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Sea Shanty Edition

Previous thread: >>42367926
/ourlobby/: Leaf (rip)

Console release is here! (Nintendo Switch, Sony Playstation 4 and Playstation 5, Microsoft Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S)
[YouTube] Them's Fightin' Herds - Console Launch Trailer (embed)
========= Events =========
Check the thread for possible events
========================

>Steam page: http://store.steampowered.com/app/574980/Thems_Fightin_Herds/
>Patch Notes: http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=574980
>Notation and Input Primer: https://forums.themsfightinherds.com/index.php?threads/785/
>Fighting Game Beginner's Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lKYmLqfbLibXy0LAwatZLw8yojaB8xVkGysOgZnm2uI/
>Mizuumi Wiki:
https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Them's_Fightin'_Herds

>1.0 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEBOSUOLTXM
>Shanty trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiw3kMTAVFo
>3.0 trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEsG0DYF1yo
>Texas reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSM20gOntLM
>Texas trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZnTSwOLgo
>Stronghoof reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ6d1NSF5UI
>Nidra reveal trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi725FRDS88
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>>42462937
Shanty you say?
https://youtu.be/BJhF0L7pfo8?si=gYt21E9ZgUXYgFyk
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>>42462937
BEST GOTE!
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How much would I have to pay to commission a Shanty x Anon romance story?
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>>42463136
SNIFF
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>>42463036
I'd do it for free if I had the time.
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How does your favorite ungulate feel about the Kuchi Kuchi?

Will they bite?
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>>42463483
I don't understand
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Such an awful community
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>>42464300
Sounds like someone got beaten up by a funny goat
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ALL (literally everyone) of you think it is just because Modus being greedy and no sign of decline has always been there even before they sold themselves to Modus, it's like they never delayed their games before. And acting as if there was no dominating consensus that pandering the competitive side of the playerbase is a good decision to make therefore the playerbase has no fault. Of course the devs did nothing wrong! /tfhg/ is literally one person and there has been no other opinion ever expressed on /tfhg/. Another disgusting thing is that people on /tfhg/ and the official discord altogether cheered and welcomed when they got a new publisher back then. Now they changed their stance to hate the new publisher. What an absolute mess of opinion-changing fucktards they are.
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>>42464610
Shanty would get mad at you for calling her funny
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It would not be much different if they got another punlisher. It would be same if it wasn't Modus. The issues always have been there. Not just the publisher, you fuckers. And the overwhelming consensus pushed the decision making process to put every effort into the competitive scenes over storymode.
And zero people will remember the development scene always has been janky.
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>>42463868
Kutchis, coochies, scratches, scritches, etc. Which would like it/bite?
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I want to pet Oleander
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>totally out of contents
>anons have no more things to say
sad
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>>42464911
everyone is too lazy to start a tourney
me included
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>>42464912
what about drawing instead of posting ancient pics over and over (for example OP pic is an ancient work of hushposh)
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>>42464926
my drawing skills are even lower than of a toddler
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>>42464930
the fuck can you fucking do outside of playing the game?
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>>42464947
Yes
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>>42464926
Steelsoul posts new drawings all the time tho
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moo
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>>42465234
dead cow
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I'll post this for now
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>>42465416
tapir booty
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Which ungulate would smell the nicest? Like naturally not using perfume or anything.
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>>42465882
Stronghoof
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Are the servers down or something?
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>>42466441
They've been down for a bit but not custom ones?
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>>42466441
servers went down when the game changed hands yet again
we'll see if they ever come back up
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>>42466441
Delet this Pap right now
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>>42468133
no
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>me watching the thread schizo spam
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>>42468812
You're Velvet?
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>>42469115
Maybe
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>>42469622
Cute colt
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>>42470208
Sorry he's only into women
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>>42470278
Just like me
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>>42470278
this is a lie
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>>42470278
too bad
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dead game
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>muh modus bad!!1!
we all know modus sucks, but how in the world did they not know it coming? And why did they choose modus?
Also have the devs been even capable to promise the storymode in the first place? Didn't the playerbase give feedback to the devs to sacrifice the storymode and put development resources and focus on the level 3 update, ports, new characters and the battle pass?
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You guys also NEED to know that it would not be much different if they choose just another publisher. YOU suck.
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God I hope one day somehow Hasbro ends up owning TFH. It would be so fucking funny and yet they'd probably treat it better than any of its other publishers.
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Paprika kill this guy
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the devs and the playerbase also has fault. You guys just deny it and blame all on modus.
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I want an ANSWER
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>>42470801
You can't handle the truth
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bump your fucking thread you sick fucking fuckers fuck
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alright this game is killed solely by the greedy modus and everything was going so well with the devs before, and the devs and the playerbase did nothing wrong, and the players were so creative and don't solely play the games only, they are so creative thay they produce music and draw art all the time, even run a con and do cosplay, and above shipper-level readers and despise shipping-tier materials such as cashleander, and cam and oreo were the best mod ever, the communication between the devs and playerbase was so good, there were no aggressive bans. you won.
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this is why you guys can't stop getting "muh betrayed" all the time.
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the modding scene was great too, they managed to made a second chapter by themselves! They weren't useless!
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all these posts are made by 1 person btw
mental illness
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I sincerely hate you guys
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>>42471794
isn't it obvious? because only one person in the entire community worldwide has a different opinion
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>>42471794
Threesome with Fluttershy and Pom
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I wish they cut the servers off oneday...
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>>42471864
Should I?
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>>42471923
me in the middle but im a human instead
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>>42471923
Anon patting both at the same time
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>>42471923
me in the middle
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>>42470754
Would be pretty neat.
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>>42471936
This
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>>42472260
One day I will 3D print ungulates...
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>>42472913
give them a nice butt if you do
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>>42472913
probably be better quality than that velvet we got if it actually stays attached to the stand
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>>42471864
Nah, threesome with AJ and Arizona.
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see, tfh is not only connected to mlp and does not want to be its own thing but also every tfh fans are bronies.
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>>42474316
This but Velvet and Rarity
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Is he ban evading now
all the other spam got deleted
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>>42474638
Looks like it
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your """truth""" won
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>>42474638
I'd never think there would be someone more mentally ill than cowtist
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>>42475468
Straight men want only one thing...
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>>42475852
my wife
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>>42476499
me on the left
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>>42476859
why
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You guys are somehow still more active than fraymakers.
https://steamcharts.com/app/1420350
https://steamcharts.com/app/574980
Aren't both these games kind of popular? How come no one, literally no one (less than 20 players a day) play these games????
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>>42477211
why not
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>>42477302
The game was popular to talk about as a "little guy resists big bad corporation and makes their own game with blackjack and hookers" but no one was actually willing to play it long-term. Popular to think about, yes. Popular to play, no.
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>>42477302
Please don’t show me these, it breaks my heart.
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>>42478226
I want to taste Ari's milk
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>>42478590
I want to taste Pom's milk
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>>42479210
What would it taste like?
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>>42479415
>Is there dirt on mah butt or somethin'?
>Is that why yer starin' at it so much?
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Oleander's milk...
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>>42479454
>>42479343
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>>42479556
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>>42479559
My fantasy is ruined...
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>>42479556
like saffron
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>>42479343
like good sheep milk (sheep milk is the best milk btw, objectively)
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>>42479614
How is it the best I never tried it
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>>42479642
https://youtu.be/cfIepqHgWQ4?t=709
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>>42480089
Crazy, but still would
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>>42480089
My mains (Xrd Rammy) fused. Based
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Cuddling Velvet
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>>42481146
Touch da cow
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>>42479705
Interesting. Youtube comments never fail to make me angry.
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I barely even like cow milk, I'm not drinking anything else
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Hmm... Today i will check the herd's thread...
>full of unplayers
>horny waifufags
>probably 5 regulars at most
Depressing
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>>42481146
cute!
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>>42482048
Got anything else to complain about buddy?
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>>42482634
>Naked shapley form barely visible underneath
Very lewd. Also it's weird to me that sheep actually have kind of long tails?
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>>42482176
Her snout is nonexistential
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>>42482664
Her snout doesn't need to be very pronounced from the front, I also chalk it up to an anime inspired style.
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>>42472260
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>>42482909
>Cashmere's face when thinking of all the salt she's going to rake in
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>>42482909
Cute
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>>42483249
Where she sittin?
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"tfh is a fighting game, storymode is not important"
-tfh playerbase, 2020
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>42483768
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>>42484095
Where did the alpaca got a gun?
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>>42484219
The gun store
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>>42484219
Texas.
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>>42482909
I want to hug Cashmere
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>>42484721
Didn't knew Ari's dad had pieces. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised.
His name is literally Texas, AKA: "America: the stereotype state."
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How long can Shanty go without alcohol?
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Away!
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>>42482634
Ok, she's my new waifu.
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>>42486780
>New waifu
Come on anon just like that?
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Baah I say
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>>42487243
I have a type.
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>>42488159
Do ewe now
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>>42488566
I like em big and fluffy. And maybe a little mean. Steelsoul please draw everyone as milfs thank you.
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>>42488634
>Velvet as a milf
My dick would explode
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Hmm I feel like we could draw tfhg characters on Wplace
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>>42488912
I can't draw
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>>42489282
you think majority of people there can? They just trace while having set up overlays

you have to be insane to draw pixel art without assistance
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>>42489282
>>42489289
it's true, people just plug an image into a site and get a blueprint.
And even if you can't do lines, you can still fill in holes.
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>>42482977
Don’t disappoint the poor girl.
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>>42490623
she only cares about salt, not about you
now I ain't saying she's a salt digger but she ain't messing with no broke nigga
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Might post more stuff before my vacation.
And this isn't an anthro, she's just using her fluff as boob support...which is another reason why Pomf is best gal
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(\√√/”)
{0c0 𝅮 /”) { oh deer )
.(„ ( ,,,)¡},)
. |,/ \, ) ,)
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>>42491173
wtf I love this
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>>42491125
Nice Pomf, same goes for the new posts on derpi
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>>42491486
didn't even know lol
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sex
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>>42492011
Velvet OWES me sex.
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>>42492463
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>>42492895
kick
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She shivering
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>>42492969
Fix her shivering with my body warmth
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>>42492895
>velvet with ari lassos
how horrifying
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>>42492895
>velvet with ari lassos
how erotic
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I absolutely despise you guys
I wish it never happened
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>>42492895
Velvet would never wear clothes, not even a minor accessory like a bandana. Even an inch of fabric obscuring her natural beauty is too much for her
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>>42493955
She would wear clothes because she isnt a whore
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baa
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>>42493955
I kinda agree with this

>>42494343
She usually doesn't wear clothes, same goes with most foenum ungulates
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>>42492463
Good Baihe, love the dynamic pose
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What’s snuggle time like with your favorite ungulate?
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>>42495646
Full of wool
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>>42495646
Warm, soft, floofy, with some hoof holding
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>>42495646
smells like calf
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cull /tfhg/ to /trash/
ban steelsoul to /bale/
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BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!

Is your life tournament-less? Have you been training for no real reason at all? Trying to find a reason to play the game and coming up empty?

WELL DO WE HAVE THE THING FOR YOU!

That's right, this one time offer of a QT TOURNEY can be yours. Just follow the link below and join us SUNDAY AUGUST 31st at 4PM EST to once again put those fighting fingers to use!

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE! Act now and receive the CLASSIC EDITION for FREE! A completely vintage experience like the days of yore. NO DLC ALLOWED! This includes Shanty meaning you only have to worry about THE ORIGINAL SIX characters. Relieve the yesteryears with this vintage saga one week from today. ACT NOW, this offer won't last!


https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/YA83bGC45U#/signup/jt2e2rqw1al
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>>42496827
cringe
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>>42496827
based
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>>42496827
will we have to dig up an old version of the game or are character restrictions fine
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>>42497099
Character restrictions, I assume, otherwise it would be stated. That said getting old versions is easy and can be done through the Steam client directly, no need for piracy or modding of any kind. Here are the steps:
>press Win+R
>type "steam://open/console"
>in the console, type "download_depot [game ID] [depot ID] [manifest ID]

The game ID is 574980
The depot is the branch of the game that gets updated, in this case there are two: 574981 is the game data and 574982 is the .exe file
The manifest is whatever patch you want to download, which you can find on SteamDB. You would need to find the manifests for both of the above depots listed

So, if you wanted to download the final patch before 2.0, which is 1.4.4, you would type these two commands:
>download_depot 574980 574982 4227772097985812053
>download_depot 574980 574981 2241476861881346268

And if you wanted the final version before 3.0's shitty balance update, 2.3.1, you would enter these commands:
>download_depot 574980 574982 8159981240186803274
>download_depot 574980 574981 8747300530227638014

The only thing I can't help with is finding the server kit for those old versions of the game. I have the app number for the server files as well as the manifest numbers I would want, but the method to download it use SteamCMD rather than the Steam console. Alternatively if someone has those versions archived and could reupload them that would work.
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2022: new characters good
2025: oh no no no go back to six
fucking pathetic
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>>42497344
Shanty was fine, it was the dads that weren't wanted
we wanted new and interesting unguladies, not a grappler's power fantasy and deergeta.
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ngl you guys will still be here even after 2050, playing the exact same game with no updates whatsoever
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>>42491173
The exclamation point that was too spicy for /v/...
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>>42491173
I don't know what im looking at
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>>42497744
A triforce.
The most botched attempt I've ever seen.
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>>42497744
You can't see the apple?
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>>42497744
Sex
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>>42497744
Damn your font gives her a fat dumpy
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>>42497485
i wanted them
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>>42491173
Cover yourself, lady!
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>>42497485
I didn't want them
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>>42497485
>>42498408
>>42498456
all me btw
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cant wait to play and comically lose against veterans again and I wouldn't have it any other way
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>>42499039
I will be spared comical losses simply because I will probably be helping move really heavy furniture that day
it is not a trade I like
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>>42497099
Character restrictions are fine. Extra work is extra work.

>>42497344
>2022: oh no I'm gay
>2025: oh no I'm still gay
disgusting

>>42496884
>>42496952
sovl
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>>42499470
I love not doing extra work
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>>42499370
sex
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>>42499370
sex
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>>42499370
sex
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I don't get it
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>Score one w/ Shanty!

What's wrong with this goat?
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>>42500642
me either
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>>42500830
She has spunk which I like
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Shanty would definitely ride you raw cowgirl style
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>>42502035
She would drink your piss
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>>42502528
If I wasn't there to watch it and she didn't try to kiss me with piss mouth then sure whatever
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>>42502528
is that a promise?
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>>42502763
it's a threat
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>>42502035
https://files.catbox.moe/l0kqdk.png
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Shanty is probably the least pleasant smelling of the ungulates and I’m sure over half of them already smell like shit.
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>>42503784
Good stuff
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>>42503784
slop
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>>42503784
Good slop
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>>42503772
Tinyzona is cute as fuck
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>>42506064
I will protect Velvet
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Hey guys I don't play your game just stopping in to see how you all are doin'.

How ya doin?
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>>42506742
keeping the ball rolling, but not much else. Tourney in a couple days though.
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>>42506742
I love Velvet. That is all.
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>>42506742
We're in interesting times for the first time in a year and a half. The company Mane6 sold the IP to has been going bankrupt for a while and last month it was announced that said company has sold the IP. We don't yet know who it's been sold to or what their plans are, but we'll find out in early September. There's been an uptick in tournaments since the announcement including QT Tourney coming back for at least a one-off, so things have picked up. We'll see if things get better or worse with the new owners than when the game was dead in the water
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*bleats at you*
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>>42507161
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>>42506906
>sold to ANOTHER random company
We've been asking if things could possibly get any worse and I think we're about to find out.
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>>42507653
What could be worse than most of the dev team being fired, the game being cancelled, and the story script being locked away?
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>>42507453
IWTCIHA (no homo)
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ungulads
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>>42508229
We persevere
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>>42507673
The worst parts of the dev team who couldn't hold a job in a real business due to their issues all come back but don't hire the good members of the dev team who were able to quickly find better jobs with their skills
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>>42507673
Shut down the servers, pull from storefronts, and write off the IP as a tax break due to its cursed and unprofitable nature ensuring that nobody can ever even attempt to revive it.
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>>42508634
>buying something to write it off as a tax break
You don't get a 100% refund from the money you spent on something when you write it off, anon, only the taxes you would have paid on it. You would lose a ton of money buying something solely to do that
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>>42508715
I'm assuming whoever bought TFH had it thrown in with whatever actually valuable properties they bought from Maxim.
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>>42508750
>valuable properties
Can you name a single MaxEnt IP besides TFH, Super Animal Royale or Diesel Legacy? And DL bombed, though the devs have said they have news to share and that the game does have a future so someone must have had at least a token interest in it if it wasn't sold directly to the devs. TFH is bigger than DL so it's likely someone has some kind of plan, even if a very shortsighted one
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>>42508804
I don't have my hopes up. The plan for TFH might be as simple as "do nothing and collect passive income from bronies who haven't bought the game or DLC yet."
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>>42508844
That's a pretty bad plan, they've given the game away twice now and it goes on sale for like $5 with all the DLC. Unless they bought it dirt cheap, like sub-$10k, they wouldn't get any return on that investment. You would have to have at least small updates and encourage tournaments etc.
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im ready to get my ass whopped in 2 days
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seems kind of unfair people who play shanty will have to use a secondary while everyone else can still use their main
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>>42509175
>people who play shanty
yeah that 1 single player will be sad
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>>42509175
And what about the poor Baihe mains?
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>>42509175
That's true for Texas mains too
I don't have a problem with Shanty and if I were to run a regular "no DLC" tournament I would let Shanty through while banning the other four, but a "QT Origins" bracket banning Shanty makes sense, there were three years of Quality Tournament Tournaments before she arrived
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>>42509184
i only didn't say it for the other DLCs because someone would just reply "boo hoo nigga" because this general hates them
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>>42509175
what if we just made everyone else play secondaries too (still within the OG 6)
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>>42509190
I was going to "boohoo nigga" so your predictions are accurate
>>42509182
boohoo nigga
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>>42509194
you mean like some sort of... shitshow?
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>>42509190
The hate isn't unwarranted, none of them have the gameplay philosophy of the first seven characters. There really aren't any super fucked up, unwinnable matchups among the 2.0 cast, worst is like Ole:Pom and Pom:Pap, while the dads and Baihe all have at least one extremely skewed matchup where the opponent has no tools to deal with them (Shanty against the dads, Arizona and Paprika against Baihe etc.). The only reason launch Stronghoof didn't DESTROY the competitive scene was a combination of the scene being mostly dead even by that point (so little incentive to tierwhore) and everyone in the community being a character specialist with years of experience in their main that they don't want to give up. If Stronghoof got developed at all by top players in 2023 the character would have had to be banned.
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>>42496827
I will show you newfags the horrors of old skool pap main shinanigans
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>>42509408
>the dads and Baihe all have at least one extremely skewed matchup where the opponent has no tools to deal with them
comparing Baihe to the other DLC is an insanely false equivalence, Baihe shits on EVERYONE, Shanty only sucks against dads for the same reason she kinda sucks against everyone else.

this post also somehow doesn't mention Velvet a single time, who not only outright beats both dads matchup wise, but is also considered by many credible players to be arguably the best character in the game post-5.1/6.0/whichever the fuck gave her chip steroids.

i'll grant you Stronghoof was absolutely ridiculous at launch, but we're talking about 2025, not 2023.
he's still very strong though, especially after there was a sort of labbing renaissance for him over the last 6 months or so (I think he's better than Texas actually)
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>>42509408
what are the principles of this gameplay philosophy of which you speak
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>>42509578
how can you hate someone that doesn't exist
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>>42506906
>>42506870
>>42506749
Maybe this is merely the beginning. I don't have high hopes, as you seem even more niche than YOMI. But perhaps. Perhaps.
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rape
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>>42510250
pom only
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>>42509646
I'm a Velvet player and even I think her chip damage buff is something so insane only a tranny could have thought it up.
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>>42509646
I was going to pick up stronghoof as an alternative to velvet sometimes. fuck
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>>42510656
he's better than velvet at fighting tianhuo and shanty, so it could still be worth it if those give you trouble

or maybe you'll just find that you do better with a brawler than a zoner, who knows? its always worth experimenting

when people say a character is better than another in this game it's still really like 90% player skill and individual play style, the character differences only matter for specific matchups, and having a good matchup doesn't automatically make you win

tl;dr trying new things is fun, so don't let metafaggotry get in the way of it
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>>42509408
Nidra is in line with vanilla design philosophy, and is a victim of very skewed matchups as well. Her damage is perhaps a bit too high, but she has distinct weaknesses and counterplay. If not for her bugs and her absurd damage, she'd fit right in, and both of those should have been very easy to correct.
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>>42511643
having a visually unreactable safe on block overhead is not in line with the design philosophy of any other character up to that point, but sure continue to overlook some "rules" (headcanons you made up about how the game is supposed to be) being broken and autistically focus on others to justify your personal taste in playstyles.
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>>42511683
Which overhead is that? And for how many years have people bitched about Arizona's shorthop overheads being unreactable? Or maybe Pom's unseeable 50/50s? Impossible-to-react mixups have always been in the game. Her -3 overhead is nothing compared to the shit that Texas and Stronghoof bring to the game in their neutral and their pressure. Nidra still plays neutral, she has universal counterplay in her pressure. Pom and Oleander are both more degenerate than she is, and they are vanilla.
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>>42511746
>Which overhead is that?
236A, but also the j.C instant overhead if you want to count that too

Arizona's shorthop overheads being unreactable?
they're not, shj.C hits crouchers on f24, they're just bad. plus jumping overheads can't be cancelled into at any moment like standing overheads so there's a little difference in risk too.

>Or maybe Pom's unseeable 50/50s?
more like 25/25/25/25s, and they're more fucked up than any mix the dads are capable of, other than that stupid stronghoof "ex command grab" thing that they patched in the beta we're still waiting for an official release of

>Pom and Oleander are both more degenerate than she is, and they are vanilla.
pom and oleander are both contenders for most degen character period (minus baihe), which only reinforces my point that the "vanilla good, DLC bad" argument is stupid.

if any DLC character had Fred on block we would never heard the end of it.
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>>42511805
The j.C instant overhead is unsafe on block.
Baihe is obviously just unfinished-broken-tier, so she's not relevant to the discussion. But Stronghoof and Texas are broken in different ways. Stronghoof is broken in the same way Oleander-Fred and Pom are broken, and quite frankly both of those characters are retarded. Texas breaks the game in his own way unique from any other character, what with the resourceless armor, restands, and so on.
Stronghoof is aggravating because he's yet another character who engages in riskless puppet pressure bullshit, and the less of that we have in the game the better. There's less of a case for banning him than Baihe or Texas, because that sort of degeneracy already exists in Pom and Oleander. But the less of it we have, the better. But there is no good argument for keeping Texas or Baihe.
Basically... No sane person would include Baihe. Nidra is on-par with most of the vanilla cast. Shanty might as well be base cast. Stronghoof is analogous to Ole and Pom in bullshit-level, and the less of that the better. Texas is the only real "rulebreaker", and nobody likes him except Texas mains.
A blanket ban on all DLC makes it less complicated, but in reality only two or three of them are actually that much of a problem.
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>>42511314
What a tease
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>>42511855
Also,
>"only two or three of them"
when there are only 5 DLC characters.
How they managed to fuck up half the DLC, I have no idea
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>>42511855
oh btw i have no problem with the vanilla-only tournament existing, it's a fun little gimmick, i just hate bad anti-DLC arguments.

i really disagree on Texas being broken though.
i think his design is stupid in some ways (why does his magic not matter at all?) but counterplay to him has gotten a lot better since release. he's still obnoxious as fuck in low/mid level gameplay though so i understand why most of the playerbase feels the way they do about him.
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>>42511887
I disagree on Texas being fine. He's incredibly antithetical to the game. Realistically it'd only take a few changes to make him acceptable, but as long as he exists in his current state, he's an obnoxious stain on the cast and one of the main reasons a lot of players refuse to come back.
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>>42511896
realistically most of those people just got burnt out on the game in general.
i don't think they'd come back if texas suddenly stopped existing tomorrow

i still would like it if he was tweaked though, make texas smash 5 frames and fix the run throw hurtbox at the very least
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>>42511938
Texas Smash 5 frames is definitely the big one. Rebalancing Texas Run is the other big one. It makes little sense for the combo-starter followup to retain armor and be safe on block. I also wonder if it would be better off with only one hit of armor or if that would make it unusable. It's hard to imagine it being that bad of a nerf, though.
I also really, really, really want restand gone, at least as a reset point. I can imagine it working like a stagger, where you can still use it for combos after JD is full, but it doesn't lead to a reset anymore. Maybe it'd be too much if his neutral were nerfed. Maybe he'd "need" that offensive snowball potential, and his movement speed would make techrolls difficult to chase.
And of course, maybe his magic needs to actually matter. Maybe bells should be more unsafe on block, unless magic is spent to improve their framedata. Maybe bell followups should cost two magic. There's a lot of potential there.
It's definitely possible to imagine a Texas that is well-designed. Current Texas is a blight on the game and frankly the main reason I don't boot up as often as I used to. It'd be less of an issue if all of the modern "top" players weren't Dad mains.
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>>42512083
i think armor has to work the way it does for it to be any good, not having a forward dash is just such a huge penalty that it has to be kind of overly strong to make up for it. only 1 hit of armor would just be too easy to mash through mindlessly to be effective, unless you also made run C startup way faster, which would cause problems with other interactions.

idk if adding magic cost to followups would change all that much, since his optimal combos already have 2-3 bullseyes in them. he basically gains that much magic at any given time just be doing what he does normally. the rope part of the hitbox should definitely be made worse though, he gets away with doing cowbells way closer than he should be doing them as a ranged control tool.

idk how to feel about restand. he needs it too much against characters that just win the game if they get away from him (e.g. velvet) but it's too good otherwise. i'd want to see a playtest of him without it to see.

as for the other thing, off the top of my head i can really only think of like 2-3 high level texas or stronghoof players respectively, maybe you just have really bad luck with who's online when you play
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>>42512239
Or maybe the game is DEAD and those are the only high level players left.
As for the first point about armor... He has the B followup. That's the followup meant to dissuade mashing. It's fast enough to frametrap. Maybe it should be the one that's -3. That's kind of a staple in a lot of "run stance" characters. The safe mid that frametraps, but doesn't lead to combos in most situations.
Even if none of his run followups led to anything crazy on hit/block, players would still be incentivized to mash because runstop TS is such a threat at all times. You can't NOT do something against run. The problem is how few meaningful options there are. There is a theoretically "balanced" RPS in there somewhere, but as it stands now, it feels far too risky as the defender for how little Texas has to risk as the attacker.
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>>42512308
>Or maybe the game is DEAD and those are the only high level players left.
you would think it'd be the other way around, all the high-levels leaving and only terrible people left who didn't get the memo the game's over
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>>42511862
>don't play any of the DLC characters
>paid for the pass just to get my ass kicked by them
It's not the biggest waste of money in my life but it is one of the most regrettable ones.
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>>42512839
high level players have the most personal investment into the game already, so it makes sense they'd get trapped by sunk cost fallacy

a shitter can just drop the game with no consequence since they were never that into it anyway
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>>42512895
But that's not what happened. All of the "old greats" quit the game, and the current "top players" are a very different crowd. It's pretty much impossible to compare them now, because they're playing entirely different games (Dad Simulator + Velveeta Mac and Cheese) with entirely different player pools.
The game pissed off so many hardcore top players that they left despite sunk cost fallacy, or just got banned and forced to leave.
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>>42512917
idk what era you're from but most of the best players right now are still people who have been playing for a long time, there's only a couple 3.0 babies with actual results
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>>42512939
Ancient gamer. (Insert Joker meme about different gamer ages, but it's eras of TFH)
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>>42512308
in practice the gap between mashed chain normals isn't usually small enough to get a run B inbetween without getting hit, especially considering Texas also has to react to getting hit to use it for that purpose (run B coming out instantly upon his armor getting hit was a bug that has been removed). it really only works as a counter if they're only hitting him with slow heavy normals.

after thinking about it for a while though i think i actually agree with you that it's weird that run C can be converted into a full combo while run B can't, considering the former is much lower risk.
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>>42513141
*usually can't combo, i mean
before someone corrects that it can if it wallsticks
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>>42512944
old fart
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bap
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>>42496827
I don't know where my controller.went.
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i misread and thought this shit was today instead of sunday
day ruined
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Do/did you have any OCs?
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>>42514865
My OC is anon
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>>42514763
just means you've got plenty of time to practice
>>42514865
not for TFH, no.
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>>42513940
play with your keyboard
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>>42512083
Texas Smash needs to be 6 frames, not 5, solely because it has full invuln on its active frame. Texas, in a +0 situation (which are admittedly rare) would beat any 5f jab in the game when that's otherwise not how strike v. throw works in this game. 6f preserves that dynamic. The alternative is removing the invuln and fixing whatever edge cases cause it to be necessary, but that's much more work.

As for Texas's magic, my proposal is to make it so Texas doesn't gain a stock from his bell tippers until AFTER the cancel window for the followup ends. Texas either uses the bell without a followup and gains a stock, or uses the followup and loses a stock. It's far from perfect because Texas 5D is a great combo tool on its own (and you can't just make it worse without completely fucking up his combo structure and requiring many other changes to his moves to compensate for this loss) but it would make Texas at 0 magic much less threatening at long range, since he needs 5DD to convert his fullscreen stomp into a combo (I would also change his 2C to knock the opponent away when in OTG state so he can't just substitute that at long range).
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>>42515778
6 frame texas smash would probably warrant making his 2A 5 frames instead of 6 to avoid being the only character with no 5 frame abare. but that's still way better than just being 1 frame better than everyone else for no reason

the cowbell magic might be easier to change by just making followups cost 2 magic, which accomplishes the same thing without having to change how magic gain works
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>>42514865
i dont need OCs
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>>42514865
One of the crowdfunding rewards was a custom lobby sprite but obviously that didn't happen
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when is the tourney again?
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>>42517055
check-in is between 2~4pm EST, so I imagine it's around 4.
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Im back! Heres a Pomf
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>>42517230
well-pomfed
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Haven't played in a year and a half, what the fuck is going on here? Where are all the servers?
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>>42517393
game got bought out again and since then the official servers shut down (Since I'm guessing they were hosted by the previous owners)
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>>42517430
Yeah I heard about that but I thought the new company put them back up after a day or two
Or are these three the new company's servers? I forget how the colorcoding of official vs non-official servers worked
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>>42517510
I honestly know jack shit because most of the fucking information is on their discord which I don't use
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I hope Minty will be there.
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>>42517055
challonge says 4 eastern so realistically it will start at 4:45
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>>42517761
not if everyone checks in and is there on time
then we'll only have to waste twenty minutes trying to fit everyone into a server
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>>42517230
sexo
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>>42517761
Don't spread misinformation. We are punctual and start on time every time.
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>>42517514
They dont even say shit on the discord unless there's a new one I dont know about.

>>42517728
minty plz
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>>42517728
I hope Thracker will be there!
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>>42518046
t.hracker please
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Important announcement
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>top 5 players in the first quarter of the bracket
"""""random"""" seeding btw
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>>42518176
just means it'll be exciting and other people have a chance to advance
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What is this button even?
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>>42518316
the dedicated jizz button
didn't you have it assigned?
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>>42518316
Cum into wall.
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>1.5x the players in round 1 as grand finals of the other tournament going on
The children yearn for QT
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>>42518327
dick measuring is unspirited behavior smhalam
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>>42518316
me penetrating velvet's hymen
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>>42518327
well, when the entrants are the viewing audience, a healthy tourney will break those numbers easy.
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wtf oscar washed
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>>42518524
it's so he can roll through losers and pad his W/L ratio
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>>42518524
He did say he didn't touch the game for 6 months
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well, drowned in losers again, but I did okay considering the lineup I think. Not a bad time.
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i'd like to issue a formal apology for every time i've downplayed tianhuo, hooooooooly shit

it's so much worse when they play evasively
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>>42518786
>pulls an upset with surprisingly good oleander
>picks PAPRIKA to fight noodle
it's your fault tbdesu
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>>42518786
you don't like playing "stand around and wait for the exact right moment to 6A or die"?
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Good games gamers.
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>>42518966
lot of fun cow games today
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Well that went better then expected. 23 players and 34 viewers (and 1-2 on youtube)? The hell is this? Not what we expected at all with such a random and short notice decision. AND IT WASNT EVEN MINE! Despite prevailing wisdom I was just along for the ride.

All in all WAS FUN! Quite an interesting final as well. Always great seeing Paprika on screen. I hope yall had fun in this """"last"""" rodeo. Who knows what the future holds, but don't hold your breath either.

And yeah.

STOP BEING SO HORNY
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God, I would fuck every last ungulate in Foenum if given half the chance. Starting with Velvet and Stronghoof.
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>>42519011
based
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literally impossible to not be horny
the horns are permanently stuck to our heads
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>>42519011
CHAD
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Do any of you still occasionally play tfh? My last game was at the last QT. What's the qrd on the game's situation. I'm hearing the ip has exchange hands once again and official servers are now gone.
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>>42519553
idk
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is nidra really a stance character?
her "stances" kind of just feel like really complicated rekkas. she doesn't really spend much time inside any of the stances, just momentarily to either gain magic or use one of the moves.

this also applies to shanty but in the sense that she's even less of one than nidra is.
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>>42520500
Never has there been a character more built for stockings than Pom.
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>>42520501
She is a cute one to draw in them
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>>42520501
it just werks
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>>42514865
Over the years I must have made up of at least a dozen. Never drew or posted Any of them though, just ideas for them.
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>>42520572
Damn lewd sheep...
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>>42521183
I want to eat pancakes with her
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*bark*!!!
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give every character a rising air unblockable
make air throws good

total chickenblocker death
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>>42522300
is the fat one too short to show up
and is stronghoof off screen to the left
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>>42522320
Perchance.
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>>42522339
this is
acceptable
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>>42519553
gaem is dedder
thred is kill
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>>42520065
Shanty is more of a "run" character. Think Guy in Street Fighter, or El Fuerte if you're feeling spicy. Run > Stop pressure with different followups to mix up.
Nidra is a stance character, and that's usually how stances work. Swapping in and out of stances, usually only for a brief moment to abuse a certain string or followup. Think Soul Calibur's Siegfried. Not every stance is a total change in playstyle, they're generally just a way to temporarily gain a few options.
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>>42522571
my cock is not
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>>42523031
This
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>>42519553
The game is fucking dead.

I literally have no idea why this thread is even around anymore.
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>>42523608
to sometimes have tourneys or salt mines sessions ofcourse
and the art
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>>42523539
Plap that gote
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>>42523679
>and the art
That's what I'm here for, bless steelsoul
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TFH has a new publisher listed on the Steam page. They have no games of their own and seemingly only purchased TFH and Diesel Legacy from MaxEnt.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/2070758/000207075825000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml
They got a $1 million investment from someone or some group
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>>42524662
>Diesel legacy
That's that kinda shitty looking lane based fighting game MikeZ was working on
Hmmmm
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>>42524662
I don't know if it would be hilarious or sad if this new publisher gave us a season 2 DLC and just didn't fix any of the issues with the season 1 characters.
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>>42524662
https://thegameplaygroup.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegameplaygroup

Seems to be entirely new, 5 employees listed only in the linkedin but they say they got 11-50 employees

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13320761/
hold on, one of them already worked for the game
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>>42524690
https://br.linkedin.com/in/mario-cruz-1a7826244/
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Mario is one of the people that joined the team in 2022 with the sale to Maximum Entertainment, he was credited as Combat Design on the website and also worked on Diesel Legacy
https://x.com/octokortex
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>>42524725
>combat design post 2022
It's so over.
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>>42524746
he only seemed to worked on TFH in 2022 and 2023, so the dads only.
Not much of a disaster as whoever worked on Baihe

>I had the opportunity to work on this game, implementing characters, new mechanics, and the story mode. The project had already been released in 2018, and much of my work on the game also involved analyzing and fixing bugs.

>the story mode
maybe he is based
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>>42524751
Shit, the new publishers might have gold on their hands if they decide to just finish up the story and release it. The whole script is done and chapter 2 has got to be 90% done when Mane6 abandoned it. They could probably even get away with selling it as DLC.
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>>42524680
>MikeZ buys as much of the Z-engine back as he can
would be funny
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bah
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>>42524690
>one of them already worked for the game
Hopefully one that indeed did work on the game and not just powertrip on discord?
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>>42525406
probably the former considering most people have never heard of him until now
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On the subject of future DLC: no whitetail music, no buy.
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>>42524761
If he makes it work, it would be the funnies comeback.
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Which TFH character should appear as a guest in another fighting game? And which game?
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>>42525828
i don't even like platform fighters but rivals 2 is the lowest hanging fruit here, both being animal games
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>>42525828
tekken
any of them would work but the easiest would be the bear since there's already one in there.
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>>42525619
they could get him back
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beef in 2020
you guys did dislike on developing storymode
I still remember
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I hate you typologically
I fucking hate your kind
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Gay sex with Mop.
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>>42527107
this
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>>42527107
No thanks
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>>42491173
When is this getting deleted?
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>>42527471
Deer is too powerful
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>>42527666
I just want to lay down on her stomach and rest my head on her floof
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>>42528121
Velvet not included because she is crying in the corner for being an old hag
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>>42528170
Weird that you single out Velvet when Paprika, Tianhuo, and Oleander also aren't present
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>>42528195
they're already adults
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>>42528195
Paprika was sadly deded when she tried to hug Fred
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>>42528195
Oleander is a horse elf who will live to 200 years (when short lived races in TFH die of old age around 30), she's probably barely changed in the years, and Tianhuo is an unspecified extreme age, possibly thousands of years, so she would be completely unchanged when everyone else including Oleander is dead
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>>42528667
wrong
she would be loonger
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>>42528685
maybe slightly but 10 years or however long it took Ari to grow up is such a small fraction of her lifespan it wouldn't have changed much
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>>42528974
depends on how many longma balls she's gathered in that time
surely Shenlongma would impart on her increased length for the feat of gathering them.
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>>42529522
>Paprika devil
Accurate
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>>42530154
ze pomf
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>>42530154
very nice
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>>42531191
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>>42531259
>Pomfy in a dress
I like
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Steelsoul you are half the reason I come into these threads.
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>>42531505
What is the other half?
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>>42531540
(you)
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>>42531908
(ewe)
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>>42531423
Prime face sitting physique
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>>42532237
while the rest are longma, she is a widema
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I wonder if people are going to do a live tourney at marefair
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>>42533711
if they did then they would have said something already about it

IRL stuff is ultra gay eitherway
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>>42532758
A widema is fine too
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>>42533711
Best shanty in NA checking in, I'll play
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>>42534406
What are your thoughts on Shanty's booty?
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>>42534437
Best thing ever
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sex



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