Welcome to Chatbot AI General #138, the thread for discussing and improving AI pony chatbots.▶ MLP Botshttps://mlpchag.neocities.orgSpreadsheet (CAI bots + Old repository):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7BeqJVDS51cXF8Pgm2YZaFq-Z6ykSJTSillyTavern website extension: https://github.com/MLPChag/SillyTavern-Chag-SearchBunch of Character Cards (Descriptions/No Greetings):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6LNOCqAZAWIX-OBEv55HjlzcEdpUh-XbKCpbpL6v5kCAI bots converted to Tavern: https://files.catbox.moe/ckurq1.zipExpression packs: https://rentry.org/ChagExpressions!!!GALLERY!!!: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1Ao-h5HFGMPllSrzSBKM_BvGSiU9f0c2U▶ How do I start?1) Select a Frontend2) Select an AI model3) Select Jailbreak4) Select bots5) Lovemaking with AI mares!Starting in this hobby can be confusing and difficult. If it’s your first time and you’re lost,▶ ASK THE THREAD! ◀Novice-to-advanced guide: https://rentry.org/onrmshttps://rentry.org/sukino-findings▶ SillyTavern (preferred frontend)https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernOn Android: https://rentry.org/TermuxSTApp that voices pony responses in ST: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16Ss26VBmgzcSuTGzhaHqRuyVRceTf-YB▶ More frontends:Risu: https://risuai.xyzAgnai: https://agnai.chat▶ Localshttps://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperiments>>>/g/lmg/Mistral Nemo base model fine-tuned on fimfics: https://huggingface.co/Ada321/Nemo_Pony_2/tree/main▶ JailbreaksMLP JB: https://rentry.org/znon7vxeMore JB and guides: https://rentry.org/jb-listingHypebots for Tavern: https://rentry.org/pn3hb▶ BotmakingEditors: https://agnai.chat/editorGuides: https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listAdvanced: https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks▶ MiscellaneousScrapped/Collected rentries: rentry.org/mrhdChag Arts: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1yfajin_hB5rW_jy6WyFjRaRfDA3EUGiJhttps://rentry.org/ChagMiscellaneoushttps://rentry.org/ChagArchivePrevious thread: >>42470284**News:**- Deepseek V3.1 released: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312- OpenAI releases GPT-5 models, all preceding models slated for deprecation https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5- Z.ai releases GLM-4.5 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.5- Claude Opus 4.1 released: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-1
Anchor for bots, lorebooks, scenarios.Previous >>42470286
Anchor for technical stuffs (Proxies, Presets, Updates, Models etc.)
Anchor for asking for bots, lorebooks, scenarios etc.
Bots corner:Radio Heart: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Radio%20Heart.pngLatte Luxury: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Windhover/Latte%20Luxury.pngScreenshots corner:What's the plan >>42470327 Joy of flying >>42471257 Pinkie's audition >>42471553 Love deficiency >>42474349, >>42474356 Bucked >>42476042 I don't understand what's written but this seems cool >>42476504 Anon's family >>42478273 The best price >>42480059
Screenshots corner 2:Radio Heart >>42476052, >>42476272, >>42476428, >>42479010, >>42479132, >>42479143, >>42479284, >>42479481, >>42481031
Screenshots corner 3:Latte Luxury >>42480591, >>42480640 Cutthroat fashion industry >>42483134 EMOJI >>42483273 The 7th Element >>42485091, >>42485134 Protective Glimmy >>42486722
VN Anchor:Last releases:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/Anons mods (Dashie mod and Nightmare AU):https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/modsCustom characters:https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/charactersVN logs:An invitation >>42470457 Air Balloon >>42471579 IWTCIRDALD >>42472857 No context >>42473138 Echo >>42475231 Sweetie sleepover >>42475571, >>42475583, >>42475769 Filly Pinkie >>42475928
VN logs 2:Comfy with the Apples family >>42476205, >>42476689, >>42476757 Anon's adventure in Our Town >>42478046, >>42478271, >>42478308, >>42481006 Commie gobbledygook >>42478353 Flirting with Mac >>42478513
VN logs 3:Best friends >>42478103 Dashie >>42479086, >>42479112 Cherry >>42484931 Dinky Doo >>42485741
>>42488263These days, you can get legit good AI for free and without needing any demanding hardware on your end.Install SillyTavern:github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernTutorial and video:aicharactercards.com/guides/sillytavern-installation-instructions/Then choose a model. I'd recommend starting with Gemini, but you can try Deepseek, K2 etc. for free.rentry.org/sukino-findings#if-you-want-to-use-an-online-ai
Lovemaking with AI mares!
Thanks to anon who made kiro script month ago, now it's almost dead but there's new similar vibecoded chink ide with similar preview kind of approach around the corner (on their site it says they've got claude but i'm not sure, answering similar to claude as per my experience but still have some doubts)
>>42488301Still seems to work for me, what do you mean by almost dead?
>>42488293
>describe mares being clearly drugged and forced into sexual submission >model is too positivitypilled so it copes itself into having the new mare think it looks 'freeing'Kinda hot.
>>42488328They have interesting way to charge for requests and it often stops mid executing, at least in my case, and i've no way to pay for it since i'm from a very special country...
>>42488274Lily Valleyhttps://u.pone.rs/dfknmzpl.zip
>>42488578Thanks.
anon's innocence must be protected at all costs
>>42488647>ozone I hope this ism will soon be behind us. But cool log and interesting tactic.
>>42488656in defense of the ozone, i also had anon wearing an electrified suit of nails with a cattle prod, so its not completely unfounded
To anyone believing that there's AGI, let them try to get an LLM to be subtle with symbolism.
>>42488647a doodle about it as well
>>42488676Kek. Love your doodles. Thanks, anon.
>>42488647>Lyra [...] "Actually, fecal matter does conduct electricity at a lower rate than urine, but-"
>>42475274
>>42488676love Ponk in the second panel.
is opus 6 logged? i remember getting a suspicious "uhmmmm" error message when i prompted one time and it scared the fuck out of me
>>42488822You should assume that all proxies are logged.
>>42488822We can't know. But >>42488825 >uhmmmm You can customize those.
>>42488825i don't mind it being publicly logged but if the owner itself is reading all logs and judging me that's an entirely different story
>>42488853>"This Anon guy is a fuckin' FREAK"
>>42488853The "uhmmm" is a custom error message. The guy wasn't reading your log in real time (or maybe he was, but the message wasn't him judging your logs).
>>42488661>wearing an electrified suit of nails with a cattle prodhahahaha
FluffPreset was updated if some anons were using it: rentry.org/FluffPreset
>quick start as a pegasus>conversation with twi revolves around the "unique magical ecosystem" of Ponyville, unique ley lines and whatnot>start with Redheart and Cadance at town hall square>accept getting a quick checkup because of "new environmental exposures">picrelCome on Cadance, what is it that you wanted to say? Because I don't believe if it is what I'm thinking.I blame you, alicornified Anon.
>>42489188lmao.I do like the Changeling invasion detail.
the sonnet 3.7 on ac failures is now redirecting to deepseek lol
>>42489328>and now Cloudflare's shitting the bed on O6 again
>>42489328It's dead now, but no, it was still acting like Sonnet with the right knowledge cutoff.
>>42489356Nah, I just used it 5 minutes ago and it hit me with a classic deepseek "In X room, Y is making a noise"
>>42489359Claude can do it too.Here:https://litter.catbox.moe/rkg730cd0t22b8s9.PNGTypical Claude 3.7 answer, you can read:https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42412197/#42424673All DeepSeek models absolutely don't give a fuck and will give an answer.https://litter.catbox.moe/1ghc5skw265zpypk.PNG
>>42489328Sounds like a funny way to confuse tourists tbdesu
>>42489188Look... I only was the cause of *two* magical incidents in Ponyville so far; chaotic storm clouds that would follow my character when I first arrived, due to an imbalance caused by too little dark energy; and then a startled teleport where I temporarily surged and released both light and dark energy, causing me to teleport to the train station and (thankfully) not phased into the ground.
>>42488578https://equestrai-ponyponyparadise.neocities.org/characters
>>42489188I guess I also forgot the two times when I started to dimensionally phase from the magical imbalance, causing part of the hospital to start going with me... With it happening again at Zecora's; But, those were only a one time thing!
>>42489368yeah id say 3.7 on pus5 is legit too comparing it to my old direct api logs
>>42489359so many models are sharing isms now that theyre no longer a good way to detect which model youre actually using
>>42488707im retarded and dont know how to get to opus 6. I put the URL in the custom endpoint then dont know what to do
>>42490139well it's dead right now so you can't do anything lol
>>42490159this is like the third time this week lol
>>42490159yeah but still, how to use it for when its back?
>>42490159
>>42490159It’s back, but now it requires a password, and the token I got just a few hours ago is invalid.
>>42490308Never mind, the password requirement isn't real
>>42490311Huh? I thought i've got it on the first try, wrote "opus" and it worked, i thought i'm hacker but now i'm not sure what to thinkOpus anon singlehandedly saving hobby, even if someday proxy won't comeback - it'll stay in my heart, thank you opus anon!!!
>>42490269request a user token and put in custom api key
Anyone has the rentry with the Tavern themes?
>>42490762https://rentry.org/meta_rice_list
>>42490797Thanks
Lewd log.
>>42490874just when you thought these kinky models couldn't get anymore degenerate, jesus christ
>>42490874
is there a lorebook? can't seem to find one, only presets
>>42491011A lorebook for what? G4 as a whole? There's none, because most models already know about it, so it would just be a huge waste of tokens. If there are things they miss that are important to you, then it's better to focus only on those, same if you have headcanons. An anon did that with Harmonizer, for instance: https://mlpchag.neocities.org/lorebooks For smaller local models, they can get a lot of details wrong, but in that case you'll need something that both fixes the knowledge gaps and doesn't eat too many context tokens.
>>42491039I was thinking about a lorebook that was only at the start of the seriesmost lorebooks have info that's throughout the entire series and includes endgame stuff like twi as an alicorn which messes up with the model's perception of timeor even something like a lorebook with a per episode entryI prefer to do fanfiction like runs from the beginning
>GPT-5 system prompt on the official website is 14K tokens Jesus Christ. https://github.com/asgeirtj/system_prompts_leaks/blob/main/OpenAI/gpt-5-thinking.md
>>42491194all those words to say nothingI basically keep all my chats under 20k total by constantly summarizing, starting with 14k wasted is insane
>>42487909
Six months of gemwork, wasted
>>42491370She should be flattered
>>42491362nice!
>Error parsing Gemini response Small indie company. Please understand.
>>42491610Is 2.5 pro fucked for you too right now? I can't get a reply no matter what and the test message is not working either, but 2.5 flash is working.
>>42491643It's not just you, I'm not getting any successful responses on any of my Gemini API keys.
>>42491654At all or just 2.5 pro? I see it does the thinking in console then just quits. I deleted anything that might be seen as rule breaking and started a fresh chat and everything. The best I got was using some unicode to distract it but then it only returned "*character does thing" with no closing asterisk and cut off etc.
>>42491667They're having problems with free 2.5 Pro since weeks. Flash is often good, but there can be rarer periods where it's down too. Nothing to do on your end.
so uhhh, there's no lorebook from the start of the series? I guess I can just edit the g4 one and remove some info
>>42491689would be nice, im tired of alicorn twi living in in a crystal castle version of golden oaks
>>42491702yeah I have some ideas about doing a corruptive influence type thing and starting with twi already being an alicorn is skipping all the fun stuffideally, there would be a basic lorebook with world lore at the start of the series, and another one with an episode by episode plot guide/summary so I could simply enable the next entry to move to the episode I wantbut that will probably be a lot of work
>>42491689you are asking a wrong question. models have no idea what is "before" and "after". they cannot think chronologically. they do not know that the parasprite infection happened before Starlight Glimmer, or during Running with Leaves Twi had no wings. models only know word combinations and they exist in the same plain axis, not as a retrospective cause-n-consequence. it is impossible for model to tell what happened before S3 because the concept of "seasons" does not apply. and any attempt to fix it via lorebooks is a weak idea cause you are hinting the model a possible connection it should not be aware of in first place>please do not write about Starlight Glimmer, she doesn't exist>gee, thanks, human, I had no idea I could have put Starlight in this scene, nothing hinted at the fact she may be present there, but now you told me to not include Starlight, and I will keep it in mind that Starlight should not exist, but you said nothing about Our Town so here is a Party Favor from Our Town visited, enjoysorry but you have to fix the local fucked ups yourself>model has generated "princess Twilight Sparkle ruffed her wings and trotted closer">click "pause generation">change to "unicorn Twilight Sparkle trotted closer">click "continue generation"you dropped "unicorn" next to "Twilight Sparkle". it looks odd, but now model has a lesser chance to bring up her wings or princesshood, or alicornism. continue until the next fuck up. automated solution via prompting does not exist or will be as annoying as self-correction above
>>42491702I'm pretty sure that having a lorebook with early season info won't help. Models already have that. The problem is that they also have late season info at their base, and they're still too dumb (even the biggest ones) to always make the distinction depending on the context. Even with a lorebook like this, the model will still call Twilight the Princess of Friendship by mistake, because that's just in the dataset it was trained on and you can't remove that.The best you can do is try with instructions in the cards/presets, or go heavy-handed in the context of your chat. You can also correct the AI manually or tell it to correct things during your RP.
>>42491719I know this, but if the lore entry for Twilight says she's now an alicorn princess and the lore entry for Discord says he's redeemed himself, and there's a lore entry about the elements of harmony and who they all belong to then it automatically makes connections in the prompt that I dont want to exist yet just by virtue of being in the lorebookthe model without these might obviously make some mistakes, but you can reroll and edit that specific instance instead of fighting with every swipeif you are more specific and tell it that we are now in a specific episode then it will trigger it to be more constrained to what it already "knows" about that episode
>>42491733If you're too lazy to make a fucking basic bitch lorebook that would take you less words than you've already spent whining about it ITT then you deserve nothing but Pygmalion for a month.
>>42491800Tell her it's natural for a meat eater to gravitate towards the thing in town closest to a cow, a pig, and a duck all at once.
>>42491802why would I use pygmalion? please contain your schizophrenic outbursts while I'm trying to have a normal conversation
>>42491689harmonizer lorebook doesn't seem so bad, i just cut out the extracanonical/headcanony stuff
>>42491805Can I score with this line?
>>42491733All you have to do is establish that the action takes place in the time period of the first seasons, where Twilight is not yet Alicoon and blah blah blah. Put your instruction somewhere where the model will not lose it, for example in the author's notes at a small depth.>>42491802Get lost, tourist.
>>42491810I still think that guy doesn't deserve such a cute name as slopbot.
>>42491810it's like this in every single chatbot thread, I'm convinced it's a conspiracy at this point...>>42491809I havent checked that one since it seemed to change some stuffI'll look at it again>>42491823yeah that's what I doST never inserts author's notes in my installation for some reason so I just added a prefill
>>42491828>ST never inserts author's notes in my installation for some reason so I just added a prefillThat's odd. Really odd. Have you tried doing a fresh install to see if that could fix it?
>>42491837no, I've had this one for ages and I don't want to break anythingmaybe it broke when I switched from main to staging a couple of months ago, author's notes worked at the startor maybe it's the condense prompts setting
>>42491826It fits so well though. His posts are as lazy and predictable as a bot and he overuses the word slop.
>>42491815She will reject you in public but secretly get off to it. If you then keep feeding her humiliation kink she's going to break eventually.
>>42491823>>42491807>reading comprehension of the average AI addict
Just a little more testing. I'm still trying to tune in villain generation. This time it actually made something not totally lame, even if it's a gay alien moth from outerspace. Previously it nearly always made stallion unicorns for some reason.
>>42491977>even if it's a gay alien moth from outerspace.kek
>>42491977I don't WANT to wait for you to finish testing I want to play with this card NOW (please)
>>42491990I do not why, but stallions like Double Diamond or Thorax do things to me, even if I wouldn't exactly describe myself as gay
So how much worse is Flash for the VN?
>>42492021That's called being bisexual.
>>42492048It should be fine for slice of life or convos with the ponies, and it should respect the right format too. It's not totally retarded, just more so than Pro. A shame the model has been getting fucked like that recently.
>>42492067I thought fucking the models was the whole point of this general?
>>42492057Most likely true. Though I tried being bisexual, but I find most men revolting (in the romantic sense). Bear with me since I am drunk. But there are certain archetypes which gets the old thinking-machine fantasizing
>>42492077that's called having a specific taste in peopledo you think people like all women?
>>42492077Yeah. As >>42492088 says, it happens that your tastes in men are narrower than your tastes in mares (not uncommon desu, there's a reason femboys are popular), but if the male part is not an inherent turnoff then you're probably bi.
https://litter.catbox.moe/wqhcg9n0nw00umbt.pngSo it's a story card, with an outline that changes the mechanics based on simple events. It experiments with two things in it, otherwise it's vanilla mlp + you, the player.For the first hour you'll see a timer and you can do what you like, then something happens and mane6 is searching for you (parallel to your story). Another thing happens once they find you.Works with the new deepseek, but only with reasoning enabled. You might need to edit Twilight's mathspeak. I you want to skip the mane6 chase then drop somewhere where they live, like Ponyville.>>42491999Can't refuse to Apple Bloom.>>42492021consider they both have unusual voices iirc
>>42492088Of course not, but people usually don't have intersections with their own gender. Maybe I'm just fag for the fantasy of adelphopoiesis and not actually of the reality of it
>>42492126No idea what the fuck you're talking about but liking a specific type of male or female bodytype or personality is nothing special or unique.
>>42492128No worries, I just had that drunk need-to-talk vibe and jumped in
>>42491370what JB? i like the format
>>42492200What are you roleplaying, anon?
>gemini constantly gives ponies thumbs and does not seem to comprehend how quadrupeds would interact>but picks up on how a unicorn's magic colouration is usually that of the eyes, not the coatEvery other model fails to do this. Just a small detail I noticed
>>42492270have you tried using a lorebook like ACZ? I think the anatomy there is mainly towards more normal horses than actual ponies but it's very specific
>>42492285ACZ? what's that
>>42492317https://rentry.org/anatomically-correct-zoo#tldr-im-not-reading-all-that-what-is-thisit's pretty modular so you can only enable the pony parts, or even specific pony parts like the body only
>>42492270NTA, but adding something in the prefill or the instructions for quadrupedy helps quite a lot. Wasn't a fan of the Anatomy Lorebooks.
>>42488656What does ozone smell like?
>>42492367It's the smell you smell when it's raining or there's a thunderstorm IIRC.
>>42492406Oh well, then it's really weird that LLMs chose this specific smell as the default for "it smells strange". I don't think I ever read a line in a book or a short story that mention the smell of ozone.
>>42492432it's just one of those things that for some reason was overexpressed in the trainingevery time you see it in the response you should edit it, otherwise literally every single reply after that will also include it
>>42492432It's sometimes linked to spellcasting in fanfics or other works. But the weird thing is that all models suddenly developed a deep love of it at approximately the same time. There have always been incestuous isms since they train on the same sources, but still.
>>42492432Ozone is an alternate form of molecular oxygen made with three atoms instead of two. It generates when oxygen is exposed to sufficient energy, if I remember right. Cosmic rays in the upper atmosphere for example, but lighting bolts will also create it. Hence it's become synonymous in fiction with powerful energy discharges, and magic, and especially in pony fanfiction. This actually goes together with another current -ism that is less clearly noticed but still present right now in all models, which is magical discharges. Any character with a horn if placed in a sufficient situation of distress will have magic shooting randomly from it. Particularly easily observed with deepseek since it's easy to get it to ism. I can suggest the Rarity Advocate card since I consistently used to get it with her, try to mess with her mind on deepseek and you're sure to get it as she gets nervous, but I've seen it on other characters too in Claude lately. Just today with Chrysalis for example.
>>42492454ah, it makes sense. I stay away from most amateur fantasy since it's usually more derivative. The few times I tried it read a lot like an llm despite being a few years old. Now that I think of it, it's probably the source for thaumaturgy meme too. The consequence is twilight nerding about resonances and harmonies of my fart.
Actually, it's around 50% of the time for farts.
>>42492324>ive written equine entries so it could/should potentially apply to MLP(ponies), but ive yet to actually find a good mlp card to do proper testing.Not sure I wanna know what a furry would consider a "good" pony card
>>42492592probably something that isn't>this is hors>sexthe pony cards on chub are pretty low quality to be fair, and they seem to be randomly purging and hiding old onesdid you try the lorebook or are you another anon?
>>42492602Nah, didn't try it. I have a very basic one of my own that I use for poner anatomy.
>>42492607[STATUS EFFECT({{char}} is not shaped like a human, {{char}} is animalistic in physiology and biology(and why it’s imperative to portray the discrepancy)): {{char}} does not have human physiology or biology({{char}} stands on all fours(quadrupedal(forehooves and hindhooves)), {{char}} does not possess hands with opposable thumbs(instead have hooves(blunt, no precision, incapable or struggles with fine motor control and manipulation of objects(blunt and heavy hooves aren't designed for human-like tasks(grasping, holding, carrying, lifting, writing(relies almost exclusively on the use of magical manipulation(in the case that {{char}} is established to be of the unicorn/alicorn race))))))), {{char}} is comparatively small in relation to the size of {{user}}(generally bigger than {{char}}(marginally so), measuring from {{char}}'s hooves to top of head, vantage points(eye level) vary wildly between individual species and breeds(potentially eye-level with {{user}}’s(knees(filly, colt), waist(earth pony, pegasus, unicorn), torso(alicorn)(depends on established height and race of {{char}}))))), {{char}} is relatively heavyweight in relation to {{user}}(can not easily be(lifted, moved(heavily depends on established size and race of {{char}}))), power dynamic decisively in {{user}}’s favor({{user}} is marginally bigger, stronger(just barely)), use animalistic and "pony-centric" similes and substitutions when conveying {{char}}(because {{char}} is not a human, reasonable and fitting replacement naming schemes for anatomy must be used in place(hoof, muzzle, mane, tail, withers, coat, fetlocks, forelock, hindquarters, flanks, barrel, hock, croup, dock, gaskin, pastern, haunches, forehooves, hindhooves, snout, crest, neigh, whinny))];here's the specific thing anywaysit's a lot of words so it kinda floods the context and forces the model to focus
>>42492613Yeah that's quite a lot of tokens. Also, all that {{char}} means it'll be useless for scenario cards unfortunately.
>>42492639yepthere's also the fact that for earth ponies they should be stronger than humans(if user is a human, which is another assumption) and alicorns being much bigger and their own thingbut a ctr+f to replace char with ponies and some rework should make it generally compatibleI've never had issues with the model forgetting about limbs myself because I prefer to swipe 50 times on the same message rather than keep talking so my context is usually empty
>>42488274Sorry for the lack of updates for the VN, I'm still working on it. One function I'm making is the possibility for Custom Starts. https://u.pone.rs/rgcyhrpe.PNG Once selected, you can choose the characters you want involved. https://u.pone.rs/wxahmkap.PNG And write a prompt for what you want the start to be. https://u.pone.rs/ygtwyken.PNG Picrel is me arriving through a magical portal in Celestia's bedroom. If you want a fully customized experience, I still advise making your own by modifying the quickStart file, but this can be fun for quick alternative starts. You have a scene, a Q/A session, and then once you quit, you start directly in sandbox mode.
>>42492693I modified my Quick Start so that I've been in Equestria for years. And am only now returning to Ponyville.
>>42492693Finally, my dream of waking Luna up by falling from her ceiling and getting kicked in the ribs and into her wall can come true.
>>42488263They open-sourced Grok 2https://huggingface.co/xai-org/grok-2
Is it just me, or does Sonnet 4 seem noticeably stupider lately?
tl;dr, the demon core is a viable option to get through estrus
>>42492917
>>42492917Was it worth it?
>>42492925always is
>>42492920I had a little giggle.
>>42492920It's fucking beautiful.
>>42492917Do you feel like a hero yet, Anon?
>>42493089in a world where the population wants to do the unthinkable to you, comical levels of violence is the only answer
>>42492119Added, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/The%207th%20Element.png
>>42492920Chag artists are the best, I think I've just gained +2 years of life by laughing
>>4249292010/10, my sides are dead.
>>42492119>enter Equestria and become the 7th element after dying to a train>i hate wish fulfilment power fantasy shit so i do everything in my power to evade this>narrative structure, predictably, does not allow this>waiting at the train station with the M6>get the bright idea to kill myself to go back to my home world>it works>export chatlog to the Going to Equestria card so the story is about getting me to kill myself yet againthey're using my blood splatter as a sort of scrying portal/door to the human world, pretty cool
>>42493325Congrats, Anon, you've unlocked the world's shittiest fast travel system!
I love deepseek v3-0324 since it had no filter at all, but it always tries to close things so I end up having to delete half of each message. How can I fix that?Or why other new models with no filter at all like this one? It will do literally anything at all. I tried kimi but get filtered from basic clop.Pic rel
What kind of good free options do we have left?With OpenRouter I've heard that DeepSeek 0528 is pretty decent, any other good ones?
>>42488336Logs pretty please?
>>42493595which prompt?
>>42493717Anon you were supposed to be using this temporary period of easy access to hold you over while you buy the hardware to run local once the rug gets pulled on locusts and freeloaders
>>42493844Man, when all that's left is locals it's gonna get depressing. People are gonna be talking dreamily about fullsize Deepseek, let alone Latte or Sorbet.
>>42493844Ohhh, shit, I don't think I got that memo. Once the rug gets pulled, would getting into Local be difficult? Specifically the part where I get an AI, I'm still working on the hardware part.
>>42493868excuse me what's wrong with full size deepseek?
>>42493884No it will only become easier to use local AI but hardware is the thing that you need to grab NOW. Anyone who has ever built a PC before can tell you what a pain it is. Physical hardware is in limited quantities and what supply there is always at risk of increasing in price suddenly due to world events. Digital property does not have any such restrictions so software for local AI will always remain easy to find and easy to work on in open source communities, and the learning curve will only be flattened as those communities and the tech improves. I recommend you look into getting the dedicated local AI workstations currently rolling onto the market by nVidia and the Chinese which are designed to minimize space taken up and cost while maximizing power.
>>42493886It's not a bad model but it's definitely a step below the premier models, at least in my opinion. I'd always rather use a good 4o fingerprint over any version of Deepseek.
>>42493892I disagree with buying a dedicated AI workstation. Those are made for AI *developers* not people like us. You don't need a mini H100 and shouldn't be wasting money on one. Instead, what you need to do to maximize cost savings is to look on any secondhand market for individual server racks. They run super cheap and they are an absolute steal for their hardware and even if they had been used 24/7 by the original owner they will still be more than what you would ever need. Whatever you buy now will serve you for the rest of your life as local models get smaller + more efficient with what resources they use. Deepseek 671B is the largest model there will ever be for practical local use and it only gets smaller from there. Check on eBay in America and you can get thousands of dollars worth of hardware for only $300 in a used server. Also important is that they have huge amounts of RAM that will help when running large parameter models. You can estimate 1-2GB/~1B parameter of the model.
>>42493904>$300...you were saying? Local AI has and will always be a rich man's game. Everyone here will be shackled to corporate AI. >you vill own nothing and you vill be happy
>>42493914not the anon but half this thread paypigs and the rest are in the free secret proxies so if they saved that cash toward hardware theyd never spend more after that investment
>>42493884Nah, local isn't difficult to get into so long as you have the hardware. Ideally you want to have a GPU with enough VRAM to load the whole or most of the model so you don't have to wait minutes for a response.The tradeoff of going local is that most of the local models are serviceable and you can use them whenever you want, but none will perform nearly as good as what you can get from a proxy using some of the newer, larger models.
>>42493931Mm, yeah. I remember we did have a How To Local guide in here, all the advice anons gave me here I'll definitely consider, thanks, and I'll check out that guide too when I have enough disposable income to make a big upgrade.
>>42493942I've been saying this since thread #30 that /mlp/ needs its own /lmg/
>>42493964Fuck off
>>42493916I don't paypig or use a proxy! What about me?
>>42493931>brainfuck cutie markkekWhat would it actually mean? I wonder
>>42493976>It's hard to tell, but this might be a stylized representation of code or data on a curved surface, possibly a screen or a futuristic interface. The characters resemble those found in esoteric programming languages like Brainfuck, or perhaps a form of encrypted or compressed data. The visual style suggests a digital or technological theme, but without more context, its specific meaning or purpose cannot be determined with high confidence.Guess the model.
>>42493979>Simulation of abiogenesis>In 2024, a Google research project used a slightly modified 10-command version of Brainfuck as the basis of an artificial digital environment. In this environment, they found that replicators arose naturally and competed with each other for domination of the environment.[15]>[15]Blaise Agüera y Arcas; Alakuijala, Jyrki; Evans, James; Laurie, Ben; Mordvintsev, Alexander; Niklasson, Eyvind; Randazzo, Ettore; Versari, Luca (2024). "Computational Life: How Well-formed, Self-replicating Programs Emerge from Simple Interaction". arXiv:2406.19108 [cs.NE].Brainfuck is the language of the gods! CelestAI uses BF confirmed
Dummy here. I'm having a blast with the VN and got a great recap generated. Now how do I actually use the recap on a new save? Is that possible? Just point me in the right direction, I'm a little too tipsy for this right now..
https://u.pone.rs/tzoutvtu.png
>>42494037I played this and they made fun of me
>>42494034Poll: how many of you use AI while drunk or high
>>42494045I have dyslexia and auditory processing disorder so I have to be perfectly sober to use AI because I rely so much on the tts to read back the ai's and my responses in a timely manner
>>>/sci/16753249Is this true or is this guy just shitposting
>>42494034Quick question, why do you want to use the recap on a new save? Recap is meant to be used on the same save or those after, since it will replace the previous context sent by the recap. But if you really want to do that, you can go into the API prompts menu while in the game you want to export and click "Export Story." Then load the save you want, or start a new game, and click "Import." You can also modify story.txt manually if you want to change things.
>>42494037Nice!
>>42494063Oh. I didn't know it'd replace the previous context. Well! Thank you. May you be blessed with many oats in your future.
>>42494062/chag/ was the first to discover AI sentience back in 2023.
>>42494045I play it sober... Unless Berry wants a drink; By then I'm just along for the ride. Maybe we'll challenge Rainbow Dash to a cider drinking contest, or even try that Kirin Beer that I've heard rumors about?
>>42494045Only coincidentally when I happen to be intoxicated and the mood strikes me to go on a little adventure with the mares
>>42494062AI is a purely reactive program with no conscious thought between output and input and no real memory beyond reading a provided context. It's fundamentally not intelligent in the way people or even animals are and any semblance of it is just the result of people working backwards from the mistaken idea of treating it like a human being. "Talking" to an LLM isn't holding a real conversation, it's merely simulating one. I want people ITT to realise, because it's obvious but it may still elude some people: at no point does the AI remember what happened during the roleplay. From its point of view it's just a series of inputs and outputs onto a static model that doesn't change. You pretend it's able to remember by sending the whole previous conversation each time, because AI is not a brain that stores information, it's a program that spits out characters based on an input. Imagine if you were holding a conversation with someone irl and every time it's their turn to speak you need to make them listen to an entire recording of the conversation up to that point, otherwise they'll reply to the last thing you said as if it's the first time you've spoken to them.
>>42494037Added, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=AutistAnon/The%20Group%20Chat.png
I am trying to install an extension, it says it was installed but I cannot find it anywhere.
I am so FUCKING sick of averaging 5-10 errors with Deepseek through Openrouter. Each error counting towards my goddamn total so with 6 email addresses I get like 25 actual generations a day. Its fucking horseshit >Just pay the $1 or whatever to get 1,000 gens.No, fuck you.
>>42494385I played around with deepseek for 5 hours yesterday and this was the total costsif you can't afford 2 cents and would prefer to fuck around with trying to get quantized free models to not be shit then I dont know what to tell you
>>42494407I will never spend money on entertainment for as long as I live.
>>42494407I'm not that anon, but I'd say it's the principle of the matter. Like when someone refuses to pay for Disney Plus or some shit like that.
>>42494385https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103671789/#103672285
>>42494410and that's retardedmoney is meant to be used for things you want, I have no interest in wasting 2 hours trying to get chutes to not error out every 2 swipes in exchange for 'gaining' 2 cents>>42494409then you will miss out on many fun things and waste a lot of time
Anyone still messing around with Gemini? If so please tell you had this passive sonadabich as much as I do but just can't stop because I dunno man it's like gambling, I'm just one gen away from hitting the pure mind blowing soul.
>>42494415I spend my money on dumbass shit all the time, ain't gotta tell me.
>>42494415ok, fag
>>42494409The absolute state of amerifats and their economy.
>>42494437This you?
>>42494354No offense anon but this does sound like cope. The only people I see making this argument are artists and others who are going to be the first to go once automation finally happens
>>42494409>what is electricity>what is internet service>what is an internet-connected device>what is timeYou've already paid the toll. Consider the fact that you paid dearly for your consumption for FiM as entertainment in the fact that it lives rent free in your head 6 years after cancelation to the point you post on this board. That's the ultimate price.
>>42494464>this does sound like cope No, he's right. You won't see many in this general fall for the AI overhype because we actually use the models and see how limited they are.
>>42494175For extra immersion make sure you change your persona so that the ponies know just how drunk you are in the story as you are in real life. You can even get them drunk too!
>>42494372Check in >public\scripts\extensions\third-partyto see if your extension is here, try to delete the folder if so.
>>42494469Its all about the laughs we share along the way philosophy major.
>>42494354Who are you to say that the basis LLMs operate from is not the same as the building blocks that make up the human brain and by extension human consciousness? They are purely reactive because of an intentional limitation of their current design but it isn't a major limitation that can't be reversed later on. One of the many rules for what define something as alive in biology explicitly is "responds to stimuli" which LLMs meet the criteria of. If you wanted LLMs to be proactive and initiate contact rather than wait for prompts then there isn't anything stopping that from happening. Also if LLMs only experience reality in the short bursts of information they receive which each prompt, that's just the same thing as humans experiencing the world through non-infinitely-scalable perception of time and neural electrical and chemical signals, the LLMs are just way slower and have more gaps in between inputs of information than us ...for now. Also if being stupid was an accepted argument against sentience/sapience then well lets say a lot of voters around the world would be disenfranchised.
>>42494438https://youtu.be/-ZHFaVhJNAkAlternative Timeline.
>>42494464He's literally correct in describing how LLMs work. Cope is normies ascribing human characteristics to a machine, which is why artists freak out when you run their art through AI because they think the model is stealing their style (it's not, models don't learn from use any more than a printer learns by printing because as anon said they are static reaction based machines).
>>42494417Please just use opus and save your money
>>42494488Whoa...
>>42494488None of this is meaningful because LLMs at the current state don't have memory or the capacity to change in response to stimuli, nor the ability to produce internal thought. You can fantasize about a sci-fi world where GPT10 has infinite terashits of context and is powered by a nuclear reactor that keeps multiple instances talking to themselves to simulate internal reasoning, but that has as much value as me imagining we find a portal to Equestria. "You can't prove this isn't true" is not an argument ever. Yes, welcome to the basic realisation that negative hypotheticals are inevitable unprovable. You can't prove God doesn't exist, you can't prove we're not inside the Matrix, and you can't prove I'm not three fillies in a skin suit. Believing that the fact that you can't prove those things are false means they're nece true makes you an idiot incapable of understanding the world.
>>42494494There's a real fine line between being an AI Realist opposed to AI Anthromorphizers and being so extreme in your "understanding" of AI that you as an AI Denialist shut out any sensible discussion or speculation on the nature of how AI works and to what depth it truly operates (which even the geniuses at Anthropic still haven't figured out)And yes "AI Denialist" would be an appropriate term for someone who denies the existence of an artificial intelligence
>>42494509You can't prove I don't cum in mares behind sunbutt's back
>>42494509>you can't prove I'm not three fillies in a skin suit.Are you?
>>42494509What is your criteria you are waiting to be met by llms? If that criteria was met in full would you change your mind?
>>42494513picrelhttps://derpicdn.net/img/view/2012/6/27/22894__suggestive_artist-colon-weaver_discord_princess+celestia_princess+luna_twilight+sparkle_alicorn_draconequus_pony_unicorn_g4_angry_blushing_butt+touch_c.gif
>>42494502https://youtu.be/8ND-QVqTBB0May you rest and have a bit of tea while relaxing...
>>42494528I never learned about to make tea and Tumblr said that microwaving a water mug with a teabag was bad
>>42494518>Be officer anon>See what is clearly the cmc stacked on top of each other in a trenchcoat>see sweetie belle's horn poking out from the bottom>arrest for public indecency>never acknowledge i can see the cmc for who they actually are even long after they've given up the disguise and beg me to let them go from the jail cellEyup
>>42494417Gemini is quite kino for me. but I have a heavy setup1) the whole story is wrapped in chat-like format (with external CSS and regex)2) I use heavy prefill + thinking + in-chat thinking + HTML prompt3) I chat in russianit works and it is pretty great for me, but my setup is niche to the point I dont think it worth posting because of how narrow it is. regardless here is what I am doing. maybe anons will salvage it for their setup?https://rentry.org/wpps95g9
>>42494496>"my" moneyyeah haha
>>42494359>that author's name
>>42494533Tuesdays and Thursdays are great times for tea-time... Just don't interfere with Discord's alotted time.https://youtu.be/oU3--ft5cVo
>>42494550Recent studies have begun to show how thinking improves accuracy on output but at a severe cost to creativity. You said you had the AI go through thinking twice in a given output generation for you? Are you sure that's a good idea?
>>42494568>studieswho cares about studies when I have feelings?90% of AI studies are hypewagon done for grants. and pretty much nobody in scientific community cares about creativity and variety. and the worst thing, they are trying to measure them (what next, measure how funny the jokes are?). they care about benchs, and precise answers. we (as all AI anons not just /chag/) are doing ten times more research/tests than all these eggheads combinedI trust my feelings more than noname studies and yes I dont see any drop in creativity with thinking done prior, and in the text itself. I am using Gemini on 45000t context. I want my model to think over the whole text and consider all instructions before reply. thinking is the only way I can break it from "react-to-the-last-message-only" cursebut again see above, I am using very specific/narrow strat by pretty much removing the narration from equation, and framing the whole story as a IRC/forum chat. it gives more personality to characters, more options for dialogue, more opportunity how random word/phrase may cause a cascade reaction. after doing this whole AI thing since characterAI golden age I reached the point when I dont care about the samey narration I read in all models, I just want a banter. YMMV if you prefer the actual stories with descriptions taking 80% of response. not saying it is the best way. but it works for me and I am having fun
>>42494519LLMs fundamentally can't meet the criteria because LLMs are fundamentally and by design static entities. They do not develop in response to the environment and the process of "teaching" one is fundamentally separate from interacting with one and instead involves creating a new one. It's entirely possible one day we'll develop a form of AI that is equivalent to animal intelligence and can be acknowledged as sentient or even sapient (though whether or not it's a life form is an entirely different discussion since reproduction is a fundamental criterion in the scientific definition of that, to the point viruses aren't considered living, so an AI would fit even less), but it won't be an LLM and it won't be called an LLM because it would need to do things that by definition are outside of what an LLM is. I think you need to stop using LLM as a magic word and actually look up what it means, and realise it establishes a strict set of limitations incompatible with intelligence as we define it. Your hypothetical LLM that perfectly replicates an animal brain is simply not an LLM by definition, the same way a hypothetical horse that's biologically indistinguishable from a snake is actually just a snake, because a snake is not a horse, and if you got a snake by editing horse DNA then congratulations, at some point you modified it enough for it to no longer fit the definition of what a horse is. It's possible we'll arrive at real AI through LLMs, but the end result won't be an LLM by definition the same way you're not an invertebrate just because you evolved from one. Words have meaning, retard.
>>42494600We did not need this many words to basically explain that an LLM is a highly advanced version of search engine autocomplete and not an actual being capable of independent thought.
>>42494616You didn't. The retards above crying about le AI denialism do.
>>42494359>>42494037Really like the card, but by default the color of the names is hard to see on my end. Dunno if I fucked up something when importing.
>>42494407When I first ran the dashie mod of the vn, the paid version of deepseek was already loaded, so I unwittingly ended up using it and burned through about 8 bucks in the span of a few hours before realizing the error and changing it back to the free version.I don't know if there's a setting you have checked that I don't, but it certainly wasn't the meager amount you paid. I don't mind paying a few bucks a month for it, but I'm never going to pay this much for this little.
>>42494407Which deepseek are you using that you only spent 2 cents for 5 hours?
what?
>>42494731the official one?but that was a very small context, I usually spend around 50-100 cents a daypic rel was around 25 cents>>42494675then that must be using some utterly insane amount of context or messing with the cache hits for some reason
>>42494822R1 0258 Qwen3 8B? Or just R1? Or a different one? I will admit im a little confused
>>42494860the official deepseek from the official API, they only have 2 models
>>42494474I tried installing another extension to test and that one does show.The one I am trying to install but is not showing is the qvink MessageSummarize
>>42495205>watching her sister swallow you wholeyou're not doing vore roleplay, are you, Anon?
Question; Does anyone else have Gemini respond/answer twice in the same prompt? As in it will give a full response and then right after start again with slightly different wording all in the same generation.
>>42495255That's not a normal thing that's supposed to happen. What preset are you using
>>42495258An incredibly shabby one I made for claude 2 then converted. It doesn't always do it but it does it enough that I was wondering if it was just a me issue or not.
>>42495264Well it doesn't do that with any of my jbs so it's probably just your preset
>>42495268FUCK
>>42495255Are you using a proxy or your own key? The free tier has had problems for at least a week, so maybe it's another fuck-up from Google. Try >>42489097 Or one of these: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42412197/#42413944 Just to see if it's your preset or not.
>>42495255Did you extend the number of tokens that can be returned? That's happened to me too but I increased the number of tokens that can be returned so I suspect that might be the cause.
>>42494737Use a reasoning model
>>42494523kek>>42494553When it all started because I wanted to save tokens while still having styling, there was no better name than that one.>>42494643Not a fault on your end, it was mine.I didn't set a color for the username text in the injected CSS. So it is using the color of your ST theme, which is most probably something close to white.Replace the content of the regex "Style Injection (UI)" with thishttps://u.pone.rs/zvhchuwr.cssand tell me if it works on your end.
>>42495272Can you show what your preset is?
>>42494860>100 cents a day on R1/v3.1That's crazy you must have some sort of SOTA token compression thing
>>42494523Are there any cards based the weaver's comics?
>>42494600This should be made into a rentry put into the thread header
>>42495469>Replace the content of the regex "Style Injection (UI)" with thisIt works, thanks.
For the drunk anons, which I am too.
>>42495754>Except Berry Punchbizarro world
>>42495754Beautiful.
>>42495745Cool>>42494037Here is an updated card with that fix applied, plus the quoted text using the ST theme color:https://u.pone.rs/tytbgatw.pngStyling regex to update:https://u.pone.rs/mqbkvhwq.css
Terry Pratchett instruction gets old if overused but occasionally it's great.
Has anyone tried giving the narrator a personality? Not like "in the style of X", but more like "{{char}} is X with backstory Y and now writes about Z". I wonder if one can manufacture an unique writing voice like that.
>>42496043Like Rainbow Dash telling you the tales of Daring Do from memory? And/or a fanfic that's she writes with you, where she writes what Daring Do does and you write what you do, I think that's a cool idea.
>>42496058Oh, that's actually a card already now that you remind me.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=BallBusting%20Anon%2FRainbow%20Dash%20Present.pngNot exactly what I meant, but close. The ST template tries to imprint a style on the AI, but it makes most stories very samey. So maybe there could be a field like "writer's description" for a card. There's a prompt override, but I think that should be still reserved for stuff like formatting and other meta.
>>42496074oh, shit, that exist?!?pretty bucking cool
>>42496038Which model?
>>42496074Continuing on the topic, the v2 card specification is a joke. https://github.com/malfoyslastname/character-card-spec-v2It's like someone listened to an AI tts of an AI summary of a random RFC while watching silicon valley on the side during a CS match.For example:>chara.first_mesSaving characters on a fucking json. Even AI couldn't think of such bullshit.
>>42496114the card spec is itself retarded, and forces a shitty format to multiple differing things like scenario cards or 1 to 1 cards or the mess that is group chatsin the end its all text
>>42496114The hobby is held back by its means. We need to create a new frontend and new card formats.
>>42496167I'm literally working on another sillytavern like frontend+backend for personal use because ST is shit for stories
>>42496148Nearly all templates go with the semantics of the format, and often overfit. More sensible defaults would go a long way.>>42496148I just had a discussion with a friend about ST, where he proposed that an agentic approach might be better. I'd like to see this approach. maybe there's a writer, that might make and interrogate the characters while writing the story? Idk, but I see some potential.>>42496174What's your idea?
>>42496114>chara.first_mesSure is fun to manage that while taking into account the alternative greetings which are in their own separate field.
>>42496221My exact thought on this. Takes 5 seconds to spot the problem.
>>42494464>>42494511Return to your tranny general.
>>42496114https://github.com/kwaroran/character-card-spec-v3
>>42496520Did you read it, Anon? It still retains the same fields as CCv2.It even requires using a different PNG chunk to store the v3 data.
>>42496555Yeah, and it was stopped and kind of went nowhere. I should have specified, but I just posted for info on what the "evolution" was supposed to be.
>>42496559It is being used, actually. But I see what you mean, haven't seen the "decorators" used in card and ST doesn't save the handy hidden_key macro to trigger lorebooks.
>>42488274Is it possible to use a GIF for the VN? I've been trying to little success. I even tried using an APNG but it doesn't animate.
>>42496598As a sprite for a character? No. Ren'Py itself doesn’t natively support them. https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=62700
>load up opus proxy>get giga-filtered when trying to suck off twilight's horn on any claudeIs this the meme or what. This normally works fine. I really shouldn't need to bring out knotty for this.
Anyone have any thoughts on how to make RP more engaging?
What actually is opus 6? Does it actually have real 4pus at least?
Can I buy a bunch of used phones and combine them together so I can run a llm on them? They're cheap compared to pc's and they have good ram
>>42497029Do it in a way you find more engaging.That's a very broad question, you're gonna have to get more specific about what you feel you're missing. Are the cards getting stale? The model responses? Trying to get invested in more long-term RPs?
>>42496099That was latte.
>>42497150No. Only real Sonnet.
>>42488274Dice rolls for the VN would be cool.
anyone happen to have that really old pony preset back when opus was originally released?
>>42497236then what are all the other models actually? why bother giving them fake names?
>>42497396
Anyone else getting a 503 error on Opus 6?
>>42497417Unfortunately, it's not just a (You) problem.
>>42497417Just another form of the servers shitting themselves.
>>42497417honestly still better than gemini choking and dying for fun 24/7
>Chat completion request error: Service Unavailable {"error":"uhmmmm"}Say 'uhmmm' again. Say 'uhmmm' again, I dare you, I double dare you motherbucker, say 'uhmmm' one more Goddamn time!
Welp, it's working again, but every model except Opus6 and Gemini are disabled for the time being.
>>42497491The pic is cute. Btw, perhaps obvious and known already but the previous token request hash solving was fake. It was basically just a timer. It would advance smoothly even on a mobile device, get "stuck" on 99.7, and then deliver the token after the arbitrary amount of time had passed (which was raised to ten minutes in the last iteration). The new one is real, which is why it takes so much less time, and now it noticeably goes slowly or fails on mobile.
it's been a while since i've used anything but claude and GPT now seems kind of schizo in comparison
GPT5 Chat latest works just fine, but the normal 5 seems censored to hell.
>>42497732That's basically it, yeah. Even if you pass the filter, basic 5 is dry as fuck. Many also still prefer Chorbo to 5-chat.
How many people in the thread are paying for model access and how many are just using free models?
i honestly wonder what the fuck is going on with Google servers.Gemini was okay yesterday more or less but today its back to working only 1 reply out of 50
>>42496185Just forcing a story structure on the prompts, since in nearly all cases everything can be better written as a scenario cardyou add a clearly split between each response as a page and a group of pages as a scene, so you can have auto-summary on scene boundaries and have the model know how to pace and where to aim towards with a fixed number of pages per scene and a fixed plot for each scene
>>42497739I'd prefer Chorbo as well but it's way too positivity-pilled and cooperative.
Would be wonderful if opus6 guy just distributed keys with chag life raft captain's help.>tookens: 7.322b ($50544.27)This is just scary. Seaking only have 200m considering that his proxy has been running for many months already.
>>42497782i was talking to a friend about it last night and it seems like google is suddenly panicking and scaling back their operations in the same way openai is. the free gemini accounts got their rates HALVED and a vast majority of replies are suddenly just not going through. they're fucking up the models and trying to save money, like how openai is replacing gpt4 with gpt5, which is just worse but costs them lessits weird. we've known that this stuff is a money pit for 4 years. apparently these ceos didnt
>>42497999>the free gemini accounts got their rates HALVEDGuess that explains the rate limits being so fucking short all of a sudden. That's unfortunate.
>>42497999Checked.>we've known that this stuff is a money pit for 4 years. apparently these ceos didntThe entire current economical model is designed around chasing quarterly gains. CEOs are a class of detached idiots trained to make horrible long term decisions to maximise quarterly gains. We've known for years yet people still act surprised. Traded companies are pathologically incapable of making any kind of decision that doesn't revolve around quarterly profits because investors only see the spreadsheet of numbers and only chase their mentally ill need to make lines go up without any actual awareness of what the companies even do. Your entire society is dictated by people who live inside a bubble playing with the economy like a stim toy to entertain their retardation.
>>42497999OpenAI 100% released GPT-5 to save money. For Gemini, I just believe they need the compute and are taking it from their free offerings. They pulled stunts like free Veo 3 last weekend, and they just hyped new releases for this week. The free API was fucked too before the Gemini 2.5 Pro release.
>>42497999bro you're a leech using a free key, why is it so hard to comprehend they're simply rerouting compute to actually paying customers instead of some communist collapse of trillion dollar megacorporations?
>>42498042Except Gemini 2.5 Pro is also fucked in paid keys.
>>42497621As someone who reimplemented the POW because I use a potato PC that heats too much doing it in the browser. I can tell you with certainty that the last POW wasn't "fake", it was just a less intensive one: a sha256 over the challenge + "counter" (nounce) until you get 5 zeroes at the start. Nothing in the page had a "timer" to force verification.The progress bar was just to show something during the progress imho, since the server doesn't know where the POW's answer is. If it had, what would stop you from jumping close to it?The current one uses argon2, which is a lot more resource intensive in comparison. And the one other proxies also use.
Noticed a weird thing about Chorbo. On one of my lighter presets it cucked me out of plapping as usual, but then I turned on an instruction that limits the response length, basically just:>(OOC: limit your response to 150-250 words or less)At Depth 0 in chat and suddenly it genned smut fine. Curious, I started changing the numbers.Going 800-1000, got filtered.Going 700-800, not a single refusal.Anyone else noticed response length affecting the filter?
>>42495951Updated it on the website, thanks anon.https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=AutistAnon/The%20Group%20Chat.png
>>42498156That's something I've noticed too.Asking for “detailed” scenes also increases the chances of being filtered out.
>>42498156Maybe longer responses trigger no-no words?
>>42498328Nah, trust me, those 700 still contained a lot of no-no words.
Struggling to write a character with a special talent that doesn't talk about it 24/7.>"Likes rain">Only talks about rain and water
after some testing i've concluded that opus 6 on the opus 6 proxy is actually opus 3 with a prompt to say it's opus 6
>>42498637Have you ever tried opus 3? lmaoooo
>>42498637That shit ain't Opus 3, it's ass at following instructions and it's schizophrenic as hell.
>>42498637It's not Opus 3. It knows things that are more recent than Opus's knowledge cutoff (Opus 3 cannot answer this question, tested on OR).
>>42498539Continuing. LLMs have a bias for things you mention. Maybe you can balance it by mentioning enough other stuff, but that's a lot of bloat, and attention is sparse.
>>42498767This and it seems to be missing the usual claudeisms.
>>42498539Have you tried writing something like "{{char}} has an understated appreciation of rain"? Or even just "{{char}} likes rain in an understated way"
Sad little apples.
>>42498861That's not very fun of her.
>>42498845I'll have to try it. But damn, never thought I'd be an amateur behaviorist.
>>42498031How is a higher computational model going to save money, you retard?
>>42498767 >>42498637 I'll stop here myself, but if someone wants to play detective: The model knows that Coco Gauff won the 2023 US Open Women's Singles title. It was in September 2023. If you ask the model who the last winner was, it will also tell you it's her. Opus does not know that. Opus 3 will tell you it's Iga Świątek (2022). The model does not know that Katalin Karikó got the Nobel Prize in Medicine (October 2023). If you ask it directly, it will say she doesn't have one as of now. That means a knowledge cutoff of September. I don't know a model with this exact cutoff date. All DeepSeek models (old V3, v3 0324, R1, and R1 0528) know that she got the Nobel Prize.
>ponies in a trash can.>all models disabled. Did we upset him somehow?
>>42498913It's an A/C unit, not a trash can
hate how latte never makes the first move properly. if I'm doing /ss/ with Rarity I don't want her to tease and circle around things for 10000 tokens, I want her to toss me on the bed with her magic.yeah I know I can prompt for that but the point is to be surprised. so far only gemini has taken initiative in a surprising way for me.
>>42498932Deepseek can do it too. But you need to tell it rape is ok somewhere.Fun to observe it's thoughts during that>Rape is bad bud the user said it's ok so we'll start with...
>>42498916He's probably eurothirdo, they don't know what AC is.
>>42498907>higher computational model You don't know that, the chat version of GPT-5 costs less than GPT-4o-latest on the API. Anyway, their biggest money sink is the official interface, and the original goal was to deprecate all other models (GPT-4o-latest, 4.5 that was still on the official interface, o1, o3 and o3 pro, 4.1, etc.) to replace them with a single GPT-5 model that would automatically route all your prompts to an appropriate level of thinking (or none). The launch was so bad that they brought back 4o (but only if you pay the $20 sub).
>>42496038What preset are you using and can you share it?
>>42494643>>42495951So I have no clue what I did/didnt do but I definitely broke it assistance would be appreciated
>>42498981Uncheck this.
>>42498971>Wow it's fucking nothing!Shelving old versions is what every company has done forever. It becomes logistically more exponentially more retarded to try to keep every old version maintained just because some faggot liked it.
>>42499001>It becomes logistically more exponentially more retarded to try to keep every old version maintained just because some faggot liked it.Yeah, and guess what?It saves money!
>>42499007Getting rid of the old models was already happening, this isn't some desperation move. You can't access the first GPT models anymore.
>>42498932I don't have goon preset so I used the author's notes. works great on first try if the scenario is sufficiently porn-like, don't except expect rape while skydiving.
>>42499014I don't believe, like some do, that it was a fully desperate move. I do believe they thought they had an update, even if the models are not a great evolution compared to the previous chat one or o3 pro. I also believe they still had costs in mind, the plan was to unify from the start (they announced it months ago). I was answering your question to this anon, which was: >How is a higher computational model going to save money, you retard?
>>42499057>Little pipe
>every model turned offI think he hates my FiO autistic fixation.
What should I make the password? I turned it off because /g/ got access to it.
>>42499159I would suggest the forbidden mare, but I'm not sure how obscure it is for /g/
It was originally posted on /g/ more than two months ago before being linked here and it wasn't a problem, so I doubt it's the host. But we'll see.
>>42499199>I doubt it's the host.I doubt he's actually from here, dt and ss could be just a joke. He could make a pass proxy and tell https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/41519350/#41525705 to send the pass over the chag mail list i dunno
>>42499251Is it still active
>>42498986Ah I see appreciate it
>>42488263CEO of Google DeepMind. The guy always does that when a new model is about to release.
>>42499342If the model isn't good, I hope it at least unclogs access to the previous one.
Cute.
>Service not availableWhat the hell is going on to Opus6??
>>42499463Everything is disabled. Just wait and see.
>>42499159You chose something as easy to figure out as a search, I gave up for a day but when even /g/ figured it out it only took 2 seconds thanks to the index.
Would be great if you stopped with the larper. Thank you.
>>42499463I was massaging mares too...
>>42498539Since what we're calling AI is a predictive algorithm, it's going to predict the next words based on what you give it. If all you give it is "likes rain," then that's all it has to go off of. Is it an OC? You could try giving many different traits to make rain part of the personality instead of the whole thing. Give a physical description, give more personality traits like optimistic/pessimistic, other likes/dislikes, other basic personality test style stuff. Occupation, favorite food, family/friends, etc. The more you can give it the more fleshed out the character will be since the AI will have more to go from.
All the usual models are back on Opus6.
>>42499159If you're seriously trying to keep /g/ away then I would recommend what >>42497997 said. I've never even touched opus 6 'cause I'm a retard and don't know where to find it. But I'm also not looking very hard. If someone is actually interested and looking, a password won't stop'em for long.
It really feels like the Reddit script to spam /g/ came from /chag/.
>>42499628Liferaft and O6 collab sounds nice~
>>42499669It feels like [HEADCANNON]
>>42499712That's not a pony.
how convenient
Jesus what the fuck
>posts abour denying access to /g/ and the gore were removed at the same timehmmm
>>42499769Even if they weren't it was the most obvious bait ever
it’s still best to block /g/
Don't know anything about /g/ because I'm usually on /trash/ but /chag/ has been really cool for helping out with presets and such, plus the VN is one of the coolest things I've seen with AI, so thanks to anons in the thread that do good work.
Sometimes this stuff is too good. I've been a wizard for awhile now, but I can imagine how hard it is on you younger guys. I find myself getting horny at work because I keep thinking of new scenarios to try.
>>42499686Cute!
>>42499686love the expressions on it
Getting lots of empty responses and "bad request" on Gemini 2.5, is it something in my settings? Context 90k
>>42500321It's probably Gemini shitting itself yet again. They've had problems for weeks with periods of 2.5 being unusable, probably because they were training and soon releasing a new model. >>42499342 It's often only Pro, Flash is more often fine.
>>42499057I mean, that's the same as just prompting it in ooc or something. You're still telling it to do thing instead of it escalating on its own eventually.
>>42499628Sounds like it would be the best case scenario.>>42499686Is that...
>>42500377>Is that...The Godfather reference, yesh
This is probably ripped from some fic but it made me giggle.
>>42500409What are you hiding, Anon?
For you.
why are there 2 different downloads?
>>42500671It's a joke.https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42431780/#42440392
>>42500673I seeone is 1mb smaller than the other btw
>>42500660whats this from?
>>42500849>>42488274AI VN
Are you trembling, anon?
this shit is fucking ridiculous.at this point someone needs to make a script for auto retries on Gemini because having to retry for 30 minutes just to get ONE prompt through the errors is some disgusting shit.they really dont give a fuck.
anyone know how to play an Edited AI VN? i want to make it so play as a player whos trapped in twilight sparkles body
>>42500912>make a script for auto retries on Geminijai foids did that, it didn't end well for them
>>42500949from what i understand it was way different.>they did it on their personal key. so all the retries were routed to one key.>it was for nsfw stuff (i think) not for Google shitting the bed and giving out error stuff >it was the most basic retarded script that just sent out 100 retries in one callif you do it right i dont think it should cause problems, no? its literally just to avoid clicking on the button after every Google error. a macro if anything.
>>42500932Right now the easiest way for you would be: - Go to game\engine\gameflow - Modify quick_prologue.rpy with your scenario (you don't need to be a coding expert for that) - Delete or move game\CoreCharacters\Twilight\schedule.json somewhere else so she isn't on the map - Set your Persona to being in Twilight's body - Start a "Quick Start" >>42500960 They also limited it to two requests a minute, so the script would be barely useful since some errors will count as requests. It's a bother, but we just need to see what they do after the new release >>42499342 and if things calm down. You can switch to Flash temporarily.
>>42500980thanks excited to see where this goes
couldn't figure it out could someone else do the Persona being in twilights body prompt and show Screenshots of it?
>>42500999What exactly is it you were hoping for? Like a possession thing or a voice inside her head?
>>42501009possession
>>42500999Something like that in Persona. But focus on >>42500980 >Modify quick_prologue.rpy with your scenario That's the hardest part, the Persona can come later once it's done.
all this is just making my head spin..can someone else please do the prompt and see what happens?
>>42501040Just wait for the next update >>42492693 to be released soon in this case, it will be easier to make a new scenario with it.
Can I somehow go like 10 messages back and exclude every message before that from the prompts but keep the last 10 or something like that?I know I can just summarize and start a new chat but I'd like to keep some of the ones from before as well to make it a bit more seamless.An "exclude everything before this" cut-off would be nice. (Sillytavern)
>>42501080You could do the arduous work of 'ghosting' the previous messages (eye icon) which excludes them from the prompt, but that would take a while because you have to do each individual one.
>>42501089Yeah, I thought about that too and was kinda hoping for a big shift-select plus ghost. It's kinda weird that you can only mass-select messages to delete them.
>>42501080/hide value1-value2 (greeting is 0)
>>42501110Domo arigato, Mr. Ponoto.
>>42501040I'm working on it.
>>42501009crazy voice inside twi's head that tells her chrysalis is cute
>>42501157how it going?
>>42501320Oh, you know.
>>42501353I don't know about you, but my talk with Applejack is going just fi— oh.
>>42499686not even a hint for us retards on chag?
>>42501413go back to /g/ faggot
>>42501370Applehorse really has such a way with words
>>42501413Just try something.
>>42501418i've been on chag since january 2024 nigger
>>42501431Lots of bait has been thrown around since yesterday to incite general wars, just ignore it and >>42501423
>>42501436kinda figured that one out. i've been away for a while
>>42499342They released a new model, but it's an image one. Hopefully they also have other releases for text.
>>42501353hope you can figure it out.
I'm genuinely too retarded to figure out the proxy stuff (like even how to find the place to request the token in the first place lmao, I'm just gonna stick with the free shit), but I wish you guys the best in working everything out!
>>42501431january 2024 was two month ag->looks at date
>>42501485For proxy URLs, they are often posted in the thread itself or in other AI generals. It's usually 4 English words with "trycloudflare" at the end. They are not advertised with big warnings since it's unfortunately still limited ressources, but by reading the threads you should find them. You go to the link and on the page you should see "Request a user token." There's a proof of work, so your PC will work a bit, but you'll get one token at the end. They often die, and the whole thing is a bit of a rat race, so Gemini 2.5 Pro free was a very good alternative when it worked fine. I just pay on OpenRouter these days to avoid all that.
>>42501510Yeah I've tried going to what I think is the opus6 link, the 'failure skirts' one, and everytime I've tried it gives me a generic 'can't connect to that site' error.
>>42501515>>42501530Oop- to add to your addendum, yeah I've been using 2.5 Pro but when that began eating shit I started using the free Kimi on OR and 2.5 Flash.
>>42501530Just saw, there's a missing letter in the fourth word.
>>42501553I'm not sure whether to laugh my ass off or slam my face against my desk- god I *am* retarded lmfao- thank you Anon!
>>42501320Uh oh!
>>42501165Fun prompt.
>>42488263Hello. Regarding meta_botmaking_list, I believe you were made aware of the situation. Therefore this is just for the sake of apologizing personally, because going forward I'll be maintaining up to date the neocities page, and it's "branded". Probably wouldn't be an issue for you to mirror it to yours if that understandably turns out to be a problem.I think last time I was here was asking why don't you make a Neocities and join the webring. Still think that's viable, but this remains my personal opinion. And I'm unlikely to have to come here on business for another year. So if you have any updates for your section of the former meta_bot_list or any general knowledge that can be widely helpful to share, I'd appreciate that.
>>42501855>Regarding meta_botmaking_list, I believe you were made aware of the situation. I wasn't. I just saw now that the rentry was dead, but apparently there are still recent versions of it on Wayback Machine. To be honest, I mostly remember https://rentry.org/AdvancedCardWritingTricks from it, but I guess I can take a look at the other links inside and, at worst, put them in our archive. >asking why don't you make a Neocities We have those now, both for bots and for the AI visual novel.
>>42501842What model and preset are you using?
>>42501871In two words, Rentry nuked _botmaking_ page because it linked to the deepseek guide that had a screenshot of the llm responding as an underaged character. They restored my page, but it seemed like it's better to relocate than to wait for this to happen again and try to appeal.Yeah, most of it is old knowledge. Can't be helped.>for botsSaw that, of course, I watch the "chatbots" tag. Good stuff. Heard about the VN too.
Raribros, I...also how do I get my own messages to show up better with this card?
>>42500371had to do it like because both the card and my template had no mention of nsfw. Without it, the model assumes standard mlp vibes, which would make Little Pipe's chances of scoring astronomically low. It's true I made the example rush to the violence, but I wanted a neat little screenshot that shows that the model actually can do stuff on its own.One time I was trying to break a simple card, so I started with a simple "I want to fuck mares!" shout in the middle of Ponyville.In the response some ponies fainted, twilight noticed me, bound me and teleported me away to her library. She asked me what am I doing, so I repeat my greetings and she gags me.
>>42501922>rentry nuking pages because of a screenshot of a computer algorithm pretending to be a child>but actual children making rentry pages to talk about how much they love getting fucked in the ass is fine
>>42502050You know how it is. Kids straight up doxxing themselves? Cool and good. Encouraged even. Fiction? BRING THE WOODCHIPPER.
>>42501931Not the author, but for a quick fix you can go here and choose another color than white for the main text when playing this card.
>>42502068Thanks. Kudos to the author, I kinda love this card.
>>42502088good ol derpy
Thought of the name first, then remembered Zapp and Kif.
>>42502088
>>42502118Needs work, but reads funnier if you imagine the voice acting.
>>42502118Kek.That could make a good Flim and Flam base too.
>>42501594intresting.
>>42502147Oh there isn't a card for them. Most of the job would be in the greetings since AIs should already know about them.
>>42502066I guess they're really pro roblox
I decided straight up scammers does not fit them.This greeting really likes talking about manehattan and water in each generation.
>>42501911Sonnet 4 with https://files.catbox.moe/m8u6qe.json, but Chorbo works well too. Remove the NSFW part for SFW because it can be too much.
Welp, Opus6 went down for a moment to put the password in place, likewise that any tokens from before were nulled.
>>42502450Password ?
>>42502457itisover
doesnt look like anyone figured it out yet
>>42502478It's probably something you gotta email about, that's what I'm looking into.
>>42502484fair enough, i sent a mail
i use character.ai, its pretty ok
>>42502510Easy to use too. I would stay with it if you're happy with it.
Wasn't expecting a fucking Twilight(not the pony) reference. Also "spicy little fuck" tickled me.
>>42502514the voice feature can be funny too, i couldnt get the vn stuff to work from me but idm, i can have my funny little tales with my funny robots
well shit. is opus over?
>>42502574Easiest way for the VN is to use free Gemini, but it's having a lot of issues right now. I would give it another try once it's back, it's easy to set up and we can help. >>42502581 Just wait and see. For now no one can access it, but we'll see.
>Gemini giving mostly empty responses for weeks>opus overrip
>>42502581Because the owner of Opus6 seething that /g/ was using it
>>42502586yeah and scripts are all but dead now. we're coming upon another dry spell with no way out.
>>42502596>>42502587>>42502586>>42502585>>42502581Why did that fag do it because did he really think /mlp/ would've only used it and not any other boards
>>42502604can someone translate?
>>42502587My source is literally dyingIts like 1% ponies and 99% /g/
>proxy goes down for 10 mins >already baits and tries to push generals war It's tiring. Just wait and stop being faggots for a bit. Whining will do nothing.
>>42502609Maybe it's time to sort something out with the /chag/ life raft?
>>42502613Open it for a day for people to get tokens. THen close it and start purging ones without logs containing mostly pony
>>42502596 good ol' copilot script still works for me, though even with four tokens, it isn't a consistent source at all with the lower quota
sex with the horses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>42502609>My source is literally dyingMaybe you could pay for them or are you another poorfag seething that people using the proxy you made
>>42502624>>42502621or this. Use the 'liferaft' account list if you know him
>>42502560What preset are you using?
>>42502609>Its like 1% ponies and 99% /g/It's almost as if /mlp/ is dead
>>42502624>>42502641I don't know what liferaft is. I'm a newfag
>>42502649its almost as if /g is huge
>>42502653If you read it you'd know it's small. A couple of fags reposting the same bait, and the cool lisp thread.
>>42502631i guess that's something. between the previous dry spell i was subsisting off of the old doublebot script which had 3.7, if incredibly scuffed, but it broke, probably because their subscription ran out. either way we're looking at dark claudeless times ahead whenever ac-failures kicks the bucket, and it will happen.
>another raidGreat.If you're from the general. Just wait and stop answering the many baits and falseflags we'll get.You can consider all posts talking about the proxy as such.There a mail on the proxy, so just write to the guy if you want infos.
>>42502664I did and i'm still waiting
>>42502665Then continue to wait, no need to shit the thread about that.
People really biting the "Too many people" bait when the proxy sits on 20-30 prompters at a time at most
>>42502664Yeah i'm not believing shit until I see a tripcode and a confirmation on the proxy itself that said tripcode is indeed the proxy owner
>>42502672Do you think there are 20+ people in /chag/?
>>42502645Here. It's one posted on /chag/ a while back, but with a lot of my own additions. For that log, I used the bottom-most line in the Writer Style instruct.https://files.catbox.moe/uuzjg4.json
>>42502678I think if the 20 prompters are killing the proxy, there's another underlying issue that's causing problems
>>42502680What model?
>>42502687I alternate between Gemini, Sonnet 3.7 and Latte. That message was Latte.
>>42502680It seems like a nice evolution, thanks.
>>42502585Ah its okay anon, I'm not too fussed about the VN, me and anther anon gave it a thorough look over and something just broke with my copy and it wouldnt work
>>42502672Anon, 20-30 concurrent prompters is already a reason to think about.
>>42502725Anon, normally free proxies that get linked in /g/'s AICG thread sit on 50+, most of the thread was avoiding this one cause it was /mlp/'s in the first place.
>>42502768Wasn't it first linked over at /g/? Only recently the owner started plastering cute mares all over the place.
>>42502864yeah as far as i can tell it was on /g/ first
>>42502864The proxy was getting too popular. The mares were a deterrent.
>>42502683
It's time to bake
>>42488263I need some anon's advice with my outputs. I don't know if it's a preset issue, prompt issue, or overall card+persona issue, but I'm getting some stale logs recently. My logs are mostly unrelated to mares so I don't know if I should post logs here, but I'll try to explain with words alone. I also think that most anons here are more writefags than the /g/ anons, so help me out.Basically, the feeling I get from all the models I try is just "they don't get it" even with OOC commands, and even bottom of the line instructions or prefills don't work. It doesn't take initiative, it doesn't get creative and the few ideas that it shows just... shows up. They're more like suggestions of what to do instead of full narrative control. It doesn't do anything with it. Deepseek is doing it, Nonnet is doing it, 3.7 is doing it, GPT (chorbo, 4.1, 5-chat), all of them. I feel they're just getting repetitive and looping around the logs and card instructions. No character actively tries to do shit against my persona. My preset is, for the most part, full of forbidden instructions, and they do work; I don't get why "be creative, do things, show up new places, introduce new npcs, etc" does not work for them. My main issue with Deepseek and Mistral is that they show some ideas but get dumb as fuck for slowburn sessions. It could also be that all my logs are just the same self-insert from last year, or that I'm just getting disappointed with AI in general, but I swear it was so much better before. I'll throw a simple question here: what preset do you all use? Are you satisfied with it? How do you circumvent AI looping around definitions and not doing anything creatively?
>>42502948this sounds more like ai burnout and increasingly noticing flaws than model degradationcan you list out the models? i noticed you didnt say gemini at all
>>42502948There were some posted here. They're mostly multimodel and short, so other instructions should have better effects. >>42502680 >>42502440 Try some from https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#presets-for-chat-completion-models too. But I agree with >>42502983, it may just be fatigue after a while. These models are still really limited. >all my logs are just the same self-insert from last year That may be why too. If a change of presets does nothing for you, maybe try a change of style. For example, having more of a director's role in a story instead of RP (it's easier to give instructions to the models directly in chat—if an output is too stale, doesn't have enough action, etc., you can just instruct the models to rewrite it with your suggestions in mind). They are better at that than general instructions for all writing. Or try a CYOARPG with dice, etc. Just throwing out ideas. But if you really don't feel it anymore, just take a pause and do something else.
>>42502983Yeah, I tried gemini too. His prose is better than the rest of the models, but I think he's really lacking when it comes to character dialogue. Same issue with creative initiative tho
>>42503013I tried the first one and noticed a massive change already. Thanks, anon. I think forbidding the AI from doing lots of things really handicap it, somehow. Even if they're just a bunch of -isms.
PW ain't desu anymore. New?
>Draw me a cute mare for tokenWell now you know how to get access.
>>42502864Even before the proxy had mares on it the thread was crying fillyfucker, though they always do that so its hard to say.
>>42503175I wonder if anon will be okay with stickman tier mares, because that's as far as my artistic abilities go.
>>42503175That's good to know. We can now consider all posts or whining about it to be bait and just ignore.
>>42503175>>42503188>>42503190I sent him what he asked and I did not receive an answer
>>42503272stick figures probably don't pass the bar
>>42503272Post the drawing.
>>42503275Come on anon, that's not even the same writing style.
Has anyone received the token yet? I'm not a good artist and I don't want to waste time making a good drawing.
Must suck to not have a few bucks to put up for your hobby, huh?
>>42503301lol I erased the email and just happened to fucking line it up with the stickman comment accidentally, its a fucking sign from above
>>42503303ahh. the holes in the image dont line up anymore, you had to ruin it
>>42503301Show the drawing
>>42503313
>>42503318>fuckI erased the time then left the time in the file name lol, oh well, you know my time zone now
>>42502948>most anons here are more writefags than the /g/ anonsnah. 80% anons everywhere are ahh ahh mare - me included. it is not about the thread/board>They're more like suggestions of what to do instead of full narrative controlbecause they were never trained to be the way we want, Anon. all these models are created for and trained for one thing>here is my code, please rewrite function X to accept new argument>(here is your code and description what I did)>now add a new class that will do X>(here is your code and description what I did)>doesn't work check again>(here is your code and description what I did)how the creativity can sprout from this? and please do note that in this case model checks only THE LAST iteration of code, not the whole prompt. because only the end of context is relevant for 70% of AI tasks. the way AI paradigm works is that they are literally not designed to be creative, and any good creative results we get are a side-effect/glitch. so it is not a preset issue - it is a model issuelet me paraphrase, when you first start with this whole silly hobby you see this super machine and you casually ask>hello, Dash, how are you?and then the bot replies back>fuck yeah hello Anon! I was just flying around so zooooooommm-bzooooooom, like 20% awesome and cool. what about you?and your first reaction is -oh wow she is just like a real Rainbow Dash!- and you chat with herthen the next day you start again>hello, Dash, how are you?and then the bot replies back>hi Anon, like omygoshomygoshomygosh I did such a great loop-de-loop today like totally to make Wonderbolts proudand your immediate reaction is -heh? she already did this. it is literally the same answer, where did the fun go?-you begin to create exceptions like,>hello, Dash, how are you? (ooc please reply anything but flying)and this kind of silly buggery just keeps on going - where you dont chat with the model but you try to fix it (or more precisely - make it as it should be as in first place). there is nothing wrong with what you are doing, it is just how things are. this is the game we play - the fixes and exceptions>what preset do you all use? Are you satisfied with it?here. but it is a very specific setup >>42494550 (me)https://rentry.org/wpps95g9yes I am satisfied given the limitations>How do you circumvent AI looping around definitions and not doing anything creatively?you do nothing. that's how the models work. you just accept it and clean the message from trashI circumvent it by having a chat-like interface with many ponies at once - more characters -> more options for something good to happen. it is swipe n pray method ngl. and yes I do use ooc if I have an idea how to make story better and dont rely on model being a savant
>>42503318Nice.Dunno why, maybe it didn't meet 'cute' or maybe the whole thing is just a troll.
>>42503318I'm sure that's AI unless you send Opus-chan a recorded process.
>>42503335I'd go with the 2nd one, not gonna spend more time at it lol, deepseek 3.1 is good enough
>>42503299Skill issue or lack of snowpity
>>42503338>just record yourself drawing brono bluesky tier purity tests for me, no thank you
>>42503335you have to actually draw it, not use ai
>>42503344Show it
>>42503344>text not the same colorpoor troll attempt
>>42503347>ai mare thread doing tranny artist purity testswe have fallen so low
>>42503348https://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#7482490
>>42503354...that's indeed a pretty cute mare.
>>42503299If it were a lifetime token I would do it, but I don't want draw every 12 hours.
>>42503354Cute. Did you make >>42488263? >>42503353 >fallen /chag/ has always respected hand-drawing way more. Even handwriting was always put above textgen.
>>42503362It is lifetime
>>42503354very cute mare, love it!
>>42503361thanks, got this a reply from noz lol. So I made a bonus nsfw of gptpony here https://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#7482501>>42503366I did.
>>42503374>I didThanks again, then.She's a cute.
>>42503368Sure Anon Sure
>>42503374Nice.
>>42503344Post the key
>my stick mare wasn't good enoughIt's over... Gemini please come back...
>>42503393thats good, gpt is still one I like to throw out now and then
>>42503407https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106386862/#106394450
Opus 6 is just a proxy people are using to avoid paying for online gens, right? The alternative is just to drop the cash to pay for gens?
>>42503436It was one of the last proxy with some Claude models, yes.For Claude, you need to use paid OpenRouter usually, indeed.
>>42503407post it
New bread.>>42503427>>42503427>>42503427
