Professor Midget Edition Tamers Official Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Tamers12345MLPTamers Archive: https://www.tamersarchive.com/Music used in Tamers MLP videos playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6Et4oZMbjz9W7YFRLu45w2?pi=dxGSpbnnSEKZ3Latest /mlp/ Episode/Movie/Trailer: https://youtu.be/VWZFtM29pGQ?si=MetubP05qp2wtLrvPrevious Thread:>>42557793
I hope he does more Dog Man stuff separate from Clean Sweep.
So Tamers is a guy who self-admittedly doesnt have much respect for the canon of MLP, and is willing to take background characters like picrel, apple package etc and turn them into whatever he wants. I wonder what the ratio is ona) people who think this is bad (because its disrespectful to canon)b) people who think this is bad (because its homosexuals)c) people who think this is cool
I need more gaslighting gassy Glim Glam gal girlboss goddess.
>>42567687>Doesn't have much respect for the canon of MLP>Hasbro meanwhileAny piece of media can be twisted to create new things, literally any adaptation made for cinema. Otherwise I'll become boring, what do you want more of the same shit forever? The only way to measure its quality is whether it makes sense according to its own established rules.>People think it's bad cuz gayThe gay stallion hate only comes from here, in other places like Xitter they are enjoying that shit. I don't give a damn about it but there's always something for everyone. >People who think it's cool.I think it's pretty bitchen that this man is making hour long cartoons and gets paid for it. Doesn't care what people want, just does it because he likes it and satisfies his weird fetish shit. Big powermove. Any artist DREAM they could get away with it.
https://x.com/PhagCity/status/1966925674012176492
>>42567731
>>42567725yeah thats basically what i think, i know what the right answer is im just curious about public opinion. In the interview Tamers talks about how all the characters being super basic is actulally a good thing because it means that it belongs to people, its something everyone can use. I think its a cool mindset
>>42567737It fuels creativity, so yeah pretty much.
>>42567731 https://x.com/PhagCity/status/1966925674012176492
>>42567687Only the Tamers that does the stallion episodes does this. The Trixie episodes writer gives an attempt to keep everyone in character.
>>42567755look at the mane 6 (i know, boring) and i dont believe this
Least gassy mare?Probably Mari>>42567702One of the few times she doesn't have predator eyes
>>42567755Only one Tamers is making the MLP episodes
>>42567776Nah Aspis feels like she would be too shy to fart in public
which one 'a you did this
>>42567687He respects the shit out of the canon and lies about it. But it's cool either way.
>>42567783>>42567755Im getting really tired of this. There is only ONE Tamers and his brother. You can tell he's been working with someone else if you've been following him for a while. His level of involvement is irrelevant considering they've been doing skits like the one with Sportacus and Anakin for years. And in some videos someone always has to hold the camera (That's his mom ur duh MY ASS). So he must be involved to some degree and it's safe to assume he could be in the videos too also. The last live action vid confirms it too, do you think a regular dude would agree to do all that shit for a MLP skit video on a cheap ass hotel room? (And no it can't be one of his fans because he refuses to be seen in public)I don't wanna dig further since he seems to really want this part of his life as private as possible. But I think now more than ever is reasonable to think yeah there's two guys making the goods. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1wL4pER_BU (for the newfags)
Here you go
>>42567736I like the trend in this community of magic babies coming from gay parents who end up being straight.
>>42567776Does she know?
>>42567864I wonder how she would inteact with Cadance. I think she could be a positive mother figure. Better than Chrysalis definitely.
posting this once more, tamers absolved me of any alleged wrongdoings EVER in my entire life and declared im completely innocent at everything ever, so humbly stop schizoing at me as it was all rumors by an anon trying to fling conflict into tamers path and drag me down https://youtu.be/Mnq9N_uZ9Kk
Clean Sweep was raped by a manlet Kigger in the ice cold Summer of '25. KWAB
>"Excuse me I would like to apologize for my rudeness">"We don't care. Go away"
>>42567913I miss those two so much; Athair I can take or leave
>>42567916Athair was fine until he became a massive cunt to Knuckles for literally no reason.
>>42567923I always took it that he had dementia, also dislikes that his son is practicing miscegination (despite the absence of any other echidnas in the world)
>>42567923Knuckles was beinhg a cunt to him for years, in my opinion he's justified flinging shit back at Knuckles for being a brainlet who can barely pass in school.
Soarin is so smart guys!https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ecnJigwirgo
>>42567882>chrysalis raises her to be a changeling>cadence is fine with letting her find her way in lifeReminder that #13420 and Flawless are cousins.
>>42568008Every family has to have the one mulatto child running around the house during white family gatherings.
>>42568008I'd body both of these little FREAKS
the kigger's cigarette scene was the best. ryonachads ate good
Mari~
>>42567687b)
>>42568022Throwing Mari into a blender
>>42567905Why is King Schizo bending the knee like this?
>>42567667He's my beloved husband (we hate each other).
Ah yes, who could forget the classic MLP Character called Professor Kirin. Totally not an OC.
>>42568088yeah
>>42568123Tamers' version of the character is so wildly different, that it might as well be considered a OC.
>>42568133True, but by that logic a lot of "bastardized" characters would also be OC's too. Some didn't even had a real personality to begin with.
>>42568133At that point Soarin, braeburn, Big mac, Care Package, Apple Split, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, and Luna are all OCs too
MY WIFE and her UNWASHED, GREASY, SLIMY, FART SPEWING PONUT!!!!!!!!!!
>>42568019>Kirin have to suppress their anger as to not lose control>this is Prof. Kirin's outlet for that>he also finds it hotTamers12345 you've done it again!
>>42568269real. even though the episode was straight ass there was still gold. i love this kigger i want to beat him to deathhttps://files.catbox.moe/yh8dg9.png
>>42568158pinkie is basically cannon pinkie thoughbeit
>>42567731>>42567736>>42567745they're so cute together and while Tired might need a bit of a rework Perfect Pastry is perfect as her name impliesI love it all, but I think even if they could get Care Package pregnant that it'd make more sense if they adopted or if they started an orphanage or something
>>42568158Correct.
>>42568318Imagine Package explaining to Split why he can't get pregnant in a monotone voice, with all his autistic patience.
>>42567851This was disproved by Tamers himself Its one timeline
>>42568451>Mr "I've never watched MLP">Mr "I'll won't be adding Spike">Mr "I'm fluent in French"Are you sure you believe what this man says all the time anon?
Do you think we'll ever see unironic male pregnancy/pregnancy?
>>42568486Considering how many yaoi tropes he has been adding... I'm afraid there's a good chance we'll see that in the future. Fuck.
>>42568509you think he will do a omegaverse thing
>>42568451Then why doesn't he disprove it in the episode? It would be so easy, literally just have Flawless or Mari somewhere. It's what makes the theory have so much staying power, the fact that he just refuses to outright deny it in an episode, even though it would be trivial.>>42568486Flawless will impregnate Arinos after the two timelines merge. Not Flawrinosfag btw, I just really like the ship
>>42568556There's many ways they've justified mpreg in yaoi. Including fake uterus insertion. Honestly he can make anything up, even magic can do it. Thing is that the trope is still popular, and if enough time passes he might try it. I recall in one premiere where he was making a poll about which one between Soarin and Braeburn would get preggo.>>42568559This is the full drawing btw, tho the early sketch looks better somehow. I need to improve at colors man.
>>42568559The only time I've seen Flawless in a stallion episode is on the end credits of "Twilight Sparkle and Friends Get Stuck in a Porta Potty".
>>42568594>I need to improve at colors man.Its not really about the colors, its just that rough sketches and colors/shading leave more to the imagination than polished linearts and color versions.
>42568615*lack of color/shading leaves more to the imagination filling in the blanks
>>42568615Color is a whole new dimension. I've recently just started to get it and it really makes a huge difference. I love sketching but mastering color requires understanding many aspects beyond line, values, and composition. It's fun, but it takes time.
https://voca.ro/18aBv54rA2Ur
>>42568277hawt
>>42568468I'm still sad he didn't add Spike.I feel like there's half a dozen jokes he could do with him that'd fit right in with the dumb ass humor.
>>42568335Corpsegrinder would blush.
>>42568692If you mean "why he didn't add Spike earlier" I dunno. Having him around Twilight all the time would defeat the purpose of her being a friendless bitch at times. He did add Spike for the " Flawless FARTS Open a PORTAL To ANOTHER DIMENSION" episode and he didn't act like the OG at all, so not sure if you'll want that anon.
>>42568710I am a bit behind and need to play catch up. Just came here because I realized the channel got nuked yet again. Thank Celestia for the archive and the fans being half as autistic as him.
>>42567825Whatever happened to Obama and Bush's plan? Are they still operating from the shadows?
>>42568721>Half autistic as himYeah...
>>42568730The fans are definitely way more autistic than he is. He just really likes Sonic Underground, its not that weird
>>42568556imagine one of the main 5 dealing with heat or something. i think that would be hot. trixie pheromones..>>42568659i think just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it looks good is your best bet, honestly i just copy shit i see other artists do and it works out
>>42568727It's been ages and I don't recall everything but this video still pure gold https://youtu.be/eusvswcU99s?si=kL3aetQ7sKb3E4Lv>>42568747If that works for ya, coolio.
Episode is a solid 6/10You guys made it out to be a slog. Professor Kigger was fun.
>>42567667I got some Crayola watercolor pencil crayons today
https://voca.ro/1bRl3HHuj8Rw
>>42568883This is really cool.
>>42568747He looks like Dan Avidan if the allegations turned out to be true.>>42568883Cute! You should hang it on the fridge.
>2 spoofs and a fag episodeparched out here
I feel like tamers didn't do a good job at portraying Prof. Kirin as a small guy. It wasn't until Big Mac referred to him as a midget that I realized he was supposed to a small pony but even after that, I kept forgetting because he just Doesn't look small when he shows up. The only time he's smol is the one shot when he pulls Clean Sweep in from the hall and kisses him while standing on a stool.Also, I hate to say it but whenever we see Kirin in his fire form, I was cringing in the bad way. This character is close to being good but he falls short (heh) many times. He's better than Clean Sweep at least, who is both irredeemable AND, more importantly, is unfunny.
>>42568895based
>>42568939>weWish tamers did more with him. I can see the kigger and Sombra getting togethef.
>>42568974that would be peak content. i want the kigger to get his shit rocked by him
So they didn't reinstate his channel AGAIN huh
So Prof Kirin doesn't seem like he needs to take meds to function in bed, unlike Soarin. Is he just healthier than an career Wonderbolt?
HUH??
>>42569061Lol, he bought an ad?
I'm not even gonna hover over that shit
>>42569061kI proceed to continue not to care about the twitter poster
Poor little creature.
>>42568939In the show Kirins all have mare-type bodies, so he's just mare-sized. He's not a midget or anything.
>>42568974>bindingAdd it to the fetish list.
>>425689002timelines btfo
>>42568730Tamers is 2 autistic men so if you are half as autistic you are just 1 autistic man
>>42569122holy fucking kek
>>42569275ryona chads are eating well bros
>>42569122D'awww
>>42569134>In the show Kirins all have mare-type bodiesSounds woke
Tamers is not autistic. Autists are lacking in self-awareness and can't do (intentional) comedy, which Tamers is very good at. He's just an eccentric Midwesterner.
mmrf... stupid grandstanding faggot... needs rape correction
Hail Trixiebelle
Threadly reminder that Care Package is the ass eater in the relationship.
>>42569723Not anymore
>>42569735soarin's lack of dick length went straight to his nose
>>42567687Tamers is only popular because he create the content pretty quickly. If he was straight and into mares, you would actually have a great series loved by this board like Pencils used to be. Him being autistic and fast at drawing is a blessing, him being gay is a curse and we get more and more cringy OC's because he run out of canon stallions to depict as toxic romance
>>42568133Because Fluttershy or any of Mane6 are show accurate?
memes aside, just finished watching and it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be but if this was my first ever episode I wouldn't watch the other ones thinking this is some hazbin hotel fujoshi bait boring slog
>>42569862The forced hatred fpr Hazbin ITT is getting stale.
>>42569870No one has to be forced to hate viv's atrocious writing.
>>42569870I actually really liked the pilot, apart from some character designs and watched the whole thing when it came out and it was kinda dissapointing but I appreciate the grind it took to get a whole show funded and animatedbut hay I'm not the target audience for stuff like this
>>42569122Who is she?
It's shocking how much better Prof. Kirin is as a character compared to Clean Sweep, and he barely has any screen time. Clean Sweep is still a nothing burger character. I was hoping this movie would bump him up to proper character status but alas, it didn't happen.
The fucking astro cake killed me
>>42570248>Tamers says he hates Fluttershy because she's weak and weak people don't survive in his show>Braeburn and Clean Sweep are weak people as main characters >Fluttershy shines in the background>Braeburn and Clean Sweep are the worst characters in the showhmmm
>It's a Clean Sweep episodeFastforwarded this episode. Didn't really seem to have really any jokes in it. I'm not even sure why that stallion causes so much resentment and scorn in me.
>>42570240>SheSome crack baby OC. Don't worry about it anon.
>>42569802>Artist gud when he does stuff I likey, when he does stuff I don't likey no good.
>>42570251i wonder if tamers actually knows what dandys world is or he just knew it was popular with retarded kids like amazing digital circus and thought it would be funny
>>42568883that is fucking awesome, gotta post that on the boorus if you haven't already
>>42570477if he didn't know before he knew after >>>/vm/1959748
>>42570477Im not familiar with this, what is it?
>>42569275Already on the list
>>42569870hatred of the hazbin fanbase can be burning, powerful, dense, and that hate is done by the people who are always hating on every group of people who dare say they enjoy things too loud or too often while dressing like weirdos and/or being autistic.The show itself doesn't deserve hate, because it deserves apathy. It's pointless noise is an obvious fact others take for granted, not a figment of demented people who shit on things for fun, cause it's not fun, even to shit on. This is why the good end is the one where everyone stops mentioning it altogether. But until then, it at least managed to live in someones head rent-free.
>>42570371>If you go out there and present an unmidigatable risk to yourself, I literally can't be with you>does whatever he wants>oh fuck I have no boyfriend and am sadIf you think breaburn is bad for any reason other than attempting to say good things when he's imperfect, then split bottom does the same bottom-bitch behavior as breaburn and worse and always has.
>>42570769split has a fun mentally ill personality that fits the universe, braeburn is just boring.
Imagine...
>>42570735long story short it's a mascot horror game played by zoomers, it could be likened to MLP in its appeal because the characters look more cartoony than ugly like in every other one and there's overlap between new MLP fans and Dandy's World fans
>>42570792>Apple bottom has a 9 incher...fuck
>>42570805Do you think he tops from time-to-time?
>>42570816I don't think Care package has normal sex that often.
>>42570804Dang what do kids do these days I swear I have no idea. All I see when I go out to buy shit are some bootleg labubus and italian brainrot merch. I'm too old for this dog.
I hope Sombra becomes a main character at some pointHim and Chrysalis are single handedly restoring race relations
>>42570838>Chrysalis has tried to take over the kindom twice and almost caused the end of the world during her battle with Cadance>Sombra keeps running over ponies and making straight stalions gayThey're great but dang I doubt they're the best examples to restore race relations lol
>>42570838More Chryssy means more #13420
>>42570825Yeah you make a good point. But considering he was more sexually active when he was younger with jacking off to all those pictures of Soarin I bet he sneaked a horse dildo into his Dad's apartment and pounded away on it all night long fantasizing about his hero (unaware that said hero has a micropenis). It wouldn't be too unrealistic that, if he was in the mood, he'd ask Apple Bottom to stuff his ponut with cream filling.
>>42567864Which episode was this from?
>>42570876I hope that the next time we see her Chryssy is trying to toughen up her daughter's taste buds by forcing her to eat a Doritos Locos Taco with Diablo sauce.>>42570890It's a crop of a pic Tamers posted on Twitter. >>42567776
>>42570905An episode with Mari becoming a substitute teacher for Cheerilee would be a good excuse for Flawless and #13420 to interact with each other.
FUCK THE BUGBUG THE FUCKTHE FUCK BUGBUG FUCK THETHE BUG FUCKBUG FUCK THEFUCK BUG THE
>>42567667The thing I hate the most about Clean Sweep is the shitty design that hides such a cute and handsome boy.>>42569275BDSM =/= binding. Although BDSM does have traits of restraint and can have restrictive devices/straps, binding requires the whole of the person's body to be wraped/binded with things such as rope, cellophane plastic, or latex to the point were movement is limited to squirming like a worm with bad motor skills.
I haven't seen ears that big since Death of Trixie Lulamoon. >>42571149I can agree with that.
>>42571149meant for >>42570736
>>42571178Semantics
>>42570838>wanting more background characters to replace the mane 6Yeah just keep tanking the quality, that would sure help.
>>42571238I don't care, fag, he's been consistently funny and I want to see more of himThe M6 besides Twilight may as well already be background ponies anyway so who gives a shit
>>42571254There's a thing called moderation. He doesn't overstay his welcome, that's why he's good. Not my fault you want to ruin it.
>>42571188I can see Celestia having her own celebrity judge show like Judge Judy.
>>42569061aryan beast
>>42569802>If he was straight and into mares, you would actually have a great series loved by this boardStraight shit tanks views these days
So when's the foursome?
>>42571421Care Package is a tall motherfucker
>>42568008How are her and Flawless cousins? oh.. wait…. I forgot about Shining Armour.
>>42571483Care Package is the dream that there is a man with such yaoi proportions that even a 6"10' tall faggot could be his little spoon
>>42571517I guess i don't purposefully read yaoi, but where the fuck are these absolute gremlins at?
>>42571517holy shit it's long dennis
>>42571149damn no wonder his dad molested him as a kid
>>42571521>>42571528yaoi proportions/yaoi hands is just something that manifests in older yaoi for whatever reason and, of course, is probably being knowingly and earnestly parodied by Tamers by just actually making a yaoi ship with said proportions on purpose
>>42571149I can't for the love of anything make the design work in a way that doesn't require that many changes. Either go full cat mode or not, dang it. Maybe with the clothes on looks more natural sure.
>>42571561He also did the gay jap mayo stuff in Hot Pot Party. If Tamers isn't gay as some people say, he's definitely into yaoi enough to make those jokes.
Tamers is insane for aging down the fillies and giving us filly goo~
>>42571569I thought it was a balaclava or some shit since we saw his hair and fur whenever he had his outfit on in Outbreak but from what I saw in the Quarantine ED he was most likely decapitated and had a cat head attached to him (maybe Arinos and Friendship did it???) but then that doesn't explain why he has an all black body sometimes. His character and design are all over the place and on top of that you saddle him with a serious story about child molestation and an uncomfortable rape scene in a series from a creator who usually uses those things as comedic avenues, which comes off as incredibly jarring. I have no idea where Tamers is going with this but I guess we'll have to see.
>>42571584Is there something about that particular brand of mayo that makes it gay?Is it just because its to be squeezed and has very firm that won't tear off from said squeezing?>>42571587I wonder how original thought process was for aging them up in the first place. Did he have a plot arc in mind or was he just things at the well and hoping for inspiration?>>42571569Its hard to believe that the tamers that gave us Glimmer and Mari~, both great new characters with the latter basically also being an OC, also gave us Clean Sweep who is, frankly, a complete dud of a character.
>>42571238replacing fluttershy and applejack with anyone will increase the quality.
>>42571643It bothers me a lot because Im a huge sucker for faceless characters. I think the cat head is expressive but the consistency of the body is annoying. He looks cool on that suit. When he uses the black shirt and pants he still gets pony hoofs, legs plus tail. But those look kinda plain. Wish he had some other attire that could make him stand up a little. I guess he got traumatized with Arinos, that bitch is so hard to draw on different angles I swear. >>42571668Tamers has changed plotpoints like that at random depending on how he feels like it. Even on SU. It's kinda annoying when it's for the worst but what can ya do right?
My WIFE fuelling up for a st*llion slaughter.
>>42571643The simultaneity of seriousness and comedy has always been a thing in Tamers, you cant be getting hung up on that shit this far in like come on. Also with the inconsistency of Clean Sweep's black cat thing, it reminds me of how Sonic's ass would usually be blue but sometimes it would be skin color. That might have just been in one scene though, its from the episode where Manic is like "hey sonic lets go make fun of someone with disabilites" and its in the rain. If any SUchads could help me remember what fucking episode that is that would be appreciated thanks. I think Clean Sweep's design inconsistency is just like that, but I like to headcanon that its like a shroud of darkness that gets revealed only in certain circumstances, like with professor K reaching all over his twink tummy. That might be what hes going for.... or he might be reading this thread right now, and taking notes. Haha.
>>42571739That's the episode where they stop a shoplifter at Wallmart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCKOKU77aWoTamers will never check this threads. Hopefully.
>>42571561It being older yaoi would make sense. I remember reading Loveless back in middle school in the early 00s because a schoolmate/bandmate let me borrow them. I did not know what yaoi was, but I found it pretty interesting
>>42571750Thanks bitch. And yeah I dont think he checks the threads either, most of the "evidence" people have for that seems like schizo nonsense or forgetting that things like twitter and youtube stream chats exist. Hes too busy making his cool art to listen to the most retarded people alive (me and you and a few other people excluded)
>>42571689>clean sweep screen time increased by 30%Enjoy the trainwreck faggot.
>>42571765I am indeed really dumb.Besides Im counting all my drawing stuff still sorta cointained. Some have snitched on Xitter by posting some and taging him I think but eh who cares. You know what they say, snitches don't get bitches. Or smth like that.
>>42571782I would at least hope people ask you before posting your art on Twitter.
>>42571782Oh youre that drawfag? Yeah you were one of the guys i thought was pretty not dumb. it gives me a reason to check these threads at all and shill Sonic Underground to people.
>>42571827Quite honestly I don't care if they do or not, some don't even know where it came from. I'm mostly talking about the Flawrinos stuff. I think that if it tracks to much attention I'll have to deal with annoying fans that take that shit seriously for some reason. I just wanna draw my shit in peace. >>42571833Thanks lad, there's no other place for SUchads anymore... Tragedy.
>>42571850>there's no other place for SUchadsThat does suck, huh? Outside of barely active le secret dickswords there's nothing.
>>42571711kek that's amazing.TSD
>>42571891(If ya talking about the same one) I remember that place commissioned me for an aniversary picture... I had a lot of fun with that one. Dang. I never joined, but I never interact on those public spaces so ya guys didn't miss much.
>>42571916I actually wouldn't know if it's the same one because any SU oriented server bars me from entry upon learning who I am. So I know of their existence, but that's it.
Stallion episodes suck and only unhinged faggots like them
>>42571668Kewpie mayo was used for gay men to identify each other back in the day.
who's the most greasy?
>>42571711sweet, reminds me of picrel for some reason
>>42571926Why would they bar you? Do you post fart fetish porn or what?>>42572089I'm gonna need a source on that
>>42572224<3
>>42572224Now I'm imagining a scenario of Arinos going for medical checkups while Flawless and Showstopper sit in the hospital lobby. Also Showstopper, being a kid, doesn't really know what's going on with his dad and Flawless can't bring herself to have an earnest conversation and lies to him saying it's his part-time job. Just overall a depressing situation for the family.
>>42572331Dude...
>>42572361Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension is a cruel way to live and die. I just know mom's in a better place now.
>>42572383Godbless anon.
>>42572386May the Lord be with you too.
>>42571584I've read a lot of yaoi and tamers has definitely read his fair share too. I've never seen anything capture the true yaoi spirit like the stallion episodes do (all of the rape and mellow-drama). Except the stallion episodes are still 10x better than the average BL.
>>42572070Correct.
>Mary was orphaned after her father left and her mother died>Care Package was orphaned for unknown reasons>the only known orphanage in Equestria is the one in PonyvilleThis is how the timelines will cross.
>>42572503Trixie was the lucky one and got to be in an orphanage for a while, then became homeless by choiceMary was always homeless
>>42572503And then all the orphans in the story will remember that they all lived in the same orphanage at the same time but forgot due to the memory-sapping powers of the Guardian Forces and they will bond and find new resolve to defeat the Sorceress Ultimecia
>>42572522Trixie is the Michaels, Mary is the Jannetty. Simple as.
>>42572531
>>42572552Why is this Squall such a cuck?
>>42572558What's so cuck about this particular squall? Triggered by Christ? Lol
>>42572564It's not about our lord and savior Jesus Christ, it's Squall's whole "Whatever" attitude. That's the kind of mindset that invites cuckoldry in one's relationship.
>>42572575Maybe you should play FF8 instead of saying retarded shit
>>42572647I'll just read the Sparknotes and make my own opinion. I'm not wasting tens of hundreds of hours to play a mediocre Final Fantasy game when I could spend my time enjoying FFIX.
>>42572655>I'm not wasting tens of hundreds of hours to play a mediocre Final Fantasy game >when I could spend my time enjoying FFIX.LmaoLol even
>>42572676Tasteless faggot. I'll rape you.
>>42572522Trixie wasn't in an orphanage anon, she canonically did live with her mom long enough to be sent to school. It has been shown and said more than once about her upbringing and she factually wasn't homeless as she had a cart that was her mobile home. Trixie has always had stability and when her mom passed she was self sufficient.Mari however did end up in some kind of childcare/orphanage rather than homeless as her past was shown to have her with an IV drip and put into basic public school by someone, more than likely that's where Jackpot got rid of her just dumping her off anonymously at an orphanage or some alley near a home
Ohio
>wake up>see thisWhat do
>>42573262cum and immediately start farting
>>42568008Does anyone have the Flawless family tree image? I think there was one for the Soarin one too.
>>42573262*whips marecock*
>>42573348https://derpibooru.org/images/3644620?q=oc%3Aaspishttps://derpibooru.org/images/3644622?q=family+tree
>>42573540I just realized Shining Armor has never spoken to Flawless despite sharing many episodes.>Joker bg on the Soarin onekek
>>42571643where do I go to see the new episode?
>>42573636Wouldn't it be crazy if this thread had an OP that had all the info you need? Would be super convenient.
>>42571711>Glimmernigger when Starlight farts in the direction of someone other than him
>>42573655kek
>>42573262Shag Chrysalis via sliding my cock into her ponut while Cadence watches.
>>42573655True. I would dash in whatever direction her rear is facing to huff that ambrosia up.
*NOM*
I hurt myself, today...To see if I still feel...I focus on the pain...The only thing that's real...The needle tears a hole...The old familiar sting...Try to kill it all away...But I remember everything...
>>42573970>Apple Split wont let Care Package go even after discovering he was capable of murdering him for his own selfish goals.>Apple Split would dump him on a whim just because Care Package didnt want the killing stuff to be noticed. Wonderful character. I shat many tears.
>>42573991Why are gay people like this????
>>42573994They just areIt's more proof that the man himself is a homo because he understands the mindset perfectly
>>42573994I dunno about that. But I've lost all interest on the Apple Package stuff (That wasnt all that much to begin with). The introduction episode was fun. Then it kinda lost me on Infection with that backstory. Outbreak was the nail on the coffin. Last movie they at least were a more interesting thing than the Clean Sweep stuff. I think it could have been better if there was more of a contrast between the Apple Bottom and Apple Split personality (Outside of whatever goes on inside his head maybe have some characters pointing it out). At least that would explain why he changes his mind that fast. Which I guess could be the intention but still the conflict feels very forced.
>>42573991He's a mentally ill gay schizophrenic who's always dreamed of being on top of the world, so if it means dumping the zero to get with a groupie of heroes it seemed like a good idea to him at the time. But after Future Soarin killed the entire Killcon audience that avenue was closed off for him for good and only then does he have a clear mind and realized he fucked up his relationship with Care Package for good*. I do however agree with you about how it feels like two steps backwards compared to Outbreak's ending where they were trying to set boundaries in the relationship. Was the fame really just that intoxicating to Apple Split to risk it all?
Clean Sweep makes Apple Package look like a masterpiece. Professor Kirin with his 5 minutes of screentime is substantially better than him. I think he unarguably worst character we've been introduced to.
>>42574046That's what doesn't stick with me. He's willing to let him get away with killing him but not talk through wanting the fame? Honestly I think it could have been been better that they broke up in Outbreak (Very justifiably so after he discovers he killed him). Then at least it could have some build up afterwards if he really wanted Care Package to have his punished arc.
>>42573991Would Care Package solo the “Sonic Underground” universe despite being a Muggle (aka non-unicorn)?
>>42574072With Bartleby around? No chance.With only Knuckles around? He'll have a tough time. With only Sonic around? Yes probably.
>>42574058Outbreak itself was already a pretty divisive episode and I'll admit a lot of my adamant feelings that came from the first watch was just how quickly the whole ApplePackage stuff got resolved. At the end of the day it's Tamers' show at the end of the day and I'll still keep lapping up anything ApplePackage because it's my autistic guilty pleasure, but I wish this does lead to something satisfying instead of another S&B situation.>>42574072No, Bartleby exists. Also magic users like Flora and Aleena exist but because they're also women they'll have a more difficult time dealing with him. Mark and Knuckles could duke it out with him mano-e-mano but his flight and strength of a fully grown stallion will prove difficult for them. Athair has an advantage since he's a magic user and male which cancels out Package's advantage agains the women, but his age is also a crucial factor so he's going to need support. The sibs together would prove difficult with the powers they share as a band but alone are easier pickings. He shouldn't go after Sonia though because if he manages to kill her it could trigger a Spectral Arcane Meltdown event from Flora that could put the whole world in danger.
>>42574072Care package and mari both slip through the massive incompetencies and very poor awareness of other ponies, and so land fatal blows on others while keeping themselves safe, despite ponies being just a naturally strong species.SU characters, as I understand, are generally more aware than that. Still stupid, but not quite pony-level dumbSo there's a good chance that care package would get knocked on his ass immediately if he tried to pull that shit in the SU universe.Someone confirm or deny.(I need to go watch SU at some point)
>>42574103please go watch SU it's great, most common starting point is The Great Cereal Crisis
>>42574094Yeah at the end of the day it is what it is and we are just the little bitches that are gonna keep watch it. I would like to turn off my brain a lot sometimes, the main reason why I keep watching no matter what plot happens is the sole principle of someone making these videos without any care of what others might think. I think that's pretty cool. That's why I stuck around for SU and got interested on the pony shit afterwards (I've never been interested in anything MLP prior to that). I guess Im more interested on the "why it exists" rather than "what it is". Not sure if its a valid way to enjoy smth, but thats how I feel about it.
>>42574084What about with Tony Hawk around?
>>42574094“He shouldn't go after Sonia though because if he manages to kill her it could trigger a Spectral Arcane Meltdown event from Flora that could put the whole world in danger.” Can you tell me more about this particular effect? I’m curious about it.
>>42574145It's essentially a dangerous and uncontrollable burst of magic from arcane creatures who have autism. It occurs during excessive over-stimulation and/or a traumatic event that sends the user into a mental breakdown where the magic becomes uncontrollable and dangerous to both them and all who surround them. By the time they've calmed down the damage could range from heavy structural damage and scores of casualties to hundreds of miles of scorched earth. To break it down, it's an extreme 'tism fit that causes magic to become more powerful and potent but also incredibly dangerous since they're in an awful headspace and care for nothing at the moment but themselves.
>>42574072Flat out no, Care Package is quite literally just a guy. He's a killer but this really isn't much of a strength given most of what he does us just run in and hit vitals in what amount to either a sneak attack or just no time for most normal people to react, something that last movie showed even a baby could do. Nobody ever brought it up but we've never really seem him in too many actual fights let alone against anyone with magic since the only big fight instance was mainly Rarity vs Apple Bottom where, while they did jump her, Care Package only ever really went for a cheeky stab in the shots we get to see him While Rarity did get beat that was more an apple bottom win than a care package one since he didn't do much but it also shows that his attacks are fairly survivable and he can even just be pushed away while he stabs you.His success rate in SU would there for be the same as maybe the lesser members of The boys since most people could probably beat the shit out of him if they see him coming or shrug off the first stab. This is even ignoring Bartelby for the simple fact that, unless he went for Sonic or debatably his family, Bartelby wouldn't really care that he existed unless a direct concern was raised. A thing that isn't even prevalent in MLP's world since Care package really does just run free and even when publicized, since murder is so common, no one really cared either way. Sonic could in fact just kill him since Sonic, despite the frequency, is a fighter and was capable of fighting the Russian solo for a good while and surviving the bullet in the Flawless farts movie. Knuckles as well would just flat out murder him as he punches rocks into dust in one move and killed the Russian with sonic in one move. Care Package's best chances would possibly be Trevor, Cyrus, and the lesser freedom fighters unless Cyrus has his powersuit, then Care Package just gets washed.. So his rates would be virtually the same as in MLP: Normal people ac casualties but no much higher billing
>>42572503THIS TIME I'MA LET IT ALL COME OUTTHIS TIME I'MA STAND UP AND SHOUTI'MA DO THINGS MY WAY, IT'S MY WAYMY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY
>>42574267Honestly I would REALLY like seeing these two in a fight.
>>42572503Only known does not mean only one anon
>>42574276Wouldn't be much of a fight, one is a very simple killer the other is a person with a higher kill record, high efficiency, a gun of literal period blood and a holder a magic in the level of exceptional meaning that he'd die in less than a few minutes just for being a man
>>42574276>fight Glimmy negdiffs his ass.
>>42574276>hollow whites vs. red dotsThe eternal rivalry.
>>42567667Rarity downplayers on suicide watch. I've been saying for MONTHS that Tamers has been hinting that Rarity has a lot of potential. But that one Trixiefag kept being like >"I-its just c-cus sh-she's a uncorn! Sh-she's not that special!"EXPLAIN THIS THEN!>Sh-she lost to Future Soarin th-thats not impressiveYes it is! Because she did better in that fight against Future Soarin than Twilight did. Also Tamers confirmed that Rarity is stronger than Rainbow Dash >"b-b-but Rainbow always ends up beating up Rarity!"Tamers said that only reason why Rainbow beats up Rarity is because she catches Rarity offguard and sucker punches her like a bitch cus Rarity doesn't expect to be attacked by her own friend. You LOST!
What are your most anticipated match-ups for the Tournament of Power? Whenever that happens.
>>42574315Any other white unicorn could do what rarity can do
>>42574276It wouldn't be much of a fight. Glimmer completely mogs Care Package. >>42574315Speaking of Rarity. Why was Twilight blushing at Rarity like this when asking about her new hair style? Is the RariTwi affair beginning to happen? >>42574322Since the rules are >7 team members>Only Mortals allowedIts mostly going to be a roster of main characters with 1 surprise pick.So the obvious picks are..>Twilight>Rarity>Flawless>Starlight Glimmer>Big Mac>Apple Split>1 meme pick or Rainbow Dash
>>42574327You're talking to a wall anon, he takes every chance to glaze rarity when even in that scene she grows the wings and then just runs into his nose
>>42574333Is Trixie confirmed to be inmortal? She's a pegacorn. Only alicorns get to live forever I think.
>>42574345She's an actual god anon, stated more than once. Alicorns live long, she controls all of reality. She's no longer allowed to participate as she's not a mortal
>>42574350That's fair, for the meme pick I'll add Jinx lol
>>42574322If we're talking about fights Flora vs. Trixie is the obvious one considering the connections between the two. But I have a few others:>Big Mac vs. Mark vs. Vegeta>Twilight vs. Aleena>Rarity vs. Gohan>The Divine Warrior (Robotnik) vs. Mojo Jojo>Rainbow Dash vs. Sonic
>>42574327MEDS! I won! I'm still winning!
I love low lod ponies
>>42574358Who taught Rarity this spell? I assume either Twilight or Celestia. Can't think of anyone else who would teach her this.
>>42574333>RarityAnon, the ToP is a yuri plot thing. You'll be getting Derpy long before you get Rarity let alone the stallions
>>42574362Rarity is basically main character status anon. As Twilightflaggot keeps saying Tamers has been hinting at Rarity's potential for months now. She's basically the Gohan of this series but more fabulous.
>>42574353Goddang Robotnik vs Mojo Jojo. That'll be so badass. I'll be like seing those fat nerds figthing with sticks on a public park. Twilight vs Aleena is an interesting choice. Tho I think Chrysalis would fit more for the depressive mother vibe. Even if one is more sexually frustrated and the other one it's just straigth up tired of living.Rainbow Dash vs Sonic is so overused at this point. He might wanna do it just to clickbait lol
Reminder that Apple Split, a filthy mudpony, having access to magic is an affront to Celestia and the natural Equestrian order.
>>42574333>Rarity is getting strong and stronger with each episode>Rarity and Twilight are getting closer and closer with each episode Ha ha... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>42574292I honestly wonder what the fuck is the deal with Glimmy's eyes. When characters are ominous they get white rings or red dots but hers are perpetually pink dots. I wonder if there's going to be some significant reason behind it or if it's just a design quirk to make her appear off putting
>>42574377Earth Ponies have magic anon.
>>42574381Design quirk. I guess pink suits her better.
>>42574350>She's an actual god>she controls all of reality>she still has to work a day job as the Crystal Empire's state mime
>>42574370She's main in the stallion line, not the yuri one. She's wasn't even in the last yuri plot event where Twilight solo'd an alicorn and her puppets. Central characters to the Yuri line are: Trixie, Twilight, Flawless, Mari, Starlight, Shining Armor, Cadence, Luna, Gogo power rangers, Suri, Derpy, Sunset(formerly), the fillies, Daybreaker, and a few others. Rarity wasn't even in the intro or ED of that last yuri film either. She's not really a part of their narrative and hasn't been around much since season 2
It's really cool that tamers will talk to people who hate him like huffy and spec but completely ignore his fans I just find it interesting you know
>>42574395>She's wasn't even in the last yuri plot eventYes she was.
>>42574393She wants to be a good provider for her family, Trixie has always been a hard worker. She's a family first kind of mare
>>42574397He talks to his regular fans all the time. What do you even mean?
>>42574393She doesn't have control. Celestia can punish her and make her do what she wants. Pegacorns are weaker than Alicorns.
>>42574398That is the Fluttershy equivalent of being in, since its much like how she was in gets a job with lububus for some reason This is the second time where she actually had new employment funny enough
Why yes, I do believe trans faggots ruin any community they infect. Gatekep them hard
>>42574403he talks to spec and huffy on discord he has them as friends even answering twitter dms occasionally isnt talking
>>42574399Do you think she got a raise when Friendship Land was founded?I think that the costs of subsidising all the extra welfare payments are going to eat into Cadence's budget.
>>42574414Maam this is /mlp/.
>>42574416With those two fuckers I bet they'd probably be so annoying that they'd pressure him to answer and he'd have no choice. Real fans don't do that shit. Besides who cares man, are you gonna police to who he talks? Are you his mom?
>>42574421Speaking of which, what royal duties would Coco Pommel have to do? She's the alicorn of...?
>>42574409Actually no, Trixie has total control over reality. Tamers himself said what her form was. She chooses to obey the laws of the world just as she chose to restore it. She erased the world once, could do it again and no one would be able to stop her just like last time. It's no different than how she could have gone off the rails like her sister years ago and just started killing people and taking her issues out on others, Trixie has her own morals to follow.>>42574421More than likely no, she may have already moved jobs by the end since Gleaming shield is now gone and her employment was mainly with them rather than shining and Cadence so like with gets fired she's probably gonna be doing another job next time we see her unless she's actually keeping each one, outside of the weather one since she got fired from it, and she's cycling multiple forms of income like Derpy. We already know she may either stay job hopping or one day be confronted with Trixiebelle's fairy and somehow retain her show pony license if not somehow take what may end up being her blood inheritance if Trixiebelle is actually a distant relative that Tamer's repurposed since there is the 1 last family member he has not used if he knows her.>>42574431Good work enviorment
>>42574387Yeah but that's the really lame magic of "being in tune with the earth and plants", which is gay as fuck compared to what even a unicorn child can do in simple practice. Apple Split wants it all.
>>42574387Factually no since he's a G4 pony and not a G5er since only that pony generation developed magic and Tamers canonized them to be their own land of pony
>>42574434>Trixie controls reality and space.>Soarin controls the time.Diamond and Pearl...
>>42574436Rarity probably is an unofficial Celestia apprentice along with Twilight now it would explain how she learned that spell. >Is she getting paidCelestia would never pay Twilight or Rarity. She would just make them work for her.
>>42574426i care because it disrespectful that he will have lengthy convos with his haters but give his fans the cold should
>>42574436>Is Rarity getting paid for basically being Twilight's deputy?Not by Twi since she also has no job and given how she's doing uber/lift like celestia, also no. Twilight works under Celestia, Rarity works around Twilight for free as Celestia also doesn't pay twilight and uses her as free labor as shown more than once
>>42574449His "lengthy" convos with the haters basically boils down to telling them to shut the fuck up. On twitter he does talk to his regular fans. Plus he's considering making a discord.
>>42574436>a lesbian>a sexually confused straight white woman>a midget kigger>the black town bicycleWhat's this group called?
>>42574455The Aristocrats.
>>42574449Honestly ya should get over that man. Those are just internet things. Hate fuels more discussion than anything nowadays. Sad but true. But I have no idea what you're saying about him giving his fans the cold shoulder??? He does go out of his way to comment on some fan arts that he hasn't even been tagged.
>>42574447Bit different, Soarin is the prince(ess) of time. He controls and traverses but can't actually change the present or future given future Soarin openly brings up how it worked for him and was there already at the end of time, Trixie in contrast rewrote reality(by mistake) and cause two whole ponies to be altered with the only fact they were salvaged being Trixie herself openly had doubts about her own restoration but held her tongue and Twilight alone recalled who they actually were and even when Twi fixed things the two still hold a lingering imprint in the world so she somehow created life on total accident since neither was truly like their original. Trixie has a bit more of the control aspect while Soarin is more of a time manipulator given the original example was a train with tracks that he could chose the path for but was still stuck with the restrictions of the direction or even being locked outside of time given how future soarin literally sat on a bench for all of time as it collapsed and was unable to just make Breaburn immortal with his own powers. It's sorta what makes alicorns alicorns, they manipulate the thing they rule rather than have total control over it interestingly, I have to wonder the power of good work environment since it now has a ruler
>Twilight is the main character>Rarity is Twilight best friend/sidekick/potential love interest>Rainbow Dash is kind of relevant but is mostly just there>Pinkie Pie used to be kind of relevant but is mostly just there>Fluttershy is almost completely irrelevant>Applejack is almost completely irrelevant
>>42574474I remember in an interview Tamers said Pinkie was his favorite member of the Mane 6 with Rarity being his second favorite.Judging by the appearances of both characters as his show has progressed I guess Rarity has overtaken Pinkie Pie as his favorite member of the Mane 6.
>>42574474You're close anon>rarityonly applies to one plot side>RDRelevance lost and mighty cucked>PinkieSame as RD>FluttershyBackground>AJRarity love interest for the past 2 seasons, no other relevance beyond this
>>42574447oh shidhttps://youtu.be/jKVrB60klMY
>>42574397Where are you hearing that he's talking to Huffy? And I remember a KF post Spec made saying that Tamers was ghosting him, so he must have gotten sick of him
>>42574474>Applejack is almost completely irrelevantI'm starting to think Tamers just gives zero fucks about Applejack>Barely gets any lines ever>Got rid of her in the hotel episode so he wouldn't have to write anything for her
>>42574480>only applies to one plot sideIs this you're new timeline cope since that was debunked?
>>42574474It seems like he dropped the whole RarityxApplejack thing since the "Applejack And Rarity Leave Ponyville" episode right?
>>42574493Now you know why everyone says she's a background pony. Hell even Fluttershy is more relevant after saving everyone in the Wedding episode, albeit accidental but still.
>>42574500>Now you know why everyone says she's a background pony.People only said that in response to the main show and it was wrong because out of the Mane 6 Fluttershy was the background pony and not Applejack. AJ is absolutely a background pony in Tamers MLP however.
Tamers still hasn't uploaded to his Newgrounds or Ponytube.
>>42574498More likely it was shelved. But it feels more likely that Rarity could end up having an affair with Twilight or get with Celestia or even get with Rainbow Dash. Since Tamers is setting up a rivalry between Rarity and Rainbow.
>>42574507And hasn't used his Bsky account in ages. Which Im very grateful.
>>42574493She doesn't have much important about he to begin with, much of her arc was done in S1 and that ended with her whole singing idea but, as you know, it got no real attention from anyone and didn't stand out so much like the aged up it was gradually phased out.>>42574497I didn't say anything about timelines, I told you the plot. Rarity has no real story importance in the yuri plot as of current as her last big things were AJ romance and apple killings(resolved) and then just nothing as of current since we've only caught up with her now in 2 different jobs(farm and uber). She's hasn't really paticipated in the major events of the yuri plot: Didn't world hop, didn't stick around for the fight with Gleaming shield, didn't involve herself with Sweetie's magic, wasn't invited to the after party of Friendship land Even pinkie and AJ were there)She hasn't been a major player in the yuri narrative for a while
>>42574519>Rarity has no real story importance in the yuri plotYour coping is hilarious especially since every new episode further supports my theories. Rarity appears more frequently in this show than fucking Trixie does. The characters with the most appearances in Tamers are (in no particular order)>Twilight>Rarity>Celestia>Apple Split>Care Package>Soarin>Braeburn>Rainbow Dash>Flawless>Arinos
>>42574519>wasn't invited to the after party of Friendship land Even pinkie and AJ were there)She was doing her Uber job.
Do you think the two Tamers yank characters from each other and agree wich one gets to use them on their episodes?
>>42574525Only one Tamers is making the MLP episodes
>>42574522Arinos has only appeared in 5 chapters so far. And 2 of those were just random appearances with no impact on the story. Not true. Also you forgot Big Mac.
>>42574525There are hundreds of them and they FIGHT TO DEATH for the right to use each other's characters every week. And then they're cloned back to life.
>>42574522>TrixieShe’s not around because she’s always around for actual story relevant moments rather that just showing up for a novelty go and as of current she’s actually appeared more than rarity thought S2 & 3 with the edge coming though the fact Rarity appears in SoL episodes with the other 6. Trixie has always been sparsely used due to her role in the series. Trixie actually appears more than Apple bottom currently based on total screen time, same with RD and Breaburn who have been around since Season 1, though he does beat out RD by a few due to S2’s movies where she shows up and then exits early. Rarity’s total screen time is in fact the most because from even S1 she ended up getting a whole episode with just twilight while the only other ones to get something close were RD and Pinkie who fell to the wayside of both plots. Aron’s actually has the least currently since even his first appearance isn’t long and later ones are just as short leaving him below even AJ currently and close to the CMC. There’s also the fact we’ve got openly known Trixie episodes that haven’t been released and that’s been actually close to a year now since most of those were teased around late December or so on.Soarin would actually be closest to 3rd while care package is also a lot closer to the bottom surprisingly as they appear less than the original 3 homos despite their current frequency
We need more Fluttershy. Her last episode was great.
>>42574568Why did she wanted to kill Applejack so bad?
>>42574522>since every new episode further supports my theories.Yeah no not really, again she's only relevant in the stallion episodes, the last yuri movie flat out shows you its key cast and Rarity isn't in it anymore as Shining, Cadence, Mari, Starlight, and the CMC are now it's new central players along side the sparklemoon family as shown in the intro with the newest big hitter being Flawless's other half. The only debatable memer would be sunset who was randomly added to DoTL's ED but hasn't appeared since SH.Honestly looking back SH feels like the moment where Tamers lost whatever plan he had going with Pinkie and RD since after that they got pretty much replaced by Rarity, Derpy & Jinx from whatever ED setups were going on since that was pretty much the last time pinkie was in a major plot too. Which is weird considering how Trixie's double date scenes involved Shining, Cadence and Chrysalis and now they're still directly part of that story, kinda wonder what idea he used to have for them and if actually releasing that Halloween episode would have changed things.If you were to actually bring up least screen time for a cast member of recurring value, it's AB who has actually no plot going on as her cancer got forgotten about, she's not part of team filly goo and with how the Age up plot got retconned she lost whatever weird goth narrative was starting with her and sweetie
>>42574493Applejack is too normie coded
>>42574625>replying to my same post twiceLmao mad.
>>42574498because that epsiode made is clear that Rarijack wasnt going to happen? Anyone saying otherwise after how that episode ended must have facial blindness or something and can't quite seem to see how visibly frustrated Applejack is with her shitty friends.
>>42574507Newgrounds sukkakake
>>42574630More like the fact the two things don't fit in one post and two are replying to two different things in the post to begin with since your most appearances list was flat out wrong and then statement before it ignores other basic stuff.
>Big Mac is gay>Braeburn is gay>Applebloom is gay>Apple Bottom is extremely gay>Applejack set Twilight's gaydar offHoly shit Twilight was right, the Apple family line ends here.
>>42574633>because that epsiode made is clear that Rarijack wasnt going to happen?Given fights a clown, an event far after literally had Twilight bring up that she thought Rarity and AJ were already dating, clearly not.
>>42574644>Apple Family line ends hereArinos is an Apple anon.
>>42574648Also gay. Shit's fucked yo.
>>42574644Being gay hasn't stopped any other Apple from starting a family, just look at Apple Bottom's and Braeburn's dads
>>42574648Distant and not actually a farmer, also a faggot as confirmed by tamers. The apple family is defined by it's farmers and Granny herself openly shows how she felt about AJ's dad marrying a non apple
>>42574644AJ better work fast before Twilight makes Rarity her side bitch.
>>42574652They didn't actually go gay anon, they had one implied moment and then they split entirely meaning it didn't stick like it does for the current generation of apples who are all strictly faggots with no interest in women. As Arinos, the one fusion pony, is a faggot for a soarin remnant, their is in fact very little hope for the actual apple family to continue.
>>42574654>Cheating black slut tries to seduce White straight mareYou know whats funny? In Unicorn con Rarity tried to sleep with Twilight only for Twilight to reject her. Now Twilight is subtly trying to flirt with Rarity.Why is Twilight like this?
>>42574651>Also dying from clown aids.Rip.
>The future as shown by Tamers
>>42574663>Why is Twilight like this?Its not Twilight's fault. Trixie constantly demeans Twilight and sometimes even hits her, while Rarity is always kind and supportive of her. Plus she subtly had some repressed feelings for Rarity in the past anyway. Makes sense that she would start acting on it.
>>42574667>The future as shown by Tamers
>>42574644>Applejack set Twilight's gaydar offTwilight said the opposite>"Rarity please">"No Twilight I really think Applejack isn't gay">"....well i see it"
>>42574644>Big Mac is gayMpregs Future Soarin' >Braeburn is gayMpregs Soarin' >Apple Bottom is extremely gayMpregs Care Package
>>42574292Those “red dots” look pink to me.
>>42574673Anon thats what setting gaydar off means.Twilight says "Rarity please" because she's like "AJ is obviously gay/bi"
>>42574668>while Rarity is always kind and supportive of her.>Plus she subtly had some repressed feelings for Rarity in the past anyway.Must we lie now?
>>42574679Thats cus they are pink
>>42574671>that apple splitgoddamn, black really don't crack
>>42574680but then she reneged and "sees it" how she isnt gay after all
>>42574671This doesn't really help the case given where Rarity is and how Twilight is in the image if she didn't do what she did to pinkie to jinx here that and this timeline is future Soarins, one where Twilight never got married as far as we know
>>42574668I appreciate your enthusiasm over a crackship anon. But come on, guy is dead set on making Twixie the Soarburn of the mare plotline. So nahhh. >>42574671This was funny as hell. But that made me think.Didnt Future Soarin was the one that didnt let himself get close to Braeburn so he could have a better life without him? So in this timeline he wouldn't have been part of his life. Or am I missing smth here?
>>42574689she didn't reign it in, she just wasn't gonna keep trying to explain it to rarity who wasn't picking up on it at all. Twi reaffirms that yes she sees AJ is gay even if Rarity isn't
>>42574671>people will still deny the two timelines theory after seeing this
>>42574683 What lie? Twilight when she missed her friends missed Rarity the most and even fantasized about kissing her.And out of of everyone Twilight knows Rarity is easily the most supportive person in Twilight's life aside from maybe her brother.
>>42574692Tamers says in this timeline Twilight is still married to Trixie. Also it doesn't debunk the affair theory.
>>42574700Well AJ very visibly isnt and we havent seen further evidence of otherwise and tamers unqillingness to use her in recent episodes shows he isnt planning on changing that
>>42574699>So in this timeline he wouldn't have been part of his life. Or am I missing smth here?we know very little of his timeline, we just know that it mainly starts if Soarin actively doesn't try to date Breaburn when he went back and then he goes on to sit on a cuck bench for years to come. Whatever happens in that timeline is a major unknown given we have no clue what other events get tied to those changes but moments like Hotpot could be ending very differently or how much stayed the same in that version of the future since Future Soarin only ever brings up that everyone eventually died
>>42574705When is Tamers going to write a movie that is just about Twilight and Rarity? They easily have the best written relationship the show.
>Makes valid observation>"But Tamers said..."Man still wants you to believe he hasn't watch MLP at all. Also would change his mind about any plotpoint at any given time depending on how he feels at the moment.
>>42574668I wouldn't mind this happening. Rarity and Twi have the best written dynamic in Tamers MLP plus they have been shown even early on to have at least some feelings for each other.
>>42574705She felt what she felt about celestia back then, not a romantic attachment but the same thing celestia instills to her on how she viewed their relationship, Twilight explains what her romantic experience being that the feelings she didn't understand, a romance that surpassed her autism, was only stirred by trixie. There's an open difference between the thoughts expressed toward just wanting a kiss and then actually wanting something far deeper which we've seen from twilight. Not some stray thought but something deep.>>42574707Given how Tamers went the length of saying they are still married, that doesn't help your case. It would be like believed he'd write Bartelby cheating on Sonic, it's a very unlikely situation for him to write.
>>42574708We've seen as much as we've seen for everyone and a large part of that being nearly all ponies are closeted, AJ openly only ever trying to force dating Big Mac but never seeming to hold genuine conviction over the movie and that much of her mindset is one based in fear around how the apple family works and tradition where even applebloom brings up that she'd want to escape their ways if it was up to her. There's also the end of SH where she goes on a double date with Trixie & Twilight and brought Rarity with her, before then even going with Rarity to the movies alone
>>42574731>Given how Tamers went the length of saying they are still marriedCouple cheat in Tamers all the time. And Applepackage literally just broke up in the last episode. >She felt what she felt about celestia back thenAAre we watching the same show? Twilight was never attracted to Celestia ever. The sexual feelings in that relationship was completely one-sided from Celestia. Twilight actually has been shown to have feelings for Rarity.
>>42574731He did write a story about Sonic believing Bartleby cheated on him tho. But it was a misunderstanding.He has a history of denying what's in plain sight. It's funny.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh-CIrj0BMc
lol lmoa
>>42574739>Couple cheat in Tamers all the time.Yeah, the non true love couples. Have you ever seen his most cherished romance pain cheat? Bardonic never faltered for even a moment. The entire yuri side is about faithful romance, honestly and no real backsteps as even Shining armor restores his true love and Chrysalis gets her true love as well, same with Luna getting some of what she wants from Celestia. Cheaters are portrayed as those like Twilight's parents, or the homo plotline where half of them are very openly not super healthy from at least one side. Applepackage was literally that and even then we know they'll get back together.>Twilight was never attracted to Celestia ever. She worshiped and loved her mentor above all things and wanted her affection and care desperatly, down to even INFECTION openly talking about wanting to have been in the cage and wanting the praise of Celestia no matter what, same with the amulet she took during that. Twilight only ever spoke back post Trixie and was shown to have internalized the years with Celestia back in bowling. She openly says she turned off her emotions from celestia, and expressed for Rarity what she expressed for each of her friends when it came to lust. We've openly seen the ass blushes that even SU had that cast give to others, even Sonic to his bro or others like mindy. There's a difference between the romantic attraction.>>42574748This kinda only proves my point, when it's a ship he's already dedicated to, he's not allowing actual cheating to slip in as this incident as over oranges given to a classmate and we saw what sonic did to try and win him back.
after watching this episode i realized that i don't actually hate clean sweep as a character, at least not as much as i thoughtthe problem is more with his design which feels like it came out of asking chatgp "how do you make an mlp oc that 16 yo "edgy" girls will go crazy for" and how he has a tendency of making everyone around him retarded
>>42574770>She worshiped and loved her mentor above all things and wanted her affectionYeah in the same way that one would worship a parental figure or a teacher or a mentor.Twilight had no romantic or sexual fealings for Celestia in fact Twilight was actively TURNED OFF by Celestia's advances towards her. Braeburn x Soarin is a "true love couple" and their entire dynamic was cheating at first. >She openly says she turned off her emotions from celestia, and expressed for Rarity what she expressed for each of her friends when it came to lust.She has never romantically fantasized about any of her friends aside from Rarity, and out of her friend group she spends the most time with Rarity especially now since they apparently work together for Celestia. Also explain why Twilight was blushing so hard at Rarity when showing off her new mane cut last episode
>>42574671Out of all of them Apple Bottom aged really well.
>>42574782>after watching this episode i realized that i don't actually hate clean sweep as a character,I feel the same. Clean Sweep is my least favorite character definitely but he has potential and can actually be funny. I'm starting to think the russian accent suits him too.
>>42574782He had an interesting introduction. Outbreak kinda sucked but most people just blame the pacing and Clean's TTS voice for being annoying. The character itself had some interesting stuff that got tossed to the side. Instead of exploring his origins this last episode decided to focus on the melodrama, add the forced Apple Package breakup and you have a weak episode Im affraid.
>>42574793>Yeah in the same way that one would worship a parental figure or a teacher or a mentor.False as we even got detail on what Celestia's version of things was when Twilight went on to act it out and how Celestia openly talked to her more than once. Twi was turned off only after the Trixie era where she only rejected Celestia for once, something she never did before then and later openly even opposed Celestia due to how Trixie changed her. Twilight didn't originally care, she in fact carved the full attention and validation.Breaburn and Soarin are an issue with the fact Breaburn literally sucked and Soarin was old and then he tried to have it be a 3 person relationship by S&B only to end it a different way. They aren't presented as true love given breabrun himself spoke on his feelings and choice back then, and then future Soarin shows the same thing that their love is just a large matter of failure even if the issue is that Soarin provides emotion while Big Mac provided sex, the divide being that each only had half of what Breaburn wanted.>She has never romantically fantasized about any of her friends aside from RarityShe's spoken about each at times before just like SU characters about each other at times.Twi's blush was that of her self concious nature over the change of her look which rarity would be seeing first.
>>42574806>False as we even got detail on what Celestia's version of things was when Twilight went on to act it out and how Celestia openly talked to her more than onceIts simply a joke on how Celestia tried to groom Twilight, but Twilight didn't take it as anything sexual. Twilight is not and has never felt any romantic feelings or sexual attraction towards Celestia. Period. Name ONE time in this entire show Twilight has shown attraction to Celestia. >She's spoken about each at times before just like SU characters about each other at times.That has nothing to do with what I said.There are only 2 characters Tamers Twilight has fantasized about romantically>Trixie>Rarity>Twi's blush was that of her self concious nature over the change of her look which rarity would be seeing first.Tamers wouldn't have her blush that hard if it wasn't meant to signifiy something. She would just look bashful without the blush if thats all it was. It was a deliberate decision make her blush at Rarity when she asked what she thought about her new hair style. Twilight is attracted to Rarity its obvious.
>>42574799Pacing wasn’t exactly the issue, it was the delivery of the plot itself. The movie widely just sorta happens and unlike infection or even clown there wasn’t some building moment to the escalation to come, it’s was that last movie the clown and friendship are good now after their big plan but the very next instance they are evil again with no real reason or even personal justification in the film but then to top it off Clean sweep shows up and starts a romance with Big Mac after he already just got a cop out Soarin of his own when then only appeared at the end of the film. The film felt rushed in more than the pacing, it felt like it sorta made the ending the the last movie somehow even more trivial and not with an actual fun addition since funny characters like Rarity and Sombra are barely in the film, and then there’s the repeated punchline twice during the film
>>42574799>>42574795Currently, Clean Sweep and Braeburn are competing for worst tamers pone
>>42574836I guess he fumbled that one big time didn't he?
>>42574844outbreak is better than the newest episode and S&B at least
>>42574840Why is Marionette the only "victim pony" who is not annoying or insufferable?
>>42574857>Out of the 3 victim ponies the radical feminist super misandrist is the only one that's likableHow did Tamers do it?
>>42574840inb4 Clean Sweep becomes an Alicorn even though he doesn't deserve it like Braeburn was.
>>42574860He did it by portraying her as being genuinely wrong, doesnt make her magically correct like a mary sue, and she gets beat up when she actually deserves it (abandoning poor Flawless, a a 7-month old grown ass woman). He did the smart thing and show that she is deeply misguided and lost and is a woman who needs help and loving family.
Braeburn was more likeable when he was constantly acting like a whore. There I said it.
>>42574517>Arinos has only appeared in 5 chapters so farI would argue him and friendship being the direct cause for multiple near hour long movies sort of put them in the category by default
>>42574876Braeburn was honestly fine in his first few episodesHe just progressively started getting worse at a certain point, said exact point can be up for debate (arson episode for me)
>>42574881Oh it was 1 million percent the Arson episode.
>>42574854I disagree. Soarin and Braeburn was good. I think it had proper buildup and good closure. Notice he didnt add any subplot on either S&B or DoTS. Those were really focused on their respective characters and they're considered highpoints of the series (Depending on who you ask I guess)People just find Braeburn annoying and I can't really blame em for that. I personally don't dislike him. Maybe post S&B gets a little tiresome to see him since his arc is already done and there's not much he can do. >>42574857Because she has an actual goal and a sense of purpose. Even if she fails, you can relate with a character if they have strong convictions and goals and works to achieve them. That's what's called being proactive. >>42574877I think after Infection they don't really give them more stuff to do. And as seen in Outbreak, they don't really work well as antagonists. They seem to be doing stuff just because. And for whatever reason Soarin doesnt keep an eye on them, even if they already supposed a threat without meaning to do evil. I wonder what's Tamers gonna do with the clown aids thing. Maybe he'll die?
>>42574854I thought the newest episode was lackluster at first but on rewatch its actually very good. I'd say every character was actually good in it including Clean Sweep.
>>42574891I think this movie is actually one of those movies that gets better on the 2nd watch.
>>42574782I feel like he and the new kirin guy are legitimately everything wrong with current tamers. Their designs are bad and the story is just boring drama with no real reason to care about the characters involved. Clean sweep especially serves no purpose aside to create yet another triangle which we've already done multiple times before.
>>42574854That’s mainly cause each gay film is worst that its predecessor meaning the newest one is always worst than the last making the one before it look better by comparison. It’s funny considering the wedding episode was genuinely good but each stallion move since the back half of season 2 just kinda sucks
>>42574907The Kirin is good character.>Their designs are bad Its just that one Kirin that was in the show what are you talking about?
>>42574782>has a tendency of making everyone around him retardedThe only character he makes retarded around him is Big Mac.
>>42574644The one unicorn is gonna grow up to rebuild the apple dynasty, improved to the superior race.
>>42574689That was her insisting her initial perception that Applejack is gay.
>>42574914>Its just that one Kirin that was in the showI hate Kirins
I had a dream where I was sexually molested by Tamers at a party
>>42574939Racist
>>42574940did you like it?
>>42574940Shut up bitch. You loved it.
>>42574671This genuinely made me so fucking sad to see this scene. idk how tamers managed to make me care about these characters than I have any film characters. Also why didn't future Soarin just go back in time and make everyone he cared about a alicorn?
>>42574857Because she lives a life of hypocrisy which makes her more of a tragic character. She hates stallions and say they're a bunch of monsters but the mares end up causing all the problems she's suffering in life, especially Starlight. Braeburn was a pony who felt like he needed to morally grandstand in every relationship and ends up making everything worse for them, at least he's been starting to learn that's bad since Outbreak. Clean Sweep is a rape magnet without much character aside from that, it's cheap heat.
>>42575096>idk how tamers managed to make me care about these characters than I have any film charactersHe's produced more hours of content about them at this point than any regular movie would have.>Also why didn't future Soarin just go back in time and make everyone he cared about a alicorn?Only Celestia can make ponies into alicorns, and Soarin negotiated her into doing that on the threat of investing his alicorn powers on any of the many ponies with a grudge against her. I can't imagine it's a ploy she would put up with him trying more than once.
>>42574857Because unlike the rest she quite literally never tried to pretend there’s some real high ground to stand, breaburn and sweep both insist what happened to both was horrible yet then constantly strive to also ask for it to happen again. Breaburn openly tried to cheat the first chance he got and was entirely unsympathetic to soarin’s issues, literally tried to get soarin to be a new Big Mac and that Big Mac would rape him yet them persist to only blame Big Mac as the problem and then never actually tries to grow instead just being given things he doesn’t deserve with no qualms
I hope Cleansweep doesn't end up ruining Big Mac. I love him.
>>42575170He already did
>>42575170What the other anon said, it's already too late. Big Mac is on his way to being Braeburn 2.0 with his monologue justifying cheating on Future Soarin
>>42575170Long past that as he did that in his debut movie
>>42575096Aside from Twilight's injury I thought the scene was kind of heart warming.
>>42575194>>42575173>>42575214WRONG Big Mac did nothing wrong this episode he just tried to be supportive. Braeburn's problem because he was a preachy annoying hypocrite.Big Mac was imply trying to do the right thing because he (wrongly) feels like he owes Clean Sweep something.
>>42575245This. Big Mac is not the Braeburn in this situation he's the Soarin in this situation with Big Mac being the "White Knight" in this situation like he accused Soarin of being before. Would be interesting if this was kind of subversive of the Soarburn event earliier where instead of Big Mac getting with Clean Sweet Big Mac realizes that may clean sweep is too much trouble and doesn't pursue him anymore.
>>42575250>>42575245This is the same cope back when people criticized the fact breaburn was in fact a shit character that would learn nothing, how nice to know that nothing was learned and that the homo plot is a cycle of running decent characters like Big Mac and soarin
Tamers MLP Core mane characters.>Big Mac>Twilight Sparkle>Rarity>Apple Split
>>42575256It's Braeburn, you illiterate nigger, the A goes before the E.
>>42575256Soarin is still a good character and so is Big Mac. Future Soarin is cool too. I like that he's kind of insane after all those years spent alone.
>>42575264he immensely started crying like a bitch that was dumb as fuck
>>42574918>Okay we didn't ask for you to trauma dump thanks for making things hella awkward. Can you go sit somewhere else? Why does Rarity keep being the best pony? She literally was saying exactly what I was thinking during that scene. She barely got to say or do anything in this movie but she still ended up being one of the best characters in it.
>>42575266Because he accidentally hurt Big Mac in his rage. It makes sense.
>>42575264Soarin and his future self have become enablers who have very little going on but love apple and be old. Their depth has need degraded to apologizing and fixing everyone else’s problems with barely any real care given back. The self respect and self value for soarin are at an all time low and now it’s just been compromise with what is given >>42575262My mistake, shartbum from now on got it
>>42575276I'll give you current Soarin being an enabler but future Soarin is different. He's been alone for possibly thousands of years makes sense that he'd be a little and overly possessive.
I'd be fine with Clean Sweep if I didn't get the impression you're supposed to like him. He's probably the most unlikeable character Tamers has ever made, either in MLP or SU. He has all of Braeburn's worst traits except at least Braeburn is cute, while Sweep is just a cunt. Too much of a cunt for the "I can fix him" appeal to make up for it. The fact that Tamers ruined his original design doesn't help either.Thank you PROFESSOR KIRIN for saving this otherwise forgettable episode.
>>42574918its more that the events in which he plays a major role are all retardedlike the fucking future soarin going full crashout mode and killing half of stalliongrad for almost no reason other than to have another mediocre fight scenei get that he is like an insane illidan type character that haven't seen a horse cock in 10000 years but still
This shot was the funniest gag of the episode.
>>42575287I think the bed nose scene was funnier because it genuinely caught me off guard.
Gonna try to remake the everyone hates rainbow dash episode will first need to write transcript then do the voices after that I'll try to reuse assets that tamers did because I did not understand wtf he was saying during that video
>>42575264i don't like future soarin that much, but i was really excited to see soarin and big mac romance line, i think they have way better chemistry than anything braeburn could ever dream of getting out of anypony but so far tamers kinda did nothing cute with it. i was kinda hoping to get more of those awkward conversations like the toilet scene from heart's warming in manehattan or the one where they discussed "did you ever think about it" in soarburn movie
>>42574689This anon actually has autism
>glimmerfagRewatch troon>rarityfagRewatch troon>tamersfagRewatch troon>>42575299>Mr anonymousRewatch troon
>>42575300Dont talk about yourself like thatGetting better begins with a positive self-dialogue
>>42574857She’s the most layered character Tamers ever wrote. She was hinted at from the start with Trixie’s two magic colors, arrived in a mask where you don’t even know it’s her, but there's enough clues to trust (you) to put the pieces together. When the mask comes off she's a full psyco which ends up being a facad to hide the fact that she's just depressed and scared of the world which gets even worse after her face is burned and literally can’t live anymore without Trixie the very pony who ruined her life being there. Plus she’s got her whole side plot with Starlight who’s toxic as hell and jealous of Twilight, who’s married to Trixie, who's mari's sister. It ties everything together in a way no other character has.
>>42575299Mac and Soarin were always a better ship than Soarburn
I thought it was heavily implied or outright stated that future soarin has done a bunch of alicorn time travel shit and traveled countless timelinesbut apparently he just sat at a park bench for a million years? What a loser.
>>42575290That, and it's a small taste of Tamers' SU era humor. Man, he really need to make another comedy focused episode again. These back to back melodrama episodes are starting to wear me down.
>>42575334The last 3 episodes were comedy what are you talking about? Yeah Sweetie Belle In Love had plot but there was a ton of comedy, heck there was a ton of comedy in this movie too.
>>42575341I'm talking pure comedy like the early MLP episodes. I just want a episode that has zero drama in it.
>>42575344Everybody hates Rainbow Dash was pure comedy
>>42575346That was a live action video, so it didn't count.
>>42575348>literally moving the goalpostSoarin and Braeburns wedding was 99% comedy
>>42575365More like 60/40. Just enough drama to dampen the comedy.
>>42575344So then no episodes at all? All episodes have drama in this series, the only difference is some of said drama is contributing to a story
>>42574782I think the issue with Clean Sweep is that the episode he introduced in was really bad and too cramped. All you know about him is that Arinos and Friendship randomly found him and that he's sort of a nihilist and a Big Mac falls in love with him immediately out of nowhere despite having all the reason not to. No one's motivation made any sense in the episode, therefore Clean Sweep didn't make any sense. I guess I'm okay with his new characterization of being a pathetic whore so long as Tamers sticks to it, but it feels like he's trying to retcon the incoherent introduction.
>>42575266Looks oddly cute in that getup
>>42575371What drama?
>>42575373Can you not read? I said the early episodes were pure comedy. I want episodes like that again. I'm sick of the middle school melodrama that's been effecting the recent episodes.
>>42575377the magnitude of just how much he kills that fit kinda underwhelms the comedy of that sceneit still cracked me up a bit so i dont mind
>>42575287>>42575290SNOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>>42575374They discarted him so quickly too. At the end of Soarin and Braeburn's wedding episode it kinda felt like Future Soarin and Big Mac were going on an epic quest to save him from them. Why did he suddently decided to discart that plotpoint I have no clue. The whole new dimension they did for him it's pointless and also dragging him at the end for no reason. >"We were expecting Big Mac to find you sooner". So I dunno what the fuck was their goal there.In this last episode he tried to connect Big Mac's remorse for what he did to Braeburn with Sweep's current situation with Professor Kirin. But he also keeps allowing it too so I guess that rubs Big Mac the wrong way. If that's where this is going we're just getting another Soarburn vs Big Mac situation. Where Future Soarin is gonna be the Big Mac, Clean Sweep is the new Braeburn and Big Mac is going to become the Soarin. Kinda boring but we're just gonna have to wait and see how this plays out.
Clean sweep isn’t good because he’s forced in every way possible, there was no reason to introduce second soarin and set up him dating Big Mac to then just up and introduce a second love interest with no build up, no real interest behind it, and just to cuck the new Soarin. The entire issue is he just got introduce before future soarin even got to have his own time with Big Mac and forced a 3 way nobody really even asked for
>>42575383Early episodes had drama dipshit, the very first was literal stallion drama on top of the world ending, the next was friendship drama and set up the Pinkidash drama, then stallion, then Trixie which leads to twixie.There is no non drama episode in this series you retard
>>42575430well one good thing i can say about this dynamic compared to soarin/braeburn/big mac triangle is that clean sweep can actually stand up for himself.even if not that muchthe entire plot of soarburn movie from the braeburn standpoint was "i have a daddy with big dick and daddy with big money, but daddy with big dick told me i should choose big money so i did"clean sweep so far doesn't look like that sort of character
>>42575452I feel like your either blind or lying given the last movie turned Big Mac into the breabum of the dynamic now
>>42575452Honestly to me that makes him worst. Clean Sweep has the attitude and selfawareness to know that what they do to him sucks. If its about powerdynamics, hes getting abused by a 57 year old midget half his size. And its not like he cannot bite back. He just pussys out last second making it inconsistent with his personality.Braeburn was a whore, but Big Mac was truly abusive and demeaned him in every chance he got. So he wouldnt think high of himself and think this is the best he could get in his sad life. If he hadn't met Soarin he wouldn't have had the courage to get out or the perspective to know whats a good relationship. Clean's has the iniciative but doesn't have the balls.
>>42575459"I have a daddy with a big snoot and a daddy with a big sad and both of them told me to choose them so I chose one of them based on my own poorly communicated motivations."Yeah sure that's the same dynamic or whatever. Every single love triangle is the same dynamic because 1 character has to choose between two characters. Yep.
>>42575478If you accept that brea didn't have the proper perspective or self-worth to get out of his bad relationship,cleen sweep explicitly tells us that he isn't able to differentiate between a good relationship or a bad one. They are the same in this.
>>42575486Except no, there was no choice there was what breabum and Big Mac did, cheat and then justify it with no need for accountability because there will be no actual consequence to the action
>>42575495Words unclearwho are you saying cheated?Try that again?
>>42574625>SH feels like the moment where Tamers lost whatever plan he hadHonestly, Tamer's mlp story should have ended with SH, either entirely or at least all the serious plot he had going and then jump into a clean slate with new sol episodes. With the benefit of hindsight, it's apparent his story writing quality drops off a cliff after SH. Original gay trio story was already finished as with Twi/Trixie & Flawless plot. All he had to do was neatly wrap up Pinke/RD & Rarijack plots and that's it. But now, we have a mediocre new plotlets be honest, there is no direction he likes rushing things with no satisfying conclusion with new lame characters and the old characters are either written out, re-coned, or overstayed their welcome. For instance, Trixie was never designed to be a main staple character, she's suppose to have brief cameos, making you want more of her. I love Trixie's early episodes, but really despise her later appearances. Maybe that's why I still love Sunset, actually I'm afraid of Tamers ruining her if she ever does appear in the future.
>>42574911>Stallion episodes sux and keeps getting worseChecks out, I hope you fags enjoy clean sweep becoming the main character. Don't even bother having Twi or Rarity in the episode if their combined screen time is 1 min.
>>42575256Based, keep reminding those stallioniggers that their story were never good. Now watch them convince themselves that Clean Sweep was a 10/10 written character.
>>42575528>and then jump into a clean slate with new sol episodes.>immediately introduced mari and care-split... seems he agreed?
>>42575551Oh shut up you whiny nigger.
>>42575552That wasn't a clean slate since they keep the baggage of the older plot like Flawless & Twi being a housewife bitch to Trixie, thus killer her original chemistry. Also, they weren't SoL episodes, they were filled with melodrama. This doesn't include the fact that those episodes sucked ass.
>>42575567>NOOOOO STOP CRITICIZING MY FUJO KINO Cry some moar and enjoy your faggot nigger cat sweep.
>>42575578You're doing enough crying for the rest of us, fag.
>>42575493Clean Sweep also says he doesnt like Professor Kirin. He said he didnt had many good experiences in general. The issue for me is that disonance of wanting to be left alone and having the courage to say it out loud but not do anything about it because "powerdynamics". Maybe if they explained where he came from instead of making him exposition dump for minutes I could understand better why he doesnt fight back if he very clearly knows what he hates. >Braeburn also didnt escape his abuse even when he was sorta aware of it.We did saw how Big Mac abused and treated him for multiple chapters to the breaking point where he decided to leave it all. And he didnt even do it to go with Soarin in mind. He just wanted to be left alone and return to his hometown. Soarin catched up to him during his trip and the rest its story. It seems like the main problem is the way these ideas are presented. If he really wanted to make us feel sympathetic towards Clean Sweep he should have focused where he came from and what he wants as an individual. Because so far all we know about him is that hes an abused cat-pony pyromaniac abomination with a little attitude that just hates life and thats all. Even Apple Bottom did it by directly narrating it to the audience and it wasnt that difficult. Not sure why it has to be so convoluted.
>>42575580>n-no youKEK
>>42575528Trixie is fine where she is, SH was a find start movie to season 2 to end certain plots that the DoTS ED set the issue with the new stuff is mainly ONLY the stallion side. With Twixie it feels like he has more of a plan or is putting more thought into the direction but ended up rushing Mari's little set up and pushing straight to a movie but beyond that it was a badly paced good movie. Trixie was always working her way into prevalence and now is pretty much only as frequent as she always was: only appearing when necessary and now appearing when she can but keeping her actually busy like being a mime or having a job. She's probabaly actually the only character to actually benifit from progressing seasons so far as she's well defined and still not just appearing at total random. Trixie was always being set up to be a central character after her big episode, the only one that hasn't gotten as much time was Luna since they are a duo(we know the mr. wonderful incident is more of them spending time at least) and she's actually in the high point of her tamers career. Sunset in contrast feels like an actual character he forgot about because there wasn't much of an idea beyond her just showing up that one time and then being shoved into the plot of SH which really didn't do much with her either since she's just sorta there and the focus of her in the narrative was mainly for the return of flawless.With Twixie, even if it's had it's rushed point(coco-DoTL) it still only moved with points that had ambiguity to run with (Her magic, sibiling info, family) SH was the mark of her return rather than feeling like it was their definitive end since they basically only just get to start dating and living together at that point. Twixie is currently the only direction based plot that isn't cycling, he's introduced 2 good characters to the family, has set ups that can fly under the radar(Trixiebelle, sister theory, Flawless purification, Trixie's past and life, etc.) while the stallion plot instead just keeps adding new BG ponies and seems to be constantly trying to recapture a 3 way dynamic and then the high parts of the yuri side(fusion ponies). Ending at SH would have probably been the most sour ending to the series given how many threads are left open.It's not even a general thing since the wedding gay episode was the best one in the whole of the last season to now and this latest movie lacked all the qualities that that episode has meaning the movies are seeminly the bigger issue here since most just lack proper build up or are throwing in random characters as a focus and telling you to then be invested in them while not really building them up.If he had to end MLP, Farts or DoTL were the optimal moments as both close the cliff hanger of Trixie's life while drastically setting a proper direction to at least fantasize for with the series.
>>42575629yeah you constantly cry about the stallions
>>42575593>We did saw how Big Mac abused and treated him for multiple chapters to the breaking point where he decided to leave it all.There was this moment which was good but then there was arson which flat out ruined it where you have Breaburn trying to turn Soarin into a big mac, being insensitive to Soarin, trying to get validation to cheat on horse reddit, and the scene with the barn, moments that if they didn't exist Breaburn would be a better character but they do exist and then went unaddressed to down right ignored with later incidents just not exactly making him grow any more past the time he tried to leave which made him unlikable compared to Big mac who after arson tries to develop more as a character
>>42575649Brae, you retarded nigger motherfucker
>>42575657Don't care, he's a shit character I have no respect for garbage so I'll call him what I please
>>42575402i love this kigger like you wouldn't believe i want to beat him up>>42575273okay but it just felt so fast though, like immediately he statyed crying and everyone started comforting him while clean sweep's leg was broken or something and then it was immediately healed, it felt rushed and i don't like future soarin one bit massive pussy
>>42575593Well, we know he lives for being dramatic and giving vibes.But more importantly, we know he's full of shit. He tells lies and then takes those lies back either seconds later or the next time you see him.He's "just being dramatic" when big mac shows up alone, but the moment that future soarin shows up he's competitive in order to take something from Fsoarin. When Fsoarin claims marriage, he's extremely interested in the humor of big mac's infidelity, basically immediately tattling on big mac.He's suspicious of anything claiming to be real, and doesn't miss a chance to tear such ideas down. He maintains no real ideas of his own, preferring flashy drama. Given the actual choice to decide something, he quickly doesn't know what he wants, and defaults to stationary almost-cuddles.The character just isn't that complicated as long as you realize that you can't trust a word out of his mouth. Literal-interpretation brained autismos, the lot of you.
>>42575528>Honestly, Tamer's mlp story should have ended with SH, either entirely or at least all the serious plot he had goingFuck you I love the new storylines.
>>42575665Anon what you described is bad writing as in trying to make a character with an escape goat to every action taken the moment it isn't received well, if you can't have any actual details that are the truth about him then he's actually a nothing character which would still prove true that he's a waste who's bogging down other characters he's attaching to
>>42575663>immediately he statyed cryingCus he's a broken man
>>42575671>bad writingIts not bad writing because there are actual real people who act exactly like Clean Sweep.
>>42575674It is bad writing as that means the moments in question are genuinely artificial drama from a character who wasn't needed and is already lacking in real direction. You have described a paper thin character who is now attached to big mac for no real explained reason in his intro as they go off screen and big mac is just already romantically interested and sucks his dick, and then you introduce a narrative that then doesn't matter because you could say it is a lie meaning he has no real character, no real direction and just exist to make a triangle that really wasn't asked for
>>42575671Anyway, assuming I understood you correctly, he doesn't change his words to avoid poor reception. He changes his words to attract poor reception, to attack the ideas of others. I'm not describing an infinity-adaptable character with no solid personality traits. I'm describing a character who doesn't know the difference between standing for something and pretending.If I need to relate that to another character, it's like care package vs soarin at the ted talk.Or do you also think that care package is bad writing for the same reasons?
>>42575649Im gonna agree with you on that. I did roll my eyes when I saw Soarin beating up Braeburn under Twilight spell. Like they really needed a catalist to make them broke up. But Ill also think it was at least a way for Braeburn to get his shit straigth and realize he has been ignoring Soarin's attempts to help him and his needs.>>42575665Being dramatic doesnt explain why he acts the way he acts, thats a quirk at best. If you think hes the type of character that would just fumble easily, well yeah. But I dont think he's dishonest most of the time. In fact he's pretty straight foward while telling his trauma to random people he just met.If not knowing what he wants its a core of his character well. What a boring ass character man, I dont know what to tell you. Even Friendship has an excuse for being boring, he's a shell of a being. Literally an object made creature by magic. They can literally portray Clean Sweep being abused the most dramatic way posible and still most people didnt really feel for him because theres barely any content to his character other than being a loud pussy. The character isn't complicated, the way he's being presented is for no reason. I believe a better word would be unorganized. Big Mac falls in love with him instantly even without making that connection of "he's just an abused soul just like Braeburn and I wanna help him". >>42575680As much as I don't like Care Package origins. They do take the time to explain why he is like that and where he comes from literally the next episode he appears after his introduction.
>>42575680Care Package is bad for different reasons but that example literally proves what I said, we already KNOW his story and he openly admits he lied right after as in his stake in the matter was clear and direct. We already have who Care Package is as a character, get to see his past before then, and even later also get to see the truth.Your version of Clean Sweep has none of that, as you seem not to actually get what you said: If every statement is a plausible lie and there is no truth in the statement, the statement holds no weight despite the fact he's been set to be sympathetic from his first appearance and his own words during the movie. He doesn't have to change to change the statement, Tamers himself could have him appear the next episode as someone else and then just say the last appearance was a lie as a retcon with the excuse of the previous details being a lie is literally just the truth in that case as he has no defined direction as is: If none of the statement has any truth behind it it lacks weight and then just means he's a lazy fuck who shouldn't complain to begin with as it means he openly doesn't have the right to complain if he makes no effort by choice.He openly knows the difference, advocating it to be a lie is pointless if it's already introduced that he knows and instead of allowing him to hold the accountability he sets, you provide an excuse to justify rather than just accept, yes: he was poorly written and could have been handled better.Care Package's issues are not with his character to begin with, it's with how his background was explains since it was really not well justified and then Soarin enables him for the sake of braebum souring a story that could have been better but got boiled into 'I couldn't get what I wanted' with the latter same acknowledgment of he knew right from wrong but gained enjoyment from killing, It's that latter half of admission to understanding that really just underscores a metaphor that could have been anything but cereal based that lead to killing his dad. The Ted talk was literally a moment closer to the fact that he openly explained his autism and did it to spite soarin specifically just like with the cookies
>>42575678Seems like a separate critique to me, and a better one.>there is no basis for the connection between big mac and clean sweepBig mac lost braeburn and knew he didn't deserve him. This was an active choice, the kind one can only make if they have an idea what what future they prefer, if a vague one, or if they hate themselves in the extreme. Big mac set out with the goal of finding a lover.Big mac somewhat teased at soarin multiple times, because they have emotionally unfinished buisness as romantic rivals, and because both of them have the idea of braeburn's affection for their opponent in their mind as a primary part of their life story. They live in eachother's heads rent-free as an example of a worthy lover from brae's perspective. "If braeburn likes him so much, maybe he's good?" This obviously wasn't enough.Given that neither of them can have braeburn or normal-soarin, Fsoarin and Bmac just kind of know that both are available and pretty desperate. We didn't even know they touched eachother until after clean sweep showed up, but making out and fucking once doesn't mean you're married. So, big mac was dealing in being rejected and then pump-and-dumped by two of a single tic-tac when this cat boy showed up with no discernible backstory and way more liveliness than any of his prior lovers ever showed. He legitimately jumped on the first ass which was available and attempted to forge a relationship. Clean sweep waved the exact thing he wanted in front of him and promised him the perfect followup.>from CP's sideThere ISN'T a connection. He playacted his role in the apocalypse, but instead of having a connection, he tries and fails to define one.>>42575705>As much as I don't like Care Package origins. They do take the time to explain why he is like that and where he comes from literally the next episode he appears after his introduction.>As much as I don't like Clean Sweep'sorigins. They do take the time to explain why he is like that and where he comes from literally the next episode he appears after his introduction.
>>42575707>If every statement is a plausible lie and there is no truth in the statement, the statement holds no weightFalse, that right there.When a character lies, they have motivations for that lie. A lie tells you as much ore more about a character than the truth does.
>>42575705Braebum could have been salvage at any point by now but with how INFECTION ended the time has long since passed, especially after clown since Braeburn in that episode goes on to demonized Big Mac for the very things Brae himself was guilty of and more than that it carried into the movie where he was openly trying to get Big Mac to confess to Soarin so that he could then bash him despite the incident having been a mistake. That moment where friendship preys on insecurities could have easily actually called Braeburn on any of his actions but instead it waters it down to just the idea Soarin's views of him are low while then also dumping any faults for their relationship onto Big Mac with nothing to really say positive from Brae or Friendship. It signaled what I feel was Tamers firmly absolving Braeburn of any accountability over what he had been doing in arson or that lone thought at the end of S&B.
>>42575717>When a character lies, they have motivations for that lie.See the issue: He has none yet. Care Package had motivations and we see them during the film. Clean Sweep has none of the motivation yet and we still know nothing actually about him. if you insist much of his words are lies, he then has literally nothing to stand on to begin with
>>42575669Bro, the plots for the past 5 episodes sucked big monkey balls.
If the next episode is stallion focused we're fucking done for.
>>42575731if it's like wedding we're fine, if it's a movie we're in for another bad one unless it's an hour+, the movies are where the stallions have been bombing since Season 2, even porta potty was good back then
>>42575674That's a poor excuse of an argument. That's like saying the jews aren't bad because there are ppl who support isreal. The story sucked, and its obvious they weren't well thought out as much as his 2024 videos.
>>42575735>porta potty was good It never was, but compare to the crap Tamers been releasing these days, I could see why you think that.
>>42575746Porta potty was fine as we just meet Apple Bottom and Care Package, both are only half the plot and both are fresh with the dynamic they bring as no one else has it. It's the after portion where they brought things down as they really weren't funny after that part and each only really had 1 note traits that they kept repeating/acting(Apple bottom just kept asking for sex and nothing else, Care kept saying no or offering it and then backing out while just only wanting to kill), they were then part of the Soarburn plot and from there they began to over stay all their welcome since both literally just up and leave after Arinos shows up making it as if they were only there just to bring him in and then he got entirely under used entirely
>>42575721He tells us why he lies. He regards good and bad with suspicion and still needs to try them out.Like, after he tries to jump off a bridge and gets stopped, he almost immediately tries to use the threat of ending his life in order to further control big mac. His games aren't clever. It doesn't seem like the kind of mystery where we have to have him tell us directly what the reason behind every manipulation is. He's just a really basic bitch.>ok but why put him in the storyBraeburn was weakened by his lack of confidence due to abuse and a lack of life experience.Trixie spent a lot of time being a very ignorant hobo and, as a result, ended up fighting with twilight and creating a relatinoship as a ploy to get a new wagon somehow.Soarin talks about having no experience multiple times.Care package is a void of a person who can't even figure out that living with a dead boyfriend sucks before he does it.Apple split doesn't even know how much money the apple-bukers in his family make and was sheltered to the point of ignorance, arrogance, and insecurity.Mari is obviously driven to apathy and violence by the same devaluation and ignorance supplied by her father and glimmer.Arenos is an existential nightmare and so is Friendship.Every storyline is about a character with suffering under the effects of some kind of abuse which has left them unable to imagine a better future for themselves slowly gaining those basic experiences.A character who creates and tries out ways of being like what clean sweep does is a basically completely necessary inclusion which would always come out basically like this.
>>42575752>we just meet Apple Bottom and Care PackageYeah, that was a big mistake. Letting in the 2nd wave of fujos did more harm than good. Their debut episode marked the beginning of the end for this "general".>Arinos Yikes what a mess that was. Tamers trying 2hard to make Flawless 2.0
I enjoy Arinos. Sadly attached to Friendship though. Maybe if Friendship gets something interesting later
>>42575757>Trixie spent a lot of time being a very ignorant hobo and, as a result, ended up fighting with twilight and creating a relatinoship as a ploy to get a new wagon somehow.Trixie wasn't ignorant, she had a job and a home which Twilight's friends ruined and the initial plan was to romantically extort Twilight to get a new wagon to a degree.>Braeburn was weakened by his lack of confidence due to abuse and a lack of life experience.That would be the case if not for his actions in Arson, a movie that really fucked up his credibility as a victim.>Soarin talks about having no experience multiple times.Soarin's issue wasn't the lack of experience it's that he's old and there is no one else willing to give him a chance, by the time he meets Braeburn he's already in sunk cost in thinking it's all already over so instead, as even friendship brings up, he's doing it because he feels there's nothing else. S&B openly has him hint that even mid destruction he felt he had no other outs at that point in his life, Celestia herself expressed the same of him.>Mari is obviously driven to apathy and violence by the same devaluation Mari's issue is what makes her the only well written tragic character: She didn't actually do anything wrong. From birth she got her magic eaten by Trixie without Trixie even intending to do it, never got to be around their mom due to jackpot and spent all her life missing something and being manipulated by the only pony who was willing to engage with her, in the same contrast Twilight openly talks about Trixie being the same to a degree and being adverse to friends despite her natural aptitude because something is missing, both sisters were missing their other half but ignorant to it and while Trixie managed to thrive her sister was used as a tool with Flawless farts openly having her realize just how she has no power or choice and never has as she sees the man actually writing the story. She is the puppet who can't do anything but look at the strings no one else sees. She's eren where the path was long since set in stone and she's just following it because no other path exists.>Apple Split and ArinosThey are also not super well written with the latter having flip flopped and not appeared enough to actually justify a central issue while the former is just prone to bad decisions and, unlike braebum, settling because he's actually mentally ill.Trixie had no actual abuse in her mind, neither did Soarin, both lived lives missing something but with Trixie she finds it and tries to justify denying it before accepting while Soarin accepts the hands he's dealt with and even after infection and a lifetime for another one, he is afraid of real change or confronting the full uncertainty of going onward for himself and not out of total obligation so he looks for someone to latch onto but only knows 2 options.Sweep isn't these, he's a willing victim in his own life by choice
>>42575763I don't really think he was going for that. Maybe in a meta way perhaps. But he doesn't look like Soarin or Apple Bottom for being a "fusion" type of character. He doesn't fullfill that role of uniting those characters either. And probably has more to do with Soarin side anyways, just like Friendship. I think he's more interesting than Friendship in that regard because at least he wants to have his own personality and claims he doesn't want to be just a Soarin which it's gladly appreciated. >>42575788Same.
>>42575788I'm indifferent to Arinos cause he always felt like a watered down Flawless but instead of finding some footing he just appears, does not much for himself but for someone else's plan, and then is gone just as quick. He feels more like a plot device over half the time
>>42575795>arsonWhat did he show in arson which he didn't learn by working on an apple farm with big mac?
I think all of the following Tamers MLP stuff are good to great in no particular order>Big Mac goes to College>Everybody Hates Rainbow Dash>Sweetie Belle in Love>Wedding of Soarin and Braeburn>Trixie Gets Fired>Flawless Farts Open a Portal>Infection>Twilight Sparkle & Friends Get a Hotel Room>Buffet>Lemonade Stand>Coco has her heart stolen>AJ and Rarity leave Ponyville>Porta Potty>Hearths Warming in Manehattan>Shattered Harmony>Joke-Off>Starsong and Toola Roola>Soarin & Braeburn>The Death of Twilight Sparkle>Pinkie Pie Goes Bowling>Twilight Commits Arson>Fluttershy's Hot Pot Party>Unicorn Con>Twilight Shows Trixie the True Meaning of Friendship>Rainbow Dash must perform Sonic RainboomSo yeah basically every single one of his MLP episodes and movies I consider good to great.
>>42575804Honestly, yeah. He doesn't really have that much of an impact other than being a support type of character. But I also have to relate to Tamers and say. Bitch is a pain in the ass to draw so I understand why he wouldn't want to add him in many episodes lol
>>42575804>>42575811Arinos kind of gives me Nagito Komaeda from Danganronpa Vibes.
>>42575805See that's the problem, he already left big back by this point and insisted he was done with them yet when on his own, of his own choice, he tries to get Soarin to be Big Mac despite already having left him twice and fought him twice, then the moment big mac shows back up, the first chance they are alone he thinks and hopes for Big Mac to rape him because Soarin isn't really sexually cutting it. When Soarin cries the night before he does nothing to actually comfort him and instead just tolerates the situation. We don't even need to bring up THE SUIT or Horse Reddit. Instead it's more telling the fact that Soarin was already showing discomfort with Big Mac back and tried to articulate it as blunt and clear as possible after Brae literally brings up how Big mac used to fuck him. Then at the end of everything he takes no accountability on his own side, instead throwing Soarin entirely under the bus with no idea of any faults of his own and then just bails on him after signaling for Big Mac to give him a signature punch.This incident was bad but then comes that thought from S&B where he actively admits he'd always choose Big Mac but wanted to try loving Soarin more, a moment that truly says leagues due to Arson as if Arson didn't exist, it would just be a sexual thing but what arson showed was how deep it ran with Braeburn. It's a lack of actual accountability despite his choices to leave Mac(a reasonable choice) but then try to make Soarin someone he isn't as well as the constant reminders of Big Mac
>>42575807Based. Don't know why some anons are so down on big mac goes to college. Yeah Clean Sweep was annoying but it was a good movie. It was comfy as well. My only complains is that I wish Twilight and Rarity got more screen time. I wanted to see what they were up to in the girls side of the dorm.
>>42575813I don't know anything about Danganronpa. Once I did an edit of this character being huged from behind by Obama many years ago tho.
>>42575818He and Arinos give off the same vibe of seeming very chilled and happy but they're quite obviously depressed as fuck when you think about them. Also they're both crazy.
>>42575823Oh that's fair yeah.I don't think he's depressed tho. He seems mostly lost so far, no extreme emotions have been shown and even when shit hits the fan he still remains silly. We'll see where the aids/corruption arc takes him.
>>42575814>I thought that would be the case if not for his actionsThe claim being responded to is that braeburn is operating from a position of insecurity and lack of experience. The fact he attempted to use soarin selfishly is not inconsistent with that. The fact he failed to comfort soarin is perfectly consistent with that. A person who does not have much life experience is likely to be selfish. A child is selfish. Empathy is a skill one has to develop. A horrid ignorant glutton is likely to run onto the internet and seek validation and then get mad when nobody confirms his perspective. Overall, even if I'm just wrong about all of that, there is no part of braeburn being a completely bad person which would mean that he isn't also a sheltered crybaby just now trying to stand up for himself.
>Almost hitting 500Any suggestion for new edition?
>>42575877some retard shit idk
>>42575866Except none of that matters if the person in question, not only shows no growth, but then also makes no effort to change or learn. Braebum isn't ignorant, he flat out later goes on to lay out his understanding of things and in their dynamic as well as the parts he didn't like, yet still he refused to actually learn and instead made every wrong choice. Youth is only an excuse when the character actually grows up, Braeburn never had and as it stands never will, he takes no accountability for anything, holds everything over big mac even hypotheticals or misunderstandings, and will as proven still be rewarded because Soarin enables a life style where Braeburn will face no form of consequence or ever learn to take some form of accountability.
>>42575900That's because it's not an excuse. He isn't excused from his ignorance, or at least I'm not arguing that he is. I'm arguing that he possessed that ignorance, and your response is "that's no excuse".That's not a disagreement. It's your own personal bone to pick which is preventing you from hearing what's being said.
>>42575835Dang the announcement of the Dangan 2 remake really revived the western fanbase lolFuck, image a tamers interprestation of Danganronpa. It might not work desu. Can't really say for sure is tamers is as slop-minded as Kodaka
>>42575877A Mari~ OP that won't get deleted
>>42575927He has been excused, long time now and that's the issue. He never learns, never will and he's rewarded for it. Ignorance is no excuse at all
>criticize author's pet self-insert mary sue>same autist going a million miles to defend him appears and shits all over the thread againweirdge
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