and while I liked it, I think the movie was trying to juggle too much with not nearly enough time on it's hands to do so. I feel like you could cut the Noda-Leader-taking-responsibility stuff, and Hell, even Koichi's general story stuff and focus way more on Hiroshima Ojisan and the general American scheming and leave with a much stronger movie I know Koichi is the protagonist of the first film and obviously a sequel would likely have the same general cast, but his involvement feels forced to try and have some sort of emotional connection to the first one
>>24070317Didn't ask.
>>24070336Now I want them to see them hanging out with speech bubbles flying around. "NORIKO HAYAKU! , DANGER LIKE DAGGER NOW!!"...... "Get bent I am going to Aki-chans dance recital"
>>24070349Told you anyway. Fgt.
>>24070343>his involvement feels forcedGo find a better pilot willing to get involved. Oh you can't? Then shut the fuck up.
>>24070350*delete that extra them
>>24070338I guess it's back to terrorizing humpback whales.
>>24070357I didn't even realize that, my brain auto corrected, you're good brother
Weather-chan was sex.
>>24070355>Go find a better pilot willing to get involvedOkay I just made one up because you can do that when making thingsNow what?
>>24070360Thank you. I was multitasking. I usually once over the text before hitting the post button.
>>24070365>Now what?Your bitching would have instead turned into "HUH? WHO IS THIS GUY? WHERE IS THE PREVIOUS GUY? THEY COULDN'T PAY HIM FOR HIS SCREENTIME? DOS THEY ADD A SHITTY SELF INSERT? BRING BACK THE PREVIOUS GUY!!".
>>24070372lol
>>24070366Don't tell me your entire life bro this ain't discord.
>>24070372>Your bitching would have instead turned intoNuh uhOkay now what?
>>24070374Shush.
>>24070361I need some Japanese pussy so bad bro
>>24069573Shikishima's entire arc on the first movie was to move on from guilt and accept life so of course they fucked
The Hiroshima scene would have been a lot more effective if they cleaned up the old man's story. Really chilling imagery, but his overacting and then snap-back to normal before anyone even found out kind of cheapened it. Either make him way less batshit or have him actually attempt something heinous and then talked out of it. Trying to retroactively make him sane again was clunky and tried too hard to pull another flashback twist like when Shikishima ejected at the last second.
>>24070398Well Noda calling him out on it and pounding on his door helped him to not want to burn more people a little bit
>>24070398Fuck off retard, it was a good character done well, stop nitpicking random shit because you were expecting another marvel tier quip filled crap.
>>24069648I want to see them come up with new original monster designs.
>>24070403Yeah, but arranging the scenes the way they did was clunky. Plus he didn't even seem to have a real plan to do anything with all that crazy in him
>>24070398He wasn't crazy though.
>>24070416>thunk>thunk>thunk>thunk>maniacal laughter
>>24069790retard-kun....
>>24069624The godzilla skin could've been something recent like 2 days before she revealed it.
>>24070430His family died brutally.
>>24070265Yeah I liked skull island so I didn't go into gvk with "monsterverse bad" mindset, it was just bad. Maybe it'll be good again once they're done with godzilla-kong stuff.
>>24070439Which drove him crazy
If Noriko got impregnated...would the fetus? You know?
>>24070439>Squidward, he's lost something near and dear to him. Haven't you->Look again.https://youtu.be/dxTHW15pHvE?si=Y7P65jCoDsq4f5Da
>>24070531>redditbob
He should've continue his vengeful plan
>>24070411>noooooo not my totally innocent family >why would the Americans do this to us we didn't deserve this waaahhhhhhA Japanese biologist during WW2 is surely justified in wanting to nuke New York in revenge right
>>24070570Wow you were actually retarded.
>>24070569I think that's the plan, he let himself got captured by the Americans and will do his plan later.
They're gonna make Noriko "controlling" Godzilla without any machine and she can just stand on top of him in the sequel huh
>>24070572I'm sorry your weeb brain cannot comprehend the giga chad American response to Pearl Harbor
>>24069648>It's time
Is Ghidorah under someone's control in this one or is he just being a 3 headed dick head?
>>24070622just being a dickhead kek
>>24070595I think Noriko won't appear in the next movie. She's dying. Also the mad scientist burned his investigation and considering he has Yamato spirit, he'll refuse to talk even under torture so the monster race will be delayed for many, many years. I think there'll be a timeskip. Also Godzilla will leave genetic material all over the planet so Noriko won't be needed anymore
>>24069233Really excited for his mech movie. The action, scale and sound design was top tier in this.
I actually liked the returning characters a lot better this time around. Shikishima and Noriko are actually tolerable Still, I hope they don't come back in the sequel. Just let them fade into the background and be at peace or something akin to it.
>>24070638>She's dying.We don't actually know this for sure. She's just assuming she's gonna die, because she thinks (and, to be fair, understandably so) having a bit of Godzilla DNA in her is probably not good. But for all we know, her mutation is as far as it's going to go, and from here on out she's immortal.
>>24070645I still think she's going to die. It adds to the bittersweet ending of enjoying the present because the future is uncertain at best. Also Yamazaki wants to try luck on Hollywood and Minus Zero was sold as the final chapter so there won't be sequels for a while.
>>24070645The doctor did say she accepted G-cell's regenerative properties or whatever didn't he?
>>24070647She'll mutate into some sort of Godzilla hybrid and Koichi will be forced to put her down
>>24070656Just leave Koichi alone. It's less cruel to let him spend his waifu's final days together. How much a man can suffer?
>>24070656Horribly after a horrific scene where she devours or heat rays Akiko before she can cry again.
>>24070660Hey man I don't make the movie. I would have preferred if Koichi and Noriko didn't come back in Minus Zero to begin with. But Yamazaki wants the holocaust comparison so we are gonna keep on kicking Koichi in the balls until you feel bad and apologize white man
>>24070671Maybe Akiko is the new MC or at least make a cameo. They could timeskip to the 70s because >>24070638
>>24070673Please noLet the weather girl be the lead. Pretty sure you might actually get chinabux if you put Nagasawa as top billing
>>24070675Nagasawa is half Chinese or something?
>>24069703I think the only reason it got a R rating was the kaiju dismemberment and scenes of americans getting hit with the equivalent of an atomic bomb
>>24070677No, they just really like her. I think her being the main female in Detective Chinatown 3 is the big thing
so did they make a deal with the US to let godzilla live in exchange for noriko? I cant tell if the Prof did that or was it the weather girl the whole time
>>24070708Retard.
>>24070708Japan wasn't and still isn't exactly in a position to "make a deal" with America, politically economically or scientifically
>>24070647>Minus Zero was sold as the final chapterI don't believe this when the movie ends with godzilla just walking away and the person who posses the tech to control godzilla being captured by americans.
>>24070708I took it as their plan changed once they realized: A) Ghidorah kicked Godzilla's ass worse than they were expecting, B) Ghidorah seems even more malignant than Godzilla, and C) Those tanks and weapons aren't going to do crap against Godzilla anyway. It would have turned it all into a blood bath with Godzilla being pissed again, versus letting him walk away with a victory and not shooting him as a 'thank you for killing The Thing for us'.
>>24070738
Cutie
>>24070783She's the one who called off the attack on Godzilla. Letting him live is a win-win.
>>24070783At least Anno didn't try to speak English in his cameo
>>24070783
>>24070788What? Anno was in this? Where? Did Ghidorah give him what he deserved?
>>24070801Nah he lives, he just appears on the train as an old man reading a newspaper when Sho and Noriko are trying to run away.
So...Mothra for the next film?
>>24070820I mean maybe, who would've expected them to actually make Ghidorah an alien in this universe.
>>24069958Sybau
>>24070712>>24070738>>24070764yea but did I fucking speed-watch because all of sudden they stop attacking him and GHQ(?) asks them wats up. So I'm confused if they stopped shooting because they realize that was probably fucking stupid or the prof and weather girl made a deal with the US about preservation
>>24070846Probably more along the lines of Sweet Mary-Anne! Imagine what this fucking thing could do to the Soviets!
>>24070846The professor burned all his stuff and was upset when captured. The weather girl told everyone to make a run for it at the end because she knew they were going to be captured as well. I don't think either of them made deals.
>>24070824If they do Mothra, chances are it would fully play into cold war tensions
>>24070846Stop shoving your face with popcorn and read the subtitles.
So G Ghidorah would have won had Godzilla not shot it faster right?
Saw it today. Was initially disappointed with Ghidorah being back cause I always found him kinda overrated but his portrayal in this was fucking awesome. The theme for him in particular is terrifying it sounds like you're witnessing the end of the world it's so god damn good.
>>24070957Maybe, but the double charged atomic breath (it's a blast at this point) looks insane
Did the US actually take part of Godzilla's remains?
>>24069437I drove over two hours to see it in IMAX
>>24069663utterly kino shot
going to see it tuesday
>>24070990Close this thread anon, it's worth seeing it unspoiled.
>>24070957I get the feeling the 3 heads might not be able to handle the atomic breath, at least to start with. Probably wouldn't win a beam struggle yet too.
Big G needs to figure out how to charge his breath faster. He already hurts himself when he fires. As soon as Ghidorah dodged the fight was essentially over.
>>24070995Yeah, I was wondering where its beams went, because there weren't any explosions. Also weird Godzilla's final beam and extra beam didn't immediately explode as usual (and then didn't kill anyone when it finally did)
>>24069344imagine the humanzilla offspring
>>24070595KAIJUALCHEMICALDRIVE
>>24070792OLs...Give me kaiju OLs...
>>24070846Aoyama told Shikishima that the orders were to preserve Godzilla and all related research and items around GodzillaThat's why she told them to run right after
>>24069648Space Anguirus
After thinking about it, I actually don't like the new Ghidorah. Or rather I feel like it was a waste. Alien lifeform that grows into a death machine by consuming, absorbing, and adapting to other life was, maybe not the most original idea, but still cool. What I don't like is they never really brought out the potential of that. Toho needing to keep to Ghidorah's classic powers and design severely limited what they could do. The only times it really mattered were when he absorbed the lightning and became King Ghidorah, and then again when he absorbed Godzilla's DNA at the end. Both of which were really cool, but ultimately the absorption trait didn't need to be necessary for the lightning power up considering Ghidorah is already lightning based kaiju. And the Godzilla DNA didn't matter much at all because he died five seconds later.Basically they wasted this ability on Ghidorah. It could have been way cooler and allowed much more freedom in the ways it evolved if it was given to a new kaiju that could adapt in unique ways without being limited by still needing to be Ghidorah. But Toho is apparently allergic to adding new kaiju.
>>24070034>There are also some American planes that I'm blanking on the name of that are cool as wellDouglas A-1 Skyraider The 4 engine bomber we see is the extremely rare G5N Shinzan.
>>24070317You're leaving out the details that the TTAPS study assumed american and soviet cities would produce as much soot as Hiroshima and Nagasaki from the firestorms of the city, leading to global cooling and a "nuclear winter".
>>24070846>GHQ(?)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Commander_for_the_Allied_PowersKinda odd that MacArthur doesn't appear at all in the movie, iirc the first one his voice is heard once during a scene announcing that the US can't or won't attempt to defend Japan from Godzilla but nothing directly in the second movie.
>>24070824One of my nitpicks in this film is why no even questioned why Ghidorah was a literal fucking wyvern dragon. We only saw it absorb a bird and deer. How does it turn into a dragon from there? I could better suspend by disbelief that the meteor carrying Ghidorah's proto jelly form, landed next to the skeleton of a prehistoric dragon reptile, and that's why it turned into a dragon, vs just turning into a dragon for literally no reason whatsoever.
>>24071080Because the meteor crashed too close to Miss Kobayashi.
>>24071036
>>24066792I got my poster laminated and now it sits with my other cool posters
>>24071080I think you blinked. it swallowed a bat too.
>>24071058>muh potentialFuck off powerscale autist.
>>24071080Dragons are aliens, it's why so many cultures have them in their history and legends.
>>24071080Deer = hornsBat = wingsBird = legsSnake = neck?You get the idea.What i want to know is where he got not only lightning powers from but especially the gravity force field because that has to be some higher power absorption either from the earth itself or human tech.
>>24071097being put into a kaiju OL's panties...
>>24069233The first scene of Godzilla emerging from the water as Ghidorah evolves is the scene of the year. Absolutely incredible stuff.
I still can't get over how good the sound design was, especially during the baby scene. There's no way this won't win an Oscar. Probably both for visual effects and sound.
>>24071171I got chills when the Godzilla theme hit. It gets me every single time. That's one of the things the monsterverse is missing. They need to use his actual theme more. Only KOTM did that and it has the best soundtrack because of it.
>>24071174I feel like an idiot, but remind me: the baby scene?
>>24071177Probably when Ghidorah lifted all the buildings for the first time and Shoichi flew by that one flying house that had a mother holding her baby on the balcony. right before Ghidorah then let it all drop and we see the house with the mother and baby go splat.
>>24071186Oh, YEAH, that scene was fucked. Gave me vibes of that one scene from the original 1954 one with the mother and child
>>24071174>There's no way this won't win an Oscar.Hollyweird won't allow it, it'll go to some holocaust or slavery oscarbait nepobaby flick.
>>24071174I don't know if it deserves one this time. It definitely tried with more drama and more cgi (Those crows looked really bad desu), but it felt like it tried too hard this time and doesn't quite come together as well as the last one. >>24071176Entrance theme is always so good. The Reptar-like version Junke XL did in the Kong movies just can't compare. Too bad the main theme only ever played for a little bit in the final battle. My screening was so loud I could barely hear it in the mix, and then it was over :(
>>24071195They already gave Minus One an Oscar. It's possible, but I fear The Odyssey will steal all of the awards.
>>24071199>Those crows looked really bad desuAh yeah the time old reliable metric for a movie's quality, its crows.
ahem... war crimes
>>24071217Yeah two nukes on civilians is pretty fucked up to say the least.
>>24071217But enough about the firebombing of Tokyo USA-AOK Aniki let's talk why not
>>24071204On this movie, he terrify actors. He locked them in room, he throw, he throw birds at them! Real birds!! Nasty stuff. The actors, they crack every day. But this movie win every award. Is Mr. Hitchcock bad man? No. He great director!
>>24071204If your last movie won an oscar for its great vfx on a shoestring budget, then some quality dips in the more ambitious sequel are probably going to affect its chances, yeah.
>Minus Goji is on his showa arc where by the 70's he'll be an unabashed hero.
Went and saw it today. Missed the first 10min due to traffic sadly. Hot take, but I think the fights between goji and Ghidorah in KOTM were way better. While the human was story was good I just didn't give two shits about it this time around. I just wanted to see Ghidorah wreck shit. I wonder if goji was weak due to just having just been regenerated or was this Ghidorah too damn strong.
well it is funny that the americans were the ones shouting down the koreans and filipinos who were mad at the first one and now when the warcrime discourse returned for the sequel it is getting blamed on the americans
>>24071243>Missed the first 10min due to traffic sadly. >I just wanted to see Ghidorah wreck shitGuess what the first 10 minutes consists of
>>24071245aye, that made me sad.
>>24071244Not sure if it was MacArthur or Eisenhower who said that if America lose the war, they were going to be called war criminals
>>24071248macarthur was physically incapable of self awareness. of course it wasn't him
>>24071080
>>24071220Where is the Kantai Iowa and Godzilla art, where is it
Ghidorah's first form is literally thishttps://wikizilla.org/wiki/Power_Dragon
>>24071296Kill yourself.
>>24071298you first
Sleeping ghidora is cute
>>24071243I'll die for KOTM but their fight also wasn't great. If we got ONE that wasnt cutting every second, it would have been the best. Minus 0 was fucking great, but it was too fucking S H O R T. They should have brawled one more time once Godzilla woke up again.
Who else thought of this when Gorjira ripped off his arm during the fight?
>>24071311I did lol
>>24071311I thought of Gamera killing Iris with a stump punch in the heisei trilogy
>>24071220nice stern
>>24071220Horny Maru was sunk in 1942 anon, she has nothing to do with firebombing.
>>24071329yes yes lemay lemay warmly ALSO MOAR BOTES IN PANTYHOSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U_f1-z_40g I was going to be fucking pissed if they ditched the kid
>>24071332>Sato’s starboard wing hit the port edge of the Hornet’s stack, ripping away the signal halyards and the starboard wing with them. Then the fuselage bounced off the island and embedded itself into the flight deck about 15 feet away, where the burning wreck exploded, spewing flaming gasoline on the signal bridge, the island, the flight deck, and into the ready room for Scouting 8 one deck below. All, ironically, without its 250kg bomb exploding. It ended up “rolling around outside the ready room.”>Lieutenant Commander Dodson, on the signal bridge to “settle” the young signalmen there, was protected from the spewing fuel by a leg of the mainmast, but his charges were not. They were incinerated by burning aviation gasoline. Dodson tried to beat out the flames with his gloves, only to have to ditch the gloves when they themselves caught fire. He could just stand in horror and watch his men thrash in agony, hearing their howls of unimaginable pain, until, one by one, the writhing and screaming stopped. One uninjured signalman, frantic with sorrow as he watched his twin brother burn to death in a pool of flaming gasoline, rushed into his brother’s arms to die together “locked in a final embrace.”
>>24071296It looks more like Spyro given the purple scales
>>24071313>>24071320Ghidorah is basically Cell. One head - Imperfect Cell, 3 head - Perfect Cell, G cell Ghidorah - Super Perfect Cell.
>>24071338:/
>>24071344lol
>>24071347>>24071347>>24071347
WAKE UP GODZILLA!!!!!!!!!!!
>>24071345SEX
>>24071320same, Gamera. I wish the movie had the balls to keep the damage instead of just regenerating.
>>24071275Why would Ghidorah metamorphose bat wings when superior bird wings should also be part of it?
>>24071379botesex albeit or something
>>24071926Perfection.
>>24072149
>>24070205Only Dune Part Three.The other trailers they showed were all for kids' movies that weren't that interesting.Because the film was only rated PG in the Philippines.I guess Gatto is the most interesting of the kids' movie trailers, or Shrek 5.My showing of La La Land was similar, only showing trailers for kids' movies except for the new Hunger Games because the film was rated PG.
>>24071233This was literally me driving home with the AMC Godzilla.
